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Re: The Official Lin Net Thread 

Post#1121 » by Prokorov » Sun Oct 9, 2016 1:09 pm

hood30 wrote:
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Prokorov wrote:I was happy with what i saw in the preseason game from:

1) Lin

2) Lin fans

Lin was super aggressive. i hope that doesnt change. the assists will come, great but i want him to lead us in scoring and FGA. we dont have another guy who is really capabale of getting to the rim consistently. he should easily get 20 ppg with the volume he will get.

Lin fans were good. only 1 guy (criticized atkinson for taking on lin after 6 minutes of the first quarter) was an issue. guys were excited for lin and the nets without turning it into a crap show.

You meant Hood right? That guy didn't understand this is the preseason, and with the Motion Offense we are instituting, it is all about keeping the legs fresh and "progress".


So playing guys 15-17mpg during preseason will somehow hurt them or get them too tired for the regular season?.

You also need to understand that preseason is also used to build chemistry, specially if everybody believe you have no talent...No one said Lin or Lopez should play 30 minutes, so please, do not try to put up a lame straw-man argument while bringing my name up.

I personally believe teams like the Nets who have so much to work on, can not afford to play guys like Brook Lopez 10minutes and resting Lin..Not saying he should play even 25, but play him every games so he can get an idea of how his teammates plays and the new system.

I have no problem not playing guys like Lebron, Curry, Kyrie and other super-stars during preseason or playing them very little minutes..You already know what you will get from them and they already know the system....Not so for Lin, Bogs, Booker, RHJ and even Lopez who will be under a new system and is expected to shoot 3's...They need time and minute to gell, unlike the Cavs and the Warriors.

Under a bad team with no talent, I'm a strong proponent of using these valuable preseason minutes to get them to gel before real season starts.

That's my beliefs..I understand you have yours which is to rest as many guys as possible and not take these preseason game that seriously....

We haven't even seen how Brook and Lin looks as PnR partners or are they even compatible together...I have no idea so far...but there's still 4 more games left..Let's hope Atkinson will let Lopez play more than 15 minutes.

Let's hope Brook will be playing at least 20mpg during the last 4 games and no more rest game for Lin...

Unlike many of you, I actually believe these preseason games are very important to fix the projected starting 5 and see whether guys like Booker or Bogs belongs in it...So far, we havent seen the Lin/Bogs/RHJ/Booker/Lopez starting 5...

Portzingis played 27minutes the first game and 19 the second game..Melo had similar minutes in the previous 2 games..I'm sure both will not play the final games which it a ritual for most teams, but the idea is to give these guys enough minutes to gell.

I simply don't agree with the other way around which is to take it very easy on these players..At least not a bad team that could use chemistry because of lack of talent.


we arent some team ready for a deep playoff run... this entire season is about building that chemistry. not making sure you get your starters playing time so they can gel for a 40-50 win season. this is a development year
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Re: The Official Lin Net Thread 

Post#1122 » by hood30 » Sun Oct 9, 2016 1:26 pm

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Lorenzomax7 wrote:You meant Hood right? That guy didn't understand this is the preseason, and with the Motion Offense we are instituting, it is all about keeping the legs fresh and "progress".


So playing guys 15-17mpg during preseason will somehow hurt them or get them too tired for the regular season?.

You also need to understand that preseason is also used to build chemistry, specially if everybody believe you have no talent...No one said Lin or Lopez should play 30 minutes, so please, do not try to put up a lame straw-man argument while bringing my name up.

I personally believe teams like the Nets who have so much to work on, can not afford to play guys like Brook Lopez 10minutes and resting Lin..Not saying he should play even 25, but play him every games so he can get an idea of how his teammates plays and the new system.

I have no problem not playing guys like Lebron, Curry, Kyrie and other super-stars during preseason or playing them very little minutes..You already know what you will get from them and they already know the system....Not so for Lin, Bogs, Booker, RHJ and even Lopez who will be under a new system and is expected to shoot 3's...They need time and minute to gell, unlike the Cavs and the Warriors.

Under a bad team with no talent, I'm a strong proponent of using these valuable preseason minutes to get them to gel before real season starts.

That's my beliefs..I understand you have yours which is to rest as many guys as possible and not take these preseason game that seriously....

