If Push Came to Shove... (Irving Trade)

[Fable]

Kyrie being an anti-vaxxer and refusing to get a jab will make the league competitive so I hope he would never vaccinate using any excuse.

There is a board for morons, trolls, and racists. maybe post this nonsense there ----> viewforum.php?f=6

You post there since it's a place for you.

[harlem_ball]

Patty Mills is a hell of a player. Kyrie won't be missed much.

[Paradise]

Kyrie being an anti-vaxxer and refusing to get a jab will make the league competitive so I hope he would never vaccinate using any excuse.

There is a board for morons, trolls, and racists. maybe post this nonsense there ----> viewforum.php?f=6

You post there since it's a place for you.

This is a place for Nets fans. Regardless of views. Know your place.

[MrDollarBills]

Patty Mills is a hell of a player. Kyrie won't be missed much.

Yeah but the idea was to have Patty run SG next to Harden as he runs the 2nd unit, which would be a back breaking unit to defend for most benches in the league. Very disappointing if this doesn't play out the right way.

[MrDollarBills]

There is a board for morons, trolls, and racists. maybe post this nonsense there ----> viewforum.php?f=6

You post there since it's a place for you.

This is a place for Nets fans. Regardless of views. Know your place.

[harlem_ball]

Patty Mills is a hell of a player. Kyrie won't be missed much.

Yeah but the idea was to have Patty run SG next to Harden as he runs the 2nd unit, which would be a back breaking unit to defend for most benches in the league. Very disappointing if this doesn't play out the right way.

Kyrie fighting the man wasn't in the cards either

[ajones9219]

Again, KD and Kyrie are tight BECAUSE of this, not in exception to it. Taking stands and being empowered is what fuels both of them. They didnt team up because they both like pokemon and all of a sudden KD is like "huh this kyrie dude puts weird crap before basketball"

Read KDs essays, listen to KDs podcast (specifically the ones with kyrie on) and read the book about the 2019 nets.

do that, and it is abundantly clear basketball is not #1 priority for either (while still a major priority for both) and that both put empowerment and supporting personal choice first.

i dont know about hardem, but for KD/Kyrie this is why they bonded

Unbelievable, at least pretend that you understood main point. Whatever happened in a past only go that far. Things change everytime, what you do next is what going to show how things going to turn out.


Plain and simple for you. Me and my ex been in great relationship for three years and than got married. We were good for another five till things changed and we divorced. Comprehend now?

The reasons you got divorced I assume are different then the reasons you got married right? like things change?

Kyrie taking a personal stand despite the blow back is why KD/Kyrie "got married". This is the thing that bonds them. KD/Kyrie might have a falling out at some time. of course that could happen. but it would never be something like this. this if anything will bring them closer together. Its why they vibe in the first place.

I've seen some crazy takes of yours but this one might take the cake. Come on bro

[Paradise]

Unbelievable, at least pretend that you understood main point. Whatever happened in a past only go that far. Things change everytime, what you do next is what going to show how things going to turn out.


Plain and simple for you. Me and my ex been in great relationship for three years and than got married. We were good for another five till things changed and we divorced. Comprehend now?

The reasons you got divorced I assume are different then the reasons you got married right? like things change?

Kyrie taking a personal stand despite the blow back is why KD/Kyrie "got married". This is the thing that bonds them. KD/Kyrie might have a falling out at some time. of course that could happen. but it would never be something like this. this if anything will bring them closer together. Its why they vibe in the first place.

I've seen some crazy takes of yours but this one might take the cake. Come on bro

So, when Kyrie does take the vaccine or anyone else in life….are you all going to take back the ignorant, vile and childish insults thrown at them on a consistent basis?

Or

Will some of you admit, you are internet thugs and couldn’t even hold a candle to that same level of ridicule and pressure in your own life?

[ajones9219]

The reasons you got divorced I assume are different then the reasons you got married right? like things change?

Kyrie taking a personal stand despite the blow back is why KD/Kyrie "got married". This is the thing that bonds them. KD/Kyrie might have a falling out at some time. of course that could happen. but it would never be something like this. this if anything will bring them closer together. Its why they vibe in the first place.

I've seen some crazy takes of yours but this one might take the cake. Come on bro

So, when Kyrie does take the vaccine or anyone else in life….are you all going to take back the ignorant, vile and childish insults thrown at them on a consistent basis?

Or

Will some of you admit, you are internet thugs and couldn’t even hold a candle to that same level of ridicule and pressure in your own life?

Is it bullying to ask that a player making millions of dollars give the bare minimum and get a shot to be available for his team?

[Paradise]

I've seen some crazy takes of yours but this one might take the cake. Come on bro

So, when Kyrie does take the vaccine or anyone else in life….are you all going to take back the ignorant, vile and childish insults thrown at them on a consistent basis?

