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Re: GT: Nets @ Boston Celtics- 7:30- 3-3-23 

Post#101 » by NetsJets » Sat Mar 4, 2023 4:15 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:
NetsJets wrote:That Ben is gone forever. Time to move on. He’s a sunk cost at this point. All he wants to do is wear nice clothes on the sideline, and enjoy the lifestyle basketball provides him, without actually wanting to play basketball.


You guys act like there has never been a player who struggled to come back from injury in the history of the NBA.

It has been less than a year. Give him a little time.

His issue is mental, and at this point I don’t think he’ll ever get over it.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Boston Celtics- 7:30- 3-3-23 

Post#102 » by Eatgreenz » Sat Mar 4, 2023 4:58 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:
NetsJets wrote:That Ben is gone forever. Time to move on. He’s a sunk cost at this point. All he wants to do is wear nice clothes on the sideline, and enjoy the lifestyle basketball provides him, without actually wanting to play basketball.


You guys act like there has never been a player who struggled to come back from injury in the history of the NBA.

It has been less than a year. Give him a little time.

You woulda sworn Ben has been playing like this for 5 straight yrs. The way some ppl talk. Brook lopez literally looked done last year with a back injury. This yr he looks like normal brook. Michael porter jr has talked how he knows what ben is going through since his dealt with back injuries since college. How it takes time for the person to get his explosiveness back
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Re: GT: Nets @ Boston Celtics- 7:30- 3-3-23 

Post#103 » by Eatgreenz » Sat Mar 4, 2023 5:01 pm

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Hello Brooklyn wrote:
NetsJets wrote:That Ben is gone forever. Time to move on. He’s a sunk cost at this point. All he wants to do is wear nice clothes on the sideline, and enjoy the lifestyle basketball provides him, without actually wanting to play basketball.


You guys act like there has never been a player who struggled to come back from injury in the history of the NBA.

It has been less than a year. Give him a little time.

His issue is mental, and at this point I don’t think he’ll ever get over it.

Does he still need to be way more aggressive of course. At the same time its hard finish at the basket when you can barely jump off the ground, especially when your used throwing tomahawks down with ease. It would affect your ability to be confident in attacking the rim
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Re: GT: Nets @ Boston Celtics- 7:30- 3-3-23 

Post#104 » by NetsJets » Sat Mar 4, 2023 5:12 pm

Eatgreenz wrote:
NetsJets wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:
You guys act like there has never been a player who struggled to come back from injury in the history of the NBA.

It has been less than a year. Give him a little time.

His issue is mental, and at this point I don’t think he’ll ever get over it.

Does he still need to be way more aggressive of course. At the same time its hard finish at the basket when you can barely jump off the ground, especially when your used throwing tomahawks down with ease. It would affect your ability to be confident in attacking the rim

It’s not his back it’s his head. For example Dwight Howard averaged 18 a game with the same injury.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Boston Celtics- 7:30- 3-3-23 

Post#105 » by Eatgreenz » Sat Mar 4, 2023 5:44 pm

NetsJets wrote:
Eatgreenz wrote:
NetsJets wrote:His issue is mental, and at this point I don’t think he’ll ever get over it.

Does he still need to be way more aggressive of course. At the same time its hard finish at the basket when you can barely jump off the ground, especially when your used throwing tomahawks down with ease. It would affect your ability to be confident in attacking the rim

It’s not his back it’s his head. For example Dwight Howard averaged 18 a game with the same injury.

Remember there was that 5 game stretch he was getting 20pts, triple doubles. Then got that knee sorenss missed games that the last we saw of that. Just want him to get healthy before we say his totally done.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Boston Celtics- 7:30- 3-3-23 

Post#106 » by Eatgreenz » Sat Mar 4, 2023 5:53 pm

The Culture Coming Back. Nets Will Be Back Fellas. And Mikal Better Retire A Net
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Re: GT: Nets @ Boston Celtics- 7:30- 3-3-23 

Post#107 » by Paradise » Sat Mar 4, 2023 5:56 pm

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Hello Brooklyn wrote:
Eatgreenz wrote:The craziest part we dont even have to make any major trades. If we can get Philly ben, ben with his elite athleticism back. We can compete with any team in the east next year.


I'm not ready to give up on Simmons either.

Everyone is acting like he just didn't have a back injury. Lets give him more time to recover before we decide hes cooked.


I agree and it's not like there are many options with him. I think confidence is a big thing with him. I think that impacted Bridges a bit too. I think being around guys like you have now, it will help. Bridges makes everything fun and the team will come to love to play together. Probably been a while since you've had that.