We haven't even seen how Brook and Lin looks as PnR partners or are they even compatible together...I have no idea so far...but there's still 4 more games left..Let's hope Atkinson will let Lopez play more than 15 minutes.

Let's hope Brook will be playing at least 20mpg during the last 4 games and no more rest game for Lin...

Unlike many of you, I actually believe these preseason games are very important to fix the projected starting 5 and see whether guys like Booker or Bogs belongs in it...So far, we havent seen the Lin/Bogs/RHJ/Booker/Lopez starting 5...

Portzingis played 27minutes the first game and 19 the second game..Melo had similar minutes in the previous 2 games..I'm sure both will not play the final games which it a ritual for most teams, but the idea is to give these guys enough minutes to gell.

I simply don't agree with the other way around which is to take it very easy on these players..At least not a bad team that could use chemistry because of lack of talent.


we arent some team ready for a deep playoff run... this entire season is about building that chemistry. not making sure you get your starters playing time so they can gel for a 40-50 win season. this is a development year



Well, if it's the case, then fine...but as a Lin fan, you're rooting for the Nets to actually make an attempt to win as many games as possible...I just bough NBA League pass for $200 so I could watch the Nets, and I'm hoping they will not tank since they have no draft picks to fall on.

I understand that you, personally, doesn't think much of the current roster and feel that the Nets should not prioritize winning games, but I'm not sure whether it should go as far as to not try to build chemistry and understanding among your projected starting 5.

Also, I'd like to think Atkinson will make a strong attempt to win games...But hey, if he doesn't care about actually winning games this year and simply wants to develop players for the future, than you have a point.

That makes more sense to me when it comes to only playing Brook Lopez 12mpg and resting Lin...If Kenny really wants to win as many games as possible, he would try to build chemistry by giving his key players at least 20mpg for these preseason games so they can build familiarity among each other...Everybody does that, unless you're a top 5-10 team.
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Re: The Official Lin Net Thread 

Post#1123 » by Prokorov » Sun Oct 9, 2016 1:40 pm

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Well, if it's the case, than fine...but as a Lin fan, you're rooting for the Nets to actually make an attempt to win as many games as possible...I just bough NBA League pass for $200 so I could watch the Nets, and I'm hoping they will not tank since they have no draft picks to fall on.


Thats all well and good. but if you come in to games threads criticizing the coach for not playing lin enough its going to get ugly. this is a nets forum, not a lin forum. that stuff belongs here, not in the game threads.

Nets wont tank, but there is also no incentive to try and win as many games if that means sacraficing development to play your vets as much as possible.

I understand that you, personally, doesn't think much of the current roster and feel that the Nets should not prioritize winning games, but I'm not sure whether it should go as far as to not try to build chemistry and understanding among your projected starting 5.


we have 82 games to build chemistry.

Also, I'd like to think Atkinson will make a strong attempt to win games...But hey, if he doesn't care about actually winning games this year and simply wants to develop players for the future, than you have a point.

That makes more sense to me when it comes to only playing Brook Lopez 12mpg and resting Lin...If Kenny really wants to win as many games as possible, he would try to build chemistry by giving his key players at least 20mpg...Everybody does that, unless you're a top 5-10 team.


again, we have 82 games to build chemistry. kenny will try to win as many games as possible while still focusing on development as the #1 priority.

lin playing less then 20 minutes is beyond irrelevant. its irrelevant to kenny its irrelevant to lin and its irrelevant to nets fans. only lin fans care about something so irrelevant.
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Re: The Official Lin Net Thread 

Post#1124 » by TTNN » Sun Oct 9, 2016 1:53 pm

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instead of fitting a squar epeg in a round hole and trying to make lopez a rim runner, play to his strengths. you dont fix what isnt broken from a guy getting 20 points on 58-60TS% with high PPP in pick situations.

you want a runner to work it with booker


I like Booker as a rim runner.

However, to leave space for Booker to run, Brook has been clear the paint by standing behind the three point line quite a bit in the past two games. Obviously, in the past two games, Brook with 13 min 3 FGA was not the emphasis of the game, coaches have been looking through players outside of Lin and Brook. In the first game, even Lin got 21 points, he was mainly catch and shoot and I don't think we have seen how coaches want to use Lin/Lopez together yet, so I'm really curious to see that.

