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Post#101 » by Jersey Generals » Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:41 pm

Preludepunk27 wrote:Imagine this pipe dream...We land #2, take Turner and still somehow get Lebron. Lebron honestly can play the 4 just fine, but think about that....4 players in your starting 5 who can play the point?


Three guys with below average shooting, and a fourth with just average. Awesome, sign me up. We could trade for Bargnani and he could be our three point shooter.


Coach for the other team: Okay, team, just clog the lane, let them shoot. If they win, so be it, but they won't, because they can't shoot. Ready, break!


:D Just pulling your leg, dude, but you get the point: a team needs shooters.
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Post#102 » by Preludepunk27 » Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:51 am

Yeah you got a point there. Honestly, Turner's mid-range game is automatic, but Lee and Harris also need to develop more consistency. Lebron improves ever year, but his shot selection annoys the hell out of me sometimes (no that doesn't deter me from him obviously). I'm sorry though, when Lebron gets the ball at the top of the key with 10 seconds on the clock and takes 2 dancy dribble and pulls up for 3, it bothers the hell out of me lol.

In this offense though, Brook would average 35 ppg because everyone will collapse on the driver leaving an alley oop for Brook as the only option lol.
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Post#103 » by Preludepunk27 » Wed Apr 21, 2010 2:24 pm

I know I'm beating a dead horse hear too, but I'm telling you Patrick Patterson is the best big man available in the 1st round for this team. He is a more athletic David West that has range out to the 3 point line and is the player outside of Wall and Turner that has any above average leadership qualities in the lottery. We need to figure out a way to get him too.
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Post#104 » by NetsForce » Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:12 pm

I really can't see Patterson scoring around the basket that effectively... He strikes me as more of a energy player than anything else I'm also pretty sure he's an inch or two smaller than his listed 6-9''
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Post#105 » by Preludepunk27 » Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:29 pm

We'll have to agree to disagree then. He's been touted since his school by scouts for his soft touch around the basket. He proved is consistently his freshman and sophomore year. This past season because of Cousins, they asked him to play differently and that is where he showed his ability to excel in the mid-range game. I'm telling you he's an athletic David West.

I'll try to find a picture of David West next to Lebron too...NOR lies about his height as well but he is clearly an above average 4. Patterson has a 7' wingspan too.
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Post#106 » by NetsForce » Fri Apr 23, 2010 8:06 pm

I didn't know that about his wingspan, that's encouraging as is the fact that Patterson has a high motor but... I still see him as more of a face-up four.
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Post#107 » by BasketBrain » Sat Apr 24, 2010 8:04 pm

If we get John Wall then we need to trade Devin. The two point guards at the same time experiment almost always fails. If we get Turner then trade Courtney because I was never a fan of his.
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Post#108 » by BasketBrain » Sun Apr 25, 2010 2:16 pm

The first two picks are pretty much obvious who the Nets will take if they get one of the top two, but what if worst case scenario they get the third or fourth pick. Would it be insane to believe that perhaps there is a chance that Prokhorov might have a say on who to draft and would probably influence Thorn to select a highly touted international prospect coming out this year, like Donatas Motiejunas or Jan Vesely? With a third or fourth pick, don't laugh, it could happen...
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Post#109 » by Jersey Generals » Sun Apr 25, 2010 5:42 pm

I think it is insane, yes. I think Motiejunas could be had somewhere in the 8-18 range, so it would be stupid for Prokhorov to just insist on reaching like that. Thorn would most deff. be able to persuade him to trade down and gather more assets and still be able to pick Motijunas.
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Post#110 » by NetsForce » Sun Apr 25, 2010 6:24 pm

My understanding is that Motiejunas is an even worse rebounder than Bargnani... I do not want him at all and would not feel safe picking him in the top 14.

Also for comparisons sake the guy needs as much work physically as Yi did his rookie year.
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Post#111 » by vincecarter4pres » Sun Apr 25, 2010 7:07 pm

Yeah, there is a reason that his stay as a high lotto pick on mocks was short stayed.

