The Official Lin Net Thread

[hood30]

oh boy, here we go. first preseason game in and exactly what the rocket and hornets fans were saying has already reared its head.

you do realize Lopez and Lin both function as the main attackers on this team? don't start this crap or it will be problem.

What the other forums warned about will definitely happen here. Just keep in mind that it is only a couple of fans, and when you deal with them the board will remain on track.

Really looking forward to seeing what RHJ and Skil can do playing with Lin. AB, on the other hand, was sadly a disappointment. Looked very out of shape.

Please stop with the stereotyping, one guy's opinion doesn't represent everyone else.

It's only one preseason game, give them some time to build chemistry. Lin always plays according to what the defense gives him. They are giving him space to shoot, and he is on fire, so he took more shots. He only took 11 shots in total and made 8 of them, there should be no complaints on his shot selection either.

and with the motion offense, the assists are spread out between everyone anyways. As long as the ball is moving, try not to focus on any particular player's assist numbers.

I personally didn't see any issue with his opinion..He's just stating his observation and I'm not sure why MrDollarBills quickly jumped on his neck...There's other long time Nets fan who have worst opinion about Brook Lopez game which I don't understand

Brook is not a guy that rolls hard to the basket after setting a pick, so his teammates will have to sim[ply deal with that...as long as he scores enough when he's thrown the ball, the team should be okay.

Defensively, I felt like Brook was abit slow to defend the PnR...RHJ was definitely not good on D for the first quarter..They kept leaving open men free to take open 3's....Kenny will have to fix that for next game.

[Gil]

No way is the way he was shooting tonight from 3 sustainable. He reverts back to his usual sub 36% once the season starts.

[leeramundo]

No way is the way he was shooting tonight from 3 sustainable. He reverts back to his usual sub 36% once the season starts.

He shot 62.5% from 3 tonight, no crap that's not sustainable. We'll just have to see where he settles. He shot 36.9% during his year with the Lakers and improved every year leading up that season, until it dropped last year. So I expect it to get back to around 36% this year at least if his shot adjustment really took hold during the off season, and 36% ain't too bad.

[TinmanZBoy]

NEW YORK -- Brooklyn Nets point guard Jeremy Lin explained the team's decision to put their arms around each other as a sign of solidarity during the playing of the national anthem prior to Thursday night's 101-94 preseason victory over the Detroit Pistons.

"I think we can all acknowledge that there is an issue at hand, but how you go about it is really what we tried to do: arms around each other, solidarity, doing it together," said Lin, who scored 21 points in his first exhibition game with his new team. "This isn't anti-cops. This country needs cops. This country isn't anti-minorities. This country needs minorities. This is what makes our nation great. We need both, and we need compassion and more sympathy where guys can really take the time to put themselves in someone else's shoes."

Several NBA teams have locked arms as a sign of unity in light of the social issues that have arisen in the United States. Lin says the Nets don't just want to show unity at games. They're in the process of figuring out how to act on it as a community. The team had discussions about what they were going to do Thursday night after their morning shootaround, Lin said.

"I think right now what we're seeing is -- it's not everywhere -- but there has been some division and increased hostility, and that to me is almost one step forward and two steps back. So again, it's about solidarity, and it's not lip service too," Lin said. "We as a team, [me] as a person, we as an organization want to be able to do things in the community going forward to be able to promote the same message. We want to actually do something more and be more proactive about it, which we're talking about internally."


Lin, who went undrafted out of Harvard and is of Asian descent, told ESPN.com recently that he wants to use his social media accounts as a platform to create change.

"I want to help shape the world and change the world," he said. "If all I can say after my career is over is I scored X points and had X amount of assists and won X amount of games, that to me would mean I didn't do everything I could. You see so many issues and so many people go through real things, and so when I have my social media I always want to impart certain values or share who I am as a person.

"And I think in a lot of ways I challenge certain stereotypes. I'm not your average NBA player. I'm not your average Asian or Asian American. I'm not your average Harvard student. I'm not your average anything. I'm very different in a lot of different ways, and so social media allows me to express my Christian values or challenge different stereotypes or philanthropy or just showing my personality, those are all ways for me to use my platform and do so in a beneficial way."