Yes, Lin has been pair well with a hard rim runner, I could totally see that in Booker. However, last season Lin has been working well with AI in P&R, and AI is not a hard rim runner, and he was less effective due to injury in finishing, but those two had good chemistry and had a lot of good looks. Lopez is good in finishing in multiple ways, and he is in his prime, I'd anticipate him work as effective if not better than AI.

Also, I have heard a couple of people saying Lopez added a passing game last season, I'm really curious to see that, I think we saw a little bit in the open practice, but I'd like to see that in a real game.

So far I'm not sure who will start at the 2, you will need at least two capable ball handler on the floor, I don't see that in RHJ and Booker, thus I could totally see Brook receive the ball a lot and make quick decisions a lot in real game situation. Now we see ball goes to RHJ, Foye a lot, and they were either initiate offense or trying to make decisions, we might not see that as frequent as now in regular season.
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Re: The Official Lin Net Thread 

Post#1125 » by hood30 » Sun Oct 9, 2016 2:05 pm

Prokorov wrote:
hood30 wrote:
Well, if it's the case, than fine...but as a Lin fan, you're rooting for the Nets to actually make an attempt to win as many games as possible...I just bough NBA League pass for $200 so I could watch the Nets, and I'm hoping they will not tank since they have no draft picks to fall on.


Thats all well and good. but if you come in to games threads criticizing the coach for not playing lin enough its going to get ugly. this is a nets forum, not a lin forum. that stuff belongs here, not in the game threads.

Nets wont tank, but there is also no incentive to try and win as many games if that means sacraficing development to play your vets as much as possible.

I understand that you, personally, doesn't think much of the current roster and feel that the Nets should not prioritize winning games, but I'm not sure whether it should go as far as to not try to build chemistry and understanding among your projected starting 5.


we have 82 games to build chemistry.

Also, I'd like to think Atkinson will make a strong attempt to win games...But hey, if he doesn't care about actually winning games this year and simply wants to develop players for the future, than you have a point.

That makes more sense to me when it comes to only playing Brook Lopez 12mpg and resting Lin...If Kenny really wants to win as many games as possible, he would try to build chemistry by giving his key players at least 20mpg...Everybody does that, unless you're a top 5-10 team.


again, we have 82 games to build chemistry. kenny will try to win as many games as possible while still focusing on development as the #1 priority.

lin playing less then 20 minutes is beyond irrelevant. its irrelevant to kenny its irrelevant to lin and its irrelevant to nets fans. only lin fans care about something so irrelevant.


I have some issue with your recent reply, but where to start.

Firstly, we're on the Lin threat and It's for discussing anything that has to do with Lin. I absolutely don't see why some long-time Nets fan will be angry because a Lin fan don't agree with certain issues..You want to debate it, fine, but trying to act like it's a huge crime is ridiculous.

second, again, my issue is simply to get the starting 5 together for maybe 20mpg so that they can build chemistry, trust and synergy together....You can still do that and still play your younger guys...By the way, it's not like there's a lot of them with high potential.

it's not like Brooklyn currently have high potential young guys on their roster and I see no reason why you have to sacrifice trying to build some chemistry and attempting to win as many games as possible.

Levert, for some reason, is not ready to play....Whitehead, while he did okay last night, can still get his 15mpg...Yogi, will be in the D-League for development... McCollough also should spend time in D-league..not ready.

You want to start the season on good footing..This is why we have the preseason....To actually get your team ready to win as many games as possible....That is re-inforced by the fact Brooklyn does not own it's own draft pick for next year, so no incentive to tank.

Also, there's 3 new guys expected to start with a brand new system...Brooklyn paid $12M for Lin and $9mil for Booker...Let's get them ready for the season by trying to see what we've got there before the season start.

you at least want to have an idea of who plays well with who before the season start and not wait to do that when the season actually start.
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Re: The Official Lin Net Thread 

Post#1126 » by KM6 » Sun Oct 9, 2016 2:49 pm

hood30 wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
hood30 wrote:
Well, if it's the case, than fine...but as a Lin fan, you're rooting for the Nets to actually make an attempt to win as many games as possible...I just bough NBA League pass for $200 so I could watch the Nets, and I'm hoping they will not tank since they have no draft picks to fall on.


