Breaking: Kevin Durant has requested a trade; UPDATE: KD wants Sean Marks/Nash fired - Shams

[Eatgreenz]

We have to remember because of Trash Nash non ability to coach. He relied purely on Kd and was basically playing 48 min for a whole month. He was going to get gassed eventually.

[MrDollarBills]

But if he doesn't want to hold players accountable as a leader - and has a big problem with the organization / coaches holding players accountable - it's just not going to work here.

This is what is baffling to me.

What the **** does KD want to begin with? He's behaving like a child.

He's a great player, but any team that trades for him right now is taking a massive, massive risk. Not only due to the fact that he gets injured every year and misses a significant chunk of time, but you can't trust him anymore. Who is to say that if we trade him, he doesn't turn around and asks out the very next year ala Harden? Imagine Boston giving us Jaylen Brown and KD demands a trade the next summer???? That would be brutal.

His trade value is low because of his own doing. Nothing more, nothing less. the fact that Boston even offered Brown is crazy to me now. Marks should have taken the first deal and washed his hands of this mess.

[Shark]

We have to remember because of Trash Nash non ability to coach. He relied purely on Kd and was basically playing 48 min for a whole month. He was going to get gassed eventually.

Nash deserves a lot of blame for that, but it's also on KD. Last playoffs he said he would play 40+ minutes the rest of the Bucks series if needed. That mentality carried over into the season, especially after Kyrie decided to derail the season by not playing and Harden was traded.

It's Nash's responsibility to tell KD he's not playing 40+ minutes every game and to be able to be a competent enough coach to make up for the minutes he's not on the floor.

But it's also KD's responsibility to know he just can't do it over a large part of the season. It's just not the same as a 7 game series and especially not the same for a 30+ year old that had a major injury a few seasons ago and has been picking up other injuries at an increasing rate.

[MrDollarBills]

I'm pretty much to the point where I think we need to trade KD/Curry for Brown, White, G. Williams + 2 1sts.

PG: Simmons/White/Sumner
SG: Brown/Mills/Thomas
SF: Harris/O'Neale/Edwards
PF: Williams/Warren
C: Claxton/Sharpe

Time to move on and develop an identity as a 3 and D team.

[Tha King]

Agree with others in not reading too much into that Celtics series. The team in general was a mess with no continuity and everyone (especially KD) was playing heavy minutes just to get into the playoffs. Celtics were also a great matchup for KD with several players they could put on him while focusing the entire defense on him. It did highlight some weaknesses though (turnovers, too much isolation/midrange offense) that were evident before that can be improved upon.

That Celtics series is why I wouldn't trade KD before really really really trying to make things work. I think he's going to be motivated to show out this season, on the Nets or not.

I know you're all done with Kyrie too but I get the sense he's going to be looking to show out too. trading him right now to say the Lakers or Heat for some late picks only to watch that happen would not be a good look.

[MrDollarBills]

Agree with others in not reading too much into that Celtics series. The team in general was a mess with no continuity and everyone (especially KD) was playing heavy minutes just to get into the playoffs. Celtics were also a great matchup for KD with several players they could put on him while focusing the entire defense on him. It did highlight some weaknesses though (turnovers, too much isolation/midrange offense) that were evident before that can be improved upon.

That Celtics series is why I wouldn't trade KD before really really really trying to make things work. I think he's going to be motivated to show out this season, on the Nets or not.

I know you're all done with Kyrie too but I get the sense he's going to be looking to show out too. trading him right now to say the Lakers or Heat for some late picks only to watch that happen would not be a good look.

Kyrie destroyed not only our season, but has nearly destroyed this franchise, leaving us in a precarious position.

If Marks waived Kyrie tomorrow I wouldn't give a f*ck. He's persona non grata

KD hasn't even given a reason for his trade request. At this point, I'm done with him too. I'm already getting excited about pairing Simmons and Brown together.

[Tha King]

I'm pretty much to the point where I think we need to trade KD/Curry for Brown, White, G. Williams + 2 1sts.