[tonman]

No way is the way he was shooting tonight from 3 sustainable. He reverts back to his usual sub 36% once the season starts.

Dude the 3 pointer didn't get him paid. The threat of the 3 pointer does. If he shoots more than a third of his shots as three pointers then there's issues. This was perfect in the fact that teams have to believe he's a threat at range which will open things up.

[Pistolpete1947]

Actually i dont really see Lin being able to avg crazy high assist numbers due to being able to dominate the ball ala CP3/Rondo. Atkinson is clearly going for a share the wealth system as the multiple option, fast ball movement, quick cuts, hard screens, and alot of reads from every player who touches the ball. However i do see when **** breaks down and the team needs a bucket badly the team will goto a Lin PnR or BroLo post up as the bailout options.

Lin will thrive in this system as it lets him get the ball alot in good attack positions off timely passes. If he can stick his open outside shots it'll make his penetration game almost unstoppable as he'll guarantee a layout or kickout to a wide open shooter after he blowsby the 1st defender. In the end it all comes down to whether he's got his outside shot fixed yet.

Agree that Lin won't get too many assist which is fine, as long as the team does well...But I still believe they should be a middle ground there with Lin being allowed to get into a bit more PnR and this would allow him to pick whether to drive to the basket or pass it to whoever is open.

But as long as what Atkinson is working and Lin is scoring, there shouldn't be any issue.

This is just one pre-season game. Lin will get his assists trust me.

[Kswiss]

Agree that Lin won't get too many assist which is fine, as long as the team does well...But I still believe they should be a middle ground there with Lin being allowed to get into a bit more PnR and this would allow him to pick whether to drive to the basket or pass it to whoever is open.

But as long as what Atkinson is working and Lin is scoring, there shouldn't be any issue.

This is just one pre-season game. Lin will get his assists trust me.

That's true plus he only played 17 minutes normally he'd be closer to 35 so you could probably assume he'd average like 7 or 8 assists. He happened to be on fire shooting so it wasn't really necessary

[MrDollarBills]

What the other forums warned about will definitely happen here. Just keep in mind that it is only a couple of fans, and when you deal with them the board will remain on track.

Really looking forward to seeing what RHJ and Skil can do playing with Lin. AB, on the other hand, was sadly a disappointment. Looked very out of shape.

Please stop with the stereotyping, one guy's opinion doesn't represent everyone else.

It's only one preseason game, give them some time to build chemistry. Lin always plays according to what the defense gives him. They are giving him space to shoot, and he is on fire, so he took more shots. He only took 11 shots in total and made 8 of them, there should be no complaints on his shot selection either.

and with the motion offense, the assists are spread out between everyone anyways. As long as the ball is moving, try not to focus on any particular player's assist numbers.

I personally didn't see any issue with his opinion..He's just stating his observation and I'm not sure why MrDollarBills quickly jumped on his neck...There's other long time Nets fan who have worst opinion about Brook Lopez game which I don't understand

Brook is not a guy that rolls hard to the basket after setting a pick, so his teammates will have to sim[ply deal with that...as long as he scores enough when he's thrown the ball, the team should be okay.

Defensively, I felt like Brook was abit slow to defend the PnR...RHJ was definitely not good on D for the first quarter..They kept leaving open men free to take open 3's....Kenny will have to fix that for next game.

Saying "Brook is not a good compliment to Lin" after one preseason game is what set me off and fell in line with the warnings from other fans that were saying guys will be on here dogging other players and saying that they're holding Lin back or something, thats how i took that comment. Can we at least let them develop on court chemistry for more than 2 qtrs of play? And Brook has his way of playing, Lin has his, both of them were doing what the coach wanted. I saw no issue with how they played together on the floor, they were both scoring and attacking the defense. They are the team's two best players that's their job. You guys talk about Lopez like he's a scrub. He converted one 1 of his 2 3pters, went 3-5 2 rebs in 13 brief minutes. He looked good out there. That foul line catch, spin move to the rim was a thing of beauty. Lopez is the least of the team's concerns.