Thats all well and good. but if you come in to games threads criticizing the coach for not playing lin enough its going to get ugly. this is a nets forum, not a lin forum. that stuff belongs here, not in the game threads.

Nets wont tank, but there is also no incentive to try and win as many games if that means sacraficing development to play your vets as much as possible.

I understand that you, personally, doesn't think much of the current roster and feel that the Nets should not prioritize winning games, but I'm not sure whether it should go as far as to not try to build chemistry and understanding among your projected starting 5.


we have 82 games to build chemistry.

Also, I'd like to think Atkinson will make a strong attempt to win games...But hey, if he doesn't care about actually winning games this year and simply wants to develop players for the future, than you have a point.

That makes more sense to me when it comes to only playing Brook Lopez 12mpg and resting Lin...If Kenny really wants to win as many games as possible, he would try to build chemistry by giving his key players at least 20mpg...Everybody does that, unless you're a top 5-10 team.


again, we have 82 games to build chemistry. kenny will try to win as many games as possible while still focusing on development as the #1 priority.

lin playing less then 20 minutes is beyond irrelevant. its irrelevant to kenny its irrelevant to lin and its irrelevant to nets fans. only lin fans care about something so irrelevant.


I have some issue with your recent reply, but where to start.

Firstly, we're on the Lin threat and It's for discussing anything that has to do with Lin. I absolutely don't see why some long-time Nets fan will be angry because a Lin fan don't agree with certain issues..You want to debate it, fine, but trying to act like it's a huge crime is ridiculous.

second, again, my issue is simply to get the starting 5 together for maybe 20mpg so that they can build chemistry, trust and synergy together....You can still do that and still play your younger guys...By the way, it's not like there's a lot of them with high potential.

it's not like Brooklyn currently have high potential young guys on their roster and I see no reason why you have to sacrifice trying to build some chemistry and attempting to win as many games as possible.

Levert, for some reason, is not ready to play....Whitehead, while he did okay last night, can still get his 15mpg...Yogi, will be in the D-League for development... McCollough also should spend time in D-league..not ready.

You want to start the season on good footing..This is why we have the preseason....To actually get your team ready to win as many games as possible....That is re-inforced by the fact Brooklyn does not own it's own draft pick for next year, so no incentive to tank.

Also, there's 3 new guys expected to start with a brand new system...Brooklyn paid $12M for Lin and $9mil for Booker...Let's get them ready for the season by trying to see what we've got there before the season start.

you at least want to have an idea of who plays well with who before the season start and not wait to do that when the season actually start.



As a Lin fan myself, I think you are overreacting a bit. It's been 2 preseason games, and Lin did well in the first game scoring wise, but I would like to see more assists from him. He did pass the ball well in game one, but the conversion by his teammates are not as desirable thus the 1 assist.

Isn't it possible that KA wants him to stay on the bench watching his teammates play so he could learn their tendencies in actual game time situations besides resting him for the next game which will be televized?

Sometimes you can't see the big picture unless you put yourself outside of what's happening. Sure you can build chemistry by playing together, but for trying to play make for so many new guys, watching as a spectator could be more effective at least at the beginning.

Just my opinion.
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Re: The Official Lin Net Thread 

Post#1127 » by 13th Man » Sun Oct 9, 2016 2:53 pm

I don't mind Atkinson being conservative with Lin thus far ,It's going to be a LLLLooooooonnnnngggg season and Lin's gonna get plenty of minutes later. I hope that fans will temper their expectations when Lin doesn't get to run the entire offense through him because this is not Atkinson's offense. A 12M player is not "The face of the franchise", let's put things into perspective so we won't be disappointed later on.
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Re: The Official Lin Net Thread 

Post#1128 » by Prokorov » Sun Oct 9, 2016 3:17 pm

hood30 wrote:
Firstly, we're on the Lin threat and It's for discussing anything that has to do with Lin. I absolutely don't see why some long-time Nets fan will be angry because a Lin fan don't agree with certain issues..You want to debate it, fine, but trying to act like it's a huge crime is ridiculous.


