Breaking: Kevin Durant has requested a trade; UPDATE: KD wants Sean Marks/Nash fired - Shams

[Tha King]

Phoenix deal sucks. I need a great blue chip prospect.

Bridges is not that.

Jayen Brown is an elite young talent who I want to build around.

If LAL gives us 2 picks and no Westbrick then I'm down. But very unlikely.

Keep Kyrie for now.

Curious to know what makes Brown elite?

He's been an all star just once and that may not change with KD, Tatum, Butler, Giannis, Siakam, etc. and Barnes, Mobley, Cade, etc. next up.

He can barely dribble or pass too so I think it would be difficult to build an offense around him.

Brown is a better scorer than Bridges but he's not a primary scorer either. Ultimately though, it's all about how you impact games and Bridges brings big time winning impact:

2021 On/Off:
Tatum: +13.8 (career: +8.8)
Bridges: +9.5 (+6.4)
Brown: +5.4 (+1.0)

Brown is better all things considered but it's close. Then you add it's four years of Bridges compared to 2 of Brown and you'd likely get a lot more from the Suns, etc.

I've seen Brown gets shots off in isolation that Bridges could never. We have to add a scorer to this roster in place of KD.

Brown is a 26/6/3 player on 47/36/76 and a plus defender. I'll take that and figure out what to do next.

For sure he's a better scorer but it's not like Brown is KD or anything. He's going into his seventh season giving you 24ppg on essentially league average efficiency (57% TS) with 31% usage! (KD was 31% last year). Maybe he can become a 28ppg scorer at league or below average efficiency on even more usage for two years but where is that leading?

Brown is not and very likely will never be a primary scorer on a title team but he may want to be a primary scorer. The handle and playmaking is not there and at this point in his career it's unlikely that changes. And tbh I couldn't care less about iso scoring anymore two of the best iso scorers ever are on this team and the offense is difficult to watch at times. If Brown is not a primary scorer on a contender, his meh iso ability is kinda irrelevant when building out a team because in a well functioning offense, you'd actually want your ancillary scorers to play off the ball more (i.e. Klay). At times that has been the issue for the Celtics offense (and with KD/Kyrie).

I'll also say Bridges (and Ayton) is underutilized in that Suns offense and has potential to be a 20ppg scorer. Bridges has flashed a midrange game and even some off the dribble scoring to where in a more expanded role where he isn't playing with ball dominant CP3/Booker, he could get close to 20ppg if not more while being a DPOY level wing.

When it comes to Brown/Bridges imo there is little difference between them as players in regards to overall impact. So then you must consider one is signed through 2023 while the other 2025. One has averaged 77 regular season games a season (Bridges) while the other has played 77 games once in his career. From a trade value standpoint, that is all very important. From a roster building standpoint without your own draft picks, even more so.

So for example, let's say you have a Celtics offer of Brown, White, and 1 pick while the Suns have Bridges, Cam Johnson, and 7 picks.

Brown (2yrs: UFA) - Bridges (4yrs): I'll say Brown has higher trade value but it's not far off

White (3yrs) - Cam Johnson (1yr: RFA)

7 picks (4 picks/3 swaps on a team led by CP3/KD) - 1 pick (on a team with Tatum who is on a different level than Booker)

Smart and more picks would make a difference but why would the Celtics consider that?

And finally, I am not sure about Brown and Simmons. Brown is apparently willing to leave a contending finals team because he's not the main player (which explains why the Celtics are even looking to trade him even though they could win it all without making any changes). This is something to keep in mind because Simmons has been the far better player and has a skillset you actually need to build a roster/offense around. Is that going to be an issue, where you're trading drama for some more?

[MagicBagley18]

Curious to know what makes Brown elite?

He's been an all star just once and that may not change with KD, Tatum, Butler, Giannis, Siakam, etc. and Barnes, Mobley, Cade, etc. next up.

He can barely dribble or pass too so I think it would be difficult to build an offense around him.

Brown is a better scorer than Bridges but he's not a primary scorer either. Ultimately though, it's all about how you impact games and Bridges brings big time winning impact:

2021 On/Off:
Tatum: +13.8 (career: +8.8)
Bridges: +9.5 (+6.4)
Brown: +5.4 (+1.0)

Brown is better all things considered but it's close. Then you add it's four years of Bridges compared to 2 of Brown and you'd likely get a lot more from the Suns, etc.

