Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season

[DarkXaero]

Y'all naive if you think that Beal is staying in DC long-term. He has another season there max, before realizing that the Wizards situation is **** and can't be salvaged. He signed a short extension for a reason too. Whether its here or somewhere else, he'll end up playing for another team. And there aren't 20 teams out there with better packages/situation, and that doesn't matter anyway. Beal holds the leverage and if he says that "I'll only re-sign with this list of teams", only those teams will go after him. There's a reason why AD ended up with the Lakers.

This.

We see it every time and yet every time it happens again, people are in complete denial, it truly baffles me.

And just like you said, doesn't mean he winds up here, but how fans think he'll be good in Washington is beyond me.

Kyrie didn’t want to go to Boston. Guess where he was sent? Boston.

Kawhi didn’t want to go to Toronto. He wanted LA. Guess where he ended up? Toronto.

Chris Paul wanted to play with Kobe in LA. Where was he sent? To the Clippers.

Paul George wanted to go to LA because he wanted to be close to his mom. Where was he sent? Oklahoma City.

Can you explain this?

Let's make some corrections since you seem to misrepresent information a lot.

Kyrie was happy going to Boston. https://celticswire.usatoday.com/2019/05/18/boston-was-kyrie-irvings-preferred-destination-in-2017-trade-request/

Kawhi wanted to go to LA, won a championship in Toronto, YET still left the champions for an unproven LA team, proving to be a rental. Obviously Toronto still does that trade 10/10 times in hindsight, but their goal was to have him stay for years to come.

Chris Paul was happy going to the Clippers, and the Lakers trade was infamously veto'd by NBA, after being accepted by then New Orleans GM.

Paul George wanted to go to LA but Lakers never made a serious offer to Indiana as they believed he was going to sign with them in free agency. Paul George surprised everyone when he committed to OKC, but then requested a trade out of there a year later anyway (to a LA team).

[vincecarter4pres]

Y'all naive if you think that Beal is staying in DC long-term. He has another season there max, before realizing that the Wizards situation is **** and can't be salvaged. He signed a short extension for a reason too. Whether its here or somewhere else, he'll end up playing for another team. And there aren't 20 teams out there with better packages/situation, and that doesn't matter anyway. Beal holds the leverage and if he says that "I'll only re-sign with this list of teams", only those teams will go after him. There's a reason why AD ended up with the Lakers.

This.

We see it every time and yet every time it happens again, people are in complete denial, it truly baffles me.

And just like you said, doesn't mean he winds up here, but how fans think he'll be good in Washington is beyond me.

Kyrie didn’t want to go to Boston. Guess where he was sent? Boston.

Kawhi didn’t want to go to Toronto. He wanted LA. Guess where he ended up? Toronto.

Chris Paul wanted to play with Kobe in LA. Where was he sent? To the Clippers.

Paul George wanted to go to LA because he wanted to be close to his mom. Where was he sent? Oklahoma City.

Can you explain this?

Sure can! Context is always necessary.

Kyrie legit signed off on Boston, but also, my point is proven he left. They traded for him anyway because Ainge had a treasure trove of additional assets and players and had missed on a few guys cause he got greedy.

Chris Paul preferred the Lakers, but Clips were most definitely high on his short list. Lakers and Hornets completely botched the CP3 deal and forced Stern's hand on top of this.

Kawhi had severely burned his bridge in San An. They chose to literally spite him and take a horrible deal for them over trading him to any team on his short list who also had favorable assets for a total Spurs blow up. Pop didn't want to coach a lotto team in the last years of his Spurs tenure and he has massive front office pull.

George was on an expiring deal and OKC was willing to risk it and blow it all up if it failed. Definitely the outlier of this list, but PG was expected to leave the following summer for LAL as a FA.



Can you explain to me CP3 to the Clippers? To the Rockets?

Anthony Davis to LAL?

Dwight to BK before he ruined it?

Kobe to LAL?

Melo to NYK?

The list goes on.

[DarkXaero]

This.

We see it every time and yet every time it happens again, people are in complete denial, it truly baffles me.

And just like you said, doesn't mean he winds up here, but how fans think he'll be good in Washington is beyond me.

Kyrie didn’t want to go to Boston. Guess where he was sent? Boston.

Kawhi didn’t want to go to Toronto. He wanted LA. Guess where he ended up? Toronto.