Post whatever you want here... i was referring to the game thread where in quarter 1 of preseason game 1 their was already criticism of lin not playing enough. that wont go well if it contnues.

second, again, my issue is simply to get the starting 5 together for maybe 20mpg so that they can build chemistry, trust and synergy together....You can still do that and still play your younger guys...By the way, it's not like there's a lot of them with high potential.


they have 82 games to do that. plenty of time to build chemistry

it's not like Brooklyn currently have high potential young guys on their roster and I see no reason why you have to sacrifice trying to build some chemistry and attempting to win as many games as possible.


nothing is being sacrificed. this season isnt about winning its about development so we can get to a place where we can eventually win some games. It makes no sense to try and be some win now team. thats what got the nets where we are in the first place.

The fact that we dotn have alot of high end young players makes it even MORE important that we develop those young guys to make sure they reach their ceilings

Levert, for some reason, is not ready to play....Whitehead, while he did okay last night, can still get his 15mpg...Yogi, will be in the D-League for development... McCollough also should spend time in D-league..not ready.

You want to start the season on good footing..This is why we have the preseason....To actually get your team ready to win as many games as possible....That is re-inforced by the fact Brooklyn does not own it's own draft pick for next year, so no incentive to tank.


no one is talking about tanking. the emphasis is on development. wins are secondary.

Also, there's 3 new guys expected to start with a brand new system...Brooklyn paid $12M for Lin and $9mil for Booker...Let's get them ready for the season by trying to see what we've got there before the season start.

you at least want to have an idea of who plays well with who before the season start and not wait to do that when the season actually start.


82 games to figure it out. if you expect kenny and marks to try and do whatever it takes to try and win 30-35 gaems your going to be disappointed.
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Re: The Official Lin Net Thread 

Post#1129 » by KM6 » Sun Oct 9, 2016 3:17 pm

13th Man wrote:I don't mind Atkinson being conservative with Lin thus far ,It's going to be a LLLLooooooonnnnngggg season and Lin's gonna get plenty of minutes later. I hope that fans will temper their expectations when Lin doesn't get to run the entire offense through him because this is not Atkinson's offense. A 12M player is not "The face of the franchise", let's put things into perspective so we won't be disappointed later on.


Lin will get his minutes in the regular season, and since we have so many young guys especially at the guard position, they will learn a lot by watching Lin play. Lin had perfected offball movement, cutting, lose defenders by positioning, etc. Any Combo guards and SGs can learn a great deal from him.

His play making and dribble penetration into the paint and ability to finish or draw fouls is also top tier and among the elites like Lebron and Harden, there were a lot of stats from previous seasons to back that up. That's also great tools any guards especially PGs should try to learn as much from him as possible.

12M is not indicative of his true value, just like his salary of 2M last year doesn't mean anything. Same goes for someone like Melo who gets paid 23M per year doesn't mean he is ever going to win a ring for the Knicks, or he is even good enough to consistently help Knicks getting into the playoffs. It's all perceived value.

Lin had never been viewed as a star player, and he had never been given a fair chance until now( he did get a chance briefly in 2012 and we all know what happened), so I am not worried about how well he will play this season, the results will tell. We just need to be patient. And at the end of the season, I am sure a lot of people, especially posters here will realize even the 12M contract is a huge bargain for a player like him.

KA knows what he is doing, at least I believe so until proven otherwise. Let's just all chill and give this squad time, at least 10, 20 games into the regular season. It's almost here, 17 more days right?
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Re: The Official Lin Net Thread 

Post#1130 » by hood30 » Sun Oct 9, 2016 3:31 pm

KM6 wrote:
hood30 wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
Thats all well and good. but if you come in to games threads criticizing the coach for not playing lin enough its going to get ugly. this is a nets forum, not a lin forum. that stuff belongs here, not in the game threads.

Nets wont tank, but there is also no incentive to try and win as many games if that means sacraficing development to play your vets as much as possible.



we have 82 games to build chemistry.



again, we have 82 games to build chemistry. kenny will try to win as many games as possible while still focusing on development as the #1 priority.

lin playing less then 20 minutes is beyond irrelevant. its irrelevant to kenny its irrelevant to lin and its irrelevant to nets fans. only lin fans care about something so irrelevant.


