Official Caris LeVert Thread

bws94 · Post #1101 » by **bws94** » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:02 pm

Claud wrote:CLV reminds me of last year's RHJ. Out of control, all over the place but still hustling and competing on D.

I think his shooting slump has rocked his confidence which is affecting his overall offensive game.

Another important factor is that when we closed last season strong Brook was a huge threat from 3 which opened up the lanes for our slashers. This year we have very little good shooting from our bigs. Acy is the only one you would consider "decent" at least.

Just like last year with RHJ we need to let Caris play and make mistakes... ultimately this experience will help him grow as a player.

I'm not worried about him. This was expected. He'll get into a good flow sometime during the season. He doesn't hang his head, it's up and he's trying on D and on O. That's all I need to see. He'll be ok.

Paradise · Post #1102 » by **Paradise** » Sat Nov 4, 2017 3:47 pm

7 Points, 4 Rebounds, 2 Assists on 2-10 FG, 1-5 3PT, -8 on the floor. Fell asleep countless times on D.

Not good. I’m also perplexed by this long leash for him. I get he’s learning but he’s also 23 and a seasoned college athlete. Some of these mistakes aren’t getting fixed. It’s getting worse.

His D is always solid on the ball but he’s not very good at defending the PnR. I saw him go over the screens and watched Lonzo get by him quite often and that’s an IQ thing.

kamaze · Post #1103 » by **kamaze** » Sat Nov 4, 2017 5:39 pm

He's starting his 2nd year off slow I think he'd be better suited coming off the bench he puts up bench player numbers.

bws94 · Post #1104 » by **bws94** » Sat Nov 4, 2017 5:49 pm

I'm not worried about CLV. Yes, he probably shouldn't start but he wasn't supposed to start this season. So KA has to think about that.

I think he's suffering a hard sophomore jinx but he'll get out of it in time. He has the tools. But the toolbox has them out of order. He just has to let the game come to him. The shots will fall, he'll finish around the rim, and his passing game will become sharper. Fine points of D is usually a problem with young players. Film time.

He's one of my favorite players on the team. I enjoy watching him, RHJ and Dinwiddie the most on the team. Yes, he's tougher to watch now, but he'll be alright long-term.

PG13 · Post #1105 » by **PG13** » Sat Nov 4, 2017 6:00 pm

LeVert is essentially a rookie. He missed the first 20+ games of last season. It’s understandable that he’s inconsistent. He’s only 23, got good length, good work ethics, good character, and the right altitude. I think his present struggle is partly due to insufficient/lack of mentoring. The lost of Lin at the start of the season threw KA’s plan down the toilet. The whole team is adjusting. KA’s hands are full. The Nets need more KA’s to babysit the young guys 1-on-1, much like how KA helped develop Lin before he broke out. BTW, Lin didn’t break out until he was 24. Be patient with LeVert, it’ll pay off. Having Lin near the team in three months will help. The young guys could use his leadership and mentoring.

Karate Diop · Post #1106 » by **Karate Diop** » Sat Nov 4, 2017 7:25 pm

Paradise wrote:7 Points, 4 Rebounds, 2 Assists on 2-10 FG, 1-5 3PT, -8 on the floor. Fell asleep countless times on D.

Not good. I’m also perplexed by this long leash for him. I get he’s learning but he’s also 23 and a seasoned college athlete. Some of these mistakes aren’t getting fixed. It’s getting worse.

His D is always solid on the ball but he’s not very good at defending the PnR. I saw him go over the screens and watched Lonzo get by him quite often and that’s an IQ thing.

Whoa. Time out.

Lonzo didn't get past anyone all game long, he was complete trash.

Netaman · Post #1107 » by **Netaman** » Sat Nov 4, 2017 7:58 pm

The talent is still there but still a very long way to go before he establishes himself. There's a long list of rookies who have looked good in their first year and then not progressed as their fans may have hoped. Many have 2nd year slumps. Atkinson needs to find a way to snap him out of this funk. Letting him play through it as a starter isn't working.

MGrand15 · Post #1108 » by **MGrand15** » Sat Nov 4, 2017 8:05 pm

Still not worried about LeVert. He's taking mostly good shots, they're just not falling. Idk if it'll be with the starters but I expect him to slow down and hit his stride soon.

Ror1997 · Post #1109 » by **Ror1997** » Sat Nov 4, 2017 8:09 pm

Sophomore Slump. Its all good.

Paradise · Post #1110 » by **Paradise** » Sat Nov 4, 2017 11:04 pm

Karate Diop wrote:
Paradise wrote:7 Points, 4 Rebounds, 2 Assists on 2-10 FG, 1-5 3PT, -8 on the floor. Fell asleep countless times on D.

Not good. I’m also perplexed by this long leash for him. I get he’s learning but he’s also 23 and a seasoned college athlete. Some of these mistakes aren’t getting fixed. It’s getting worse.

His D is always solid on the ball but he’s not very good at defending the PnR. I saw him go over the screens and watched Lonzo get by him quite often and that’s an IQ thing.

Whoa. Time out.

Lonzo didn't get past anyone all game long, he was complete trash.

Watch

1:10 - 1:18

Watch on YouTube

Ball doesn’t have to shoot well for a guy to play poor defense on him. He’s trying to get to the paint.