Chris Paul wanted to play with Kobe in LA. Where was he sent? To the Clippers.

Paul George wanted to go to LA because he wanted to be close to his mom. Where was he sent? Oklahoma City.

Can you explain this?

Sure can! Context is always necessary.

Kyrie legit signed off on Boston, but also, my point is proven he left. They traded for him anyway because Ainge had a treasure trove of additional assets and players and had missed on a few guys cause he got greedy.

Chris Paul preferred the Lakers, but Clips were most definitely high on his short list. Lakers and Hornets completely botched the CP3 deal and forced Stern's hand on top of this.

Kawhi had severely burned his bridge in San An. They chose to literally spite him and take a horrible deal for them over trading him to any team on his short list who also had favorable assets for a total Spurs blow up. Pop didn't want to coach a lotto team in the last years of his Spurs tenure and he has massive front office pull.

George was on an expiring deal and OKC was willing to risk it and blow it all up if it failed. Definitely the outlier of this list, but PG was expected to leave the following summer for LAL as a FA.



Can you explain to me CP3 to the Clippers? To the Rockets?

Anthony Davis to LAL?

Dwight to BK before he ruined it?

Kobe to LAL?

Melo to NYK?

The list goes on.

I'm gonna add Jimmy Butler to Miami too. He was originally traded to Minnesota, became disgruntled there, and then traded to Sixers (how well did it work out for Minnesota and Philadelphia?). He became a free agent, but ended up at the team he wanted to go to and didn't have the cap space for him (Miami).

[Hello Brooklyn]

Y'all naive if you think that Beal is staying in DC long-term. He has another season there max, before realizing that the Wizards situation is **** and can't be salvaged. He signed a short extension for a reason too. Whether its here or somewhere else, he'll end up playing for another team. And there aren't 20 teams out there with better packages/situation, and that doesn't matter anyway. Beal holds the leverage and if he says that "I'll only re-sign with this list of teams", only those teams will go after him. There's a reason why AD ended up with the Lakers.

We didn't say he would stay long term. Enough of your usual strawmans lol.

We said he is not leaving THIS off season. That's what were discussing right now.

How can we improve for next season. And Beal is not getting traded right now. He resigned so he could give it another go with Wall.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Y'all naive if you think that Beal is staying in DC long-term. He has another season there max, before realizing that the Wizards situation is **** and can't be salvaged. He signed a short extension for a reason too. Whether its here or somewhere else, he'll end up playing for another team. And there aren't 20 teams out there with better packages/situation, and that doesn't matter anyway. Beal holds the leverage and if he says that "I'll only re-sign with this list of teams", only those teams will go after him. There's a reason why AD ended up with the Lakers.

This.

We see it every time and yet every time it happens again, people are in complete denial, it truly baffles me.

And just like you said, doesn't mean he winds up here, but how fans think he'll be good in Washington is beyond me.

Kyrie didn’t want to go to Boston. Guess where he was sent? Boston.

Kawhi didn’t want to go to Toronto. He wanted LA. Guess where he ended up? Toronto.

Chris Paul wanted to play with Kobe in LA. Where was he sent? To the Clippers.

Paul George wanted to go to LA because he wanted to be close to his mom. Where was he sent? Oklahoma City.

Can you explain this?

Exactly. Even if Beal demands to come here, the Wizards will trade him to whoever has the best assets.

And we don't have the cap space to sign him outright anyway. So the AD/Kawhi threat won't work.

[ProspectPark]

This.

We see it every time and yet every time it happens again, people are in complete denial, it truly baffles me.

And just like you said, doesn't mean he winds up here, but how fans think he'll be good in Washington is beyond me.

Kyrie didn’t want to go to Boston. Guess where he was sent? Boston.

Kawhi didn’t want to go to Toronto. He wanted LA. Guess where he ended up? Toronto.

Chris Paul wanted to play with Kobe in LA. Where was he sent? To the Clippers.

Paul George wanted to go to LA because he wanted to be close to his mom. Where was he sent? Oklahoma City.

Can you explain this?

Let's make some corrections since you seem to misrepresent information a lot.

Kyrie was happy going to Boston. https://celticswire.usatoday.com/2019/05/18/boston-was-kyrie-irvings-preferred-destination-in-2017-trade-request/

Kawhi wanted to go to LA, won a championship in Toronto, YET still left the champions for an unproven LA team, proving to be a rental. Obviously Toronto still does that trade 10/10 times in hindsight, but their goal was to have him stay for years to come.