I've seen Brown gets shots off in isolation that Bridges could never. We have to add a scorer to this roster in place of KD.

Brown is a 26/6/3 player on 47/36/76 and a plus defender. I'll take that and figure out what to do next.

For sure he's a better scorer but it's not like Brown is KD or anything. He's going into his seventh season giving you 24ppg on essentially league average efficiency (57% TS) with 31% usage! (KD was 31% last year). Maybe he can become a 28ppg scorer at league or below average efficiency on even more usage for two years but where is that leading?

Brown is not and very likely will never be a primary scorer on a title team but he may want to be a primary scorer. The handle and playmaking is not there and at this point in his career it's unlikely that changes. And tbh I couldn't care less about iso scoring anymore two of the best iso scorers ever are on this team and the offense is difficult to watch at times. If Brown is not a primary scorer on a contender, his meh iso ability is kinda irrelevant when building out a team because in a well functioning offense, you'd actually want your ancillary scorers to play off the ball more (i.e. Klay). At times that has been the issue for the Celtics offense (and with KD/Kyrie).

I'll also say Bridges (and Ayton) is underutilized in that Suns offense and has potential to be a 20ppg scorer. Bridges has flashed a midrange game and even some off the dribble scoring to where in a more expanded role where he isn't playing with ball dominant CP3/Booker, he could get close to 20ppg if not more while being a DPOY level wing.

When it comes to Brown/Bridges imo there is little difference between them as players in regards to overall impact. So then you must consider one is signed through 2023 while the other 2025. One has averaged 77 regular season games a season (Bridges) while the other has played 77 games once in his career. From a trade value standpoint, that is all very important. From a roster building standpoint without your own draft picks, even more so.

So for example, let's say you have a Celtics offer of Brown, White, and 1 pick while the Suns have Bridges, Cam Johnson, and 7 picks.

Brown (2yrs: UFA) - Bridges (4yrs): I'll say Brown has higher trade value but it's not far off

White (3yrs) - Cam Johnson (1yr: RFA)

7 picks (4 picks/3 swaps on a team led by CP3/KD) - 1 pick (on a team with Tatum who is on a different level than Booker)

Smart and more picks would make a difference but why would the Celtics consider that?

And finally, I am not sure about Brown and Simmons. Brown is apparently willing to leave a contending finals team because he's not the main player (which explains why the Celtics are even looking to trade him even though they could win it all without making any changes). This is something to keep in mind because Simmons has been the far better player and has a skillset you actually need to build a roster/offense around. Is that going to be an issue, where you're trading drama for some more?

Brown isn’t looking to leave the Celtics. That’s why he tweeted smh and why every plugged in reporter on the Celtics who have heard from browns side since have said he’s happy and wants to stay in Boston. The Celtics trading for Durant is not about brown leaving - it’s about the Celtics thinking Durant paired with Tatum is an upgrade from brown and gets them over the hump.

That’s the main motivation for the deal. Now people can disagree on if it does make them that much better or not and that’s fine but it’s about them thinking they are making the team the bonafide favorite for a championship instead of a real contender.

[Tha King]

I've seen Brown gets shots off in isolation that Bridges could never. We have to add a scorer to this roster in place of KD.

Brown is a 26/6/3 player on 47/36/76 and a plus defender. I'll take that and figure out what to do next.

For sure he's a better scorer but it's not like Brown is KD or anything. He's going into his seventh season giving you 24ppg on essentially league average efficiency (57% TS) with 31% usage! (KD was 31% last year). Maybe he can become a 28ppg scorer at league or below average efficiency on even more usage for two years but where is that leading?

Brown is not and very likely will never be a primary scorer on a title team but he may want to be a primary scorer. The handle and playmaking is not there and at this point in his career it's unlikely that changes. And tbh I couldn't care less about iso scoring anymore two of the best iso scorers ever are on this team and the offense is difficult to watch at times. If Brown is not a primary scorer on a contender, his meh iso ability is kinda irrelevant when building out a team because in a well functioning offense, you'd actually want your ancillary scorers to play off the ball more (i.e. Klay). At times that has been the issue for the Celtics offense (and with KD/Kyrie).

I'll also say Bridges (and Ayton) is underutilized in that Suns offense and has potential to be a 20ppg scorer. Bridges has flashed a midrange game and even some off the dribble scoring to where in a more expanded role where he isn't playing with ball dominant CP3/Booker, he could get close to 20ppg if not more while being a DPOY level wing.

