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Re: GT: Nets vs Pistons 1/26 7:30pm 

Post#101 » by Eatgreenz » Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:31 pm

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OfficialRef wrote:I still cannot believe Ben didn't even score a single point.

At home against the Pistons with no KD.. the team drops 122 points, and you can't even score ONE bucket!? Hes gotta go


Every time he gets the ball close to the basket he tries to move away from it. He is just too soft to be considered a serious player.


Simmons clowned Embiid on defence last night so hardly soft

When are you guys going to realize that he's physically shot right now?

It's been months and I have seen him attempt exactly ONE running dunk

I have been there as has Michael Porter Jr (not to compare us btw)

He's months away & the Nets have no choice but to ride it out until his body & brain are right again

Yea Ben not having his explosiveness is tying into him having 0 confidence in his offensive game right now. It sucks he wont adapt his game untill it comes back. All we can do is wait for him to get back. I watch old ben highlights smh if he gets it back by playoffs, nobody will want to face us
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Re: GT: Nets vs Pistons 1/26 7:30pm 

Post#102 » by OfficialRef » Fri Jan 27, 2023 2:06 pm

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OfficialRef wrote:Team has too many trash contracts in Ben (35m), Joe(20m), and patty (MLE)

I didn't think it was possible but Marks might have created a worse roster than last season. At least last season had Harden but now we're stuck with bad contracts on a team thats supposed to compete

What a dumb fuc*.

If you had any clue, it's chain reaction to what Tsai did.

Want to bark on Marks, at least give us all a favor and follow what Lewis say.

What did Tsai do?

Marks gave Patty the extra $ when he opted out. Marks traded Harden for Ben. Marks offered Joe the big contract and had every opportunity to trade him before.

If you're gonna say something stupid at least try to make sense. Otherwise, leave the conversation for the adults little fella.
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Re: GT: Nets vs Pistons 1/26 7:30pm 

Post#103 » by NetsWorld » Fri Jan 27, 2023 2:07 pm

Eatgreenz wrote:
Decipher wrote:
Gooner wrote:
Every time he gets the ball close to the basket he tries to move away from it. He is just too soft to be considered a serious player.


Simmons clowned Embiid on defence last night so hardly soft

When are you guys going to realize that he's physically shot right now?

It's been months and I have seen him attempt exactly ONE running dunk

I have been there as has Michael Porter Jr (not to compare us btw)

He's months away & the Nets have no choice but to ride it out until his body & brain are right again

Yea Ben not having his explosiveness is tying into him having 0 confidence in his offensive game right now. It sucks he wont adapt his game untill it comes back. All we can do is wait for him to get back. I watch old ben highlights smh if he gets it back by playoffs, nobody will want to face us



I won't say never but I think the ship has sailed on his 2018-2019 version. Don't see it; the back injury and personal matters he had to deal with really took a toll; Seth Curry said it best at the beginning of the year, it will be an extremely rocky road as he was out for one year and coming off of back surgery. But Nets don't really have much time. This is a contract year for Kai, KD will almost assuredly request a trade if we fall of a cliff. I am praying we at least maintain the four seed with a chance to go into the three seed. Nets really need to make a trade and badly; last night's game proved they need young studs out there performing in games like this and against the likes of the Celtics, Bucks and Sixers. I really hope Marks is a goner after this season, the question is, will it be to late? NETS HAVE TO WIN this year or KD/Kai are done and gone.
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Re: GT: Nets vs Pistons 1/26 7:30pm 

Post#104 » by CalamityX12 » Fri Jan 27, 2023 3:12 pm

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Re: GT: Nets vs Pistons 1/26 7:30pm 

Post#105 » by Hello Brooklyn » Fri Jan 27, 2023 5:22 pm

Papi_swav wrote:Bad loss, our defense was non existent. Joe Harris literally does nothing and gives up an instant AND1 foul to the opposing players. Wish we would of kept Bey, he's a legit player and the kind of guy we need for our team right now. It's pretty much just Kyrie and Claxton out there right now. Sumner had a career game but it went to waste, Seph had a career game last night and it also went to waste. Nobody else is stepping up so we need a spark, get some new players and some young legs.