Chris Paul was happy going to the Clippers, and the Lakers trade was infamously veto'd by NBA, after being accepted by then New Orleans GM.

Paul George wanted to go to LA but Lakers never made a serious offer to Indiana as they believed he was going to sign with them in free agency. Paul George surprised everyone when he committed to OKC, but then requested a trade out of there a year later anyway (to a LA team).

But you just told me stars call the shots. Why none of these players directly went where they wanted? Paul George wanted LA, why didn’t he “call the shots” and force his way to LA directly?

Why didn’t Kawhi go straight to LA?

Why didn’t Chris Paul force his way to the Lakers?

And lol at using a Celtics blog boy fan page to say Kyrie was happy to go to Boston. He wasn’t. He gave the Cavs a list and Boston was never on it.

[ProspectPark]

This.

We see it every time and yet every time it happens again, people are in complete denial, it truly baffles me.

And just like you said, doesn't mean he winds up here, but how fans think he'll be good in Washington is beyond me.

Kyrie didn’t want to go to Boston. Guess where he was sent? Boston.

Kawhi didn’t want to go to Toronto. He wanted LA. Guess where he ended up? Toronto.

Chris Paul wanted to play with Kobe in LA. Where was he sent? To the Clippers.

Paul George wanted to go to LA because he wanted to be close to his mom. Where was he sent? Oklahoma City.

Can you explain this?

Sure can! Context is always necessary.

Kyrie legit signed off on Boston, but also, my point is proven he left. They traded for him anyway because Ainge had a treasure trove of additional assets and players and had missed on a few guys cause he got greedy.

Chris Paul preferred the Lakers, but Clips were most definitely high on his short list. Lakers and Hornets completely botched the CP3 deal and forced Stern's hand on top of this.

Kawhi had severely burned his bridge in San An. They chose to literally spite him and take a horrible deal for them over trading him to any team on his short list who also had favorable assets for a total Spurs blow up. Pop didn't want to coach a lotto team in the last years of his Spurs tenure and he has massive front office pull.

George was on an expiring deal and OKC was willing to risk it and blow it all up if it failed. Definitely the outlier of this list, but PG was expected to leave the following summer for LAL as a FA.



Can you explain to me CP3 to the Clippers? To the Rockets?

Anthony Davis to LAL?

Dwight to BK before he ruined it?

Kobe to LAL?

Melo to NYK?

The list goes on.

So again if all these other players didn’t get their way, like you just said with all the excuses you listed above, what makes you think Beal who has 2 years left on his contract, will get his way?

[vincecarter4pres]

Kyrie didn’t want to go to Boston. Guess where he was sent? Boston.

Kawhi didn’t want to go to Toronto. He wanted LA. Guess where he ended up? Toronto.

Chris Paul wanted to play with Kobe in LA. Where was he sent? To the Clippers.

Paul George wanted to go to LA because he wanted to be close to his mom. Where was he sent? Oklahoma City.

Can you explain this?

Let's make some corrections since you seem to misrepresent information a lot.

Kyrie was happy going to Boston. https://celticswire.usatoday.com/2019/05/18/boston-was-kyrie-irvings-preferred-destination-in-2017-trade-request/

Kawhi wanted to go to LA, won a championship in Toronto, YET still left the champions for an unproven LA team, proving to be a rental. Obviously Toronto still does that trade 10/10 times in hindsight, but their goal was to have him stay for years to come.

Chris Paul was happy going to the Clippers, and the Lakers trade was infamously veto'd by NBA, after being accepted by then New Orleans GM.

Paul George wanted to go to LA but Lakers never made a serious offer to Indiana as they believed he was going to sign with them in free agency. Paul George surprised everyone when he committed to OKC, but then requested a trade out of there a year later anyway (to a LA team).

But you just told me stars call the shots. Why none of these players directly went where they wanted? Paul George wanted LA, why didn’t he “call the shots” and force his way to LA directly?

Why didn’t Kawhi go straight to LA?

Why didn’t Chris Paul force his way to the Lakers?

And lol at using a Celtics blog boy fan page to say Kyrie was happy to go to Boston. He wasn’t. He gave the Cavs a list and Boston was never on it.