Seems like Bridges started a lot of this pregame type stuff...had a lot of handshakes with everyone. KD doesn't look too excited.

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Because deep down, KD didn’t want to leave Brooklyn. He will be far more invested next season I’m sure but he’s made it known, it wasn’t planned for him to get traded on his end and he wanted to stay.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Boston Celtics- 7:30- 3-3-23 

Post#108 » by Paradise » Sat Mar 4, 2023 5:59 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:
Eatgreenz wrote:The craziest part we dont even have to make any major trades. If we can get Philly ben, ben with his elite athleticism back. We can compete with any team in the east next year.


I'm not ready to give up on Simmons either.

Everyone is acting like he just didn't have a back injury. Lets give him more time to recover before we decide hes cooked.

I’m starting to wonder if just keeping him might unlock him. He could be already thinking he’s a goner and reassuring him of a future here might be the boost he needs.
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Post#109 » by NetsJets » Sat Mar 4, 2023 6:02 pm

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NetsJets wrote:
Eatgreenz wrote:Does he still need to be way more aggressive of course. At the same time its hard finish at the basket when you can barely jump off the ground, especially when your used throwing tomahawks down with ease. It would affect your ability to be confident in attacking the rim

It’s not his back it’s his head. For example Dwight Howard averaged 18 a game with the same injury.

Remember there was that 5 game stretch he was getting 20pts, triple doubles. Then got that knee sorenss missed games that the last we saw of that. Just want him to get healthy before we say his totally done.

Again it is mental. He is avoiding to play. But keep hoping that he returns to the old Ben.
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Post#110 » by NetsJets » Sat Mar 4, 2023 6:05 pm

Guys like Pritchard, Grant Willams and Horford were giving us hell during last years playoffs, last night they were bad. Funny how that works.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Boston Celtics- 7:30- 3-3-23 

Post#111 » by Marvin Martian » Sat Mar 4, 2023 6:28 pm

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Tha King wrote:More continuity, 'solid starter' Ben Simmons, and further growth from Claxton is far better than using draft picks and more for empty calories stars like LaVine and Beal.


:lol: If Lavine and Beal are empty calories then Simmons is poison. Dude is garbage. PHI specifically built their team around him
and he was still terrible. You are overestimating this team. In order for this team to be taken seriously Simmons needs to be better than he ever was

Also Bridges is not a prospect. He is 26 entering his prime. He needs help now. Those draft picks will not fit the timeline. And as long he is here, the Nets cannot fully tank.

Philly never built a team around Ben, it was always a weird fit for his skill set. The team we have now is perfect for philly Ben he would excell here. Ben has been a winning player for his whole NBA career unlike lavine n Beal. Those 2 arent floor raisers like a healthy Ben


No. PHI was perfect for Ben because they gave him shooters and Embiid, who could not only stretch the floor but also roll to the rim. This allowed Ben to not only dominate the ball but also have no pressure to shoot 3s. Plus Embiid can protect the paint so Ben wouldn't have to guard Cs and he can gamble on steals. And yet when they gave him all the tools he needed, he does this:



How do you expect Simmons to succeed here with less tools than he had in PHI?
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Re: GT: Nets @ Boston Celtics- 7:30- 3-3-23 

Post#112 » by bwgood77 » Sat Mar 4, 2023 6:35 pm

Paradise wrote:Because deep down, KD didn’t want to leave Brooklyn. He will be far more invested next season I’m sure but he’s made it known, it wasn’t planned for him to get traded on his end and he wanted to stay.


Is this a joke or if serious, why did he ask for a trade then?
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Re: GT: Nets @ Boston Celtics- 7:30- 3-3-23 

Post#113 » by Tha King » Sat Mar 4, 2023 7:14 pm

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Hello Brooklyn wrote:
Eatgreenz wrote:The craziest part we dont even have to make any major trades. If we can get Philly ben, ben with his elite athleticism back. We can compete with any team in the east next year.


I'm not ready to give up on Simmons either.

Everyone is acting like he just didn't have a back injury. Lets give him more time to recover before we decide hes cooked.

I’m starting to wonder if just keeping him might unlock him. He could be already thinking he’s a goner and reassuring him of a future here might be the boost he needs.

the biggest issue with Simmons has been athletically imo...he clearly looks limited there.

offseason back surgery, no offseason to work out, didn't play last year, skillset based around athleticism in the first place, etc. Just have to hope a full offseason to recover and work out gets him closer to some of what he was.
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Post#114 » by Paradise » Sat Mar 4, 2023 8:15 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
Paradise wrote:Because deep down, KD didn’t want to leave Brooklyn. He will be far more invested next season I’m sure but he’s made it known, it wasn’t planned for him to get traded on his end and he wanted to stay.


