Why Teletovic should start for Brooklyn

[Pen Island]

Ah, feels like I never left NetsDaily. DWOTG calling a player a bust after <200 minutes played in the NBA.

Destroying your credibility here is going to be a lot quicker now that people can call you out on your BS.

[DWILLoftheGODZ]

Ah, feels like I never left NetsDaily. DWOTG calling a player a bust after <200 minutes played in the NBA.

Destroying your credibility here is going to be a lot quicker now that people can call you out on your BS.

I guess Mirza's 4 consecutive airballs are the final nail in my coffin. It's obvious Mirza will be a star

[Pen Island]

Ah, feels like I never left NetsDaily. DWOTG calling a player a bust after <200 minutes played in the NBA.

Destroying your credibility here is going to be a lot quicker now that people can call you out on your BS.

I guess Mirza's 4 consecutive airballs are the final nail in my coffin. It's obvious Mirza will be a star

Incredible. I can only imagine the things you were doing while Mirza missed those shots. I can only imagine. Let me stop myself, I DON'T want to imagine.

Your hatred for this guy is not only wholly unfounded, it makes you look like a fool when you start clamoring for his release after a few missed shots. The fact that you don't see that is really really concerning. You're either a well designed Knicks troll or a pretty damn big hater.

[DWILLoftheGODZ]

Ah, feels like I never left NetsDaily. DWOTG calling a player a bust after <200 minutes played in the NBA.

Destroying your credibility here is going to be a lot quicker now that people can call you out on your BS.

I guess Mirza's 4 consecutive airballs are the final nail in my coffin. It's obvious Mirza will be a star

Incredible. I can only imagine the things you were doing while Mirza missed those shots. I can only imagine. Let me stop myself, I DON'T want to imagine.

Your hatred for this guy is not only wholly unfounded, it makes you look like a fool when you start clamoring for his release after a few missed shots. The fact that you don't see that is really really concerning. You're either a well designed Knicks troll or a pretty damn big hater.

Fool? OK Guy is shooting sub 37% FG. I tend to hate players who do that on my favorite team. Why you do not should be in question?

[Pen Island]

Fool? OK Guy is shooting sub 37% FG. I tend to hate players who do that on my favorite team. Why you do not should be in question?

Guy is shooting 37% from the field in his first year in the NBA, playing sporadic minutes for the worst head coach in the league, and shooting 37% with the pressure of performing in order to get playing time.

I've always preached perspective with you. No one has said this guy is going to be a star. But why not give him some playing time to find out what you have. If he sucks? Great. Move on. But no one knows what we have because he has been criminally mistreated here.

[Paradise]

1. His airballs come from the fact, he's thrown into the fire. If you put him in a rotation where he gets minutes consistent minutes like he should have when he was producing last month, he wouldn't have resorted to being an airball shooter. It's like, he shoots his shots way too quickly trying to impress the coach to get PT or trying to make the most of his minutes.

That's the coaches fault especially since we KNOW he can be a key player off the bench or as a starter.

2. Shooting 37% for a rookie isn't abnormal. The key is the fact, he shoots 50% from outside.

3. I find it hilarious how you use sample size to hate him but people can't use the same amount of time to praise what he's actually provided.

[DWILLoftheGODZ]

1. His airballs come from the fact, he's thrown into the fire. If you put him in a rotation where he gets minutes consistent minutes like he should have when he was producing last month, he wouldn't have resorted to being an airball shooter. It's like, he shoots his shots way too quickly trying to impress the coach to get PT or trying to make the most of his minutes.

That's the coaches fault especially since we KNOW he can be a key player off the bench or as a starter.

2. Shooting 37% for a rookie isn't abnormal. The key is the fact, he shoots 50% from outside.

3. I find it hilarious how you use sample size to hate him but people can't use the same amount of time to praise what he's actually provided.

Stretch the truth much?

1. He had 2 good games, not a month. You act as if he were the 1st player to come off the bench. Saying he would play better with more minutes has no basis in common sense. He cant even play well in the risk free minutes he is getting now. I call it being selfish, not trying to impress. If he wanted to impress the coaches how about boxing someone out when a shot goes up instead of watching the play or passing the ball when your shot isnt even finding the rim.

