Early discussion on the 2023 offseason

[Tha King]

I'd sign and trade CamJ to Pistons but we NEED a 1st round pick with little to no protections preferably their 2024 first. They have nothing else to offer. Their not trading Duran or any of their young guys. Burks or Stewart and a 1st for Cam J

thing is, looking at their roster they can easily offer 30m to CJ and still be alright because their core is all rookie scale. By the time they have to start extensions, Cam would have one or two years left on his deal (with a rising cap).

So not sure they'd offer anything interesting in a S&T

[Papi_swav]

I'd sign and trade CamJ to Pistons but we NEED a 1st round pick with little to no protections preferably their 2024 first. They have nothing else to offer. Their not trading Duran or any of their young guys. Burks or Stewart and a 1st for Cam J

i would take a TPE and next year's 1 with like top 3 protection.

the knicks own their pick top 14 protected i think, so the nets would own their pick #4-14. otherwise it punts to a future draft with top 3 protection until it conveys.

the TPE would give nets another 12m+ trade exception.

yea as long as we get a first, they have nothing else to offer us.

[vincecarter4pres]

I'd sign and trade CamJ to Pistons but we NEED a 1st round pick with little to no protections preferably their 2024 first. They have nothing else to offer. Their not trading Duran or any of their young guys. Burks or Stewart and a 1st for Cam J

i would take a TPE and next year's 1 with like top 3 protection.

the knicks own their pick top 14 protected i think, so the nets would own their pick #4-14. otherwise it punts to a future draft with top 3 protection until it conveys.

the TPE would give nets another 12m+ trade exception.

I think this is dreaming at its finest.

No way are we getting a lightly protected 1st for Cam. Maybe like top 7 protected and it eventually turns to two 2nd’s if it doesn’t convey.

[vincecarter4pres]

I think if we lose Cam though S&T you have to hope a surprise playoff team near the cap has mutual interest in him, and sends an expiring contract and top 10 protected first, something like that.

[Netaman]

I'd sign and trade CamJ to Pistons but we NEED a 1st round pick with little to no protections preferably their 2024 first. They have nothing else to offer. Their not trading Duran or any of their young guys. Burks or Stewart and a 1st for Cam J

i would take a TPE and next year's 1 with like top 3 protection.

the knicks own their pick top 14 protected i think, so the nets would own their pick #4-14. otherwise it punts to a future draft with top 3 protection until it conveys.

the TPE would give nets another 12m+ trade exception.

I think this is dreaming at its finest.

No way are we getting a lightly protected 1st for Cam. Maybe like top 7 protected and it eventually turns to two 2nd’s if it doesn’t convey.

so 4 extra slots of protection is a dream?

im fine with top 7, it's a bit silly next year to just own a pick if it's 7-14 since that makes the pick pretty unlikely to convey in such a tight goldilocks zone but id take a top 7 protected pick so long as it keeps rolling back until it conveys (no seconds).

if they are preparing to pay 100m+ to cam because he's monty's guy i think a protected FRP is fair, it's just tricky to value since they already conditionally dealt the 2024 to nyk.

[Netaman]

I think if we lose Cam though S&T you have to hope a surprise playoff team near the cap has mutual interest in him, and sends an expiring contract and top 10 protected first, something like that.

disagree, i think you hope his former coach desperately wants him because he's trying to jump start a culture and if he's willing to pay him 100m he probably is willing to send a better pick vs risking not getting him (and the nets get a TPE).

most offer sheets get signed when there's an acrimonious negotiation - like ayton last year. prior to him signing the offer sheet there were all kinds of myles turner + FRP rumors. unlike the ayton situation cam seems to like it here and the nets have made it clear they want to bring him back.

the second he signs an offer sheet he/detroit lose control of where he goes so i think a s&t is in the interest of all sides. if an offer sheet gets signed regardless of however crazy the money seems most of the time they get matched because teams dont like losing assets for literal nothing. i actually would hope the nets do walk if the number is crazy but if that's where they find themselves they may not.

[Papi_swav]

i would take a TPE and next year's 1 with like top 3 protection.

the knicks own their pick top 14 protected i think, so the nets would own their pick #4-14. otherwise it punts to a future draft with top 3 protection until it conveys.

the TPE would give nets another 12m+ trade exception.

I think this is dreaming at its finest.

No way are we getting a lightly protected 1st for Cam. Maybe like top 7 protected and it eventually turns to two 2nd’s if it doesn’t convey.

so 4 extra slots of protection is a dream?

im fine with top 7, it's a bit silly next year to just own a pick if it's 7-14 since that makes the pick pretty unlikely to convey in such a tight goldilocks zone but id take a top 7 protected pick so long as it keeps rolling back until it conveys (no seconds).

if they are preparing to pay 100m+ to cam because he's monty's guy i think a protected FRP is fair, it's just tricky to value since they already conditionally dealt the 2024 to nyk.

@ vince, I don't see how that's dreaming. Cam J is Montys guy and the Pistons have nothing to offer the Nets, they're not giving up any of their young guys and we definitely don't want Bogs, Bagley or Wisemen. The only thing they have that would entice us is picks.

The Pistons owe the Knicks a pick from pick 19-30. So they can still trade us a FRP from 4-18 or something like that. I doubt Pistons will be picking at #19 or up next year even if they sign Cam J so that pick should convey to us. And I don't want no crappy second round picks either. The Pistons and Monty seem dead set on Cam J so they're going to have to pay up, we have the leverage here because we can match anything. So if they don't want us to match give up that pick, simple.

[Netaman]

this strikes me as bs either outright, or the cavs leaking something they are happy to deny but meant to generate conversations with teams looking to trade for mitchell.

randomly the heat are much better fit as a trade partner with cleveland for mitchell than lillard. herro and martin would help the cavs add the shooting they need and they can match the 3 FRP's cleveland gave up for mitchell last year (one of them being jaquez, who i think would be a good fit on cleveland's roster). if the heat are willing to roll the dice on dame entering a33 i cant see them being afraid of getting mitchell extended in 2 years.

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[Tha King]

You give everything pick for Garland. Can't believe the Cavs would trade him or Mobley though.

[Netaman]

You give everything pick for Garland. Can't believe the Cavs would trade him or Mobley though.

yeah i dont buy it at all. if it's not just a totally made up thing, i think clevelands only reason for leaking that would be to see what the market is for star lead guards not named donovan mitchell since it's pretty well known mitchell's preference is NY.

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[vincecarter4pres]

Man, Garland or Mitchell would be so sick.

Something along the lines of either and Allen for a ton of picks, Cam T, Clax, Harris and Dinwiddie.

[Netaman]

just when it seems like the phoenix draft picks couldn't get more valuable....

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[CalamityX12]

Lol omg please!!! Haha

[Netaman]

you hate to see stuff like this happen to philly.

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[MGrand15]

you hate to see stuff like this happen to philly.

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It's actually impressive that we put together a big 3 of the biggest superstar losers EVER. Then we replaced 1 of them with Ben Simmons

[KL78192020]

The Sixers thought they won that trade. lol there are no winners, at least the Nets got some draft picks.

[Shark]

So in the end we just had 3 guys that just didn't care about winning a championship. Glad that's all behind us now.

[Tha King]

the team cuold have some incredibly valuable picks in the next few years

[JoseRizal]

Big 3 primadonnas...