PG: Simmons/White/Sumner
SG: Brown/Mills/Thomas
SF: Harris/O'Neale/Edwards
PF: Williams/Warren
C: Claxton/Sharpe

Time to move on and develop an identity as a 3 and D team.

That's very likely the best team you can get from this situation but it's also kinda meh, like a 7-9 seed type

Brown is a good player but the East is now stacked to where if he (or Sixers Simmons) are your best players your team is near play-in caliber. For the next two seasons (Brown is an UFA in two years) can that core group compete with the Bucks, Celtics, Sixers, Heat? Then you have the Hawks with Trae, Murray, Collins, etc. and Raptors, Cavs with ascending Barnes and Mobley/Garland.

I will keep pushing this, and it's completely fair if no one else feels this way considering all that has happened, but KD isn't going to sit out so give this roster a chance to prove it aint it first. One year of possible contention with KD/Kyrie/Simmons is better than two years of that above roster. Trade requests have happened before it's nothing new and some teams have said NO and it ended up working out very well. Hastily acquiescing to trading KD could end up like Harden to Sixers where you not so immediately question why and wonder if you should have just played things out.

[Tha King]

Agree with others in not reading too much into that Celtics series. The team in general was a mess with no continuity and everyone (especially KD) was playing heavy minutes just to get into the playoffs. Celtics were also a great matchup for KD with several players they could put on him while focusing the entire defense on him. It did highlight some weaknesses though (turnovers, too much isolation/midrange offense) that were evident before that can be improved upon.

That Celtics series is why I wouldn't trade KD before really really really trying to make things work. I think he's going to be motivated to show out this season, on the Nets or not.

I know you're all done with Kyrie too but I get the sense he's going to be looking to show out too. trading him right now to say the Lakers or Heat for some late picks only to watch that happen would not be a good look.

Kyrie destroyed not only our season, but has nearly destroyed this franchise, leaving us in a precarious position.

If Marks waived Kyrie tomorrow I wouldn't give a f*ck. He's persona non grata

KD hasn't even given a reason for his trade request. At this point, I'm done with him too. I'm already getting excited about pairing Simmons and Brown together.

I get it

I think with KD it's probably as simple as: Kyrie-Simmons (even though he decided to team up with Kyrie)

[MrDollarBills]

I'm pretty much to the point where I think we need to trade KD/Curry for Brown, White, G. Williams + 2 1sts.

PG: Simmons/White/Sumner
SG: Brown/Mills/Thomas
SF: Harris/O'Neale/Edwards
PF: Williams/Warren
C: Claxton/Sharpe

Time to move on and develop an identity as a 3 and D team.

That's very likely the best team you can get from this situation but it's also kinda meh, like a 7-9 seed type

Brown is a good player but the East is now stacked to where if he (or Sixers Simmons) are your best players your team is near play-in caliber. For the next two seasons (Brown is an UFA in two years) can that core group compete with the Bucks, Celtics, Sixers, Heat? Then you have the Hawks with Trae, Murray, Collins, etc. and Raptors, Cavs with ascending Barnes and Mobley/Garland.

I will keep pushing this, and it's completely fair if no one else feels this way considering all that has happened, but KD isn't going to sit out so give this roster a chance to prove it aint it first. One year of possible contention with KD/Kyrie/Simmons is better than two years of that above roster. Trade requests have happened before it's nothing new and some teams have said NO and it ended up working out very well. Hastily acquiescing to trading KD could end up like Harden to Sixers where you not so immediately question why and wonder if you should have just played things out.

I hear you, but KD, like Harden, has become a toxic presence and if he doesn't rescind his request, the entire season is going to be drama filled and full of distraction.

[Paradise]

I'm pretty much to the point where I think we need to trade KD/Curry for Brown, White, G. Williams + 2 1sts.