[cn0gd]

BroLo's rolling is too slow. He's actually a bad complement with Lin from the flashes ive seen so far. However if BroLo gets his 3pt shot down, it'll open the floor up for both players. Lin gets a clearer paint, BroLo gets more options on offense that the D has to respect.

oh boy, here we go. first preseason game in and exactly what the rocket and hornets fans were saying has already reared its head.

you do realize Lopez and Lin both function as the main attackers on this team? don't start this crap or it will be problem.

he is entitled to his own pinion it could be wrong or could be right but if you derail discussion from basketball to somewhere else, u recon u could become part of those crap?

[hood30]

Please stop with the stereotyping, one guy's opinion doesn't represent everyone else.

It's only one preseason game, give them some time to build chemistry. Lin always plays according to what the defense gives him. They are giving him space to shoot, and he is on fire, so he took more shots. He only took 11 shots in total and made 8 of them, there should be no complaints on his shot selection either.

and with the motion offense, the assists are spread out between everyone anyways. As long as the ball is moving, try not to focus on any particular player's assist numbers.

I personally didn't see any issue with his opinion..He's just stating his observation and I'm not sure why MrDollarBills quickly jumped on his neck...There's other long time Nets fan who have worst opinion about Brook Lopez game which I don't understand

Brook is not a guy that rolls hard to the basket after setting a pick, so his teammates will have to sim[ply deal with that...as long as he scores enough when he's thrown the ball, the team should be okay.

Defensively, I felt like Brook was abit slow to defend the PnR...RHJ was definitely not good on D for the first quarter..They kept leaving open men free to take open 3's....Kenny will have to fix that for next game.

Saying "Brook is not a good compliment to Lin" after one preseason game is what set me off and fell in line with the warnings from other fans that were saying guys will be on here dogging other players and saying that they're holding Lin back or something, thats how i took that comment. Can we at least let them develop on court chemistry for more than 2 qtrs of play? And Brook has his way of playing, Lin has his, both of them were doing what the coach wanted. I saw no issue with how they played together on the floor, they were both scoring and attacking the defense. They are the team's two best players that's their job. You guys talk about Lopez like he's a scrub. He converted one 1 of his 2 3pters, went 3-5 2 rebs in 13 brief minutes. He looked good out there. That foul line catch, spin move to the rim was a thing of beauty. Lopez is the least of the team's concerns.

I think you're getting too emotional based on 1 statement made by a guy who did not like what he saw....and it's annoying to other Lin fan when someone like you trying to generalize Lin fan with it as if it's already a big problem with Lin fan here....Speak to the guy and stop lumping all Lin fan together.

His statement is based on the fact that Lin does best with a PnR partner who rolls hard to the basket like Tyson Chandler and Ed Davis...I think Lin and Lopez will be fine, and they will figure it out but it simply won't look like Lin/tyson which is fine by me///As long as the team is doing okay and they did last night.

We frankly didn't see the 2 in enough PnR to get a good feel about how they will work and I'm looking forward to seeing more PnR with the 2...More high screen for Lin and dump it to Lopez for more assist...the 1 assist is the only blemish in Lin's stats but that was the product of the heavy motion offense.

We need to see a mixture of motion offense and a bit more Lin/Lopez PnR with Lopez plunging toward the basket.

[Paradise]

I can see where he's coming from with his option of Brook. He looked a little behind the curve but I think that's due to the fact, Lin was finding him on the perimeter. An area Brook is still learning to be comfortable in. Especially, behind the three point line. Brook's natural areas of the floor are usually in triple threat position.

Brook will look a lot better once we see more PnRs towards the paint instead of popping to the three point line. Brook looked a little hesitant out there only because this is really his first time behind encouraged to actually shoot threes. Over some time, I doubt it will be much of an issue.


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[hollandog]

so Lin the no 1 option now?