This is the game where we should of played Duke and Edwards, Idk why Vaughn doesn't play the young fresh legs especially on a back 2 back and especially against a young team like Detroit who has a bunch of young energizer bunnies. Guys couldn't keep up on defense after fighting last night. Edwards and Duke couldn't of been worse than Joe Harris. These type of games we should not be losing and will come back to bite us.


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When we have a total lack of energy on defense we need to put in Duke or Edwards. They will at least play hard.
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Re: GT: Nets vs Pistons 1/26 7:30pm 

Post#106 » by Hello Brooklyn » Fri Jan 27, 2023 5:27 pm

When you take away KD and Simmons there is basically no good wing defender on the whole team. Besides Royce who is inconsistent.

We just got torched last night.

Yuta/Harris/Royce needed to step up and play hard defense. And they just couldn't.
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Re: GT: Nets vs Pistons 1/26 7:30pm 

Post#107 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Jan 27, 2023 5:56 pm

CalamityX12 wrote:Sadiq Bey
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Yep.... just **** kill me yep.....


Everytime he hit a shot i knew you would be pissed :lol:
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Re: GT: Nets vs Pistons 1/26 7:30pm 

Post#108 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Jan 27, 2023 6:03 pm

Someone needs to make the Nets v Knicks thread for tomorrow. The game is a Saturday afternoon matinee
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Re: GT: Nets vs Pistons 1/26 7:30pm 

Post#109 » by ArksNetsSince99 » Fri Jan 27, 2023 6:10 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:Someone needs to make the Nets v Knicks thread for tomorrow. The game is a Saturday afternoon matinee


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Re: GT: Nets vs Pistons 1/26 7:30pm 

Post#110 » by ArksNetsSince99 » Fri Jan 27, 2023 6:12 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:When you take away KD and Simmons there is basically no good wing defender on the whole team. Besides Royce who is inconsistent.

We just got torched last night.

Yuta/Harris/Royce needed to step up and play hard defense. And they just couldn't.


Yuta wasn’t bad on D , maybe average but certainly not bad
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Re: GT: Nets vs Pistons 1/26 7:30pm 

Post#111 » by GTR11 » Fri Jan 27, 2023 6:44 pm

OfficialRef wrote:
GTR11 wrote:
OfficialRef wrote:Team has too many trash contracts in Ben (35m), Joe(20m), and patty (MLE)

I didn't think it was possible but Marks might have created a worse roster than last season. At least last season had Harden but now we're stuck with bad contracts on a team thats supposed to compete

What a dumb fuc*.

If you had any clue, it's chain reaction to what Tsai did.

Want to bark on Marks, at least give us all a favor and follow what Lewis say.

What did Tsai do?

Marks gave Patty the extra $ when he opted out. Marks traded Harden for Ben. Marks offered Joe the big contract and had every opportunity to trade him before.

If you're gonna say something stupid at least try to make sense. Otherwise, leave the conversation for the adults little fella.

Learn facts first boy. You clueless and spreading troll posts. Lewis and NI wrote on it in depth. Go educate yourself and spare us from your dumb made up takes.

Patty mMLE and he would've fetched it from several teams. After last year he absolutely deserved it.
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Re: GT: Nets vs Pistons 1/26 7:30pm 

Post#112 » by 3pt_chucker » Fri Jan 27, 2023 6:48 pm

Just looking at other contenders rosters, Brooklyn has arguably the most wasted roster spots and an overload of midget/non-wing players.Even the Warriors who are guard heavy have a bevy of wings on their bench.

Everything starts with Marks. I just fundamentally don't agree with his team building. Even before KD and KAI, he never placed emphasis on wings and always picks undersized Centers. This team has lacked explosiveness during his entire tenure. Zero explosive high flyers drafted or traded for. Passed up on multiple legit 3&D wings in the draft. Traded Bey for Shamet. etc etc.

Yes, good guard play is important but unless he realizes that dynamic wings are a essential component to modern basketball, team is not winning a thing, even with an all time great like KD.