When it comes to Brown/Bridges imo there is little difference between them as players in regards to overall impact. So then you must consider one is signed through 2023 while the other 2025. One has averaged 77 regular season games a season (Bridges) while the other has played 77 games once in his career. From a trade value standpoint, that is all very important. From a roster building standpoint without your own draft picks, even more so.

So for example, let's say you have a Celtics offer of Brown, White, and 1 pick while the Suns have Bridges, Cam Johnson, and 7 picks.

Brown (2yrs: UFA) - Bridges (4yrs): I'll say Brown has higher trade value but it's not far off

White (3yrs) - Cam Johnson (1yr: RFA)

7 picks (4 picks/3 swaps on a team led by CP3/KD) - 1 pick (on a team with Tatum who is on a different level than Booker)

Smart and more picks would make a difference but why would the Celtics consider that?

And finally, I am not sure about Brown and Simmons. Brown is apparently willing to leave a contending finals team because he's not the main player (which explains why the Celtics are even looking to trade him even though they could win it all without making any changes). This is something to keep in mind because Simmons has been the far better player and has a skillset you actually need to build a roster/offense around. Is that going to be an issue, where you're trading drama for some more?

Brown isn’t looking to leave the Celtics. That’s why he tweeted smh and why every plugged in reporter on the Celtics who have heard from browns side since have said he’s happy and wants to stay in Boston. The Celtics trading for Durant is not about brown leaving - it’s about the Celtics thinking Durant paired with Tatum is an upgrade from brown and gets them over the hump.

That’s the main motivation for the deal. Now people can disagree on if it does make them that much better or not and that’s fine but it’s about them thinking they are making the team the bonafide favorite for a championship instead of a real contender.

Fair enough, but it wouldn't be a one for one trade. To likely get to the point where the Nets consider that resulting team could actually be worse while potentially shortening your contending years.

[MagicBagley18]

For sure he's a better scorer but it's not like Brown is KD or anything. He's going into his seventh season giving you 24ppg on essentially league average efficiency (57% TS) with 31% usage! (KD was 31% last year). Maybe he can become a 28ppg scorer at league or below average efficiency on even more usage for two years but where is that leading?

Brown is not and very likely will never be a primary scorer on a title team but he may want to be a primary scorer. The handle and playmaking is not there and at this point in his career it's unlikely that changes. And tbh I couldn't care less about iso scoring anymore two of the best iso scorers ever are on this team and the offense is difficult to watch at times. If Brown is not a primary scorer on a contender, his meh iso ability is kinda irrelevant when building out a team because in a well functioning offense, you'd actually want your ancillary scorers to play off the ball more (i.e. Klay). At times that has been the issue for the Celtics offense (and with KD/Kyrie).

I'll also say Bridges (and Ayton) is underutilized in that Suns offense and has potential to be a 20ppg scorer. Bridges has flashed a midrange game and even some off the dribble scoring to where in a more expanded role where he isn't playing with ball dominant CP3/Booker, he could get close to 20ppg if not more while being a DPOY level wing.

When it comes to Brown/Bridges imo there is little difference between them as players in regards to overall impact. So then you must consider one is signed through 2023 while the other 2025. One has averaged 77 regular season games a season (Bridges) while the other has played 77 games once in his career. From a trade value standpoint, that is all very important. From a roster building standpoint without your own draft picks, even more so.

So for example, let's say you have a Celtics offer of Brown, White, and 1 pick while the Suns have Bridges, Cam Johnson, and 7 picks.

Brown (2yrs: UFA) - Bridges (4yrs): I'll say Brown has higher trade value but it's not far off

White (3yrs) - Cam Johnson (1yr: RFA)

7 picks (4 picks/3 swaps on a team led by CP3/KD) - 1 pick (on a team with Tatum who is on a different level than Booker)

Smart and more picks would make a difference but why would the Celtics consider that?

And finally, I am not sure about Brown and Simmons. Brown is apparently willing to leave a contending finals team because he's not the main player (which explains why the Celtics are even looking to trade him even though they could win it all without making any changes). This is something to keep in mind because Simmons has been the far better player and has a skillset you actually need to build a roster/offense around. Is that going to be an issue, where you're trading drama for some more?

Brown isn’t looking to leave the Celtics. That’s why he tweeted smh and why every plugged in reporter on the Celtics who have heard from browns side since have said he’s happy and wants to stay in Boston. The Celtics trading for Durant is not about brown leaving - it’s about the Celtics thinking Durant paired with Tatum is an upgrade from brown and gets them over the hump.