[MrDollarBills]

I personally didn't see any issue with his opinion..He's just stating his observation and I'm not sure why MrDollarBills quickly jumped on his neck...There's other long time Nets fan who have worst opinion about Brook Lopez game which I don't understand

Brook is not a guy that rolls hard to the basket after setting a pick, so his teammates will have to sim[ply deal with that...as long as he scores enough when he's thrown the ball, the team should be okay.

Defensively, I felt like Brook was abit slow to defend the PnR...RHJ was definitely not good on D for the first quarter..They kept leaving open men free to take open 3's....Kenny will have to fix that for next game.

Saying "Brook is not a good compliment to Lin" after one preseason game is what set me off and fell in line with the warnings from other fans that were saying guys will be on here dogging other players and saying that they're holding Lin back or something, thats how i took that comment. Can we at least let them develop on court chemistry for more than 2 qtrs of play? And Brook has his way of playing, Lin has his, both of them were doing what the coach wanted. I saw no issue with how they played together on the floor, they were both scoring and attacking the defense. They are the team's two best players that's their job. You guys talk about Lopez like he's a scrub. He converted one 1 of his 2 3pters, went 3-5 2 rebs in 13 brief minutes. He looked good out there. That foul line catch, spin move to the rim was a thing of beauty. Lopez is the least of the team's concerns.

I think you're getting too emotional based on 1 statement made by a guy who did not like what he saw....and it's annoying to other Lin fan when someone like you trying to generalize Lin fan with it as if it's already a big problem with Lin fan here....Speak to the guy and stop lumping all Lin fan together.

His statement is based on the fact that Lin does best with a PnR partner who rolls hard to the basket like Tyson Chandler and Ed Davis...I think Lin and Lopez will be fine, and they will figure it out but it simply won't look like Lin/tyson which is fine by me///As long as the team is doing okay and they did last night.

We frankly didn't see the 2 in enough PnR to get a good feel about how they will work and I'm looking forward to seeing more PnR with the 2...More high screen for Lin and dump it to Lopez for more assist...the 1 assist is the only blemish in Lin's stats but that was the product of the heavy motion offense.

We need to see a mixture of motion offense and a bit more Lin/Lopez PnR with Lopez plunging toward the basket.

He put his "assessment" together after 13 brief minutes of play, 2 or 3 or which Lin wasn't even on the court with him. Sounds like he was trying to dog Brook for the way he plays. He has his opinion, I have mine, and I think its way to early to even say something like that.

He's not a limited catch and dunk big man like Chandler and Davis, he actually has a plethora of skills to where after he picks he can catch the ball and either shoot or attack the defender facing up. The guys have to develop chemistry before we can even remotely say who is a better fit for who. this isn't a one way street here. You don't see anyone saying "Maybe Lin isn't a good compliment for Brook". When we get warned by multiple posters from other fanbases that says other players tend to get dogged, expect comments like that to be taken in a different way.

[MrDollarBills]

I can see where he's coming from with his option of Brook. He looked a little behind the curve but I think that's due to the fact, Lin was finding him on the perimeter. An area Brook is still learning to be comfortable in. Especially, behind the three point line. Brook's natural areas of the floor are usually in triple threat position.

Brook will look a lot better once we see more PnRs towards the paint instead of popping to the three point line. Brook looked a little hesitant out there only because this is really his first time behind encouraged to actually shoot threes. Over some time, I doubt it will be much of an issue.


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Outside of some hesitancy he was efficient. I'm not sure what there is to be critical about: 8 pts 2rebs 3-5 FG 1-2 3PT in 13 minutes. He had no regard for anyone on the Pistons interior defense on both of his scores going to the rim.