2. Shooting 36.8% is bad for anyone. Mirza isnt a rookie. he is 27 years old and was brought in contribute from day 1 not year 2. And he is shooting 35.6% from 3 NOT 50%. Your making stats up.

3. I use my eyes to judge him. He just isnt a good player. I said that in the preseason and Mirza hasnt done anything to change my view. I actually expected him to be halfway decent offensively but he isnt even shooting well. Defensively he is who I thought he was, a huge liability. He is a classic SF/PF tweener. Not fast enough to defend the perimeter not big enough to defend the post. The NBA is riddled with tweener bust like Mirza. He would have to be shooting 50% to justify playing time because he hurts the team so much on defense and rebounding. He isnt worth the time and PJ hinted as much after the last game.

[N Ireland Nets]

Mirza isnt a rookie

What?

[DWILLoftheGODZ]

Mirza isnt a rookie

What?

Mirza has close to 10 years professional experience. That's like calling Sabonis a rookie when he came to the NBA. He is a finished product at this point of his career. You cant compare him to Toko or Taylor who are both in the development stages of their basketball careers.

He is expected to hit the ground running. That's why he was supposedly taking a pay cut with the MLE. What a joke.

[Pen Island]

Do you really fail to see the difference between the two leagues or do you just pretend it's like getting traded from the West to the East?

[PetroNet]

1. His airballs come from the fact, he's thrown into the fire. If you put him in a rotation where he gets minutes consistent minutes like he should have when he was producing last month, he wouldn't have resorted to being an airball shooter. It's like, he shoots his shots way too quickly trying to impress the coach to get PT or trying to make the most of his minutes.

this is just pure and utter horse crap. these guys are professionals. i dont care if he was sitting for 35 minutes before coming in, thats no excuse to miss everything on 3 straight shots.

and if that really is the issue, that he is so shaken by the pressure to impress his coach, then that not the metnally weak type of guy we need. we have enough of those already

the airballs arent a big deal, it was 1 game that was already a lost cause. but to excuse it away on some doo-doo like that is just silly

[PetroNet]

2. Shooting 36.8% is bad for anyone. Mirza isnt a rookie. he is 27 years old and was brought in contribute from day 1 not year 2. And he is shooting 35.6% from 3 NOT 50%. Your making stats up.

FG% is a horrible stat, especially for a guy playing limited spot minutes for whom over 60% of his shots are from three.

TS% is clearly a far superior stat, and he has been very respectable in that aspect, over 50% and over 55% the past month.

[DWILLoftheGODZ]

Do you really fail to see the difference between the two leagues or do you just pretend it's like getting traded from the West to the East?

I dont care about Europe. Im sure he was great there.

Im a Nets fan and this is the NBA. Adapt or die. He isnt adapting. He has been getting worse, not better. He cost us a shot at getting someone who can contribute.

At this point of the year I dont see how even the most ardent Mirza supporters can say that he isnt a bust. The guy hasnt even hit the rim in over 2 games.

I like this board because when I read ND all I see is "why doesnt PJ just experiment by inserting Mirza into the starting lineup and give him 24 minutes." That's not how professional sports work. You earn your playing in the NBA. Giving someone time they havent earned will cause a huge rift in the locker room.

For all the hate people have for Evans you cant argue with his success in the starting lineup. And isnt that what the Nets are playing for; to win games?

[Pen Island]

I dont care about Europe. Im sure he was great there.

Im a Nets fan and this is the NBA. Adapt or die. He isnt adapting. He has been getting worse, not better. He cost us a shot at getting someone who can contribute.

You're changing the subject. You treat him like a veteran, yet refuse to acknowledge the difference between the two leagues. There's a huge difference between the two leagues. Teams overseas exclusively play zone defense. Teams in Europe exclusively play heavy, motion offenses. In Europe HE was the primary ball handler nearly half the time up the floor. You're refusing to acknowledge all of this and expect him to magically adjust to an NBA, isolation heavy game full of world-class athletes all-while being asked to set screens and camp behind the three point line. THAT is not his game. THAT takes time to adjust to. Whether you acknowledge it or not.