PG: Simmons/White/Sumner
SG: Brown/Mills/Thomas
SF: Harris/O'Neale/Edwards
PF: Williams/Warren
C: Claxton/Sharpe

Time to move on and develop an identity as a 3 and D team.

That's very likely the best team you can get from this situation but it's also kinda meh, like a 7-9 seed type

Brown is a good player but the East is now stacked to where if he (or Sixers Simmons) are your best players your team is near play-in caliber. For the next two seasons (Brown is an UFA in two years) can that core group compete with the Bucks, Celtics, Sixers, Heat? Then you have the Hawks with Trae, Murray, Collins, etc. and Raptors, Cavs with ascending Barnes and Mobley/Garland.

I will keep pushing this, and it's completely fair if no one else feels this way considering all that has happened, but KD isn't going to sit out so give this roster a chance to prove it aint it first. One year of possible contention with KD/Kyrie/Simmons is better than two years of that above roster. Trade requests have happened before it's nothing new and some teams have said NO and it ended up working out very well. Hastily acquiescing to trading KD could end up like Harden to Sixers where you not so immediately question why and wonder if you should have just played things out.

I hear you, but KD, like Harden, has become a toxic presence and if he doesn't rescind his request, the entire season is going to be drama filled and full of distraction.

I am not moving anyone until I hear an actual reason from their mouths. It’s obvious the best situation is fixing this and that’s where it’s headed. I really don’t know why media owns the minds of those this much.

There’s no shoehorning a team without KD or Kyrie that makes sense unless we get the best package and we won’t without Smart / multiple draft picks. Our best chance of anything is still keeping both. They aren’t going to “sit out” risking their reputation with the teams they allegedly want to join. Stop it. Take out emotion. This is why Kyrie is changing his tune because the media has ran with their own narratives and you all eat it. This is a contract dispute gone bad.

There has NEVER been a time in this where Kyrie announced he’s leaving, never has KD. We can want them gone based on their personal choices handling this but they never said they wouldn’t return here and KD doing his summer tours in Harlem schools is an example.

The issues here with KD comes down to the Kyrie relationship. I have no issue trading him if he’s no longer interested in being a Net. I will not trade him based on something as stupid as a contract dispute and I’m not forcing the idea of a mediocre package to finish a deal just for the sake of it.

This hunger to deal both right now is all emotional and not logical. Unless, we’re dealing with a sit out situation, there’s no reason to deal anyone until the deadline. That’s dumb as hell and this is quickly turning into Carmelo 2.0 here. He had a entered training camp with a great team and kept his trade request throughout the season despite a Top 4 seeded record with Billups, Jr Smith, Nene having a great season.

Unless, KD still wants out while Simmons and anyone else is having a career year and we’re winning. I wouldn’t entertain it.

We are shooting trades for him down left and right but this board somehow wants to believe it will happen in 24 hours since July. Stop the delusion.

[Papi_swav]

We have to remember because of Trash Nash non ability to coach. He relied purely on Kd and was basically playing 48 min for a whole month. He was going to get gassed eventually.

Exactly, this is why I don't put too much blame on him in the playoffs last year. Dude was gassed, then was guarded by one of the best defensive teams with a defensive minded coach then had to go on the other end and guard Tatum and Brown. That's way too much for a post achilles 34 year old player. He probably wants to get away from Nash.

[Netaman]

I'm pretty much to the point where I think we need to trade KD/Curry for Brown, White, G. Williams + 2 1sts.

PG: Simmons/White/Sumner
SG: Brown/Mills/Thomas
SF: Harris/O'Neale/Edwards
PF: Williams/Warren
C: Claxton/Sharpe

Time to move on and develop an identity as a 3 and D team.

I don't hate this deal (or moving on from KD right now in general) but they'd have to get more picks if it's White not Smart. Especially if Seth is going out too because he will easily bring back a first at the deadline. Very movable piece to any contender.

So maybe a compromise is 3 FRPs and no Seth/White involved?

[Netaman]

We have to remember because of Trash Nash non ability to coach. He relied purely on Kd and was basically playing 48 min for a whole month. He was going to get gassed eventually.

