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Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Thread (Nets To Select 3rd Overall) 

Post#1161 » by enetric » Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:29 pm

http://www.nj.com/nets/index.ssf/2010/06/nj_nets_getting_drafty_its_sti.html

Dave D has been a bit annoying lately with some of his opinions on what will happen or what should happen...but hey he is entitled to his opinioon like anyone else. At least he finally got back to actually wrting an article for what is going on IN HOUSE. When he is on his game...you can get more insight from him than others. But when he starts playing Vecsey...I think many of us start realing.

This article is basically what I have been saying since I came back...plus a few nuggets from what he is actually hearing after making a few of his own calls. I think everyone but Demens will enjoy it since well...he basically wants whatever is worst for the Nets.

I am posting this sucker in a few spots...I feel it speaks to a few different discussions we are having right now....

Nets' draft-day strategy will unfold with LeBron James in mind

They’ve got every ball in the air right now, with a singular purpose in mind, and it is only partly related to tomorrow’s draft.

Indeed, you might say the Nets are far more preoccupied with how this dovetails into free agency than the pick itself.

Here’s the directive, and it really hasn’t changed: Rod Thorn, more than anything else today, is still trying to create the second full max slot in case LeBron says, “Okay, I’m coming, and I’m bringing along so-and-so.”

That’s the ticket, and we’ll say it again: If you’re in for a penny, you’re in for a pound. The Nets would have to use $16M of the $27M they have in cap room on LBJ, and his friend isn’t necessarily going to be had for the leftover $11M.

So one day before the draft, everything is in play – a Devin Harris salary dump, a trade down the first round to save a few million, and virtually anything that will maximize their chances of bagging the grand prize a week from Thursday.

Can they pull it off? Who the hell knows? But it would basically put the Nets on a even playing field with the Knicks.

And you can’t go forward without creating the best possible scenario for LeBron if you’re one of the five teams on his list – which they are. They truly believe they have a shot at him – at virtually every free agent, actually – other than D-Wade.

* * * * *

But here’s the explosive factor, as far as the rest of the league – and maybe the Nets – is concerned: Chris Paul is back in play, no matter what George Shinn says, according to an agent and exec we talked to today.

Typically, that might lead to low-ball offers. But teams are so motivated to at least play along with that CP-LBJ scenario – because they are truly close – they’re going to dance to the Worldwide Wes tune as long as he keeps singing it.

But Shinn, we’re told, has reached the conclusion that he should consider moving CP because a) He’s beginning to realize that the sale won’t happen; and b) he’s going to take a bath next year unless he trims payroll.

* * * * *

Meanwhile, here’s one thing Rod Thorn knows:

“It would be so much easier for us if free agency was before the draft,” he said. “Then you’d have some idea what you can and cannot get. So as far as drafting goes, you have to just go for the best guy for us.”

We’re told that he’s getting offers that might be attractive in any other era – Al Jefferson for basically nothing, as long as they swap spots – but there’s no way he can do that without blowing up his cap space.

* * * *

Sometime before July 1, the Nets will announce that they’ve divested themselves of Chris Douglas-Roberts and his $845,000 team option, shipping both to Milwaukee for a future second-round pick. It wasn’t clear whether they wanted to keep him around anyway, judging by Thorn’s last word on the subject the other day:

“We have not exercised the option at this time,” he said Tuesday, “but we will make that decision next week, and I’m not really leaning either way – it depends on the draft.”

Then again, maybe it didn’t.

In other words, the Bucks did them a favor, because they weren’t particularly happy bringing back the King of Twit and letting him hang around with another impressionable group of kids.

But he still wasn’t as bad a kid as they made him out to be, and it’s a pretty safe bet that Skiles was sold on him after a discussion with L-Frank, who still loves him.