Is this a joke or if serious, why did he ask for a trade then?

No joke. Listen to his podcast early this week.

Kevin Durant’s last two NBA stops — Golden State and Oklahoma City — ended in ugly breakups and highly publicized exits. The Nets, he said, will be different.

When Durant picked Brooklyn last offseason, he signed a four-year, $164 million contract that has an opt-out after the third season. That could let him go back onto the free-agent market in 2022-23. Considering he missed this season following Achilles surgery, that could cut the Nets’ window of contention to just two years.

But Durant went on The Player Tribune’s “Text Message Talk Show” on Thursday, and said he plans to make Brooklyn the final stop of his surefire Hall of Fame career.

“As of today, this second, yes…” Durant texted on the show.



It was because of the Kyrie situation and the fact, Ben Simmons is unreliable. He openly admitted he’s glad the Nets got assets in return. He’s said multiple times prior he wanted to retire here. His “emotions” during the Phoenix about Brooklyn was real. He picked #7 because it’s a number of completion. He knows he is getting older and it’s championship or bust.

The Nets wanted to rebuild around him as a solo star and he didn’t want that and he wasn’t waiting until the summer to add another star. The Nets and KD had this conversation before during the summer. Our FO messed it up not dealing with Kyrie correct.
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Post#115 » by 3pt_chucker » Sat Mar 4, 2023 9:09 pm

Finally got to watch the game at was a great win. My biggest takeaway was that for the first time post trade JV leaned into the strength of the roster: Multiple 3&D wings that can defend, switch onto bigs, shoot 3's and handle and pass if needed.

Once the Nets went 1 guard only (Spence or Din) we saw a massive difference. The ability to switch whatever and still have length, really bothered the Celtics defensively. Then on the other end, Nets attacked their bigs with Din/Bridges/Johnson and had 3pt shooting with Royce and DFS. That's the recipe for success against the Celtics. Obviously it helped that Brogdan and TImelord were hurt and Tatum was putrid from 3.

Gotta give JV props but I hope it wasn't a one game thing and the Nets keep a similar rotation next few games. I'd like to see Yuta take Joe Harris mins when he's healthy. Ben fits this style too but just not sure he can be trusted atp.
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Post#116 » by NetsJets » Sat Mar 4, 2023 9:09 pm

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Post#117 » by 3pt_chucker » Sat Mar 4, 2023 9:20 pm

NetsJets wrote:Smh

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Last time he tweeted something like this they went on a losing streak :noway:

Kind of annoying the way he operates tbh
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Post#118 » by Paradise » Sat Mar 4, 2023 9:25 pm

NetsJets wrote:Smh

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I wish someone would please tell him to shut the **** up unless he’s going to hold a real press conference and speak to media the same way he expects his players and FO to do the same.

He’s the last person to speak. His wife has more sense than him.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Boston Celtics- 7:30- 3-3-23 

Post#119 » by Hello Brooklyn » Sat Mar 4, 2023 9:42 pm

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Hello Brooklyn wrote:
I'm not ready to give up on Simmons either.

Everyone is acting like he just didn't have a back injury. Lets give him more time to recover before we decide hes cooked.

I’m starting to wonder if just keeping him might unlock him. He could be already thinking he’s a goner and reassuring him of a future here might be the boost he needs.

the biggest issue with Simmons has been athletically imo...he clearly looks limited there.

offseason back surgery, no offseason to work out, didn't play last year, skillset based around athleticism in the first place, etc. Just have to hope a full offseason to recover and work out gets him closer to some of what he was.


Yes. People keep acting like its all some mental block.

How many times have we seen him drive to the rim and get no lift?

Its clear hes physically compromised.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Boston Celtics- 7:30- 3-3-23 

Post#120 » by Hello Brooklyn » Sat Mar 4, 2023 9:44 pm

NetsJets wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:
NetsJets wrote:That Ben is gone forever. Time to move on. He’s a sunk cost at this point. All he wants to do is wear nice clothes on the sideline, and enjoy the lifestyle basketball provides him, without actually wanting to play basketball.


You guys act like there has never been a player who struggled to come back from injury in the history of the NBA.

It has been less than a year. Give him a little time.

His issue is mental, and at this point I don’t think he’ll ever get over it.


You are delusional if you think this is same guy he was before physically.

He can't move the way he used to.

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