Or

Will some of you admit, you are internet thugs and couldn’t even hold a candle to that same level of ridicule and pressure in your own life?

Is it bullying to ask that a player making millions of dollars give the bare minimum and get a shot to be available for his team?

Are you going to blatantly ignore the fact, this is not drinking alcohol or eating pork?

This is an actual topic that millionaires, doctors and politicians outside of sports also disagree with each other on? That sounds incredibly entitled.

You won’t die, your life won’t change if he stopped becoming a millionaire tomorrow or god forbid had to retire due to health complications like LMA. Every decision any athlete makes impacts his own family first. That’s the point.

Does Lebron, Draymond and anymore millionaires doing the “bare minimum” have to remind you again of our place as a fan and spectator in these type of dynamics?

It sounds similar to the fans who complained about protesting, forfeiting and walking out of games for the cop killings a year ago.

Acting like he’s Ben Simmons or something is ridiculous. The season hasn’t even started yet and he’s been in every freaking practice in camp.

[MrDollarBills]

Tomorrow the team returns to NY.

Kyrie absolutely cannot let this carry over past this week. Andrew Wiggins got vaccinated. He's fine. Unless there are legitimate health reasons such as a history of allergic reactions or if he's immunocompromised, Kyrie needs to get this over with so that he and the team can move on.

Also, this is another reason why:

https://www.si.com/hockey/news/oilers-forward-josh-archibald-out-indefinitely-with-myocarditis

Edmonton Oilers coach Dave Tippett has said that forward Josh Archibald is out indefinitely after having been diagnosed with myocarditis.

Tippett also revealed that Archibald had COVID-19 over the off-season. Earlier in September, Oilers GM Ken Holland confirmed to Oilers Now Radio host Bob Stauffer that Archibald was the only unvaccinated player on the team.

^this guy who is now out with long haul covid issues was a loud and proud antivaxxer. Now his life is in danger because myocarditis can kill you at any time.

This ain't just about basketball. Jason Tatum is probably going to need an inhaler for the rest of his career. Asia Durr from the Liberty is still suffering from what the virus did to her. It's not worth the risk. Get it done.

[gigantes]

Edmonton Oilers coach Dave Tippett has said that forward Josh Archibald is out indefinitely after having been diagnosed with myocarditis.

Tippett also revealed that Archibald had COVID-19 over the off-season. Earlier in September, Oilers GM Ken Holland confirmed to Oilers Now Radio host Bob Stauffer that Archibald was the only unvaccinated player on the team.

^this guy who is now out with long haul covid issues was a loud and proud antivaxxer. Now his life is in danger because myocarditis can kill you at any time.

This ain't just about basketball. Jason Tatum is probably going to need an inhaler for the rest of his career. Asia Durr from the Liberty is still suffering from what the virus did to her. It's not worth the risk. Get it done.

Damn... Jason Tatum, really? He was arguably on track to become maybe a top three player in the league, and now this? oO

But yeah, this kind of thing is what a lot of anti-vaxxers don't seem to grasp-- the idea that you might only risk a passing sickness or just outright die (personally I was existentially fine with either option before I got vaxxed), but not so much that your foolish negligence might just give you permanent health problems. Not to mention, trying to cope with such in the one major nation where medicine has been completely taken over by profiteering, where ~half of all personal bankruptcies are due to an ability to cope with enormous medical bills.

These 'taking a stand' people are living rent free in their own heads like few wackadoodles I've read about in human history. But these are definitely some wackadoodle days, so I guess the shoe somehow fits.

[TheNetsFan]

I'm not a cardiologist, but one has to wonder if Aldridge is higher risk due to his previous heart issues. If that is the case, one could argue that the team needs to be more cautious and stricter in terms of mandate because of that. Of course the flip can be argued that Aldridge, if higher risk, shouldn't be putting himself into a dangerous environment.

[MrDollarBills]

I'm not a cardiologist, but one has to wonder if Aldridge is higher risk due to his previous heart issues. If that is the case, one could argue that the team needs to be more cautious and stricter in terms of mandate because of that. Of course the flip can be argued that Aldridge, if higher risk, shouldn't be putting himself into a dangerous environment.

Per WebMD:

Coronavirus can also damage the heart directly, which can be especially risky if your heart is already weakened by the effects of high blood pressure. The virus may cause inflammation of the heart muscle called myocarditis, which makes it harder for the heart to pump.

So yeah I'd say he's definitely at risk.

I'm sure that he has consulted with doctors and the staff and they've determined that he should be fine especially since he's vaccinated. However, being around a 100% vaccinated team and staff will go a long way in protecting him, something that I hope Kyrie is aware of while he makes his decision.