I would say with the third pick it is highly likely to be Cousins.

I could see us working a trade with the 4th pick though.
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Post#112 » by deviljets7 » Sun Apr 25, 2010 7:29 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:Yeah, there is a reason that his stay as a high lotto pick on mocks was short stayed.

I would say with the third pick it is highly likely to be Cousins.

I could see us working a trade with the 4th pick though.


Agreed.

Also, considering how much hype Cousins has been getting, I wonder just how much it would take to move from 3 to 2. Clearly Turner's the better prospect (and a better fit for us), but Cousins is getting a lot of buzz lately and we know how most teams feel about trading small for big.
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Post#113 » by vincecarter4pres » Sun Apr 25, 2010 7:49 pm

That's an interesting point. I mean it didn't take too much for Memphis to move up to nab Mayo, funny part was that Mayo would have been the better fit in Minny though.
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Post#114 » by BasketBrain » Sun Apr 25, 2010 9:44 pm

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vincecarter4pres wrote:Yeah, there is a reason that his stay as a high lotto pick on mocks was short stayed.

I would say with the third pick it is highly likely to be Cousins.

I could see us working a trade with the 4th pick though.


Agreed.

Also, considering how much hype Cousins has been getting, I wonder just how much it would take to move from 3 to 2. Clearly Turner's the better prospect (and a better fit for us), but Cousins is getting a lot of buzz lately and we know how most teams feel about trading small for big.


Cousins is getting alot of hype lately and I wouldn't be surprised if the Nets nab him with the third or fourth pick. I really feel we need to upgrade the 2 and 4 position this upcoming season.
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Post#115 » by NetsForce » Sun Apr 25, 2010 10:42 pm

My hope if the Nets fall to the 3rd pick is that whoever has the second pick is so enamored with the big-over-small idea that they pick Cousins leaving Turner for the nets :=)
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Post#116 » by deviljets7 » Mon Apr 26, 2010 4:41 am

NetsForce wrote:My hope if the Nets fall to the 3rd pick is that whoever has the second pick is so enamored with the big-over-small idea that they pick Cousins leaving Turner for the nets :=)


Of course that would be the ideal scenario, but I'm not sure if that's as likely. The gap is closing enough that I'm thinking it might be possible to swap picks 3 and 2 without having to give up anything too essential. IE: depending on the team, I think CDR and the DAL pick could be enough to get it done. Considering the depth we have and the questions I have about Cousins with Brook, that's a tiny price to pay.
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Post#117 » by vincecarter4pres » Mon Apr 26, 2010 6:56 pm

Jan Vesely is not entering the draft...
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Post#118 » by demens » Mon Apr 26, 2010 7:45 pm

Cousins at #2 over Turner is very likely scenario depending on who gets the pick. That is the only way getting the 3rd pick would not be the end of the world.
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Post#119 » by vincecarter4pres » Mon Apr 26, 2010 8:06 pm

^^I think depending on who got the #2 overall it's realistic. Cousins has the potential to go #2.
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Post#120 » by BasketBrain » Mon Apr 26, 2010 9:54 pm

I honestly would pick Evan Turner for our team for multiple reasons. I just dont think that John Wall will be a significant upgrade over Devin. Sure, he might end up being a better player then Dev, but will he be THAT much better then him? I think not. Besides, Devin has already proven he can win and lead a team, just look at what he did with the Mavs when healthy. We already have a talented young point guard who should be going into his prime soon, why start over when that popsition is already solidified with one of the top point guards in the league when healthy?

Evan is the way to go. I'm sure of it. He would be a significant upgrade over Courtney "my heart is still with Orlando" Lee. We are talking about a guy who is ready to play in the league right now(Not to take anything away from Wall, he is ready to play but point guards always have a longer learning curve), who has shown unbelievable heart and leadership skills in college. Our backcourt would be set for years to come with Devin and Evan(just noticed their names rhyme, lol).
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