Nets are interviewing.....

[Keith Van Horn]

So...
Colangelo for GM
Calipari for Head coach and top executive job to help market team and assist GM
Thibodeau as assistant coach (top assistant to Cal)

?

Calipari is not coming here. Brett Yormark wants it but Prokhorov shot that down.

when carl says it I have to believe it.... for now.

[Net Sentence]

Is it just me or do you think that the Nets have already made a deal and are sitting on releasing it until after tonight's game. This way if we lose, we steal the backpage attention away from our loss. It just feels like something we would do.

[Paradise]

Is it just me or do you think that the Nets have already made a deal and are sitting on releasing it until after tonight's game. This way if we lose, we steal the backpage attention away from our loss. It just feels like something we would do.

There is no way to distract that. We're going to receive bad press no matter what.

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Bryan Colangelo on analytics

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOJx_hdbpms&sns=em[/youtube]

Ha Isiah Thomas is so dumb ... BC is like wtf are you talking about.

analytics is the new buzz word they are only as good as your star player

i dont need analytics to teel me if i put a prime kg prime pierce and prime ray allen on the same team its going to be a good team

It's a tool to help better measure a player, that's what they are trying to tell him. No analytical person has ever said analytics is the only evaluation to use.

[shakendfries]

So...
Colangelo for GM
Calipari for Head coach and top executive job to help market team and assist GM
Thibodeau as assistant coach (top assistant to Cal)

?

Colangelo + Calipari + Thibs?!?!

[NyCeEvO]

I'm really hoping this is a smoke screen or a ploy for Calipari to negotiate.

How would this be a ploy for Calipari to negotiate?

He's got a great job. It's not like he would be losing out on a tremendous opportunity if he doesn't come to the Nets. If the Nets don't hire him, it's the Nets who would be losing out on a good candidate, not the candidate losing out on a good organization.

I do not want Colangelo at all. Was awful in Toronto, and that bargnani pick just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I also don't want Thibs or Mark Jackson, as they remind me too much of Lionel Hollins (inflexible coaches stuck in their ways, who can rub players the wrong way).

I can see why you'd say that but it seems like you have dislike of these guys based on rumors.

Colangelo wasn't that great in Toronto but he was very good in Phoenix. Since his most recent role was in Toronto, it makes sense why people have soured on him.

I'd like to find out a lot more about him before I take a side and not just be swayed by the "Bargs" comments as if that should be the end of all discussion. The guy made mistakes (most GMs do) and now is the time to do a thorough search to see if he's actually learned from his mistakes.



Regarding the coaches...yes, Mark Jackson and Thibs have been noted to be stubborn but they are far more different than they are similar.

Aside from Mark Jackson's personal issues, Mark Jackson is not a good coach because he eschews analytics for the most part and is just a motivational speaker/coach. His assistant coaches did most of the X and O work while he talked about "not quitting", "fighting for it", and "wanting it more than the other team". He had issues with the front office because he didn't want to make changes to his assistant coaching staff. Jackson hired "his guys" and not guys who were really the best available candidates. Lacob, the owner of the Warriors, even detailed the reasons why Mark was let go and said as much here.


Thibs was/is a defensive analytics fiend who broke off his engagement because he didn't have time for a relationship since he had basketball in his life.

The one knock that I'll definitely grant you is that he played his guys too hard. With that said, you can't say that he didn't get the most out of his guys. Those Bulls squads he coached had no business winning 50 games with Rose's constant injuries and before Butler's emergence, yet Thibs consistently got his guys to play hard and to compete.

He masterminded Boston's historic championship defense in 2008 and he was able to carry it over to the Bulls. While Thibs was there, the Bulls were top 5 in opponent eFG% and free throws per field goal, which meant that they forced you into tough shots and didn't foul you so you can get free shots at the line.

Despite having subpar team offense, they would almost always be able to keep games close even against good teams because of their suffocating defense.

Unlike Lacob' advocating for better assistants, the Bulls front office took away Ron Adams from Thibodeau because he didn't like the personnel changes the front office made in letting Kyle Korver and CJ Watson go and bringing back Kirk Hinrich. (Look at how Korver did before suffering an injury due to Delladova)

I've already written in previous posts (here and here) that show how connected Thibs is with players and coaches and how good his defensive schemes truly are.