That’s the main motivation for the deal. Now people can disagree on if it does make them that much better or not and that’s fine but it’s about them thinking they are making the team the bonafide favorite for a championship instead of a real contender.

Fair enough, but it wouldn't be a one for one trade. To likely get to the point where the Nets consider that resulting team could actually be worse while potentially shortening your contending years.

I don’t think the Celtics would/will go more than brown/white/grant picks.....they don’t have to. They like Durant. They don’t need Durant. Gives them the ability to walk away from the deal really at anytime.

[MrDollarBills]

Brown isn’t looking to leave the Celtics. That’s why he tweeted smh and why every plugged in reporter on the Celtics who have heard from browns side since have said he’s happy and wants to stay in Boston. The Celtics trading for Durant is not about brown leaving - it’s about the Celtics thinking Durant paired with Tatum is an upgrade from brown and gets them over the hump.

That’s the main motivation for the deal. Now people can disagree on if it does make them that much better or not and that’s fine but it’s about them thinking they are making the team the bonafide favorite for a championship instead of a real contender.

Fair enough, but it wouldn't be a one for one trade. To likely get to the point where the Nets consider that resulting team could actually be worse while potentially shortening your contending years.

I don’t think the Celtics would/will go more than brown/white/grant picks.....they don’t have to. They like Durant. They don’t need Durant. Gives them the ability to walk away from the deal really at anytime.

Basically. You already know my thoughts, I think Brad is out of his mind for even making an offer for Durant after everything that has transpired.

You guys literally made him sh*t himself on national television, now all of a sudden you wanna trade a good young player for him at age 34? Wouldn't be me, I'll tell you that much. You guys will mess around and trade for him and next thing you know he suffers an injury and misses a ton of time, like he has done every. season. he's. been. here. And that's on top of him being a headcase.

Think back to Golden State. They are a high character, high class organization. The only time you've ever seen them have internal issues is when, surprise, Durant was there and Draymond had to put him in his place. Now he came here with his buddy, pissed all over the carpets and suddenly wants out now that everything smells badly. He's going to compromise the Celtics in some shape or form, mark my words. It ain't just Kyrie who is cancerous.

Give me JB, GW, White or Pritchard and them picks you're selling buddy. I'll gladly make this trade without hesitation.

[MagicBagley18]

Fair enough, but it wouldn't be a one for one trade. To likely get to the point where the Nets consider that resulting team could actually be worse while potentially shortening your contending years.

I don’t think the Celtics would/will go more than brown/white/grant picks.....they don’t have to. They like Durant. They don’t need Durant. Gives them the ability to walk away from the deal really at anytime.

Basically. You already know my thoughts, I think Brad is out of his mind for even making an offer for Durant after everything that has transpired.

You guys literally made him sh*t himself on national television, now all of a sudden you wanna trade a good young player for him at age 34? Wouldn't be me, I'll tell you that much. You guys will mess around and trade for him and next thing you know he suffers an injury and misses a ton of time, like he has done every. season. he's. been. here. And that's on top of him being a headcase.

Think back to Golden State. They are a high character, high class organization. The only time you've ever seen them have internal issues is when, surprise, Durant was there and Draymond had to put him in his place. Now he came here with his buddy, pissed all over the carpets and suddenly wants out now that everything smells badly. He's going to compromise the Celtics in some shape or form, mark my words. It ain't just Kyrie who is cancerous.

Give me JB, GW, White or Pritchard and them picks you're selling buddy. I'll gladly make this trade without hesitation.

It would already been done if it was up to us. Injury is a true concern. Not worried about any of the other stuff tbh

[MrDollarBills]

I don’t think the Celtics would/will go more than brown/white/grant picks.....they don’t have to. They like Durant. They don’t need Durant. Gives them the ability to walk away from the deal really at anytime.

Basically. You already know my thoughts, I think Brad is out of his mind for even making an offer for Durant after everything that has transpired.

You guys literally made him sh*t himself on national television, now all of a sudden you wanna trade a good young player for him at age 34? Wouldn't be me, I'll tell you that much. You guys will mess around and trade for him and next thing you know he suffers an injury and misses a ton of time, like he has done every. season. he's. been. here. And that's on top of him being a headcase.