The Nets’ bankroll, meanwhile, is up to $27 million for free agency. And, perhaps, still rising.
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Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Thread (Nets To Select 3rd Overall) 

Post#1162 » by Jersey Generals » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:03 am

According to Chad Ford's twitter:

Trade Chatter (free): Chris Paul staying put; Favors back in favor in NJ; Raptors-Blazers talking trade more ...


Sigh of relief about the Favors part, sigh of disappointment for the Chris Paul part.
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Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Thread (Nets To Select 3rd Overall) 

Post#1163 » by vincecarter4pres » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:19 am

Jersey Generals wrote:According to Chad Ford's twitter:

Trade Chatter (free): Chris Paul staying put; Favors back in favor in NJ; Raptors-Blazers talking trade more ...


Sigh of relief about the Favors part, sigh of disappointment for the Chris Paul part.

Yeah, I did one of these:

:( :D

I heard the Blazers/Raps rumor as well.

It's Rudy Fernandez and the 22nd for the 13th.
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Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Thread (Nets To Select 3rd Overall) 

Post#1164 » by demens » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:44 am

I'm completely depressed about everything i've read since yesterday. Any excitement and positivity i had was drained in the last 2 days.

*Starting with the Wes rumor. Talk about not winning the lotto being a blessing in disguise...NOT.
*Then Monroe.
*Then some writers tried to justify that calling it a smokescreen. Dumbest smokescreen ever, Minny fans are laughing at the idea of us drafting Wes, they beat us last year and now that we have all these bright things going for us, we are still giving them reasons to mock us.
*Then they report that Avery prefers a low maintenance player? Whaaat? I thought he were getting a tough minded, no nonsense motivator as coach not a puppy that needs to be hugged and wants to cuddle with his players, wtf Avery!??
*Then all this craziness about a Wes and Boozer combo and a totally opposite report that Thorn is now turning into Donnie Walsh and is obsessed with risking everything for a chance to get nothing.
*Then Paul, really, this is our best idea. Again, to give up everything for a FORMER best PG in the league who might never be the same player again? Is anyone considering the risk here or everyone is just sold by his name alone?
*CDR trade. I couldnt be happier to get rid of this guy, but not only did we get rid of him for nothing, we got rid of him for a FUTURE nothing. I dont think his value was high, but the Bucks have THREE 2nd rounders THIS year for Christ sake, they really couldnt work out a deal? Just a lazy trade.
*OKC getting Heats 18th pick for Cook and #32. Why couldn't have we done that? Saving every penny for those 2 max right? Yet on the other hand you have...
*Reports of us being interested in Brian Scalabrene and Qyntell Woods!!!! Really, Cooks $2mil and CDRs $300k extra in cap is a disaster in summer free agency, but going after even bigger scrubs is a ok....

I think i would prefer nothing what so ever went down tomorrow that involves the Nets. Just draft Favors and call it a day. I dont even have any hope that the 2 late picks will be any good. They'll probably draft Lance Stephenson and Brian Zubek. Then trade for Brand out of the blue.

I had zero trust in Thorn before these last 2 days so i can't find the words to explain how much trust i have in him now.
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Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Thread (Nets To Select 3rd Overall) 

Post#1165 » by vincecarter4pres » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:58 am

Georgia Tech big man Derrick Favors is back in favor in New Jersey. A league source told me on Wednesday night that after 24 hours of debate, it looks like Favors has re-emerged as the favorite to go No. 3. After a so-so Favors workout on Monday, the Nets began to move toward Syracuse forward Wes Johnson. But with the draft now less than 24 hours away, Favors has re-emerged as the favorite. The news squashes the prevailing theory around the league that drafting Johnson was a precursor to the Nets signing free agent forward Carlos Boozer this summer. Both Johnson and Boozer are represented by the same agent, Rob Pelinka. The source stressed that the decision wasn't a final one and that the Nets were also exploring potential trade options with the No. 3 pick. But if the draft were held tonight, Favors would be the pick.