The Bulls front office divisiveness goes back to MJ and PJax. Superstars, like even native Chicagoan Dwyane Wade, have criticized the Bulls for not being loyal and this was just before Wade was going to become a free agent and people thought Chicago had a chance.

The Warriors front office weren't at fault, but Mark Jackson was. The very next year, a rookie coach very much open to analytics, took basically that same squad and won a title.

Thibs was a bit at fault for his departure from Chicago but Bulls front office were far from sinless.

You can say that Mark Jackson and Thibs were stubborn but any similarities between the two end there.


On a related note, I'd absolutely love to see what Thibs could do with an assistant coach who's an offensive guru like a Mike D'Antoni (I know he's with the Sixers). If they could agree on personnel to run who can do what they want on offense and defense, it would be a hell of a show.

[NyCeEvO]

I'm really hoping this is a smoke screen or a ploy for Calipari to negotiate. I do not want Colangelo at all. Was awful in Toronto, and that bargnani pick just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I also don't want Thibs or Mark Jackson, as they remind me too much of Lionel Hollins (inflexible coaches stuck in their ways, who can rub players the wrong way).

Someone like Brad Stevens would be pretty amazing for the Nets. I'm sure there's more young coaches like him in college basketball.

I don't know...he was being touted as an excellent coach at least a year before he made the jump. I'm not sure if there are others who can succeed like him.

[NyCeEvO]

Anyone trying to justify Colangelos moves are simply being nice.

He made terrible decision after terrible decision.

He traded for a washed up Jermaine Oneal, and then traded him away for Shawn Marions expiring. He signed Hedo Turkoglu to a horrible contract after that.

He let Bosh walk for nothing, when it was obvious to everyone that he wasn't going to resign. In fact, the Miami cap space they used to sign Bosh was the expiring Jermaine Oneal contract.

He hired Jay Triano as a head coach.

He spends recklessly, and basically just built a bunch of crap teams. He couldn't put a star next to Bosh, who was a 25/11 player at the time.

We all thought he built the Suns team, but anyone who looks into that knows that it was Jerry who built that Suns team.

Sadly, this is true.

When he branched out from his dad's shadow and tried to make a name for himself, he tainted the Colangelo name.

[Paradise]

The biggest reason why I am praying we can land Thibs is because he has proven he can adjust his schemes on the fly. He went from a PnR offense where Rose ran a lot of the action to adjusting to a motion offense with Noah being the main facilitator.

Nate Robinson, DJ Augustin, Marco Bellineli, Nazr Mohammad, Mike Dunleavy. No other coach except Pop would be able get those journeymen to help win games in the playoffs.

[NyCeEvO]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/mitch_lawrence/status/687337080020701189[/tweet]

I'm happy about this but maybe I'm reading into the fact that the Nets reached out to Thibs rather than Thibs contacting the Nets.

He's probably changed his number 5x since Hollins was fired hoping that Prokhorov won't call and leave a message.

[NyCeEvO]

The biggest reason why I am praying we can land Thibs is because he has proven he can adjust his schemes on the fly. He went from a PnR offense where Rose ran a lot of the action to adjusting to a motion offense with Noah being the main facilitator.

Nate Robinson, DJ Augustin, Marco Bellineli, Nazr Mohammad, Mike Dunleavy. No other coach except Pop would be able get those journeymen to help win games in the playoffs.

This was the same coach beat the Nets in Game 7 of the first postseason in Brooklyn with Nate Robinson and Joakim Noah leading the way.

Winning a game 7 on the road without a single offensive star is huge.

[NyCeEvO]

This is huge news coming from Carl.

I wonder if that means we already interviewed them or if we're just interested...

Please confirm!

Damn...some of the old posters are coming back. Billy King gets fired and now everyone starts to believe that there's light at the end of tunnel.