I mean Chris Paul and Kyrie did go where they wanted. Maybe not to the #1 destination, in Kyrie's case to his 3rd or 4th, but they gave a short list and were sent to one of those.

And Paul George was the rare case of an "honorable" star. He literally told the FO and then the media, "I have 1 year left on my deal, then an opt out, I will be opting out and signing with the Lakers. I'd prefer to stay in Indy for one last year if you won't send me to LA, but understand if you send me anywhere in the league." That is as close a paraphrase as it gets without me looking up quotes, cause that is what he did. I quoted honorable, because honestly, he had absolutely no reason to be that admirable and open about it, yet a lot of people will still say he was selfish for not just staying with the Pacers.

And then OKC got lucky and he somehow decided to re-up with them. But then one year into the deal, he forces his was to LA anyway! But OKC got some pretty nice assets for that move as well. OKC really had a combo of great luck, great GM'ing and desperate big market teams.

Lastly, Kawhi completely burned his bridge with San An. We have never seen anything like that in the modern NBA and probably won't again. We have seen stars force their way out, but we haven't seen teams get overly involved with their superstars injuries and then said star lying/exaggerating the injury and sitting out healthy, with a manipulative uncle behind the scenes and the player himself seems weak minded, therein also easily lead him astray. If he would have just done the normal force out, he probably would have landed on one of the 3 or 4 teams on his list, just not the Lakers and the Spurs would have gone into a full rebuild, with Pops likely retiring.

[ProspectPark]

This.

We see it every time and yet every time it happens again, people are in complete denial, it truly baffles me.

And just like you said, doesn't mean he winds up here, but how fans think he'll be good in Washington is beyond me.

Kyrie didn’t want to go to Boston. Guess where he was sent? Boston.

Kawhi didn’t want to go to Toronto. He wanted LA. Guess where he ended up? Toronto.

Chris Paul wanted to play with Kobe in LA. Where was he sent? To the Clippers.

Paul George wanted to go to LA because he wanted to be close to his mom. Where was he sent? Oklahoma City.

Can you explain this?

Exactly. Even if Beal demands to come here, the Wizards will trade him to whoever has the best assets.

And we don't have the cap space to sign him outright anyway. So the AD/Kawhi threat won't work.

Exactly.

Plus, the only reason Beal would want out is if John Wall isn’t even close to what he was before the injuries.

So if Wall is not good, then trading for LeVert does nothing for Washington. They would want young prospects and draft picks so they can start their rebuild while waiting for Wall’s contract to come off the books.

[vincecarter4pres]

Kyrie didn’t want to go to Boston. Guess where he was sent? Boston.

Kawhi didn’t want to go to Toronto. He wanted LA. Guess where he ended up? Toronto.

Chris Paul wanted to play with Kobe in LA. Where was he sent? To the Clippers.

Paul George wanted to go to LA because he wanted to be close to his mom. Where was he sent? Oklahoma City.

Can you explain this?

Sure can! Context is always necessary.

Kyrie legit signed off on Boston, but also, my point is proven he left. They traded for him anyway because Ainge had a treasure trove of additional assets and players and had missed on a few guys cause he got greedy.

Chris Paul preferred the Lakers, but Clips were most definitely high on his short list. Lakers and Hornets completely botched the CP3 deal and forced Stern's hand on top of this.

Kawhi had severely burned his bridge in San An. They chose to literally spite him and take a horrible deal for them over trading him to any team on his short list who also had favorable assets for a total Spurs blow up. Pop didn't want to coach a lotto team in the last years of his Spurs tenure and he has massive front office pull.

George was on an expiring deal and OKC was willing to risk it and blow it all up if it failed. Definitely the outlier of this list, but PG was expected to leave the following summer for LAL as a FA.



Can you explain to me CP3 to the Clippers? To the Rockets?

Anthony Davis to LAL?

Dwight to BK before he ruined it?

Kobe to LAL?

Melo to NYK?

The list goes on.

So again if all these other players didn’t get their way, like you just said with all the excuses you listed above, what makes you think Beal who has 2 years left on his contract, will get his way?

But 3 of 4 of them did get their way and Kawhi is a weird special case, as I just replied to in the other quoted post.