I have some issue with your recent reply, but where to start.

Firstly, we're on the Lin threat and It's for discussing anything that has to do with Lin. I absolutely don't see why some long-time Nets fan will be angry because a Lin fan don't agree with certain issues..You want to debate it, fine, but trying to act like it's a huge crime is ridiculous.

second, again, my issue is simply to get the starting 5 together for maybe 20mpg so that they can build chemistry, trust and synergy together....You can still do that and still play your younger guys...By the way, it's not like there's a lot of them with high potential.

it's not like Brooklyn currently have high potential young guys on their roster and I see no reason why you have to sacrifice trying to build some chemistry and attempting to win as many games as possible.

Levert, for some reason, is not ready to play....Whitehead, while he did okay last night, can still get his 15mpg...Yogi, will be in the D-League for development... McCollough also should spend time in D-league..not ready.

You want to start the season on good footing..This is why we have the preseason....To actually get your team ready to win as many games as possible....That is re-inforced by the fact Brooklyn does not own it's own draft pick for next year, so no incentive to tank.

Also, there's 3 new guys expected to start with a brand new system...Brooklyn paid $12M for Lin and $9mil for Booker...Let's get them ready for the season by trying to see what we've got there before the season start.

you at least want to have an idea of who plays well with who before the season start and not wait to do that when the season actually start.



As a Lin fan myself, I think you are overreacting a bit. It's been 2 preseason games, and Lin did well in the first game scoring wise, but I would like to see more assists from him. He did pass the ball well in game one, but the conversion by his teammates are not as desirable thus the 1 assist.

Isn't it possible that KA wants him to stay on the bench watching his teammates play so he could learn their tendencies in actual game time situations besides resting him for the next game which will be televized?

Sometimes you can't see the big picture unless you put yourself outside of what's happening. Sure you can build chemistry by playing together, but for trying to play make for so many new guys, watching as a spectator could be more effective at least at the beginning.

Just my opinion.


Lin is 28 and I doubt sitting on the bench and watching his teammates play will do much for him at this advance stage of his career..You learn much more by actually playing alongside your teammates.

The younger guard like Yogi, Whitehead and Levert could learn a few things watching Lin play instead of the other way around....Lin is the player that he is..with the exception of shooting better with a new shooting form, I don't expect anything new from Lin as a player...He can only improve as a shooter and that's only possible by getting minutes and shooting to lock in his new shooting form before season start.

I don't think it's really about rest or wanting Lin to learn stuff from the bench...It's more about getting other guys playing time which is a bit easier by not playing 2 guys.
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Re: The Official Lin Net Thread 

Post#1131 » by Net Sentence » Sun Oct 9, 2016 4:06 pm

Lin is going to have to carry this back court, especially if Yogi doesnt make the team.

Whitehead cant be the primary ball handler for long stretches. Jennings was all up in his ish and exposed him somewhat.

Harris has looked good off the ball but he is a weak ball handler for a SG and cant be paired with Whitehead. The same goes for Bogs at SG and RHJ.

Vasquez was playing back to the basket from the perimeter yesterday like he was Mark Jackson. He isnt a PG anymore IMO.

Yogi is the only guy who looks the part of a true PG. He also has a lot of the attributes that Lin has in that he can break a defense with his drives and he was hitting people with crisp passes once he collapsed the D.
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Re: The Official Lin Net Thread 

Post#1132 » by hood30 » Sun Oct 9, 2016 4:41 pm

Net Sentence wrote:Lin is going to have to carry this back court, especially if Yogi doesnt make the team.

Whitehead cant be the primary ball handler for long stretches. Jennings was all up in his ish and exposed him somewhat.

Harris has looked good off the ball but he is a weak ball handler for a SG and cant be paired with Whitehead. The same goes for Bogs at SG and RHJ.

Vasquez was playing back to the basket from the perimeter yesterday like he was Mark Jackson. He isnt a PG anymore IMO.

Yogi is the only guy who looks the part of a true PG. He also has a lot of the attributes that Lin has in that he can break a defense with his drives and he was hitting people with crisp passes once he collapsed the D.


Yogi will get abused defensively because of his smaller size, but he does have good handle...average shooter.