[NyCeEvO]

I know Thibs has pedigree, but I fear that he will bring the same attitude that Hollins has. He seems inflexible and doesn't seem to get along with anyone - be it management or players. My first choice would honestly be Calipari being President and Coach, with Colangelo being the GM. They work together, and Calipari provides the direction of the team. He relies on BC to get transactions and scouting done.

Hollins is the guy who punches out at 4:55.

Thibs is the guy who sleeps in his office because he watched film to 3 in the morning.

Or who doesn't have time for a girlfriend because he spends all of his time thinking of basketball.

Except that's what really happened haha.

[NyCeEvO]

Is it just me or do you think that the Nets have already made a deal and are sitting on releasing it until after tonight's game. This way if we lose, we steal the backpage attention away from our loss. It just feels like something we would do.

You could be right but I doubt they would do that. The season is already lost. Why rush into a decision when there's nothing to gain?

Unless ownership is absolutely floored with a candidate and thinks there's no possibility that someone better can emerge for the job, it makes no sense for them to get a candidate.

For once I really think they won't rush into a decision and actually take their time. They just started collecting names. It'll take time to sift through all of the candidates and let the cream rise to the top.

[Mkdaman1818]

Is it just me or do you think that the Nets have already made a deal and are sitting on releasing it until after tonight's game. This way if we lose, we steal the backpage attention away from our loss. It just feels like something we would do.

You could be right but I doubt they would do that. The season is already lost. Why rush into a decision when there's nothing to gain?

Unless ownership is absolutely floored with a candidate and thinks there's no possibility that someone better can emerge for the job, it makes no sense for them to get a candidate.

For once I really think they won't rush into a decision and actually take their time. They just started collecting names. It'll take time to sift through all of the candidates and let the cream rise to the top.

There is one reason to do this - money and attention. It's terrible I know, but Yormark is probably tearing his hair out at how bad our attendance and NY footprint is right now (the media doesn't give a sh*t about us). It might be in their interest to make a splash ASAP to spur some ticket sales. I don't want them to do this, but I can EASILY see them doing this.

[NyCeEvO]

Is it just me or do you think that the Nets have already made a deal and are sitting on releasing it until after tonight's game. This way if we lose, we steal the backpage attention away from our loss. It just feels like something we would do.

You could be right but I doubt they would do that. The season is already lost. Why rush into a decision when there's nothing to gain?

Unless ownership is absolutely floored with a candidate and thinks there's no possibility that someone better can emerge for the job, it makes no sense for them to get a candidate.

For once I really think they won't rush into a decision and actually take their time. They just started collecting names. It'll take time to sift through all of the candidates and let the cream rise to the top.

There is one reason to do this - money and attention. It's terrible I know, but Yormark is probably tearing his hair out at how bad our attendance and NY footprint is right now (the media doesn't give a sh*t about us). It might be in their interest to make a splash ASAP to spur some ticket sales. I don't want them to do this, but I can EASILY see them doing this.

Ticket sales aren't going to increase because of a GM or coaching hire lol.

The only people for whom that would happen are Phil Jackson, Pat Riley, and maybe John Calipari. If the Nets hired Thibs, I'd be happy but there's no way I'm buying a ticket to watch him have a migraine coaching this terrible squad.

Yormark is just hoping the current group plays better so more people come to the arena.

[Keith Van Horn]

Don't want one or the other first, I want both GM and coach appointed at the same time. That way we know they're going to see eye to eye and make things work to better this franchise.

[Keith Van Horn]

Does anyone think though that if Thibs is hired he's going to try to make a move to bring in Rose and/or Noah? Move Lopez, Johnson, Jack?

[Net Sentence]

Does anyone think though that if Thibs is hired he's going to try to make a move to bring in Rose and/or Noah? Move Lopez, Johnson, Jack?

I doubt he wants Noah or Rose back, they are towards the end of their career. Dont forget that He won a title with Rondo as a Celtic's assistant. He is part of Team USA so he is plugged in with all of the top players.

[Ror1997]

Does anyone think though that if Thibs is hired he's going to try to make a move to bring in Rose and/or Noah? Move Lopez, Johnson, Jack?

hey if we let them walk in F/A, who cares. lol