At this point of the year I dont see how even the most ardent Mirza supporters can say that he isnt a bust. The guy hasnt even hit the rim in over 2 games.

Because even the most vicious Mirza detractors can at least have the common sense to understand that you can't call a player a "bust" after less than 200 minutes. Even the most vicious Mirza detractors can at least have the brains to understand that a player set up to fail will most likely fail. Look at Lin, Green, and the countless other talents ruined by organizations and who flourished elsewhere.

I like this board because when I read ND all I see is "why doesnt PJ just experiment by inserting Mirza into the starting lineup and give him 24 minutes." That's not how professional sports work. You earn your playing in the NBA. Giving someone time they havent earned will cause a huge rift in the locker room.

This is wrong. When your coach continues to say "spreading the floor and spacing is a big issue" yet insists on leaving the ONLY guy who can space the floor on the bench, of COURSE you demand that that guy plays. Because THAT guy can create driving lanes for Deron and Wallace. THAT guy can prevent double teams on the pick and roll even if he shoots 100 air balls in a row because teams have 10 YEARS of scouting reports on the guy shooting over 40% from the parking lot overseas.

For all the hate people have for Evans you cant argue with his success in the starting lineup. And isnt that what the Nets are playing for; to win games?

Yes you can. Because we win in SPITE of Evans. He leaves the game with the Nets trailing ROUTINELY only to be bailed out by Blatche/Hump/Brooks or whoever decides to show up that game.

[Paradise]

Do you really fail to see the difference between the two leagues or do you just pretend it's like getting traded from the West to the East?

I dont care about Europe. Im sure he was great there.

Im a Nets fan and this is the NBA. Adapt or die. He isnt adapting. He has been getting worse, not better. He cost us a shot at getting someone who can contribute.

At this point of the year I dont see how even the most ardent Mirza supporters can say that he isnt a bust. The guy hasnt even hit the rim in over 2 games.

I like this board because when I read ND all I see is "why doesnt PJ just experiment by inserting Mirza into the starting lineup and give him 24 minutes." That's not how professional sports work. You earn your playing in the NBA. Giving someone time they havent earned will cause a huge rift in the locker room.

For all the hate people have for Evans you cant argue with his success in the starting lineup. And isnt that what the Nets are playing for; to win games?

You just said he isn't a rookie because he has 10 years of Euro experience. Now, you don't care about Europe.

[Petrofor3]

Mirza can shoot and score the rock problem is his confidence is shot as PJ does not trust him at all on the other side of the court.

[DWILLoftheGODZ]

You just said he isn't a rookie because he has 10 years of Euro experience. Now, you don't care about Europe.

Yeah I dont care what he did vs the guys who cant play in the NBA. He cant do it vs NBA players. He isnt some young kid out of college who doesnt know how to play. He knows how to play, he is just limited athletically

[PetroNet]

Mirza can shoot and score the rock problem is his confidence is shot as PJ does not trust him at all on the other side of the court.

like i said earlier, if he is someone whose confidence is that fragile we are better off without him. we have a team full of mentally weak players already

[Paradise]

You just said he isn't a rookie because he has 10 years of Euro experience. Now, you don't care about Europe.

Yeah I dont care what he did vs the guys who cant play in the NBA. He cant do it vs NBA players. He isnt some young kid out of college who doesnt know how to play. He knows how to play, he is just limited athletically

Totally.

14 points, 8 points vs OKC, 10 points, etc...Shooting 50% from the 15feet area must be against the D-League calls huh?

[DWILLoftheGODZ]

You just said he isn't a rookie because he has 10 years of Euro experience. Now, you don't care about Europe.

Yeah I dont care what he did vs the guys who cant play in the NBA. He cant do it vs NBA players. He isnt some young kid out of college who doesnt know how to play. He knows how to play, he is just limited athletically

Totally.

14 points, 8 points vs OKC, 10 points, etc...Shooting 50% from the 15feet area must be against the D-League calls huh?

1 game out of 50. Pop the bubbly. 2% success ratio. And it wasnt vs OKC it was vs Sactown which is as close to Euroleague as it gets.