[Vae Victus]

Basically you're letting emotion and preconceived notions of "Lin Fans" getting the best of you in what you thought was an attack on BroLo, which in reality is an observation of play WE'VE SEEN SO FAR. BroLo not being a good complement with Lin doesnt mean he didnt play well or is a scrub, just that if he doesnt roll strong/often it doesnt take best advantage of Lin's best strength (hard penetration leading to layup or pass to someone wide open inside or outside). God forbid you get a situation like the Lakers 2 years ago where you get weakass high screens from Jordan Hill or Carlos Boozer who quickly slip out after barely grazing Lin's defender for a mid pop WITH ABSOLUTELY NO INTENTION OF EVER ROLLING and leaving Lin to get swarmed under in the paint all his passing lanes covered as there was zero off ball movement in the Byron "Tankmasta General" Scott old skool man-up offensive system. Note, am Laker fan from LA hence my intimacy of LAL utter putrid offensive system and watching some hardcore blatant tanking the past 2 years.

Guys dont look at it as an attack on us Lin fans, its no big deal. Those other types of "Lin fans" do it all the time where they go rabid attack dog on people who dare besmirch their "Lin God", so its understandable how others can get touchy. Although oftentimes the over the top "Lin fans" are usually Lin haters masquerading as Lin fans to rile up hate for Lin and his fanbase in general (it boggles my mind how those people go that far to hate on a player and his fans).

Just to be clear while i'm a huge Lin fan, i'm a basketball fan first and i call it how i see it and i'll critisize the hell out of any player i see fit with analysis and/or rationale backing it up. ESPECIALLY Lin since i'm a huge fan of his and always expect him to play up to his potential. In fact someone dubbed me on the CHA board as Lin's "Tiger Fan" (a play on the stereo-type asian Tiger-Mom) as i'd utterly tear the living **** out of Lin for any of his mistakes on a regular basis. I do not subscribe to the school of "knock other people down to make my boy look good", i'm part of the "my **** boy better play like a goddamn superhero to shut up the haters and if he falls short then he needs more kicks in the ass to get where he ought to be."

Worse case scenario if Atkinson doesnt see Brook-Lin PnR panning out as envisioned and BroLo able to stick the open 3 pretty well, we'll likely get a situation where early shot clock high PnR sets BroLo will be stationed at low opposite post waiting for the oop or low open feed off penetration, high post waiting for a mid kick open FT or secondary roll man/clean up crew, or 3pt line to space the floor more (my least favorite spot for a big as it takes them away from offensive rebounding duties, see Hill,Jordan 2015 when he fell in love with his patchy outside, shot his Oboarding which he was known for fell off a cliff, GOOD JOB BYRON!). Booker will be primary screen then hard to the bucket roll man. Now ideally both BroLo and Booker will be able to interchange on PnR AND both be able to space the from from a 33-36% 3pt clip, but we simply wont know how things will evolve until we get actual stats on em from shooting 3s in game time situation/pressure.

[hood30]

Saying "Brook is not a good compliment to Lin" after one preseason game is what set me off and fell in line with the warnings from other fans that were saying guys will be on here dogging other players and saying that they're holding Lin back or something, thats how i took that comment. Can we at least let them develop on court chemistry for more than 2 qtrs of play? And Brook has his way of playing, Lin has his, both of them were doing what the coach wanted. I saw no issue with how they played together on the floor, they were both scoring and attacking the defense. They are the team's two best players that's their job. You guys talk about Lopez like he's a scrub. He converted one 1 of his 2 3pters, went 3-5 2 rebs in 13 brief minutes. He looked good out there. That foul line catch, spin move to the rim was a thing of beauty. Lopez is the least of the team's concerns.

I think you're getting too emotional based on 1 statement made by a guy who did not like what he saw....and it's annoying to other Lin fan when someone like you trying to generalize Lin fan with it as if it's already a big problem with Lin fan here....Speak to the guy and stop lumping all Lin fan together.

His statement is based on the fact that Lin does best with a PnR partner who rolls hard to the basket like Tyson Chandler and Ed Davis...I think Lin and Lopez will be fine, and they will figure it out but it simply won't look like Lin/tyson which is fine by me///As long as the team is doing okay and they did last night.

We frankly didn't see the 2 in enough PnR to get a good feel about how they will work and I'm looking forward to seeing more PnR with the 2...More high screen for Lin and dump it to Lopez for more assist...the 1 assist is the only blemish in Lin's stats but that was the product of the heavy motion offense.