KD was playing 48 mpg because KD wanted to play 48 mpg.

the same way Nash was hired as the HC because KD wanted Nash to be HC.

and the same way Nash was retained as the HC because KD wanted Nash to be retained.

plenty of writers have made it clear that Nash has been here from the beginning because he is KD's guy.

[MrDollarBills]

That's very likely the best team you can get from this situation but it's also kinda meh, like a 7-9 seed type

Brown is a good player but the East is now stacked to where if he (or Sixers Simmons) are your best players your team is near play-in caliber. For the next two seasons (Brown is an UFA in two years) can that core group compete with the Bucks, Celtics, Sixers, Heat? Then you have the Hawks with Trae, Murray, Collins, etc. and Raptors, Cavs with ascending Barnes and Mobley/Garland.

I will keep pushing this, and it's completely fair if no one else feels this way considering all that has happened, but KD isn't going to sit out so give this roster a chance to prove it aint it first. One year of possible contention with KD/Kyrie/Simmons is better than two years of that above roster. Trade requests have happened before it's nothing new and some teams have said NO and it ended up working out very well. Hastily acquiescing to trading KD could end up like Harden to Sixers where you not so immediately question why and wonder if you should have just played things out.

I hear you, but KD, like Harden, has become a toxic presence and if he doesn't rescind his request, the entire season is going to be drama filled and full of distraction.

I am not moving anyone until I hear an actual reason from their mouths. It’s obvious the best situation is fixing this and that’s where it’s headed. I really don’t know why media owns the minds of those this much.

There’s no shoehorning a team without KD or Kyrie that makes sense unless we get the best package and we won’t without Smart / multiple draft picks. Our best chance of anything is still keeping both. They aren’t going to “sit out” risking their reputation with the teams they allegedly want to join. Stop it. Take out emotion. This is why Kyrie is changing his tune because the media has ran with their own narratives and you all eat it. This is a contract dispute gone bad.

There has NEVER been a time in this where Kyrie announced he’s leaving, never has KD. We can want them gone based on their personal choices handling this but they never said they wouldn’t return here and KD doing his summer tours in Harlem schools is an example.

The issues here with KD comes down to the Kyrie relationship. I have no issue trading him if he’s no longer interested in being a Net. I will not trade him based on something as stupid as a contract dispute and I’m not forcing the idea of a mediocre package to finish a deal just for the sake of it.

This hunger to deal both right now is all emotional and not logical. Unless, we’re dealing with a sit out situation, there’s no reason to deal anyone until the deadline. That’s dumb as hell and this is quickly turning into Carmelo 2.0 here. He had a entered training camp with a great team and kept his trade request throughout the season despite a Top 4 seeded record with Billups, Jr Smith, Nene having a great season.

Unless, KD still wants out while Simmons and anyone else is having a career year and we’re winning. I wouldn’t entertain it.

We are shooting trades for him down left and right but this board somehow wants to believe it will happen in 24 hours since July. Stop the delusion.

You're attacking a straw man. I never said they would sit out, I am saying that holding onto KD, who has yet to explain why he even wants out, will just create another toxic season. You are absolutely deluded if you think things will go as smoothly as they did for Denver when Melo, who is nowhere near as toxic as Kyrie and KD are, asked out. It will be a disaster.

If you want that, fine. I don't. I want to root for a team that has guys that want to play here and compete, and not two drama kings that are in and out of the line up and get swept in the first round.

[MrDollarBills]

I'm pretty much to the point where I think we need to trade KD/Curry for Brown, White, G. Williams + 2 1sts.

PG: Simmons/White/Sumner
SG: Brown/Mills/Thomas
SF: Harris/O'Neale/Edwards
PF: Williams/Warren
C: Claxton/Sharpe

Time to move on and develop an identity as a 3 and D team.