[HardenGoat]

Myocarditis is an inflammatory condition of the heart and can occur when a virus causes a sudden demand on the immune system. Unvaccinated people are the most at risk. Aldridge does not have an organic heart problem (heart muscle, valves, etc), he has an electrical conduction feedback loop disorder which he most likely elected for eblation treatment to correct (he probably has avoided this for years choosing medication to control). I have seen young patients succumb to virus induced myocarditis and become vegetables living in long term care facilities as a result. Kyrie himself would be most at risk although Aldridge would still be a higher risk than the rest of the players. Having him unvaccinated is a risk to everyone and it's sad he is trying to set an example that is opposite what is best for society regardless of race.

[Prokorov]

Patty Mills is a hell of a player. Kyrie won't be missed much.

Yeah but the idea was to have Patty run SG next to Harden as he runs the 2nd unit, which would be a back breaking unit to defend for most benches in the league. Very disappointing if this doesn't play out the right way.

Kyrie last season: 27 ppg, 50/40/90

Mills best season, per36 to inflate volume scoring: 18 ppg on 43/38/86

so like, even if you give mills more volume/minutes and dont assume his averages go down with more volume he is still giving you like 40% less production on a ton less efficiency/shooting.

The idea he "wouldnt be missed so much" is absurd. especially if you also factor in the guy you replace mills with as a 6th man is a downgrade also.

if people want to hate on kyrie or trade him thats their opinion and fine. but lets not pretend like we would be replacing lou williams or jordan clarkson.

[Prokorov]

Unbelievable, at least pretend that you understood main point. Whatever happened in a past only go that far. Things change everytime, what you do next is what going to show how things going to turn out.


Plain and simple for you. Me and my ex been in great relationship for three years and than got married. We were good for another five till things changed and we divorced. Comprehend now?

The reasons you got divorced I assume are different then the reasons you got married right? like things change?

Kyrie taking a personal stand despite the blow back is why KD/Kyrie "got married". This is the thing that bonds them. KD/Kyrie might have a falling out at some time. of course that could happen. but it would never be something like this. this if anything will bring them closer together. Its why they vibe in the first place.

I've seen some crazy takes of yours but this one might take the cake. Come on bro

its all in the book, KDS podcast, and KDs 4 itnerviews with kyrie. it isnt my words, its KD words

[Prokorov]

I've seen some crazy takes of yours but this one might take the cake. Come on bro

So, when Kyrie does take the vaccine or anyone else in life….are you all going to take back the ignorant, vile and childish insults thrown at them on a consistent basis?

Or

Will some of you admit, you are internet thugs and couldn’t even hold a candle to that same level of ridicule and pressure in your own life?

Is it bullying to ask that a player making millions of dollars give the bare minimum and get a shot to be available for his team?

A racist Boston fan obviously wouldnt care about telling a black man what to do with his body and calling it the "minimum"

i know it sucks not to be able to control every black person. maybe go back to the boston forum and cry with other racists regarding that

[Prokorov]

Tomorrow the team returns to NY.

Kyrie absolutely cannot let this carry over past this week. Andrew Wiggins got vaccinated. He's fine. Unless there are legitimate health reasons such as a history of allergic reactions or if he's immunocompromised, Kyrie needs to get this over with so that he and the team can move on.

Of course it can carry over past this week. LONG past this week. Wiggins is irrelevant as is anyone else. It is Kyrie's decision to make and you have 0 insight into what is going on. Maybe he is working on a religious appeal. Maybe there are plans with contingencies. If he can get an exemption that process probably takes time and why should he wave his request for an exemption because it doesnt fit your timeline?

This goes back to the bashing Kyrie for being out, then everyone looking like an A-hole when it came out he missed the time for the birth of his kid. Kyrie keeps it personal, the team and his teammates support him. people need to deal with that, not some made up assumed reality with arbitrary timelines

[Prokorov]

I'm not a cardiologist, but one has to wonder if Aldridge is higher risk due to his previous heart issues. If that is the case, one could argue that the team needs to be more cautious and stricter in terms of mandate because of that. Of course the flip can be argued that Aldridge, if higher risk, shouldn't be putting himself into a dangerous environment.

Per WebMD:

Coronavirus can also damage the heart directly, which can be especially risky if your heart is already weakened by the effects of high blood pressure. The virus may cause inflammation of the heart muscle called myocarditis, which makes it harder for the heart to pump.

So yeah I'd say he's definitely at risk.

I'm sure that he has consulted with doctors and the staff and they've determined that he should be fine especially since he's vaccinated. However, being around a 100% vaccinated team and staff will go a long way in protecting him, something that I hope Kyrie is aware of while he makes his decision.

Kyrie makes his decision, Alrdidge makes his. unless kyrie is breaking some law, its not on him to make decisions for LMA.