Think back to Golden State. They are a high character, high class organization. The only time you've ever seen them have internal issues is when, surprise, Durant was there and Draymond had to put him in his place. Now he came here with his buddy, pissed all over the carpets and suddenly wants out now that everything smells badly. He's going to compromise the Celtics in some shape or form, mark my words. It ain't just Kyrie who is cancerous.

Give me JB, GW, White or Pritchard and them picks you're selling buddy. I'll gladly make this trade without hesitation.

It would already been done if it was up to us. Injury is a true concern. Not worried about any of the other stuff tbh

That's fair.

I'm saying this as a solid to Celtics fans. Yall warned us about Kyrie and we thought you guys were a bunch of haters, but no. You were being 100% honest. Same thing here with me to you about KD lol.

[MagicBagley18]

Basically. You already know my thoughts, I think Brad is out of his mind for even making an offer for Durant after everything that has transpired.

You guys literally made him sh*t himself on national television, now all of a sudden you wanna trade a good young player for him at age 34? Wouldn't be me, I'll tell you that much. You guys will mess around and trade for him and next thing you know he suffers an injury and misses a ton of time, like he has done every. season. he's. been. here. And that's on top of him being a headcase.

Think back to Golden State. They are a high character, high class organization. The only time you've ever seen them have internal issues is when, surprise, Durant was there and Draymond had to put him in his place. Now he came here with his buddy, pissed all over the carpets and suddenly wants out now that everything smells badly. He's going to compromise the Celtics in some shape or form, mark my words. It ain't just Kyrie who is cancerous.

Give me JB, GW, White or Pritchard and them picks you're selling buddy. I'll gladly make this trade without hesitation.

It would already been done if it was up to us. Injury is a true concern. Not worried about any of the other stuff tbh

That's fair.

I'm saying this as a solid to Celtics fans. Yall warned us about Kyrie and we thought you guys were a bunch of haters, but no. You were being 100% honest. Same thing here with me to you about KD lol.

No problem. We can agree to disagree. I’m not saying KD doesn’t have diva tendencies, I’m not saying he doesn’t have rabbit ears in terms of media and with Twitter fingers and I know all superstars are high maintenance to some extent. He deserves some blame for how things played out in Brooklyn, sure.

I just think that most of the issues for you guys here in Brooklyn stem from kyrie. He’s not all to blame but when he’s in an organization he’s so draining as a personality there’s residual effects everywhere else. He constantly brings headlines and distractions to other member of the team - whether about his shoe deal or vax status or something he said about the coach/staff or another player to the media and then guys like KD and harden or others have to answer for it . It’s just a toxic culture.

That makes a guy like KD moody and unhappy having to answer questions all the time that are nothing about basketball. Just distractions. I just think you guys enabled KD and kyrie way too much. Not saying you were wrong for it at the time because it did land you 2 superstars and I’m not saying Boston or another place wouldn’t have but I’m not really worried about Durant in that regard.

Injury? Yes real concern. His age? Yup. But I think we have a pretty good infrastructure and coach here who can keep him happy. I think there will be way way less distractions than in Brooklyn when he’s away from kyrie. Not many issues in okc and not enough in golden state to stop them from winning 2 rings. I think he’s a guy who just wants to play basketball and it became about everything else but that in Brooklyn.

[Tha King]

1) Celtics are a championship contender the next four seasons with KD and win a title as he's FMVP
2) After two seasons, Brown goes elsewhere as a FA leaving the Nets with...Grant Williams and late round picks for Kevin Durant (who you traded while he was signed for four years)

There are many outcomes that could play out for sure but Is there even the slightest possibility of the above happening? There is, and KD sitting out the next four seasons would be a better outcome.

I don't know, I don't think you can make a trade with the Celtics.

[MrDollarBills]

just think you guys enabled KD and kyrie way too much.

Without a doubt. Which is an indictment on our GM and owner. They play a role in this as well.

Marks let KD and Kyrie come in and rip apart everything that he built. Kyrie carries a lot of the blame, but make no mistake, KD played his part too, and the moment when the Nets said enough, he suddenly wanted to take his ball and go home a year removed from signing an extension.

Good luck to yall, but believe me, KD isn't the innocent bystander you may think he is, and to our failing, we didn't have the infrastructure or leadership in place like a Golden State did to keep him check, we don't have an impeccable leader like Steph, a great coach like Kerr, or a locker room leader like Draymond that would get in his face when he got out of pocket. Also, he was the one who enabled Kyrie to basically set fire to our season, because believe me if KD had put his foot down Kyrie would have been gone a year ago.