Beal will likely, almost certainly get his way, if either he decides to request a trade, or Washington simply gets smart and deals him now. He might not get dealt to his first team of choice. We might not be his first team of choice. And Washington will talk to teams around the league. But all likelihood he will either be dealt to a team from a short list he presents them with, or he will be asked to personally sign off on a different team, because most teams will not want a max dollar big name star on a 2 year deal who is going to be furious about being dealt there, unless they get him for peanuts.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Sure can! Context is always necessary.

Kyrie legit signed off on Boston, but also, my point is proven he left. They traded for him anyway because Ainge had a treasure trove of additional assets and players and had missed on a few guys cause he got greedy.

Chris Paul preferred the Lakers, but Clips were most definitely high on his short list. Lakers and Hornets completely botched the CP3 deal and forced Stern's hand on top of this.

Kawhi had severely burned his bridge in San An. They chose to literally spite him and take a horrible deal for them over trading him to any team on his short list who also had favorable assets for a total Spurs blow up. Pop didn't want to coach a lotto team in the last years of his Spurs tenure and he has massive front office pull.

George was on an expiring deal and OKC was willing to risk it and blow it all up if it failed. Definitely the outlier of this list, but PG was expected to leave the following summer for LAL as a FA.



Can you explain to me CP3 to the Clippers? To the Rockets?

Anthony Davis to LAL?

Dwight to BK before he ruined it?

Kobe to LAL?

Melo to NYK?

The list goes on.

So again if all these other players didn’t get their way, like you just said with all the excuses you listed above, what makes you think Beal who has 2 years left on his contract, will get his way?

But 3 of 4 of them did get their way and Kawhi is a weird special case, as I just replied to in the other quoted post.

Beal will likely, almost certainly get his way, if either he decides to request a trade, or Washington simply gets smart and deals him now. He might not get dealt to his first team of choice. We might not be his first team of choice. And Washington will talk to teams around the league. But all likelihood he will either be dealt to a team from a short list he presents them with, or he will be asked to personally sign off on a different team, because most teams will not want a max dollar big name star on a 2 year deal who is going to be furious about being dealt there, unless they get him for peanuts.

Levert is a good asset for an up and coming team looking to make the playoffs ie the Pelicans or the Hawks.

Hes 26 years old.

He makes no sense for a team like the Wizards who are looking to completely tear it down and start over.

In that situation you want a player much younger like 20 years old.

Why would the Wizards trade for a package centered around Levert? Its not even worth discussing.

[vincecarter4pres]

So again if all these other players didn’t get their way, like you just said with all the excuses you listed above, what makes you think Beal who has 2 years left on his contract, will get his way?

But 3 of 4 of them did get their way and Kawhi is a weird special case, as I just replied to in the other quoted post.

Beal will likely, almost certainly get his way, if either he decides to request a trade, or Washington simply gets smart and deals him now. He might not get dealt to his first team of choice. We might not be his first team of choice. And Washington will talk to teams around the league. But all likelihood he will either be dealt to a team from a short list he presents them with, or he will be asked to personally sign off on a different team, because most teams will not want a max dollar big name star on a 2 year deal who is going to be furious about being dealt there, unless they get him for peanuts.

Levert is a good asset for an up and coming team looking to make the playoffs ie the Pelicans or the Hawks.

Hes 26 years old.

He makes no sense for a team like the Wizards who are looking to completely tear it down and start over.

In that situation you want a player much younger like 20 years old.

Why would the Wizards trade for a package centered around Levert? Its not even worth discussing.

First off, and this is not a copout, but Washington is a historically poorly ran franchise. They've been one of the absolute worst run NBA teams of the last 2 or 3 decades and almost always hang on to their stars too long.

2nd, it could definitely be a three team deal.

One that someone else ironically just brought up on a different board was quite interesting to me.

The framework is essentially:

LeVert to the Hawks

Beal to Brooklyn

6 and 19 to Washington plus players/picks

This deal would have to rely on Beal not wanting to go to Atlanta, or else I see them cutting out the middle man.

But assuming that was true and assuming there were no deals where Washington could get the 1st or 2nd overall pick from GSW or the Wolves, it's the basis of a very strong package for Beal.

Something like:

6xth overall pick
19th overall pick
'21 BK 1st
Claxton
Prince
huge cap relief

Is a stellar package for Beal. If we had to swap Allen for Claxton, even better for them.


Again, the only thing realistic deals I could see beating it, is if GSW or Minny dealt for him, or in a 3 team deal for a Ben Simmons or Embiid and they got the 1st or 2nd overall pick and future picks. But then chances are they have to take back Wiggins contract in some form. Gross anyway you slice it unless you're convinced the guy at 1 or 2 is a generational talent.

