Brooklyn Nets 2017 Draft Thread

shakendfries · Post #121 » by **shakendfries** » Sun Dec 18, 2016 12:06 am

Although there is absolutely no way the Nets will be in any position to draft him, Malik Monk is the truth. He has just passed the mark for most points in a game for a freshman in Kentucky basketball history, 39pts and counting against UNC

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Paradise · Post #122 » by **Paradise** » Sun Dec 18, 2016 12:56 am

He finished with 47 Points, 18-28 FG, 8-12 3PT. Monk is a beast. He reminds me alot of JR Smith.

jbeachboy · Post #123 » by **jbeachboy** » Sun Dec 18, 2016 4:51 pm

so nets will get 22nd pick or so with pick swap?

shakendfries · Post #124 » by **shakendfries** » Sun Dec 18, 2016 5:28 pm

Paradise wrote:He finished with 47 Points, 18-28 FG, 8-12 3PT. Monk is a beast. He reminds me alot of JR Smith.

His sharpshooter confidence/borderline arrogance is oozing. This kid plays like a star already

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shakendfries · Post #125 » by **shakendfries** » Sun Dec 18, 2016 5:30 pm

jbeachboy wrote:so nets will get 22nd pick or so with pick swap?

Yeah pretty much late teens/early 20s. The eastern conference is super weak this year so the 3-8 seeds in the east will likely have worse records than the 1-6 seeds in the west.

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ChokeFasncists · Post #126 » by **ChokeFasncists** » Sun Dec 18, 2016 9:56 pm

So we should be rooting for teams like the Jazz, Blazers etc.

shakendfries · Post #127 » by **shakendfries** » Wed Dec 21, 2016 4:10 pm

ChokeFasncists wrote:So we should be rooting for teams like the Jazz, Blazers etc.

Precisely - the success of the 3-7 seed in the WC works in the favor of the Nets

shakendfries · Post #128 » by **shakendfries** » Wed Dec 21, 2016 4:11 pm

Luke Kennard of Duke is really coming into his own this season

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Post #129 » by **CalamityX12** » Wed Dec 21, 2016 4:19 pm

our pick is going to the Cs and they're going to draft a stud..... its not fair...

shakendfries · Post #130 » by **shakendfries** » Wed Dec 21, 2016 4:27 pm

CalamityX12 wrote:

our pick is going to the Cs and they're going to draft a stud..... its not fair...

Think of it this way- the Nets just have to be better than the Dallas, 76ers, Suns, Timberwolves, Heat, Magic, and Pelicans to keep them from definitely getting someone special. They're only 4 games behind general mediocrity :cry:

Post #131 » by **CalamityX12** » Wed Dec 21, 2016 4:31 pm

shakendfries wrote:
CalamityX12 wrote:

our pick is going to the Cs and they're going to draft a stud..... its not fair...

Think of it this way- the Nets just have to be better than the Dallas, 76ers, Suns, Timberwolves, Heat, Magic, and Pelicans to keep them from definitely getting someone special. They're only 4 games behind general mediocrity

shakendfries · Post #132 » by **shakendfries** » Wed Dec 21, 2016 8:10 pm

I'm a huge fan of this kid

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twosevenstreet · Post #133 » by **twosevenstreet** » Wed Dec 21, 2016 8:42 pm

shakendfries wrote:I'm a huge fan of this kid

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That kids is going to be good and is projected at 22 right now.

The player I'd love to get:

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He's 6'11 250lbs with 7'6wings. He could legit be a Defensive anchor. Also It would be awesome if Harry Giles fell beyond 13 where draft express currently has him.

Paradise · Post #134 » by **Paradise** » Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:18 pm

Based off our range and the current stock of the crop.

PG - Edmond Summers / Juan Evans / Frank Jackson

SG - Terrance Ferguson / Luke Kennard / Grayson Allen

SF - Miles Bridges / Justin Jackson / Jaron Blossomgame

PF - Isaiah Hartenstein / Tyler Lydon / TJ Leaf / Jonathan Jeanne

C - Bam Adabayo / Thomas Bryant / Marquis Bolden / Jarrett Allen / Omer Yurtseven

You can't go wrong with any of these guys at our projected range.

A lot of talented system fit prospects. Lots of stretch fours, shot blocking bigs and three point shooters.

Also, as much as I like Isiah Hartenstein's potential. His limited minutes with Zalgiris scares me a bit. I understand the coaches there are a lot tougher on development. If he's struggling to get a consistent amount of minutes there then he may not be ready for the NBA. He's still 18.