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Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Thread (Nets To Select 3rd Overall) 

Post#1166 » by SteveNets15 » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:59 am

NBA DRAFT preview on ESPN.Just started 10pm
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Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Thread (Nets To Select 3rd Overall) 

Post#1167 » by BasketCase1 » Thu Jun 24, 2010 2:24 am

Motto for tommorow night guys:

In Thorn, We Trust!

Have a good night!
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Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Thread (Nets To Select 3rd Overall) 

Post#1168 » by vincecarter4pres » Thu Jun 24, 2010 2:27 am

stevieboy wrote:NBA DRAFT preview on ESPN.Just started 10pm

Thanks dude, wish I saw this earlier though...
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Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Thread (Nets To Select 3rd Overall) 

Post#1169 » by SteveNets15 » Thu Jun 24, 2010 2:34 am

Dam we need room for that 2nd max player now! Lets go RT get it done.
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Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Thread (Nets To Select 3rd Overall) 

Post#1170 » by andyhop » Thu Jun 24, 2010 2:37 am

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enetric wrote:Uninteresting to a Wolves FAN....but to the team? All I have to say to you is...famous last words


I'd be willing to be that it's even less interesting to the Wolves' team. David Kahn has the most disturbing kind of man love for Ricky Rubio. He's pretty much staked his entire career on Rubio coming over and being the team's star.

On top of that, there is no incentive at all for the Wolves to move up. No matter what the Nets do, 2 of Johnson, Favors, and Cousins will be available. Any one of those guys would be an excellent addition to the Wolves. The Wolves are in a fine spot at 4.



They go big..they must trade., From what I am reading, no one wants Al Jeff out there. Cousins wouldnt fit whatsoever. So do you trade Love?

Also, from what I am reading...Kahn has basically alienated most of the league already. Supposedly hey find him to be extremely arrogant, and it would seem most feel he wasnt qualified to get that job in the first place. At least that's what I am reading. Why mention all of this? Well, if Rubio keeps holding him by the nuts....it could be a very SHORT career.


The thing is that even if Rubio decides he doesn't want to come over to play for the Wolves and tries to force a trade he just has more value next off season when he can come over than he does now.So even presuming that despite all of the evidence he won't play for the Wolves trading him now unless it is a slam dunk makes no sense.

Trading him now for less than a big star basically ends Kahn's career immediately.
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Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Thread (Nets To Select 3rd Overall) 

Post#1171 » by vincecarter4pres » Thu Jun 24, 2010 2:41 am

This has quickly turned into the Lebron James and free agency preview. :-?
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Post#1172 » by 60cent » Thu Jun 24, 2010 2:45 am

Hey guys... I havent been able to follow a lot of your opinions with the upcoming draft but i still see a lot of love for Favors. I cant blame you guys for that because i can see the potential but im still sticking with my pick, Cousins. Its going to be hard to pass on this kind of talent. I mean, the best pick is already right in front of us guys... Based on the reports, his workouts is the clear indication that he is much better than Favors. I understand that he's more of a center but arent we suppose to pick by BPA? Who cares if we have two Centers, i think thats a good problem to have. What if he turns out better than Lopez? Then Lopez becomes a huge asset and get us tremendous value in return.

Remember, in this league right now, you have to have some fire, some toughness to be able to contend and drafting Cousins would only make us a tougher team along with his versatile game.

Its just my own opinion guys, not saying Favors is a bad pick, id probably still be ok with Favors but id be ecstatic drafting Cousins.

Now, i hope the rumors im hearing about drafting Wes is not true not because he is not a good player but Wes for our 3rd? We can get that talent in the middle of the draft so why waste it where we're picking right?

Id be posting more of this until the draft.
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Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Thread (Nets To Select 3rd Overall) 

Post#1173 » by Jersey Generals » Thu Jun 24, 2010 2:46 am

vincecarter4pres wrote:This has quickly turned into the Lebron James and free agency preview. :-?