Or if Atlanta went straight up for him, giving up the 6, one of Huerter or Hunter, a future pick and cap space. But this assumes Beal is good with playing in Atlanta. I wouldn't doubt it, but you're going to want his blessing if you're the Hawks giving up all that value and cap space.

[MrDollarBills]

I think the Pop thing is real.

The Spurs are likely going to rebuild and will not contend anytime soon.

Why would Pop want to spend the end of his career coaching a bunch of kids?

Either he retires or gives it one last go to win a Championship.

With all the being said, I'm not convinced hes the right coach for this team. Are KD/Kyrie really going to buy into what he says and his system? Will they give him that authority?

It might be better to just go for a player friendly type like Ty Lue.

KD is not a coachable player? I've never heard that knock on him before.

[Hello Brooklyn]

I think the Pop thing is real.

The Spurs are likely going to rebuild and will not contend anytime soon.

Why would Pop want to spend the end of his career coaching a bunch of kids?

Either he retires or gives it one last go to win a Championship.

With all the being said, I'm not convinced hes the right coach for this team. Are KD/Kyrie really going to buy into what he says and his system? Will they give him that authority?

It might be better to just go for a player friendly type like Ty Lue.

KD is not a coachable player? I've never heard that knock on him before.

I'm not saying KD is not coachable.

But Poppovich is very strict and rules with an iron fist. I'm not sure KD/Kyrie want that type of coach.

[MrDollarBills]

I think the Pop thing is real.

The Spurs are likely going to rebuild and will not contend anytime soon.

Why would Pop want to spend the end of his career coaching a bunch of kids?

Either he retires or gives it one last go to win a Championship.

With all the being said, I'm not convinced hes the right coach for this team. Are KD/Kyrie really going to buy into what he says and his system? Will they give him that authority?

It might be better to just go for a player friendly type like Ty Lue.

KD is not a coachable player? I've never heard that knock on him before.

I'm not saying KD is not coachable.

But Poppovich is very strict and rules with an iron fist. I'm not sure KD/Kyrie want that type of coach.

Then they don't want to win a championship.

But I've read that KD is the one pushing for Pop.

[Hello Brooklyn]

KD is not a coachable player? I've never heard that knock on him before.

I'm not saying KD is not coachable.

But Poppovich is very strict and rules with an iron fist. I'm not sure KD/Kyrie want that type of coach.

Then they don't want to win a championship.

But I've read that KD is the one pushing for Pop.

Thats just the way the league is bro.

Look at LeBron. Hes never wanted to be coached either.

[Prokorov]

This.

We see it every time and yet every time it happens again, people are in complete denial, it truly baffles me.

And just like you said, doesn't mean he winds up here, but how fans think he'll be good in Washington is beyond me.

Kyrie didn’t want to go to Boston. Guess where he was sent? Boston.

Kawhi didn’t want to go to Toronto. He wanted LA. Guess where he ended up? Toronto.

Chris Paul wanted to play with Kobe in LA. Where was he sent? To the Clippers.

Paul George wanted to go to LA because he wanted to be close to his mom. Where was he sent? Oklahoma City.

Can you explain this?

Let's make some corrections since you seem to misrepresent information a lot.

Kyrie was happy going to Boston. https://celticswire.usatoday.com/2019/05/18/boston-was-kyrie-irvings-preferred-destination-in-2017-trade-request/

Kawhi wanted to go to LA, won a championship in Toronto, YET still left the champions for an unproven LA team, proving to be a rental. Obviously Toronto still does that trade 10/10 times in hindsight, but their goal was to have him stay for years to come.

Chris Paul was happy going to the Clippers, and the Lakers trade was infamously veto'd by NBA, after being accepted by then New Orleans GM.

Paul George wanted to go to LA but Lakers never made a serious offer to Indiana as they believed he was going to sign with them in free agency. Paul George surprised everyone when he committed to OKC, but then requested a trade out of there a year later anyway (to a LA team).