[MagicBagley18]

just think you guys enabled KD and kyrie way too much.

Without a doubt. Which is an indictment on our GM and owner. They play a role in this as well.

Marks let KD and Kyrie come in and rip apart everything that he built. Kyrie carries a lot of the blame, but make no mistake, KD played his part too, and the moment when the Nets said enough, he suddenly wanted to take his ball and go home a year removed from signing an extension.

Good luck to yall, but believe me, KD isn't the innocent bystander you may think he is, and to our failing, we didn't have the infrastructure or leadership in place like a Golden State did to keep him check, we don't have an impeccable leader like Steph, a great coach like Kerr, or a locker room leader like Draymond that would get in his face when he got out of pocket. Also, he was the one who enabled Kyrie to basically set fire to our season, because believe me if KD had put his foot down Kyrie would have been gone a year ago.

Oh yeah he definitely deserves blame. Willing to take that risk tho. It’s way down the list on my concerns tbh. Likely we won’t ever find out - still not convinced you guys trade.

[MrDollarBills]

Zach Lowe is saying that Durant hasn't even given the Nets a reason behind his trade request.

[Netaman]

Zach Lowe is saying that Durant hasn't even given the Nets a reason behind his trade request.

lol. here's my theory, most of the emotion behind his request is frustration at his own play vs. Boston. which I think was similarly the case with Harden. both are used to being MVP's on the court not whipping boys for their own bad play as the main reason their team's lost.

when KD went down Harden was front and center unable to lead the team at all. yes Kyrie was also a factor but if Harden led the nets to a 20-10 record without KD there would have been no trade request.

same is true if KD had done his job and they advanced past Boston.

"KD losing faith in management" was actually "KD losing faith in KD". And management asserting more control bc they were losing faith in KD/Kyrie.

now we find out if his commitment to the self own is as strong as Harden's because he undeniably put himself in a worse situation. if KD forces the issue it's very possible he too makes that mistake.

[Netaman]

Stole this from the trade board - this is actually a really good proposal. The Pels were 1 of the teams that made the Nets an offer for Cam so he could be another piece they get to get this over the finish line.

To Heat: KD + JVal + Sumner
May not want to move Bam, but can’t say no to KD with a JVal backfill.

To Lakers: Irving + Buddy
Get James his buddy and a Buddy.

To Pacers: Westbrook + THT + 2x Lakers 1sts
Buyout Westbrook, while taking THT flyer plus multiple 1sts.

To Pelicans: Bam + Robinson
Upgrade to Bam as bigman next to Zion.

To Nets: Turner + Ingram + Herro + 2x Heat 1sts + 27M TPE
Get everything they want and more for moving KD and Irving…young but competitive team who fits around Simmons.

Simmons/Ingram/Herro is a decent group in terms of mixing skill sets and all in the right age range (22-26).

Turner/Claxton are a decent enough C combo with a good mix of skills.

O'Neale/Harris/Curry/Warren/Patty would round out a solid 10 man rotation and again all fit around Simmons because they can shoot. Sumner Kessler and Sharpe the next 3 up, then fill the final 2 with Duke/Williams.

if everything gels it's a fringe playoff team with the heat picks hopefully holding value a few years down the road. If not you probably try to sell off Turner and Curry at the deadline for some more FRP's while getting our first lotto pick in like a decade lol.

[MrDollarBills]

Stole this from the trade board - this is actually a really good proposal. The Pels were 1 of the teams that made the Nets an offer for Cam so he could be another piece they get to get this over the finish line.

To Heat: KD + JVal + Sumner
May not want to move Bam, but can’t say no to KD with a JVal backfill.

To Lakers: Irving + Buddy
Get James his buddy and a Buddy.

To Pacers: Westbrook + THT + 2x Lakers 1sts
Buyout Westbrook, while taking THT flyer plus multiple 1sts.

To Pelicans: Bam + Robinson
Upgrade to Bam as bigman next to Zion.

To Nets: Turner + Ingram + Herro + 2x Heat 1sts + 27M TPE
Get everything they want and more for moving KD and Irving…young but competitive team who fits around Simmons.

Simmons/Ingram/Herro is a decent group in terms of mixing skill sets and all in the right age range (22-26).

Turner/Claxton are a decent enough C combo with a good mix of skills.

