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Re: GT: Nets @ Rockets: 3/3/2021 - 7:30 PM EST - YES & ESPN 

Post#141 » by GYK » Thu Mar 4, 2021 4:39 am

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NyCeEvO wrote:I love Kyrie but he’s not durable. I kinda don’t want him consistently forcing the issue and constantly drawing contact, at least not until the playoffs. We will definitely benefit from Kyrie’s elite omnidirectional creativity in the playoffs when tougher defenses will clamp down on the north-south drives/activity.

Absolutely tough shot making is made for the PS. With spacing and the mandate to give up the midrange it’s what you can’t take away.
But I’m not talking foul drawing in throwing himself in the air I’m talking the Trae/Luka style. Well before launch seek contact and aim for a low impact continuation.

Kyrie doesn’t get superstar calls as it stands, despite drawing contact/getting hit all of the time. I don’t think there’s a linear correlation between him expending say 10-15% more energy to draw fouls and the refs rewarding him with 10-15% more free throws.

IMO, it’s not worth the risk. The best ability is availability and we absolutely need him for the playoffs. Sometimes I wish he could just play in bubble wrap during the regular season to ensure that he’ll be healthy and available for the postseason. He can go super hard in May bad June. I don’t want it now.

I agree but I’m sure I’m not explaining the type of fouls I’m hoping for him to hunt.

Low impact fouls. Controversial but high skill/IQ moves. Agreed on never risking injury. Just want Kyrie to make it easier on himself. Would also love more CP3 style PnR snake dribble into elbow jumpers. Just want it easier for Kyrie. He doesn’t need to change at all he can look at the other two all time scoring points in the league(Curry and Dame) and not care cause hes at their table. Just want it a little easier for my team.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Rockets: 3/3/2021 - 7:30 PM EST - YES & ESPN 

Post#142 » by ecuhus1981 » Thu Mar 4, 2021 4:59 am

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NyCeEvO wrote:King - Harden
Knight - Brown
Jester - None

Jester - Houston

For not wanting LeVert, Allen or Dinwiddie.

The killer for me was Levert. He's no superstar, but as a cost-controlled lead guard, the could have really used that stability moving forward. Oladipo is halfway out the door already, and they will have not much to show for the trade other than picks.
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Post#143 » by therealbig3 » Thu Mar 4, 2021 5:00 am

Our top 5 NBA seasons in terms of winning percentage:

1. 01-02: .634 (52-30)
2-5. 12-13, 05-06, 02-03, and 82-83: .598 (49-33)

Holy crap, we've had ONE 50 win season (or its equivalent) in 45 years.

Let's change that this year lol. Need to go 20-15 after the break to end up with 44 wins, which is the equivalent to 50 wins this year.
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Post#144 » by therealbig3 » Thu Mar 4, 2021 5:10 am

MrDollarBills wrote:
DarkXaero wrote:Jazz are **** trash. Fraud team with fraud stars.


All regular season bluster. I would bet money they lose before the WCF


I think Lakers are clearly better, come playoff time. I don't trust the Clippers at this point, and I don't think Phoenix or Portland are at that level right now.

Top dog in the West, when healthy, is still the Lakers imo. And them and Miami are like the two teams that I think could potentially beat us in a playoff series. Not super worried about anyone else, other than maybe a really scrappy Toronto team. Bam and Butler match up quite well with our stars (Bam is a top 3 defender in the league imo and he's the perfect counter to us in terms of being able to switch onto anybody and disrupt all of our actions...and we saw him feast against us in the paint when we played them), and they have a bunch of guys that can be really useful and give us some problems (Robinson, Herro, Olynyk, Dragic, Nunn). For much of the same reasons, but on steroids (LeBron and Davis), you have the Lakers. Davis needs to be good to go though...if he's even at just 75%, they're in trouble imo.
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Post#145 » by ecuhus1981 » Thu Mar 4, 2021 5:25 am

I think that the Lakers are running out of gas. True, healthy AD can make a huge difference for them. Even with that though, their role players are vastly inferior to last season's guys. Green was a low-key linchpin for them, and Rondo, JaVale and Dwight all turned back the clock for their stretch run. I don't see Gasol improving in the postseason, he looks a month older every game. Schroeder has reverted to his ATL self away from CP3's tutelage. Kuz and some of their other role players have improved, but I think a bunch of WC teams could take care of them in a series.