Let's see what he does at the deadline. Won't hold my breath tho. Probably trades for another midget guard so JV can run a 4 guard midget lineup.
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Re: GT: Nets vs Pistons 1/26 7:30pm 

Post#113 » by GTR11 » Fri Jan 27, 2023 6:51 pm

Eatgreenz wrote:
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Eatgreenz wrote:Unplayable? Yea his unplayable if his sharing backcourt with another 6'2 guard like kai. You put him on the mavs his damn near starting. The market loves shooting, its not easy to get 40% shooters

They gave Bertans cash load and yet there's no reports whatsoever they interested in Seth.

Thank you for proving my point.

What point? Your saying if seth hits the open market he would be forced to play in one of those Israel leagues,cuz he so unplayable. Seth shooting makes him an asset alone

The original point about how market is on one way players especially shooters :banghead:

Should I highlight it for you?

And no I'm not saying Seth will be out the league. He will get Patty money from some desperate GM like Pelinka.
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Re: GT: Nets vs Pistons 1/26 7:30pm 

Post#114 » by Eatgreenz » Fri Jan 27, 2023 7:13 pm

GTR11 wrote:
Eatgreenz wrote:
GTR11 wrote:They gave Bertans cash load and yet there's no reports whatsoever they interested in Seth.

Thank you for proving my point.

What point? Your saying if seth hits the open market he would be forced to play in one of those Israel leagues,cuz he so unplayable. Seth shooting makes him an asset alone

The original point about how market is on one way players especially shooters :banghead:

Should I highlight it for you?

And no I'm not saying Seth will be out the league. He will get Patty money from some desperate GM like Pelinka.

Bro you keep talkin about seth like his steve kerr. He can shoot 40% from 3, has mid range game, can drive when needed, and can act as 2nd or 3rd ball handler. His perfect for any team if he is your only bad defender you can cover for him. His a perfect roleplayer for a big playmaker luka,bron,etc.
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Re: GT: Nets vs Pistons 1/26 7:30pm 

Post#115 » by Hello Brooklyn » Fri Jan 27, 2023 7:26 pm

3pt_chucker wrote:Just looking at other contenders rosters, Brooklyn has arguably the most wasted roster spots and an overload of midget/non-wing players.Even the Warriors who are guard heavy have a bevy of wings on their bench.

Everything starts with Marks. I just fundamentally don't agree with his team building. Even before KD and KAI, he never placed emphasis on wings and always picks undersized Centers. This team has lacked explosiveness during his entire tenure. Zero explosive high flyers drafted or traded for. Passed up on multiple legit 3&D wings in the draft. Traded Bey for Shamet. etc etc.

Yes, good guard play is important but unless he realizes that dynamic wings are a essential component to modern basketball, team is not winning a thing, even with an all time great like KD.

Let's see what he does at the deadline. Won't hold my breath tho. Probably trades for another midget guard so JV can run a 4 guard midget lineup.


I don't know man.

Marks found guys like Sumner, Yuta, kept Claxton. Its hard to act like this is really a roster construction problem.

Especially with the Pistons. That team sucks.

Were just not playing the right way. So whos to blame?

The players?

The coach?

It seems like there is no one thing that is the clear answer for our defense collapsing last night. Especially when we played so well vs the Sixers.
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Re: GT: Nets vs Pistons 1/26 7:30pm 

Post#116 » by OfficialRef » Fri Jan 27, 2023 9:56 pm

GTR11 wrote:
OfficialRef wrote:
GTR11 wrote:What a dumb fuc*.

If you had any clue, it's chain reaction to what Tsai did.

Want to bark on Marks, at least give us all a favor and follow what Lewis say.

What did Tsai do?

Marks gave Patty the extra $ when he opted out. Marks traded Harden for Ben. Marks offered Joe the big contract and had every opportunity to trade him before.

If you're gonna say something stupid at least try to make sense. Otherwise, leave the conversation for the adults little fella.

Learn facts first boy. You clueless and spreading troll posts. Lewis and NI wrote on it in depth. Go educate yourself and spare us from your dumb made up takes.

Patty mMLE and he would've fetched it from several teams. After last year he absolutely deserved it.