O'Neale/Harris/Curry/Warren/Patty would round out a solid 10 man rotation and again all fit around Simmons because they can shoot. Sumner Kessler and Sharpe the next 3 up, then fill the final 2 with Duke/Williams.

if everything gels it's a fringe playoff team with the heat picks hopefully holding value a few years down the road. If not you probably try to sell off Turner and Curry at the deadline for some more FRP's while getting our first lotto pick in like a decade lol.

I would take that trade, I don't see why New Orleans would do it though

[MrDollarBills]

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This is a great article that explains exactly why Durant killed his own trade value:

I have not heard that enough in all of this,” one NBA front-office executive said. “I have seen Kyrie Irving get blamed, I have seen Sean Marks get blamed, Covid get blamed, Steve Nash, Joe Tsai, everyone involved in any of this has been taking the blame. But I have not seen Kevin Durant get the blame and that is where it should go. Who drops a trade request a week after the draft? Who drops it a couple hours before the start of free agency?

Durant didn't even think it through. He got butthurt over people roasting him after Golden State won the title and immediately wanted a trade to the two #1 seeds in the east and west.

He's a f*cking bitch.

[3pt_chucker]

Stole this from the trade board - this is actually a really good proposal. The Pels were 1 of the teams that made the Nets an offer for Cam so he could be another piece they get to get this over the finish line.

To Heat: KD + JVal + Sumner
May not want to move Bam, but can’t say no to KD with a JVal backfill.

To Lakers: Irving + Buddy
Get James his buddy and a Buddy.

To Pacers: Westbrook + THT + 2x Lakers 1sts
Buyout Westbrook, while taking THT flyer plus multiple 1sts.

To Pelicans: Bam + Robinson
Upgrade to Bam as bigman next to Zion.

To Nets: Turner + Ingram + Herro + 2x Heat 1sts + 27M TPE
Get everything they want and more for moving KD and Irving…young but competitive team who fits around Simmons.

Simmons/Ingram/Herro is a decent group in terms of mixing skill sets and all in the right age range (22-26).

Turner/Claxton are a decent enough C combo with a good mix of skills.

O'Neale/Harris/Curry/Warren/Patty would round out a solid 10 man rotation and again all fit around Simmons because they can shoot. Sumner Kessler and Sharpe the next 3 up, then fill the final 2 with Duke/Williams.

if everything gels it's a fringe playoff team with the heat picks hopefully holding value a few years down the road. If not you probably try to sell off Turner and Curry at the deadline for some more FRP's while getting our first lotto pick in like a decade lol.

I'm quite high on Ingram, so I like this trade. Only worry is that Turner is due for another contract and both Ingram and Herro aren't historically plus defenders. However both are great fits next to Simmons.

I also think the Nets would want 1 of those Lakers picks because Miami 1sts are almost always late round picks.The future Lakers 1st have a higher chance to bee good IMO. Maybe send 1 of the Miami picks to Indy and have 1 MIA and 1 Lakers pick. Would also ask for a couple seconds but that's just haggling

[Netaman]

I would take that trade, I don't see why New Orleans would do it though

my initial reaction was similar which is why i felt NO may need more incentive to do it, but i do think Bam is so good all around that his ability to defensively anchor a team may be more important than everything Ingram brings since they already have Zion and CJM.

Bam and Herb give them a real defensive foundation around their 2 scores, add in Robinson and maybe a Strus and they've got some really good shooters to spread the floor, and they were a team that supposedly sent us an offer for Cam. Maybe im talking myself into it but I think it's one of the better proposals ive seen.

btw if there was no rookie extension rule and we had the choice between taking Bam and cutting out the Pels or Ingram, im not positive which one I'd take, but i might actually lean Bam. He's an all defense center who is switchable, can pass, and knocks down shots even if he cant stretch to 3. he is the closest thing to Horford since Horford.

[NetsWorld]

I have given up on KD the same way he gave up on the team against the Celtics; thank you to Mike James for leaking that KD was a quitter. KD never wanted to pour his heart out and win games for the team. This mofo told Mike James before the Playoffs started that he was going over seas to see him play because, "THEY WERE FITTING TO LOSE". This mofo has to go; get guys with the dog mentality. If no one believes me, the leak is on twitter, some of the tweets were deleted so catch it while you can. KD and his party scapegoated the Nets FO and now we know who the real problem is.

[MrDollarBills]

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I told yall KD is a bitch.