Seriously everyone one of those examples is a reason to think Beal wont be in washington.... like legit every one of those guys who didnt go directly where they wanted got there a year later or the second they were able to leverage it. George had a longterm deal and commited to OKC. kyrie had 1 year left and committed verbally to boston and still bounced. Not to mention AD forced his way out of a deal with years left

[Prokorov]

Y'all naive if you think that Beal is staying in DC long-term. He has another season there max, before realizing that the Wizards situation is **** and can't be salvaged. He signed a short extension for a reason too. Whether its here or somewhere else, he'll end up playing for another team. And there aren't 20 teams out there with better packages/situation, and that doesn't matter anyway. Beal holds the leverage and if he says that "I'll only re-sign with this list of teams", only those teams will go after him. There's a reason why AD ended up with the Lakers.

We didn't say he would stay long term. Enough of your usual strawmans lol.

We said he is not leaving THIS off season. That's what were discussing right now.

How can we improve for next season. And Beal is not getting traded right now. He resigned so he could give it another go with Wall.

0,0% chance beal is in DC next year unless the pandemic ruins another year. no one is waiting to "play a year with wall" who wasnt good enough to be even a fringe contender before all the injuries. he may nto end up here, but he wont be in DC

[Prokorov]

Kyrie didn’t want to go to Boston. Guess where he was sent? Boston.

Kawhi didn’t want to go to Toronto. He wanted LA. Guess where he ended up? Toronto.

Chris Paul wanted to play with Kobe in LA. Where was he sent? To the Clippers.

Paul George wanted to go to LA because he wanted to be close to his mom. Where was he sent? Oklahoma City.

Can you explain this?

Let's make some corrections since you seem to misrepresent information a lot.

Kyrie was happy going to Boston. https://celticswire.usatoday.com/2019/05/18/boston-was-kyrie-irvings-preferred-destination-in-2017-trade-request/

Kawhi wanted to go to LA, won a championship in Toronto, YET still left the champions for an unproven LA team, proving to be a rental. Obviously Toronto still does that trade 10/10 times in hindsight, but their goal was to have him stay for years to come.

Chris Paul was happy going to the Clippers, and the Lakers trade was infamously veto'd by NBA, after being accepted by then New Orleans GM.

Paul George wanted to go to LA but Lakers never made a serious offer to Indiana as they believed he was going to sign with them in free agency. Paul George surprised everyone when he committed to OKC, but then requested a trade out of there a year later anyway (to a LA team).

But you just told me stars call the shots. Why none of these players directly went where they wanted? Paul George wanted LA, why didn’t he “call the shots” and force his way to LA directly?

Why didn’t Kawhi go straight to LA?

Why didn’t Chris Paul force his way to the Lakers?

And lol at using a Celtics blog boy fan page to say Kyrie was happy to go to Boston. He wasn’t. He gave the Cavs a list and Boston was never on it.

because the teams trading those guys did it out of spite instead of what was best... and EVERY single one of those teams screwed themselves in the end. other than maybe toronto who at least won a title for the 1 year rental.

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Kyrie didn’t want to go to Boston. Guess where he was sent? Boston.

Kawhi didn’t want to go to Toronto. He wanted LA. Guess where he ended up? Toronto.

Chris Paul wanted to play with Kobe in LA. Where was he sent? To the Clippers.

Paul George wanted to go to LA because he wanted to be close to his mom. Where was he sent? Oklahoma City.

Can you explain this?

Sure can! Context is always necessary.

Kyrie legit signed off on Boston, but also, my point is proven he left. They traded for him anyway because Ainge had a treasure trove of additional assets and players and had missed on a few guys cause he got greedy.

Chris Paul preferred the Lakers, but Clips were most definitely high on his short list. Lakers and Hornets completely botched the CP3 deal and forced Stern's hand on top of this.

Kawhi had severely burned his bridge in San An. They chose to literally spite him and take a horrible deal for them over trading him to any team on his short list who also had favorable assets for a total Spurs blow up. Pop didn't want to coach a lotto team in the last years of his Spurs tenure and he has massive front office pull.

George was on an expiring deal and OKC was willing to risk it and blow it all up if it failed. Definitely the outlier of this list, but PG was expected to leave the following summer for LAL as a FA.



Can you explain to me CP3 to the Clippers? To the Rockets?

Anthony Davis to LAL?

Dwight to BK before he ruined it?

Kobe to LAL?

Melo to NYK?

The list goes on.

So again if all these other players didn’t get their way, like you just said with all the excuses you listed above, what makes you think Beal who has 2 years left on his contract, will get his way?

all those players got their way in the end