I know the Clips have their warts, but they're best constructed for a title run. Plus, I think they will swing another big TDL deal, probably for Lowry.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Rockets: 3/3/2021 - 7:30 PM EST - YES & ESPN 

Post#146 » by NetsJets » Thu Mar 4, 2021 8:04 am

Claxton is getting better. My wish is for him to be our starting center in the near future. He can guard all five positions, can defend on the perimeter and guard bigs down low and he has a massive wingspan. He’s our future imo. The Sky’s the limit for this kid and I’m excited to see his progress.

I’m surprised the Rockets fans didn’t boo Harden, classy on their part. Another strong game overall. Although it got uncomfortable a few times but we did what we were supposed to do and now it’s on to the all star break.
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Post#147 » by GTR11 » Thu Mar 4, 2021 9:31 am

MrDollarBills wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:I really don't even care about the #1 seed. We will get it eventually.

The Sixers don't scare me with homecourt or without.

Outside of Embiid they have don't have enough offensively. Once we start doubling Embiid and leaving Simmons wide open they might have to bench him.


Double Embiid and dare Simmons to shoot. Their offense won't be able to keep up with the barrage of the Nets.

There isn't a defense in the league that can stop this.


That's what I was thinking before Nic. How you can stop this monster? KD and Harden can run first unit while Kyrie will do Dinwiddie job vs Bucks. I mean you can go on and on. There is not a team that can stop this monster. This is dynasty written all over it, jut need to stay healthy.
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Post#148 » by GTR11 » Thu Mar 4, 2021 9:54 am

NetsJets wrote:Claxton is getting better. My wish is for him to be our starting center in the near future. He can guard all five positions, can defend on the perimeter and guard bigs down low and he has a massive wingspan. He’s our future imo. The Sky’s the limit for this kid and I’m excited to see his progress.

I’m surprised the Rockets fans didn’t boo Harden, classy on their part. Another strong game overall. Although it got uncomfortable a few times but we did what we were supposed to do and now it’s on to the all star break.

KD was busting his ass throughout this time. Go check working out.
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Post#149 » by GTR11 » Thu Mar 4, 2021 9:57 am

I love our guys and will support them. It's just this Harden guy is all I wanted for years.
We going to win chip. No jinx ,,,, yes I said it..
This team can not be stopped. You add healthy KD and I dare you to challenge me. I'll take any bet.
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Post#150 » by TheNetsFan » Thu Mar 4, 2021 9:45 pm

ecuhus1981 wrote:
Paradise wrote:
NyCeEvO wrote:King - Harden
Knight - Brown
Jester - None

Jester - Houston

For not wanting LeVert, Allen or Dinwiddie.

The killer for me was Levert. He's no superstar, but as a cost-controlled lead guard, the could have really used that stability moving forward. Oladipo is halfway out the door already, and they will have not much to show for the trade other than picks.

They were never concerned about immediate talent. They intended to tank for a couple years & wanted to maximize their draft assets & tax/salary savings. They owe OKC a top 4 protected pick swap this year, and own their 1sts completely for the next 2 years, before owing another top 4 protected pick to OKC in 2024. They currently have the third worst record & are well positioned to be passed by Detroit in the 2nd half of the season. Nobody should be surprised if they give away Oladipo's expiring deal for the best available pick at the deadline.
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Post#151 » by Prokorov » Mon Mar 8, 2021 5:34 am

ecuhus1981 wrote:
Paradise wrote:
NyCeEvO wrote:King - Harden
Knight - Brown
Jester - None

Jester - Houston

For not wanting LeVert, Allen or Dinwiddie.


The killer for me was Levert. He's no superstar, but as a cost-controlled lead guard, the could have really used that stability moving forward. Oladipo is halfway out the door already, and they will have not much to show for the trade other than picks.


Levert is an inefficent chucker who is weak defensively, avg from three, and terrible at the rim. he is oft injured and he makes 15+ million. he is at an age were not much more peak is expected. he is the exact opposite of what Houston would want.