FO had all the leverage to do what needed to be done, whether that be keeping Harden or trading him elsewhere. I followed the whole saga, nobody forced Marks to do anything. Marks had the choice to trade Harden after Harden decided not to sign the extension and didn't even have to trade for Simmons in the first place. The Nets FO had all the intel and reports on Simmons both physical and mental health, thats on THEM for making the trade and it blowing up. They could have went for Tobias or Thybulle who would both be great on the team right now.

No he didn't deserve the MLE, his production literally decreased every month passing by. Patty has basically been out of the rotation since day 1, how is that not a bad contract mistake by Marks?
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Re: GT: Nets vs Pistons 1/26 7:30pm 

Post#117 » by OfficialRef » Fri Jan 27, 2023 10:00 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:
3pt_chucker wrote:Just looking at other contenders rosters, Brooklyn has arguably the most wasted roster spots and an overload of midget/non-wing players.Even the Warriors who are guard heavy have a bevy of wings on their bench.

Everything starts with Marks. I just fundamentally don't agree with his team building. Even before KD and KAI, he never placed emphasis on wings and always picks undersized Centers. This team has lacked explosiveness during his entire tenure. Zero explosive high flyers drafted or traded for. Passed up on multiple legit 3&D wings in the draft. Traded Bey for Shamet. etc etc.

Yes, good guard play is important but unless he realizes that dynamic wings are a essential component to modern basketball, team is not winning a thing, even with an all time great like KD.

Let's see what he does at the deadline. Won't hold my breath tho. Probably trades for another midget guard so JV can run a 4 guard midget lineup.


I don't know man.

Marks found guys like Sumner, Yuta, kept Claxton. Its hard to act like this is really a roster construction problem.

Especially with the Pistons. That team sucks.

Were just not playing the right way. So whos to blame?

The players?

The coach?

It seems like there is no one thing that is the clear answer for our defense collapsing last night. Especially when we played so well vs the Sixers.

the blame happens when the rest of the starters suck.

Ben Simmons: 35M, 0 points
Joe Harris: 19 M, 7 points

Thats almost 55M on bad contracts, and these guys are starters. Its even worse when you factor Patty who gets paid to not even play and babysit the max contract 6'10 guy who couldn't score on me.
Team has a good top 3, a couple of good off the bench players but no starter caliber players.
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Re: GT: Nets vs Pistons 1/26 7:30pm 

Post#118 » by OfficialRef » Fri Jan 27, 2023 10:07 pm

GTR11 wrote:
CalamityX12 wrote:It's very concerning that we can't win games without Durant


And each loss had its own excuse for it

It screaming our coaches are trash. When people will get through their heads a lot will and can change.

Just look how much difference it made moving from Trash to JV ( who is also horrible ) and how it affected team. We need legit coach who can handle Kyrie.

This is why I'm about to flip on Marks soon. Not getting Ime was/is huge mistake. You just had to kick tires to see what's good.

I mean this guy managed to fix Saltic locker room problems and take them to another level. Yet we care about PR? With all we have going on this team with these players.

Please help me to understand what I'm missing here.

KD? KYRIE and Ben alone should warranted him this gig.

Handle Kyrie? The guy scored 40 points last night.

Udoka isn't fixing Ben scoring 0 points and Joe being a liability on the floor.

Thats 55Mil being wasted on 2 "Starter" level players who are letting the team down.

JV isn't a good coach but he isn't bad either. Problem falls on roster construction
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Re: GT: Nets vs Pistons 1/26 7:30pm 

Post#119 » by Lachiebkn » Sat Jan 28, 2023 12:43 am

With jerami grant rejecting the offer from blazers any chance we could pinch him. Joe harris and picks. I know he’s a free agent but he helps us in a lot of different ways. I’m sure Tsai would happily move us deep into luxury tax.
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Re: GT: Nets vs Pistons 1/26 7:30pm 

Post#120 » by CalamityX12 » Sat Jan 28, 2023 2:03 am

MrDollarBills wrote:
CalamityX12 wrote:Sadiq Bey
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Yep.... just **** kill me yep.....


Everytime he hit a shot i knew you would be pissed :lol:

Damn **** right u knew it!

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