Admit it, Blake Griffin has been so much better than expected

[NyCeEvO]

I love this for Blake Griffin. He's been good on defense, an excellent tertiary playmaker, a reliable shooter from distance and he's made a bunch of hustle plays. He also looks like he's got more spring and mobility than he's had since his second year in Detroit. He is a guy that can get 15 to 16 points any given night when others take pressure off him. With Tyler Johnson back, Shamet tapping into some ball handling playmaking and more, the supporting cast is excellent.

with TLC out of the rotation, we dont have to ever play a bad player. like every team in the league has 1 or 3 rotations guys where they hold their breath while that guy is on the floor.

We have 2 stars + 2-3 good to great role guys on the floor at all times.

Yes, understated point. Initially I was hopeful that TLC could be a suitable 3&D player for us when Dinwiddie went down. We didn’t need more scoring, just someone who could help space the floor by hitting corner 3s, cut to the basket for easy looks when teams overloaded on KD and Kyrie (and eventually Harden), and stay in front of his man on defense.

Over time my hopes faded as his negative play would easily outweigh the 1 or 2 good things he’d do while on the court. It became clearer and clearer by the game that he simply doesn’t have what it takes to contribute at this level, (at least not right now). For the sake of the team, I hope we don’t have to play him for the rest of the regular and postseason.

[GTR11]

I love this for Blake Griffin. He's been good on defense, an excellent tertiary playmaker, a reliable shooter from distance and he's made a bunch of hustle plays. He also looks like he's got more spring and mobility than he's had since his second year in Detroit. He is a guy that can get 15 to 16 points any given night when others take pressure off him. With Tyler Johnson back, Shamet tapping into some ball handling playmaking and more, the supporting cast is excellent.

with TLC out of the rotation, we dont have to ever play a bad player. like every team in the league has 1 or 3 rotations guys where they hold their breath while that guy is on the floor.

We have 2 stars + 2-3 good to great role guys on the floor at all times.

Yes, understated point. Initially I was hopeful that TLC could be a suitable 3&D player for us when Dinwiddie went down. We didn’t need more scoring, just someone who could help space the floor by hitting corner 3s, cut to the basket for easy looks when teams overloaded on KD and Kyrie (and eventually Harden), and stay in front of his man on defense.

Over time my hopes faded as his negative play would easily outweigh the 1 or 2 good things he’d do while on the court. It became clearer and clearer by the game that he simply doesn’t have what it takes to contribute at this level, (at least not right now). For the sake of the team, I hope we don’t have to play him for the rest of the regular and postseason.

Look up my posts. Dude say it how it is. Guy is trash with all things provided.

Mike James has a bad reputation from PHX simply because he couldn't do what TLC being asked. Damn they even cut TJ for same reason, here... they good. Role players, simple role player thing.


Didn't want to get burned with TLC. Guy just does dumb things as a role player.

[GTR11]

I'm going to brag about it. YEAH I SAID SO.


Blake is here to stay to. F*** you haters.

[Prokorov]

with TLC out of the rotation, we dont have to ever play a bad player. like every team in the league has 1 or 3 rotations guys where they hold their breath while that guy is on the floor.

We have 2 stars + 2-3 good to great role guys on the floor at all times.

Yes, understated point. Initially I was hopeful that TLC could be a suitable 3&D player for us when Dinwiddie went down. We didn’t need more scoring, just someone who could help space the floor by hitting corner 3s, cut to the basket for easy looks when teams overloaded on KD and Kyrie (and eventually Harden), and stay in front of his man on defense.

Over time my hopes faded as his negative play would easily outweigh the 1 or 2 good things he’d do while on the court. It became clearer and clearer by the game that he simply doesn’t have what it takes to contribute at this level, (at least not right now). For the sake of the team, I hope we don’t have to play him for the rest of the regular and postseason.

Look up my posts. Dude say it how it is. Guy is trash with all things provided.

Mike James has a bad reputation from PHX simply because he couldn't do what TLC being asked. Damn they even cut TJ for same reason, here... they good. Role players, simple role player thing.


Didn't want to get burned with TLC. Guy just does dumb things as a role player.

To be fair TJ was injured with the suns on a like an 8-10M deal and Mike James drastically improved the past 3 seasons according to those who followed him overseas

[Prokorov]

I'm going to brag about it. YEAH I SAID SO.


Blake is here to stay to. F*** you haters.

Props, you were high on blake from day 1. good call.

[GTR11]

Yes, understated point. Initially I was hopeful that TLC could be a suitable 3&D player for us when Dinwiddie went down. We didn’t need more scoring, just someone who could help space the floor by hitting corner 3s, cut to the basket for easy looks when teams overloaded on KD and Kyrie (and eventually Harden), and stay in front of his man on defense.

Over time my hopes faded as his negative play would easily outweigh the 1 or 2 good things he’d do while on the court. It became clearer and clearer by the game that he simply doesn’t have what it takes to contribute at this level, (at least not right now). For the sake of the team, I hope we don’t have to play him for the rest of the regular and postseason.

Look up my posts. Dude say it how it is. Guy is trash with all things provided.

Mike James has a bad reputation from PHX simply because he couldn't do what TLC being asked. Damn they even cut TJ for same reason, here... they good. Role players, simple role player thing.