People talk about levert like some fringe all-star or impact player. this is the stat i always break out which speaks volumes:

EVERY season of leverts career, the nets have a losing record in games he played
EVERY season of leverts career, the nets have a better record when he doesnt play vs. when he does
Levert is bottom 5 in the entire leauge the past 3 seasons in TS% for guys who take 10 or more shots.

always hurt, inefficient, losing player.
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Post#152 » by ecuhus1981 » Mon Mar 8, 2021 5:48 am

Prokorov wrote:
ecuhus1981 wrote:
Paradise wrote:Jester - Houston

For not wanting LeVert, Allen or Dinwiddie.


The killer for me was Levert. He's no superstar, but as a cost-controlled lead guard, the could have really used that stability moving forward. Oladipo is halfway out the door already, and they will have not much to show for the trade other than picks.


Levert is an inefficent chucker who is weak defensively, avg from three, and terrible at the rim. he is oft injured and he makes 15+ million. he is at an age were not much more peak is expected. he is the exact opposite of what Houston would want.

People talk about levert like some fringe all-star or impact player. this is the stat i always break out which speaks volumes:

EVERY season of leverts career, the nets have a losing record in games he played
EVERY season of leverts career, the nets have a better record when he doesnt play vs. when he does
Levert is bottom 5 in the entire leauge the past 3 seasons in TS% for guys who take 10 or more shots.

always hurt, inefficient, losing player.

Please understand, I'm not lionizing Caris. I'm not speaking about the trade from our perspective, only from Houston's.

I'm merely saying it was dumb for Houston to want Oladipo over Levert. He's older, smaller, more injury prone and going to be an unrestricted free agent this summer. IF they keep him, he's looking for upwards of $30mil/yr, basically twice what Levert costs. But it sounds like he doesn't even want to stay in Houston, so they've traded Harden for an unwilling rental.

This was before we found out about the precancerous cells. But even factoring in that, the Rockets shot themselves in the foot here.
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Post#153 » by Prokorov » Mon Mar 8, 2021 5:50 am

ecuhus1981 wrote:Please understand, I'm not lionizing Caris. I'm not speaking about the trade from our perspective, only from Houston's.

I'm merely saying it was dumb for Houston to want Oladipo over Levert. He's older, smaller, more injury prone and going to be an unrestricted free agent this summer. IF they keep him, he's looking for upwards of $30mil/yr, basically twice what Levert costs. But it sounds like he doesn't even want to stay in Houston, so they've traded Harden for an unwilling rental.


Oladipo expiring is more valuable then Levert on a contract. saving money >an oft injured inefficient loser chucker
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Re: GT: Nets @ Rockets: 3/3/2021 - 7:30 PM EST - YES & ESPN 

Post#154 » by ecuhus1981 » Mon Mar 8, 2021 5:59 am

Prokorov wrote:
ecuhus1981 wrote:Please understand, I'm not lionizing Caris. I'm not speaking about the trade from our perspective, only from Houston's.

I'm merely saying it was dumb for Houston to want Oladipo over Levert. He's older, smaller, more injury prone and going to be an unrestricted free agent this summer. IF they keep him, he's looking for upwards of $30mil/yr, basically twice what Levert costs. But it sounds like he doesn't even want to stay in Houston, so they've traded Harden for an unwilling rental.


Oladipo expiring is more valuable then Levert on a contract. saving money >an oft injured inefficient loser chucker

No matter what happens this summer, ask Houston about this next season and see their response. We'll leave the issue here for now.
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Post#155 » by Prokorov » Mon Mar 8, 2021 6:03 am

ecuhus1981 wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
ecuhus1981 wrote:Please understand, I'm not lionizing Caris. I'm not speaking about the trade from our perspective, only from Houston's.

I'm merely saying it was dumb for Houston to want Oladipo over Levert. He's older, smaller, more injury prone and going to be an unrestricted free agent this summer. IF they keep him, he's looking for upwards of $30mil/yr, basically twice what Levert costs. But it sounds like he doesn't even want to stay in Houston, so they've traded Harden for an unwilling rental.


Oladipo expiring is more valuable then Levert on a contract. saving money >an oft injured inefficient loser chucker

No matter what happens this summer, ask Houston about this next season and see their response. We'll leave the issue here for now.


There is no need to wait. its already fact thats the better move. levert does not have any value to houson. he probally has massive negative value to them

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