Carmelo Anthony Thread (Denver Finalizes Deal With Knicks)

[vincecarter4pres]

BTW....is there anyone left on our board who actually think...good who cares...qs long a we get Melo, there is no price to great? Anyone still defending this trade? Who thinks give them all the picks, prospects they want. Take o bad contracts....just get the guy. Anyone of that mindset still?

I know of one for sure, but I'm not going to call him out, I'm sure he'll pop up soon enough.

[enetric]

Man... You guys are so pessimistic it makes me giggle.

I'm not pessimistic, I'm realistic and it turns out one of the only respectable NBA writers just happens to agree with me whole heartedly

+1 on the realistic...but you mean us. There were a few of us on this from day one. I spent how many hours on this at the beginning of the Melo crap? On the Troy crap. And other too. Not everyone had it wrong.

[enetric]

anyone else dumbfounded about Denver's internal communication throughout this deal? Publicly they're treating this negotiation like the cuban missile crisis. Internally it sounds like Uriji never says a word to Carmelo and wants to simply pretend this isn't going on. Perhaps they're intentionally trying to keep Melo in the dark since they're pissed at him for wanting out but this whole thing strikes as amateur hour.

I am more dumfounded at the Nets allowing themselves to be played like suckers throughout this. I have simply grown to hate our entire leadership. Owner, coach, GM, CEO. bunch of idiots who are taking it up the pooper on a daily basis ad they STILL dont know if they can even get the guy? Willing to do anything just to have an overrared player who has maxed out...and they still arent sure the guy will say yes?

This has been a lose lose scenario for us and it seems to get worse by the day. I am still scrollinhg throuhg so not sure if anyone posted this yet...but today's rumors have us adding a third pick AND Damion James to the pile.

I have never seen a team with so little control of their own trade actually dictate so many absurd aspects of the trade. Denver should be looking at 50 cents on the dollar for Melo given his complete control of this situation and yet here they are getting a team with among the best trade assets in the league to give them absolutely everything they ask for with no one able to compete with half their offer.

Just a bunch of fools.

The worst part about this is, when we lose out on Melo the rest of the league now knows how Bush League and desperate our FO and ownership is and will play us like chumps in every perspective deal...

This team is wearing thin on me after decades of following them through the fire.

EDIT:

Worst part to me is...even if we dont get this deal done....we have painted ourselves as a desperate ownership group. Everyone will come to us with trades to rape the system. Why would we say no if we are willing to do this crap?

This group of Nets braintrust are like that ONE guy in your fantasy league everyone knows will destroy his team and the competitive balance of your league with all the terrible deal he is willing to make. I just cant believe this is what we get. Hopefully someone will be able to get Proky to understand this league before its too late.

Seems we're on the same page lol.

And so the conspiracy starts... you play fantasy? Where is your representation on the Nets board league? You disappoint me.

Play? I am the man. JJ has been on me for years to do it. I play and run a money league. 10 years so far. 9 finishes in the money (top 3). Once in third, 4 second place...5 titles. I make Joe Dimaggio look like a loser.

THE MAN!

[8 Mile Ilic]

Man... You guys are so pessimistic it makes me giggle.

I'm not pessimistic, I'm realistic and it turns out one of the only respectable NBA writers just happens to agree with me whole heartedly

Eh Woj has always been extremely vindicative.

But I digress...

I can understand not being happy with how this whole melodrama has played out (hell I'm not), but I can't understand making Prokhorov the scapegoat for the Nets failures.

[Netaman]

lol.

do you think Prokhorov regrets not keeping Thorn and giving him more control yet? However this works out I can't imagine he likes the stench of desperation that's out there now.

From what I am reading..Proky is helping to MAKE the stench if not actualyl at the top of the heap of garbage. Several guys are saying that Kings and Avery were ready to walk away long ago and its Proky who is pushing for this.

Who knows what to believe anymore. But Rod walking? I absolutely believe Rod saw that he wasnt going to be setting the ships course anymore. Anyone can steer it. But if a guy tells you to run into the iceberg and not to worry....he is SURE the ship will break through it? Well...maybe jumping in the life raft like Rod did isnt a terrible idea.

Whoever is valling the shots...Proky, King...whoever...you have to just hope they come their senses.


BTW....is there anyone left on our board who actually think...good who cares...qs long a we get Melo, there is no price to great? Anyone still defending this trade? Who thinks give them all the picks, prospects they want. Take o bad contracts....just get the guy. Anyone of that mindset still?