I don't hate this deal (or moving on from KD right now in general) but they'd have to get more picks if it's White not Smart. Especially if Seth is going out too because he will easily bring back a first at the deadline. Very movable piece to any contender.

So maybe a compromise is 3 FRPs and no Seth/White involved?

Boston fans have been pretty high on White so i wouldn't mind taking him back now. I would move Seth because he definitely isn't resigning here after how awful the locker room was, but I agree he definitely could fetch a first at the deadline.

I mainly want Brown and Grant Williams.

[MrDollarBills]

We have to remember because of Trash Nash non ability to coach. He relied purely on Kd and was basically playing 48 min for a whole month. He was going to get gassed eventually.

KD was playing 48 mpg because KD wanted to play 48 mpg.

the same way Nash was hired as the HC because KD wanted Nash to be HC.

and the same way Nash was retained as the HC because KD wanted Nash to be retained.

plenty of writers have made it clear that Nash has been here from the beginning because he is KD's guy.

Nash is a horrible coach but KD is the one who said "play me until i die out there".

The Nets have done everything for KD and he's f*cking the team over. And yet people on here think we can win with this guy?

[ArksNetsSince99]

I just want them Gone Gone Gone both of them , we knew what we got with Kyrie since day one but real snake here is Durant , he still a Net and I already hate the guy

Wtf is wrong with Marks ? Month pass since snake request a trade and there is articles about we are in the same position as we were month ago , like seriously wtf , you’re a gm do your job or shut up with this nonsense, you not doing yourself any favors by opening your mouth Marks

[ArksNetsSince99]

Show me a hottest chick on earth and i will show you the guy who is tired foocking her

That’s who’s Durant here , hot chick who could give you a lot of good times ( read championships) yet so many Nets fans is tired of him ( want him gone ) either though our next chick whoever we trade for it’s not gonna be so gorgeous

Don’t forget your Pimp Nash Trash to take with you KD

[ArksNetsSince99]

We have to remember because of Trash Nash non ability to coach. He relied purely on Kd and was basically playing 48 min for a whole month. He was going to get gassed eventually.

KD was playing 48 mpg because KD wanted to play 48 mpg.

the same way Nash was hired as the HC because KD wanted Nash to be HC.

and the same way Nash was retained as the HC because KD wanted Nash to be retained.

plenty of writers have made it clear that Nash has been here from the beginning because he is KD's guy.

Nash is a horrible coach but KD is the one who said "play me until i die out there".

The Nets have done everything for KD and he's f*cking the team over. And yet people on here think we can win with this guy?

No we can’t win with Durant Kyrie and Nash here , not anymore, I doubt we was ever in this position

The sooner they gone the better

[JoseRizal]

Right now, I just want to get this over with and ship both guys. There's no use in keeping them i hopes of winning cures everything. There's this thing called chemistry, and we absolutely have 0% of it. It's true that this is a talented team as currently assembled, but we've seen how talent gets defeated in the playoffs due to lack of teamwork.

As a fan, I don't feel invested rooting for these clowns anymore. Heck, I have a softer spot for Ben now seeing how he supports the kids in SL and all. This is the 2nd time we hired mercenaries and failed, though no regrets in hindsight. But I think it's time to go back to fun basketball, similar to previous iteration prior to 7-11 coming here.

As for trade possibilities, I really hope that the Pelicans get on the KD sweepstakes as I feel that they have the best to offer to us. Ingram (4 yrs control) and a bevy of picks (most valuable than other teams in the running) would instantly reset and rejuvinate our team. I also hope we replace Nash with someone who can develop players (ala Kenny). Next would be Boston's offer of JB. My only hesitation with him is that he can bolt by 2024, or resign for a shorter deal (renewal of TV contract is on 2025 which would create a spike in the salary cap similar to 2016), which I'm sure Jaylen may be targetting to get maximum dollars.

Regardless of what happens, I hope the FO learns it's lesson not to cater to player empowerment and take a page from the Spurs, Heat & Warrior's book.

I can't wait to be an excited Net fan again...