I believe Foye will get the nod if Atkinson wants to pair Lin with another ball-handler and personally, I do feel this may be the way to go because Lin is not a great ball-handler nor is he a "pure PG."..Not that Foye is neither, but he does have good handle in compare to Bogs.

Whitehead simply need to bent down his knees when he's being pressured..He's 6'5 so he gotta keep his dribble low, specially when he's being guarded by smaller guy with quick hands...The TV commentators was making that point.

With that being said, that would mean not starting Bogs who is supposed to be penciled to start at SG...After promising him he would be among the core players, I'm not sure Kenny could now tell him he's coming off the bench.

Harris is a lock rotational player and will back up RHJ...Good balance between a good defender in RHJ and a good shooter in Harris.
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Re: The Official Lin Net Thread 

Post#1133 » by Net Sentence » Sun Oct 9, 2016 4:47 pm

hood30 wrote:
Net Sentence wrote:Lin is going to have to carry this back court, especially if Yogi doesnt make the team.

Whitehead cant be the primary ball handler for long stretches. Jennings was all up in his ish and exposed him somewhat.

Harris has looked good off the ball but he is a weak ball handler for a SG and cant be paired with Whitehead. The same goes for Bogs at SG and RHJ.

Vasquez was playing back to the basket from the perimeter yesterday like he was Mark Jackson. He isnt a PG anymore IMO.

Yogi is the only guy who looks the part of a true PG. He also has a lot of the attributes that Lin has in that he can break a defense with his drives and he was hitting people with crisp passes once he collapsed the D.


Yogi will get abused defensively because of his smaller size, but he does have good handle.

I believe Foye will get the nod if Atkinson wants to pair Lin with another ball-handler and personally, I do feel this may be the way to go because Lin is not a great ball-handler nor is he a "pure PG."..Not that Foye is neither, but he does have good handle.

With that being said, that would mean not starting Bogs who is supposed to be penciled to start at SG...After promising him he would be among the core players, I'm not sure Kenny could now tell him he's coming off the bench.

Harris is a lock rotational player and will back up RHJ...Good balance between a good defender in RHJ and a good shooter in Harris.


Yogi is pretty good on defense. He gets into his man and makes it difficult for them to dribble. His lack of height will always create some problems but he isnt going to be a starter, he will be a backup. Split the backup PG duties to Yogi and Whitehead. When it's someone who is a waterbug type like Isiah Thomas or Jennings you put Yogi in because of the matchup. When it's a bigger guard you put Whitehead in.
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Post#1134 » by hood30 » Sun Oct 9, 2016 5:12 pm

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Net Sentence wrote:Lin is going to have to carry this back court, especially if Yogi doesnt make the team.

Whitehead cant be the primary ball handler for long stretches. Jennings was all up in his ish and exposed him somewhat.

Harris has looked good off the ball but he is a weak ball handler for a SG and cant be paired with Whitehead. The same goes for Bogs at SG and RHJ.

Vasquez was playing back to the basket from the perimeter yesterday like he was Mark Jackson. He isnt a PG anymore IMO.

Yogi is the only guy who looks the part of a true PG. He also has a lot of the attributes that Lin has in that he can break a defense with his drives and he was hitting people with crisp passes once he collapsed the D.


Yogi will get abused defensively because of his smaller size, but he does have good handle.

I believe Foye will get the nod if Atkinson wants to pair Lin with another ball-handler and personally, I do feel this may be the way to go because Lin is not a great ball-handler nor is he a "pure PG."..Not that Foye is neither, but he does have good handle.

With that being said, that would mean not starting Bogs who is supposed to be penciled to start at SG...After promising him he would be among the core players, I'm not sure Kenny could now tell him he's coming off the bench.

Harris is a lock rotational player and will back up RHJ...Good balance between a good defender in RHJ and a good shooter in Harris.


Yogi is pretty good on defense. He gets into his man and makes it difficult for them to dribble. His lack of height will always create some problems but he isnt going to be a starter, he will be a backup. Split the backup PG duties to Yogi and Whitehead. When it's someone who is a waterbug type like Isiah Thomas or Jennings you put Yogi in because of the matchup. When it's a bigger guard you put Whitehead in.