Prokhorov is 100% behind whats going on. Iannazzone reported that even King was sick of Denver making him look stupid in September but he has been given direction that he is to do everything possible. I guess the better way to phrase that question was has Proky realized he was totally wrong to take on control and thereby lose Thorn.

[Lamak]

Our FO is embarrassing our franchise. -_-

[vincecarter4pres]

Man... You guys are so pessimistic it makes me giggle.

I'm not pessimistic, I'm realistic and it turns out one of the only respectable NBA writers just happens to agree with me whole heartedly

+1 on the realistic...but you mean us. There were a few of us on this from day one. I spent how many hours on this at the beginning of the Melo crap? On the Troy crap. And other too. Not everyone had it wrong.

Sorry man, very true.

Jeff and Speedy were in there too IIRC, not sure though.

Jeff for sure I think, but I think Speedy was excited about Murphy.

Now I'm not sure and feel compelled to check.

[vincecarter4pres]

Play? I am the man. JJ has been on me for years to do it. I play and run a money league. 10 years so far. 9 finishes in the money (top 3). Once in third, 4 second place...5 titles. I make Joe Dimaggio look like a loser.

THE MAN!

I want in next year if possible, how much?

[vincecarter4pres]

Regarding the Murphy trade:

Well my apologies, Speedy was against this as well. So was JG.

Kudo's to Speedy figuring out in early August that Avery hated T Will as well.

Take this for what it's worth, but even demens hated this trade.

There were a ton of supporters though and a few that didn't know what to think, but they leaned more towards liking the trade.

[SteveNets15]

I was looking for the Murphy trade thread to see what i thought but couldn't find it.I don't think i posted on it anyway.I did stumble across this thread and found it kind of interesting.I love the Kaman and Griffin trade for Lopez and Favors that 60cent brought up now lol


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[DubaLakers]

Thing with me would be this if Melo is that dead set at NYK or bust I'd never be begging him to come to NJ if your going to back up the brinks truck for a guy that has his mind elsewhere.

[vincecarter4pres]

Thing with me would be this if Melo is that dead set at NYK or bust I'd never be begging him to come to NJ if your going to back up the brinks truck for a guy that has his mind elsewhere.

Well most Nets fans on here are with you, but ownership isn't that smart.

[jman3134]

As much as I dont want the Nix to get him...is as much as I DONT WANT HIM FOR THESE PRICES.....wait...more. I loathe the idea of making this trade more than not.

20 win teams loaded with high draft picks...I LIKE THAT IDEA for a couple more seasons than this mess.

Worst part to me is...even if we dont get this deal done....we have painted ourselves as a desperate ownership group. Everyone will come to us with trades to rape the system. Why would we say no if we are willing to do this crap?

This group of Nets braintrust are like that ONE guy in your fantasy league everyone knows will destroy his team and the competitive balance of your league with all the terrible deal he is willing to make. I just cant believe this is what we get. Hopefully someone will be able to get Proky to understand this league before its too late.

In one sense, that might turn out for the best. If this forces the Nets organization to grow organically, (like the Spurs did originally and have been doing) then maybe it's for the best?

[DusterBuster]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AjS0NeVxGZlPkPc8WSY0nFW8vLYF?slug=aw-netsanthony011711

Any thoughts?

Wojnarowski is a grade A level douche nozzle. He seems like a just terrible terrible human being. His editor must really hate him too since this sentence somehow go through without correction...

There’s no blueprint, just a serious of shots in the dark.

I believe the word you're looking for is 'series' Adrian. Keep up the barely tabloid level quality writing Woj!

[xam2k7]

i have been a melo advocate during this entire process but i think im starting to have a change of heart... 5 draft picks is absolutely amazing to have and maybe we could look elsewhere before the trading deadline to improve in a less cost-worthy, younger way.

one thing that i still stand by is harris HAS to go, and im still not that impressed with favors. but i think if we were to move them we could end up with better than melo and a couple of geezers

[treiz]

Man... You guys are so pessimistic it makes me giggle.

I'm not pessimistic, I'm realistic and it turns out one of the only respectable NBA writers just happens to agree with me whole heartedly

Eh Woj has always been extremely vindicative.

But I digress...

I can understand not being happy with how this whole melodrama has played out (hell I'm not), but I can't understand making Prokhorov the scapegoat for the Nets failures.