I’ll gladly post the full game highlights and pin point the other mistakes but he was flat out not showing high IQ out there on both ends. That has nothing to do with a slump. He’s got a lot of work to do.

Paradise · Post #1111 » by **Paradise** » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:39 pm

Watch on YouTube

Paradise · Post #1112 » by **Paradise** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:58 pm

13 Pts, 4 Rebs, 4 Asts, 2 Stls

Watch on YouTube

Post #1113 » by **CalamityX12** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:14 pm

Starting to think Caris is a complimentary #3 guy on the team....

shakendfries · Post #1114 » by **shakendfries** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:43 pm

CalamityX12 wrote:Starting to think Caris is a complimentary #3 guy on the team....

correct me if I'm wrong, but if I recall correctly Paul George was the complimentary #3 guy till Danny Granger went down

if DLo & Din are our starting backcourt, Crabbe & LeVert will have to battle it out at the #3

TinmanZBoy · Post #1115 » by **TinmanZBoy** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:45 pm

i am still looking for the smoothness of LeVert's game... he was so smooth last season, this season he has been anything but smooth, so weird... it seems he did a brain transplantation during off-season

Post #1116 » by **CalamityX12** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:19 pm

shakendfries wrote:
CalamityX12 wrote:Starting to think Caris is a complimentary #3 guy on the team....

correct me if I'm wrong, but if I recall correctly Paul George was the complimentary #3 guy till Danny Granger went down

if DLo & Din are our starting backcourt, Crabbe & LeVert will have to battle it out at the #3

to clarify, i'm not saying it as bad connotation to it.

PG was #3 to who? I had PG over Hibbert back in those days.

OHHH i didn't mean at the 3 spot/SF... i meant it as a #3 guy on the team. Caris may be good to great at a #3 role on the team with DLo at #2. Again, nothing negative about it.

TheBrooklynKidd · Post #1117 » by **TheBrooklynKidd** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:25 pm

CalamityX12 wrote:
shakendfries wrote:
CalamityX12 wrote:Starting to think Caris is a complimentary #3 guy on the team....

correct me if I'm wrong, but if I recall correctly Paul George was the complimentary #3 guy till Danny Granger went down

if DLo & Din are our starting backcourt, Crabbe & LeVert will have to battle it out at the #3

to clarify, i'm not saying it as bad connotation to it.

PG was #3 to who? I had PG over Hibbert back in those days.

OHHH i didn't mean at the 3 spot/SF... i meant it as a #3 guy on the team. Caris may be good to great at a #3 role on the team with DLo at #2. Again, nothing negative about it.

In Georges first 2 seasons he was a 3rd option at best. Collison, Granger and Hibbert were all more involved than he was and even David West or George Hill were featured on certain nights. People forget just how deep those teams were when Granger was in his prime.

Post #1118 » by **CalamityX12** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:08 pm

TheBrooklynKidd wrote:
CalamityX12 wrote:
shakendfries wrote:
correct me if I'm wrong, but if I recall correctly Paul George was the complimentary #3 guy till Danny Granger went down

if DLo & Din are our starting backcourt, Crabbe & LeVert will have to battle it out at the #3

to clarify, i'm not saying it as bad connotation to it.

PG was #3 to who? I had PG over Hibbert back in those days.

OHHH i didn't mean at the 3 spot/SF... i meant it as a #3 guy on the team. Caris may be good to great at a #3 role on the team with DLo at #2. Again, nothing negative about it.

In Georges first 2 seasons he was a 3rd option at best. Collison, Granger and Hibbert were all more involved than he was and even David West or George Hill were featured on certain nights. People forget just how deep those teams were when Granger was in his prime.

PG was more suitable to evolve/grow into that primary role.

I'm not sure Caris has that ability. Right now he doesn't, it'll take time but I don't see PG potential there anymore. He has plenty of time to change and improve but right now, I'm seeing a solid picture of Caris.

shakendfries · Post #1119 » by **shakendfries** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:18 pm

TheBrooklynKidd wrote:
CalamityX12 wrote:
shakendfries wrote:
correct me if I'm wrong, but if I recall correctly Paul George was the complimentary #3 guy till Danny Granger went down

if DLo & Din are our starting backcourt, Crabbe & LeVert will have to battle it out at the #3

to clarify, i'm not saying it as bad connotation to it.

PG was #3 to who? I had PG over Hibbert back in those days.

OHHH i didn't mean at the 3 spot/SF... i meant it as a #3 guy on the team. Caris may be good to great at a #3 role on the team with DLo at #2. Again, nothing negative about it.

In Georges first 2 seasons he was a 3rd option at best. Collison, Granger and Hibbert were all more involved than he was and even David West or George Hill were featured on certain nights. People forget just how deep those teams were when Granger was in his prime.

competition is a good thing

MGrand15 · Post #1120 » by **MGrand15** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:26 pm

Levert's main issue is him missing wide open shots. That's the only thing I'm worried about. Needs his confidence back.

The other stuff is normal young player stuff. He went from a 3rd or 4th option last year - playing next to 2 stablizing vets in Lin and Brook to jumping up to option 1 or 2. And he was asked by the coaching staff to be aggressive. Trying to balance that while shooting 20% outside of the paint is rough.

Even now, he's essentially playing back up PG. Not exactly what he's suited for but something that'll help him develop in the long run.