I like TJ Leaf right now a little more.

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MrDollarBills · Post #135 » by **MrDollarBills** » Wed Dec 21, 2016 10:31 pm

Paradise wrote:Based off our range and the current stock of the crop.

PG - Edmond Summers / Juan Evans / Frank Jackson

SG - Terrance Ferguson / Luke Kennard / Grayson Allen

SF - Miles Bridges / Justin Jackson / Jaron Blossomgame

PF - Isaiah Hartenstein / Tyler Lydon / TJ Leaf / Jonathan Jeanne

C - Bam Adabayo / Thomas Bryant / Marquis Bolden / Jarrett Allen / Omer Yurtseven

You can't go wrong with any of these guys at our projected range.

A lot of talented system fit prospects. Lots of stretch fours, shot blocking bigs and three point shooters.

Also, as much as I like Isiah Hartenstein's potential. His limited minutes with Zalgiris scares me a bit. I understand the coaches there are a lot tougher on development. If he's struggling to get a consistent amount of minutes there then he may not be ready for the NBA. He's still 18.

I like TJ Leaf right now a little more.

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i think we need to either go for a two way wing, or an athletic big that can defend both 5/4 and can defend the 1-5 PnR.

Paradise · Post #136 » by **Paradise** » Wed Dec 21, 2016 11:20 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
Paradise wrote:Based off our range and the current stock of the crop.

PG - Edmond Summers / Juan Evans / Frank Jackson

SG - Terrance Ferguson / Luke Kennard / Grayson Allen

SF - Miles Bridges / Justin Jackson / Jaron Blossomgame

PF - Isaiah Hartenstein / Tyler Lydon / TJ Leaf / Jonathan Jeanne

C - Bam Adabayo / Thomas Bryant / Marquis Bolden / Jarrett Allen / Omer Yurtseven

You can't go wrong with any of these guys at our projected range.

A lot of talented system fit prospects. Lots of stretch fours, shot blocking bigs and three point shooters.

Also, as much as I like Isiah Hartenstein's potential. His limited minutes with Zalgiris scares me a bit. I understand the coaches there are a lot tougher on development. If he's struggling to get a consistent amount of minutes there then he may not be ready for the NBA. He's still 18.

I like TJ Leaf right now a little more.

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i think we need to either go for a two way wing, or an athletic big that can defend both 5/4 and can defend the 1-5 PnR.

All of these kids are more polished than last year's class. Take your pick.

Terrence Ferguson

Justin Jackson

Jaron Blossomgame

Bam Adebayo

Thomas Bryant

Jarrett Allen

Robert Williams

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Post #137 » by **CalamityX12** » Thu Dec 22, 2016 3:30 pm

Allen is a punk bass fish......

Kaiser30 · Post #138 » by **Kaiser30** » Thu Dec 22, 2016 6:31 pm

Paradise wrote:Also, as much as I like Isiah Hartenstein's potential. His limited minutes with Zalgiris scares me a bit. I understand the coaches there are a lot tougher on development. If he's struggling to get a consistent amount of minutes there then he may not be ready for the NBA. He's still 18.

While I do understand your concerns, you should probably ask yourself if any first round pick would be ready to step into Zalgiris' rotation right away. I don't think so. This is a very competitive team which plays at the highest level in Europe and coaches can't afford to lose games because of the development of a prospect that might be gone the next summer. So the way I see it, any playing time for Hartenstein is a very good sign. And he plays against men instead of boys. Porzingis played around 20 minutes per game for an inferior team in Spain and nearly 30 minutes in the NBA from the start.

In addition, Hartenstein will already know what it means to be a professional basketball player. Of course he's very young, but I think we should focus on upside anyway. A then just turned 19 year old kid with size, shooting touch, decent athleticism and professional experience seems like a no-brainer outside of the lottery.

This draft class is really really deep, we definitely could use another first.

shakendfries · Post #139 » by **shakendfries** » Thu Dec 22, 2016 10:53 pm

Also worth considering is the NBA Draft elligible product out of Flushing

Hamidou Diallo is the 5-star recruit who could enter the NBA draft or play college basketball right now
Both the NBA and college basketball are patiently waiting on Hamidou Diallo’s decision. It could have far-ranging consequences at both levels.

The NBA opened up a world of possibilities for basketball’s best young talents when it allowed Thon Maker to enter the draft in June as a prep-school player one year removed from high school graduation. The consequences of that decision could be a game-changer for both college basketball and the NBA, and they’re already being felt six months later.