Didn't want to get burned with TLC. Guy just does dumb things as a role player.

To be fair TJ was injured with the suns on a like an 8-10M deal and Mike James drastically improved the past 3 seasons according to those who followed him overseas

I gave you 1, but 18 mil for a role player is a lot. I've seen him few times when he wasn't injured or DNP. He was horrible to say less. Here...TJ doing work, hope MJ can find a role here. This far both looked good.

[gigantes]

I think someone earlier asked about Blake's advanced stats on defensive, and I took a mini-dive just now in to that stuff.

Apparently he played 17 games for DET, averaging a pretty heavy load of 31mpg, and performing pretty forgettably, of course. So far with the Nets he's averaged a far more manageable 20.5mpg in 16 games, with much better shooting efficiency (around ~55% from the field, and ~44% from three, both major jumps compared to the Pistons).

His ESPN RPM isn't impressive (ORPM -0.67, DRPM -0.45, RPM -1.12, WINS 0.76), but I'd say his RAP-BPM is (OFF +0.3, DEF +1.3, TOT +1.6, WAR 2.1).

He's probably closer to double those numbers, or even more, when you remove his minutes with DET. That would also easily make him the second-best defender on the team after Claxton, according to RAP-BPM. That certainly stands out on this year's squad.

[HardenGoat]

What we have here is smart management and maximizing the abilities of our players. What Detroit did with Blake was just too much to ask of a player coming off leg injuries. They literally ran him into the ground. The hallmark of that was when he injured his knee in the playoffs and they left him in there the entire game limping. Blake has a desire to win and like many competitive players they are often a danger to themselves as far as injuries go. Look at how Harden and Durant are being managed right now. Warriors put KD in too soon and we see what happened there although what Detroit did with Blake was worse. What I see happening soon is our defense is going to tighten up as the games become more meaningful. Haters love to say certain players are terrible at defense, but when a player is asked to carry teams offensively for extended minutes every game there is a price to pay. Blake and Harden are going to be perfect examples of that.

[kio80]

Griffin’s been playing significantly worse than what he is capable of in Detroit to fool the team to buy him out for a easy way to a ring.
I have lost all respect for this person and I feel so sorry for the Detroit fan base


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What is it with you 76er fans coming on our board as of late to bad mouth our players? You guys are a bunch of insecure, insufferable clowns and I know why you're doing this, because you know what is coming for you in the playoffs.

No one gives a ****. If you were looking for someone to agree with your whining and crying keep it on your board.

Sorry I pinched a nerve... the truth hurts.
I must apologize, I didn’t realize it’s the Net’s forum, this thread popped up in my feed...




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[gigantes]

What we have here is smart management and maximizing the abilities of our players. What Detroit did with Blake was just too much to ask of a player coming off leg injuries. They literally ran him into the ground. The hallmark of that was when he injured his knee in the playoffs and they left him in there the entire game limping. Blake has a desire to win and like many competitive players they are often a danger to themselves as far as injuries go. Look at how Harden and Durant are being managed right now. Warriors put KD in too soon and we see what happened there although what Detroit did with Blake was worse. What I see happening soon is our defense is going to tighten up as the games become more meaningful. Haters love to say certain players are terrible at defense, but when a player is asked to carry teams offensively for extended minutes every game there is a price to pay. Blake and Harden are going to be perfect examples of that.

Man, I still remember the way Grant Hill ruined himself trying to play through that ankle sprain in the playoffs. Heroic effort at the time, but...

Anyway, I'm not sure I really buy the narrative that the Warriors rushed Durant back too soon. Pretty inconceivable to imagine that Steve Kerr, Steph and whoever else from the roster, coaches and trainers would have pressured him on that. It really doesn't seem typical of them, at least to me.

Now maybe mgmt somehow got involved, or maybe KD wanted to prove something to Draymond as part of their beef, I don't know...

[HardenGoat]

What happened to Durant was not managements fault, they pulled him as soon as the initial injury occurred and put him on treatment. The pressure that mounts on a player to help his team when the finals are at stake must be huge. We are not just talking management and players, we know KD is a social media addict and he ultimately made the decision to play.I don't think there was any way management could really stop him, that's why I say what Detroit did to Blake in a first round series was worse. That man was destroying his leg before our eyes and they did nothing to stop it. There's another player out there that might find a similar fate if warning signs are not heeded. Watch Luka the rest of this season and playoffs, I think someone might need to step in because he has an injury going on that he is always trying to play through.

[MrDollarBills]

Griffin’s been playing significantly worse than what he is capable of in Detroit to fool the team to buy him out for a easy way to a ring.
I have lost all respect for this person and I feel so sorry for the Detroit fan base


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What is it with you 76er fans coming on our board as of late to bad mouth our players? You guys are a bunch of insecure, insufferable clowns and I know why you're doing this, because you know what is coming for you in the playoffs.

No one gives a ****. If you were looking for someone to agree with your whining and crying keep it on your board.

Sorry I pinched a nerve... the truth hurts.
I must apologize, I didn’t realize it’s the Net’s forum, this thread popped up in my feed...




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You're the one upset here dude. It's just weird how we've been having an influx of 76ers fans coming on here as of late. Yall seem nervous