the new new era 2.0 - post deadline discussion

[Netaman]

I definitely think that was a shot at Kyrie too.

Again. I have no problem with Harden wanting to bail. I don't blame him. But he is not an innocent bystander

the part of harden bailing/quitting that he can't say aloud but was noticeable at the time was that he'd lost confidence in his own game. he knew he wasn't what he was in houston anymore. he wasnt finishing at the rim, his 3 ball fell off, and he wasnt getting to the foul line as much. when KD got hurt and kyrie was out the pressure was on him to deliver and couldnt keep the team afloat at all.

i think that's where his urgency to pull the rip cord came from as much as anything. he clearly hated kyrie but i think it was a combo of hating kyrie and also that he was getting exposed. one of his quotes the other day was along the lines of "i was there to play with kd and kyrie and that didnt happen as much as anyone or the organization wanted".

i heard that as he wasnt here to play alone and get exposed for what he wasnt anymore. obviously kd couldnt help his absence but kyrie chose to screw everyone and harden was most effected directly by that.

[CalamityX12]

Dedmon rmto Philly

One less big

[MrDollarBills]

I definitely think that was a shot at Kyrie too.

Again. I have no problem with Harden wanting to bail. I don't blame him. But he is not an innocent bystander

the part of harden bailing/quitting that he can't say aloud but was noticeable at the time was that he'd lost confidence in his own game. he knew he wasn't what he was in houston anymore. he wasnt finishing at the rim, his 3 ball fell off, and he wasnt getting to the foul line as much. when KD got hurt and kyrie was out the pressure was on him to deliver and couldnt keep the team afloat at all.

i think that's where his urgency to pull the rip cord came from as much as anything. he clearly hated kyrie but i think it was a combo of hating kyrie and also that he was getting exposed. one of his quotes the other day was along the lines of "i was there to play with kd and kyrie and that didnt happen as much as anyone or the organization wanted".

i heard that as he wasnt here to play alone and get exposed for what he wasnt anymore. obviously kd couldnt help his absence but kyrie chose to screw everyone and harden was most effected directly by that.

I totally get it. I just wish he didn't quit the way that he did, but he was well within his rights to say screw this after what Kyrie did.

All of it boils back down to Kyrie.

[MrDollarBills]

Dedmon rmto Philly

One less big

Yeah i dunno what he has left in the tank, but that was a big body that we could have used.

Marks better not screw us over with this.

[Decipher]

Dedmon rmto Philly

One less big

Yeah i dunno what he has left in the tank, but that was a big body that we could have used.

Marks better not screw us over with this.

JV wants Simmons to play as a big

[Iverson Armband]

Dedmon rmto Philly

One less big

Yeah i dunno what he has left in the tank, but that was a big body that we could have used.

Marks better not screw us over with this.

JV wants Simmons to play as a big

[Decipher]

Yeah i dunno what he has left in the tank, but that was a big body that we could have used.

Marks better not screw us over with this.

JV wants Simmons to play as a big

It's just fkn weird

As a Sixers fan, you'd know that he's not a 5 & never has been

Then again, JV is now talking about making Bridges our primary ball handler

Tell me you're tanking without telling me you're tanking

[brook]

Can I suggest Goga Bitadze for the 15th spot? He was released by the Pacers. He's almost 24 years so still young and shows some flashes during the years.

He must have cleared waivers by now (unless the weekend doesn't count). If he's not claimed, he's worth a look, but honestly I don't expect him or anybody else getting much PT.

He's already signed a two-year deal with the Orlando Magic...

[MrDollarBills]

JV wants Simmons to play as a big

It's just fkn weird

As a Sixers fan, you'd know that he's not a 5 & never has been

Then again, JV is now talking about making Bridges our primary ball handler

Tell me you're tanking without telling me you're tanking

Simmons needs to be a playmaker on offense. He physically can't do what Claxton does.

Ah this is getting messy in a hurry. I'm starting not to care.

[NetsWorld]

It's just fkn weird

As a Sixers fan, you'd know that he's not a 5 & never has been

Then again, JV is now talking about making Bridges our primary ball handler

Tell me you're tanking without telling me you're tanking

Simmons needs to be a playmaker on offense. He physically can't do what Claxton does.

Ah this is getting messy in a hurry. I'm starting not to care.

Problem is Ben has no confidence and looks checked out. There is always roster dysfunction with our team, it's weird.

[TheNetsFan]

It's just fkn weird

As a Sixers fan, you'd know that he's not a 5 & never has been

Then again, JV is now talking about making Bridges our primary ball handler

Tell me you're tanking without telling me you're tanking

Simmons needs to be a playmaker on offense. He physically can't do what Claxton does.

Ah this is getting messy in a hurry. I'm starting not to care.

Problem is Ben has no confidence and looks checked out. There is always roster dysfunction with our team, it's weird.