Because it's been rumoured that he's the only that's still pushing this trade, Avery and King wanted to walk out a long time ago, but Proky is still insistent and stubborn that he just won't leave it be, and now look where it's gotten us. The only reason Proky is being used as a scapegoat is because he's the one thats put us in this position. Even after all the BS he spoke about at the beginning of his reign.

To make this into an analogy, we now look like that girl from and time in your life, one you would nickname "The Big Easy". After Denver is done raping us, the rest of the league will join in on the fun.

[treiz]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AjS0NeVxGZlPkPc8WSY0nFW8vLYF?slug=aw-netsanthony011711

Any thoughts?

Wojnarowski is a grade A level douche nozzle. He seems like a just terrible terrible human being. His editor must really hate him too since this sentence somehow go through without correction...

There’s no blueprint, just a serious of shots in the dark.

I believe the word you're looking for is 'series' Adrian. Keep up the barely tabloid level quality writing Woj!

Wow, you're really going to bust his balls over one incorrect use of words?

[treiz]

i have been a melo advocate during this entire process but i think im starting to have a change of heart... 5 draft picks is absolutely amazing to have and maybe we could look elsewhere before the trading deadline to improve in a less cost-worthy, younger way.

one thing that i still stand by is harris HAS to go, and im still not that impressed with favors. but i think if we were to move them we could end up with better than melo and a couple of geezers

This is what I was telling you in the last thread, glad to see you're closely coming over to the dark side

[Revolutionistt]

i have been a melo advocate during this entire process but i think im starting to have a change of heart... 5 draft picks is absolutely amazing to have and maybe we could look elsewhere before the trading deadline to improve in a less cost-worthy, younger way.

one thing that i still stand by is harris HAS to go, and im still not that impressed with favors. but i think if we were to move them we could end up with better than melo and a couple of geezers

Im sort of going in this direction as well, but I dont think the Nets are trading all 5 of their first round picks but I might be wrong. This whole process is just pissing me off so much now that I just want it to end, Melo or not just let me hear one day "The Melo trade rumors are done and this is what happened". As far as 5 draft picks being amazing lets take a look at the last 5 picks the Nets have made.

Favors, James, Twill, Lopez, Anderson. Starting with Favors, hes still too young to come to a judgement on, so nobody can say he was worth the #3 pick or that he wasnt. Damion James is also still a rookie but I dont think anyone really sees him as an impact player. Twill was a failure. Lopez has been great. Ryan Anderson was very serviceable but hes been traded so it doesnt matter. Of the last 5 draft picks only Lopez has really been a high impact player on the borderline of being an all star. So Im not against trading draft picks for a proven player of Carmelos status.

[jamrock1975]

knicks fan here and I am not trolling. I have read all the direct quotes from Carmelo Anthony as well as watched some of his interviews. I really don't care if he comes to the Knicks and Nets to be quite honest with you. I would love to have him as it would take pressure off of Stoudemire but we have bigger issues on defense more than anything else. We are no. 1 or 2 in the leauge in scoring we need players on the other side of the ball However what I will say is that I am almost 99% sure that Carmelo does not want to go the Nets based on the direct quotes I have read from him, as well as his reactions to when the Nets are brought up.

He will never come out and flat out say that he does not want to go the Nets, but his actions and words suggest he does not want. I can actually see Melo staying Denver before he goes to the Nets. The Nets are going through the same thing the Knicks did last year. They are not winning and they don't have any established players on their team. The best prized asset they have on New Jersey is Brooke and he seems to have regressed this year. The Knicks went ahead and upgraded with Stoudemire and Felton and set themselves to have cap space to sign Melo this off season and to have another impact player next season in preferably Deron Willims. Most Knicks fans would rather have Deron Williams over Chris Paul and I think management would view it the same way. The front office is going about it the wrong way, what they need to do is show Melo that they are committed to winning by making a trade before they come back to Melo and try to get someone who Melo can see himself playing with the next five years. Proky needs to let the front office do their job and stop pulling rank. The front office is losing credibility everyday by looking like a girl trying to go on a date with a guy and the guy doesn't want to hurt feelings.

Again I am not trolling and just really starting to see what's going on here. That statement about him being in the league for 9 years and wanting to be able to compete for championship in my opinion is a dig at the Nets because of their record. Answer this honestly if you were Carmelo Anthony would you go to a team that is 10-31? The longer this trade doesn't go through the sooner the nets will be out of playoff contention, there is still a month left to go before the trade deadline, they have the potential to lose another 7-10 games before the trade deadline and they would be out of the playoff race, he definitely wont' want to come then because this would be his first season not being in the playoffs. Just think about that