Barring injuries, Vasquez is a lock as the back-up PG behind Lin because of his contract...Saying that, I'm not a fan of his and I've not been impressed at all in the 2 preseason games.

yes, it's only preseason, but you still have to show a bit of skill,,if anything, to show your teammates and the fan you deserve your minutes..I haven't seen 1 inch of the elite passing and 40% shooting from 3PT range that Prokohrov is talking about.

The only good thing about Vasquez right now is his size at 6'6 which would give Atkinson the option to pair him with another smaller guard like Lin at 6'3.
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Post#1135 » by Teddyb » Sun Oct 9, 2016 6:09 pm

These guys are working everyday. Letting Lin sit is a good thing. He's join to play heavy minutes during the season. Its pre-season. No real reason for him to play a lot. He will be fine.
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Post#1136 » by 13th Man » Sun Oct 9, 2016 6:52 pm

Teddyb wrote:These guys are working everyday. Letting Lin sit is a good thing. He's join to play heavy minutes during the season. Its pre-season. No real reason for him to play a lot. He will be fine.


As well, I thought sitting him last night was pretty smart of KA (even though he said this wasn't bc of MSG). No need to waste any emotional energy over a meaningless game, save it for when it counts.
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Post#1137 » by ChokeFasncists » Sun Oct 9, 2016 7:30 pm

My theory on Lin's DNP@MSG. KA wants the preseason drama to happen in Brooklyn when the Knicks comes and leave the MSG showdown Linsanity win till the regular season.
MorbidHEAT wrote:My dislike for Lin started during Linsanity. It was absurd. It's probably irrational dislike at this point, but man he gets on my nerves. He's been tearing us up though.
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Post#1138 » by ChokeFasncists » Sun Oct 9, 2016 8:00 pm

Net Sentence wrote:Lin is going to have to carry this back court, especially if Yogi doesnt make the team.

Whitehead cant be the primary ball handler for long stretches. Jennings was all up in his ish and exposed him somewhat.

Harris has looked good off the ball but he is a weak ball handler for a SG and cant be paired with Whitehead. The same goes for Bogs at SG and RHJ.

Vasquez was playing back to the basket from the perimeter yesterday like he was Mark Jackson. He isnt a PG anymore IMO.

Yogi is the only guy who looks the part of a true PG. He also has a lot of the attributes that Lin has in that he can break a defense with his drives and he was hitting people with crisp passes once he collapsed the D.

You are saying Mark Jackson wasn't a PG?
MorbidHEAT wrote:My dislike for Lin started during Linsanity. It was absurd. It's probably irrational dislike at this point, but man he gets on my nerves. He's been tearing us up though.
Thanks for the honesty.
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Post#1139 » by ChokeFasncists » Sun Oct 9, 2016 8:05 pm

phillycheese wrote:Chris McCullagh is gonna beast, just watch. This guy has some serious hops. If he and Lin can connect that would be a very serious pnr tandem.

Agreed, just not right now. CMC is still a little bit deer-in-the-headlight on offense. He played fine on D tho, that is a very good start.
Bennett - not sure why this guy cannot seem to finish all those bunnies around the basket. His game is so frustrating.

He needs to learn when to do things: when to jump, when to use his body to push people around, when to turn, when to dribble, when to slide, when to shoot etc.
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Post#1140 » by Net Sentence » Sun Oct 9, 2016 8:39 pm

ChokeFasncists wrote:
Net Sentence wrote:Lin is going to have to carry this back court, especially if Yogi doesnt make the team.

Whitehead cant be the primary ball handler for long stretches. Jennings was all up in his ish and exposed him somewhat.

Harris has looked good off the ball but he is a weak ball handler for a SG and cant be paired with Whitehead. The same goes for Bogs at SG and RHJ.

Vasquez was playing back to the basket from the perimeter yesterday like he was Mark Jackson. He isnt a PG anymore IMO.

Yogi is the only guy who looks the part of a true PG. He also has a lot of the attributes that Lin has in that he can break a defense with his drives and he was hitting people with crisp passes once he collapsed the D.

You are saying Mark Jackson wasn't a PG?


Not in todays NBA. Name a PG who has to play like that who is successful?

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