But is being checked out at least in part stem from how he's been used? He hasn't been asked to initiate offense all year. It's been dribble up, hand the ball off to KD/Kyrie/Cam/Spencer and go set some screens.

[NetsWorld]

Simmons needs to be a playmaker on offense. He physically can't do what Claxton does.

Ah this is getting messy in a hurry. I'm starting not to care.

Problem is Ben has no confidence and looks checked out. There is always roster dysfunction with our team, it's weird.

But is being checked out at least in part stem from how he's been used? He hasn't been asked to initiate offense all year. It's been dribble up, hand the ball off to KD/Kyrie/Cam/Spencer and go set some screens.

Don't know. Maybe have Dinwiddie come off the bench with DFS and Cam start. You still have defense in Bridges/Clax to start and Ben. Only time will tell, but I think Vaughn is tired of him.

[Shark]

Simmons needs to be a playmaker on offense. He physically can't do what Claxton does.

Ah this is getting messy in a hurry. I'm starting not to care.

Problem is Ben has no confidence and looks checked out. There is always roster dysfunction with our team, it's weird.

But is being checked out at least in part stem from how he's been used? He hasn't been asked to initiate offense all year. It's been dribble up, hand the ball off to KD/Kyrie/Cam/Spencer and go set some screens.

I feel like that's a big part of it. His best game this season came when we actually ran the offense through him.

Maybe they're worried about Ben's health if they use him more. Maybe he's still a bit too hesitant on the ball. But playing him at the 5 without the ball in his hands isn't going to do anything to build him up.

[MrDollarBills]

Simmons needs to be a playmaker on offense. He physically can't do what Claxton does.

Ah this is getting messy in a hurry. I'm starting not to care.

Problem is Ben has no confidence and looks checked out. There is always roster dysfunction with our team, it's weird.

But is being checked out at least in part stem from how he's been used? He hasn't been asked to initiate offense all year. It's been dribble up, hand the ball off to KD/Kyrie/Cam/Spencer and go set some screens.

He said to the media that he doesn't know what his role is. That's on Vaughn. Lay out what he's supposed to do, don't have him sitting there on a bike looking out of it.

It's always something. Always. I'm starting to think that Harden was right.

[CalamityX12]

Ben has legit Basket rim fears... his unwillingness to attack the rim hurts him and the team.

No way the Claxtons should be waiting for the ball when he sees Ben going in for the rim without obstruction...

[MrDollarBills]

And now Yuta got snubbed from the 3 point contest. I have zero reason to watch all star weekend now, we have no representation.

It's crazy how we went from winning 12 in a row to now nothing to even look forward to.

[NetsJets]

I was told I was supposed to be happy to be going from relevancy and title contention to play in fodder.

[Hello Brooklyn]

And now Yuta got snubbed from the 3 point contest. I have zero reason to watch all star weekend now, we have no representation.

It's crazy how we went from winning 12 in a row to now nothing to even look forward to.

He doesn't shoot enough 3s to qualify.

We have to be realistic.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Honestly I'm getting more ambivalent with this team.

We have WAY too many good role players that need minutes. I think Marks messed up majorly by not having a firesale at the deadline.

Even if just for 2nds we could have traded O'Neal, Curry, Mills, etc.

I wouldn't even mind flipping Cam Johnson for some value either. Hes about to be a FA and will make too much money.

The team as currently constructed has just too many 3 and D guys with no creators.

I would way rather just play Cam and Simmons a ton of minutes and let them suck and learn from there mistakes. But help them get better.

Now it feels like we can't because we have to play all these role players. It makes no sense.

After Cam scored 40 in a row three times the main priority should have been on him. Not all this other nonsense.

[MrDollarBills]

Honestly I'm getting more ambivalent with this team.

We have WAY too many good role players that need minutes. I think Marks messed up majorly by not having a firesale at the deadline.

Even if just for 2nds we could have traded O'Neal, Curry, Mills, etc.

I wouldn't even mind flipping Cam Johnson for some value either. Hes about to be a FA and will make too much money.

The team as currently constructed has just too many 3 and D guys with no creators.

I would way rather just play Cam and Simmons a ton of minutes and let them suck and learn from there mistakes. But help them get better.

Now it feels like we can't because we have to play all these role players. It makes no sense.

After Cam scored 40 in a row three times the main priority should have been on him. Not all this other nonsense.

Cam showed us in the Bulls game why he couldn't be trusted yet with a permanent green light. His shot selection was god awful. He has to work on it.

I'll be honest with you. there is no fix for this. This team was primed to make a run at the championship and Kyrie blew it all to hell.

The haul Marks got back was fantastic. However, the team now needs a reliable star that can score to make it all work. Cam is a high upside talent but he's not reliable in terms of his shot selection and maturity. Putting all that weight on him to be the guy probably doesn't end well either.

The Nets are screwed. No sense in investing anything else into this season. It's a waste of time.