We need to see a mixture of motion offense and a bit more Lin/Lopez PnR with Lopez plunging toward the basket.

He put his "assessment" together after 13 brief minutes of play, 2 or 3 or which Lin wasn't even on the court with him. Sounds like he was trying to dog Brook for the way he plays. He has his opinion, I have mine, and I think its way to early to even say something like that.

He's not a limited catch and dunk big man like Chandler and Davis, he actually has a plethora of skills to where after he picks he can catch the ball and either shoot or attack the defender facing up. The guys have to develop chemistry before we can even remotely say who is a better fit for who. this isn't a one way street here. You don't see anyone saying "Maybe Lin isn't a good compliment for Brook". When we get warned by multiple posters from other fanbases that says other players tend to get dogged, expect comments like that to be taken in a different way.

Maybe you should wait until many Lin fan actually start blaming a specific Net player unfairly before going on a emotional rant and bashing Lin fan in general and than bring out the lame excuse of other fan-base telling you Lin fan are crazy...It feels like you're looking for this so you can trash Lin fan...so anyone making 1 comment criticizing a Net player will see you go on an emotion rant?

Again, 1 guy make a comment criticizing Lopez and all of a sudden, it's already a big deal?...How about you let the moderator deal with it...As far as I'm concern, it's no big deal at all..The guy don't like how Brook played..so what!!

Let me ask you a question?..Does a Lin fan have the right to criticize a player on this team??....There are 2 long time Nets fan on here who I get the sense HATES Brook Lopez's guts and wants him off the team...Should they get ban because they think Lopez is the problem on this team?.

I personally wasn't impressed by what I saw in Lopez last night offensively and defensively, but I understand that it was just 1 preseason game...I don't understand why the PnR with Brook was completely omitted from the play-calling...I'm hoping to see more Lopez on PnR next game.

In the main time, come down man and stop looking for fights against Lin fan, specially when it's just "1 guy"...No reason to bring up all this crazy talk and rumors you've heard from Lakers and Rockets fan...Every players and every team have their share of crazy fan..I see no problem whatsoever with Lin fan in general..At least, not yet..You're over reacting based on 1 guy's comment and need to chill out.

[Prius]

I just randomly came in here and saw some emotional dude get so worked up about what others say about others. I thought I came to a basketball forum not middle/high school. Lmao.

[Vae Victus]

Guys please drop it, im sure after reflection MrDollarBills understands where im coming from. That i wasnt

"BROLO SUCKS BALLS HE CANT PNR WORTH **** AND HE'LL BE HOLDING JLIN BACK!!!"

to

"I dont like it when BroLo pops out too far or rolls slowly. Its not a good complement/synergy/force mix with Lin's deep penetration, and its better for him and the team to be inside and dominate"

[bws94]

I don't know, it was a very limited amount of time for Brook on the court, not his usual minutes. It's preseason, he's trying some things on the perimeter. I saw Lin was sort of a 1/2 and Foye was making a lot of the interior passes, Lin only really made 2 I think. One could have been a dunk to RHJ and one he got the assist. Mostly, Lin was passing the ball out to the perimeter and in motion. Lin and Lopez are the best players, but the story seems to be about motion offense, and getting some polish to the young guys on the team. It's a good mix of veterans like Lopez, Lin, Scola, Foye and Vazquez with the young guys. Lin and Vazquez will drop dimes, they just have to learn more about the guys they are playing with and get more comfortable in the system.

[MrDollarBills]

I just randomly came in here and saw some emotional dude get so worked up about what others say about others. I thought I came to a basketball forum not middle/high school. Lmao.

^so you're one of the dudes that the rockets, lakers, and hornets fans we're talking about. way to live up to that stereotype.

don't call me emotional when you pathetically live vicariously through another man's life experiences.

you're not even a Nets fan. we know you don't give a **** about this team. that's why I'm defending Brook regardless of intent, because you can see how this is going to go.