More like an "ask Tom Penn about the salary cap" preview.
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Post#1174 » by enetric » Thu Jun 24, 2010 2:46 am

demens wrote:I'm completely depressed about everything i've read since yesterday. Any excitement and positivity i had was drained in the last 2 days.

*Starting with the Wes rumor. Talk about not winning the lotto being a blessing in disguise...NOT.
*Then Monroe.
*Then some writers tried to justify that calling it a smokescreen. Dumbest smokescreen ever, Minny fans are laughing at the idea of us drafting Wes, they beat us last year and now that we have all these bright things going for us, we are still giving them reasons to mock us.
*Then they report that Avery prefers a low maintenance player? Whaaat? I thought he were getting a tough minded, no nonsense motivator as coach not a puppy that needs to be hugged and wants to cuddle with his players, wtf Avery!??
*Then all this craziness about a Wes and Boozer combo and a totally opposite report that Thorn is now turning into Donnie Walsh and is obsessed with risking everything for a chance to get nothing.
*Then Paul, really, this is our best idea. Again, to give up everything for a FORMER best PG in the league who might never be the same player again? Is anyone considering the risk here or everyone is just sold by his name alone?
*CDR trade. I couldnt be happier to get rid of this guy, but not only did we get rid of him for nothing, we got rid of him for a FUTURE nothing. I dont think his value was high, but the Bucks have THREE 2nd rounders THIS year for Christ sake, they really couldnt work out a deal? Just a lazy trade.
*OKC getting Heats 18th pick for Cook and #32. Why couldn't have we done that? Saving every penny for those 2 max right? Yet on the other hand you have...
*Reports of us being interested in Brian Scalabrene and Qyntell Woods!!!! Really, Cooks $2mil and CDRs $300k extra in cap is a disaster in summer free agency, but going after even bigger scrubs is a ok....

I think i would prefer nothing what so ever went down tomorrow that involves the Nets. Just draft Favors and call it a day. I dont even have any hope that the 2 late picks will be any good. They'll probably draft Lance Stephenson and Brian Zubek. Then trade for Brand out of the blue.

I had zero trust in Thorn before these last 2 days so i can't find the words to explain how much trust i have in him now.


Does anyone understand the ass clown today?

Basically a bunch of rumors now being reported to be nonsense they he didnt like make him trust Thorn...LESS rather than more?

Basically this guy lives to be a whinny girl and looks for bizarre angles to validate himself.
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Post#1175 » by SteveNets15 » Thu Jun 24, 2010 2:49 am

At least Stuart brought up the Nets even though the conversation didn't last 30 seconds.
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Post#1176 » by amk482 » Thu Jun 24, 2010 2:52 am

Van Gundy is an arrogant and smug little guy
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Post#1177 » by Jersey Generals » Thu Jun 24, 2010 2:58 am

According to Andy Katz, we might be getting the 19th pick from Boston for the 27 and 31.

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_ ... -19th-pick
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Post#1178 » by vincecarter4pres » Thu Jun 24, 2010 3:00 am

amk482 wrote:Van Gundy is an arrogant and smug little guy

:lol:

Yeah he is.
You have to remember he was the Knicks head coach and assistant for a long time and IIRC was a Knicks fan growing up. He has been taking a steamer on the Nets almost all season.


On a side note, Boston is trying to move back in the draft for 2 picks and is reportedly mulling between two offers, Memphis with the 25th and 28th and us with the 27th and 31st.

This, IMO, is why we are trying to snatch another 2nd rounder, because we are hoping and almost expecting to move up with both picks but we still want 3 picks total.
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Post#1179 » by Jersey Generals » Thu Jun 24, 2010 3:01 am

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Post#1180 » by vincecarter4pres » Thu Jun 24, 2010 3:02 am

Jersey Generals wrote:According to Andy Katz, we might be getting the 19th pick from Boston for the 27 and 31.

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_ ... -19th-pick

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