Hamidou Diallo, a 6’6 wing from New York, will likely to be eligible for the 2017 NBA draft under the same loophole that allowed Maker to become the No. 10 overall pick. Diallo has maintained that he’s 100 percent committed to going to college, but Kentucky, UConn, and the other power programs chasing him are well aware he could never step foot on campus.

Diallo had a lot to consider even before a new wrinkle this week changed everything. Diallo was cleared by the NCAA after the first semester, meaning he’d be able to play college basketball right now, this season.

Forget the one-and-done. Diallo could be set to introduce the half-and-done.

Kevin Ollie and UConn have been in tight with him since the beginning. Diallo is taking an official visit to UConn on Thursday and some, like Jerry Meyer of 247 Sports, believe the path is there for him to commit and play for the Huskies this season.

The question of what’s best for Diallo and his draft stock has now become a lot more complicated. Should Diallo play at UConn (or somewhere else) right now, or should he remain in the high school ranks and enter the draft with less visibility? It’s a complex question with no easy answer.

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The case to stay in prep school
Diallo has the potential to be a first-round draft pick off physical tools alone. He has elite athleticism in a 6’6, 190-pound frame with a 6’10 wingspan. The NBA is in dire need of wings who defend and run the floor, and Diallo has the ability to grow into that type of player.

It’s just that Diallo, like any 18-year-old, is far from a finished product. His jumper is spotty, his handle needs to improve, and he’ll have to get a lot stronger. At the FIBA U18 Americas Championship this summer, Diallo was just Team USA’s sixth-leading scorer by averaging 7.6 points per game.

Granted, his otherworldly athletic ability was often on display.

The concern for Diallo is that it’s easier for a player to hide his weaknesses at the high school level than it is in big-time college basketball. The mystery man act worked wonders for Maker, who was drafted in the lottery mostly off the strength of a tape measure and some YouTube highlights.

From the moment Diallo enrolls in college, he’ll be under a harsh microscope. In a deep draft class, he’ll have to weigh whether the benefit that comes with playing two months of college basketball is worth the scrutiny.

The case for playing college basketball right now
Let’s be clear about one thing: While Diallo could be a late first-round pick out of prep school, there’s certainly no guarantee of it. The 2017 NBA draft has been noted for being particularly deep. He could easily slip to the second round and spend the next few years in the D-League fighting for a small number of NBA roster spots hundreds of players covet.

Want to improve your draft stock? Going to college and thriving is the best way to do it.

Let’s say Diallo chooses UConn. The Huskies have plenty of playing time available. UConn has been decimated by injuries during a 5-5 start to the season, but adding Diallo now could give Ollie’s team enough time to gel before trying to make a run in the AAC tournament.

Diallo is going to be bigger and faster than anyone he matches up against in the American. He’s a safe bet to make a few SportsCenter appearances with highlight-reel dunks. If he flashes the ability to be a shutdown defender, that alone could get him drafted in the first round despite the shooting concerns.

The Nets having their own Thon Maker project with all the physical tools to become an impact player has a nice ring to it. Still a bit risky though. He's very obviously dominating inferior competition and as an attacking wing he projects to become in the NBA, there's a risk v reward factor that comes into play. Still, I hope the Nets have scouts evaluating his situation because he'd arguably have the highest ceiling on the roster immediately.

shakendfries · Post #140 » by **shakendfries** » Thu Dec 22, 2016 11:11 pm

Chad Ford's Latest Big Board(via RealGM)

The 2017 NBA Draft will be the "strongest in a decade", according to multiple NBA scouts and general managers. Chad Ford projects 10-15 potential All-Stars in the class, headlined by Markelle Fultz.

Ford elevated Fultz up from No. 3 in his previous big board to No. 1, while Lonzo Ball jumped from No. 6 to No. 2.

Josh Jackson fell from No. 1 to No. 3 with Malik Monk and Dennis Smith rounding out the top-5. Monk was ranked No. 15 in the previous big board.

1. Markelle Fultz
2. Lonzo Ball
3. Josh Jackson
4. Malik Monk
5. Dennis Smith
6. Jayson Tatum
7. Harry Giles
8. Jonathan Isaac
9. De'Aaron Fox
10. Miles Bridges
11. Lauri Markkanen
12. Frank Ntilikina
13. OG Anunoby
14. T.J. Leaf
15. Robert Williams
16. Ivan Rabb
17. Terrance Ferguson
18. Edrice Adebayo
19. Jarrett Allen
20. Marques Bolden