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[MaxZaslofskyJr]

2) supreme court appointments are pretty much lifetime positions. and with 2 others in their 80's we may have trump appoint 2 more. that a real shift in how this country will be shaped and who hears supreme court cases. those rulings set precidents that all future cases will be dependant on. this is scary!

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If you think about it, every aspect of our checks-and-balance system is skewed -albeit arguably slightly - toward the red rural states.

_(1)_the Presidency by the Electoral College by awarding 2 extra electoral votes to each state no matter how many voters it has (compounded by a winner-take-all contest)

_(2)_the Senate (More rural states => in general, more Red State Senators)

_(3)_the House (more Red States => more control of gerrymandering)

_(4) the Supreme Court: see (1) and (2) above.

Kinda crazy.

Now, having said that, I don't see how anyone can take much solace in the fact that Trumperino lost the popular vote. In fairness, there's no way what the turn out would have been if voting took place under a total popular vote approach and what the results would have been. Then on the other other hand, there is pretty good evidence that he might have lost.

[MrDollarBills]

I understand the EC was set up to prevent the larger states from dictating who wins the presidency but this has now paved the way for the red states, which has pockets of people who are basically embracing far right extremism to hijack the country. Other countries are looking at us like we're crazy right now.

All of the most important states in each election are literally rural racist hick states, where people with the least education have votes that carry the most weight. I literally could have stayed home election night (I did not, and will not) because I live in NJ, my vote was meaningless because we don't go by the popular vote. This is how its been in every election that i've voted in since 2000.

When you have citizens being fearful that they don't even belong in their own country anymore, or may be attacked because of their appearance or religion, you have a serious problem on your hands. American Muslim women should not be afraid to walk out of their house wearing their hijab because they'll be targeted. It's kind of infuriating to see this happen.

[MaxZaslofskyJr]

I understand the EC was set up to prevent the larger states from dictating who wins the presidency but this has now paved the way for the red states, which has pockets of people who are basically embracing far right extremism to hijack the country. Other countries are looking at us like we're crazy right now.

I'm all for the protection of minorities which in some circles that's what the Electoral College was supposed to do. But...state boundaries are such an arbitrary thing. The original 13 were leftovers designed by the British as colonies. The Dakotas iirc were brought in as 2 distinct states for the express purpose of stacking the deck. In any event, the set up that we have now doesn't protect all minority views (Fisherman, how about a nice long state along the East Cost to weigh things in their favor? Tech workers? How about making a state out of Silicon Valley?) I'd contend that no E.C. could ever protect all minority view points properly. It'd be impossible to construct such a map.

Never got States Rights. As I drive from Tennessee into Kentucky, do I see the needs of the people of one side of the border differ drastically (at all?) from those on the other? Yet, Tennessee and Kentucky get to be represented twice.

[CalamityX12]

its going to happen

[ChokeFasncists]

https://twitter.com/i/moments/796417517157830656

And these mobsters were angered by being called "deplorables"?

It was supposed to be just election talk but now this is real.

By what moral standard should this not be characterized as deplorable?

What good could this possibly lead to?

Just cuz there are many doing/believing in the same thing doesn't make it non-deplorable.

Now we can better understand what is up with those Lin haters.

[ChokeFasncists]

Man, the horror stories I've been seeing about the abuse young kids are taking in schools across the country right now is making me physically ill. and by young kids, i mean children and teenagers of color (black, asian, indian, latino, muslim) having to deal with outright racist bullying and harrassment. I'm also reading incidents where young women (ESPECIALLY white ones) are being groped and other god awful things. Not to mention muslim, latino, and black women being approached by white males and threatened. Children and women should not have to endure this. I wouldn't care if someone wanted to try me in that manner, i'm a grown man 6'0 215, I'd love for someone to try me but god this is disgusting. Trump's rhetoric and his victory has emboldened the worst of American society.

I'm glad I don't have children yet, seeing this may make me not want to ever have them. I could not imagine going to school to hall way chants of 'white power' and being randomly called a n*gger by some kid who comes from a racist household, seeing a hispanic friend being gleefully told that they're going to get kicked out of the country, a muslim friend being called a terrorist or having their hijab ripped off by some neanderthal, or an asian friend being called a "Jap" to their face, i would have started throwing punches. i know kids nowadays are discouraged from smashing some bully's head in so they have to endure this and it's not right.

either way, it's going to come to a point where people of color are going to have to seriously start looking out for each other no matter what our background is, especially women. and decent americans of all backgrounds need to be mindful that our women and lgbters are also in the line of fire when it comes to these trumptards because anything non white, non straight, and a female is a target.

Wasn't it not too long ago that this was supposed to be funny?

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Not so much anymore.

[ChokeFasncists]

OTOH, wasn't it supposed to be that Bernie lost mainly cuz he lost the black votes?

Wassup with that?

[shakendfries]

OTOH, wasn't it supposed to be that Bernie lost mainly cuz he lost the black votes?

Wassup with that?

The black vote is only significant on a superficial level. Black ppl are 12% of America.

There are no SuperPACs funded by black voters and even with a high turnout (since only half of americans vote) the black population isn't large enough to be a deciding factor in any election.





The black vote is a meaningless special interest group that democrats dab, shimmy, and cupid shuffle for every election in a blatant display of pandering. It's honestly become a sickening and blatantly racist display for a growing number of black voters

[shakendfries]

Wasn't it not too long ago that this was supposed to be funny?

Watch on YouTube

Not so much anymore.

Don't you dare sully the work of The Great David Chappelle, one of the greatest comedians of our era. Dave has always used his comedy to provide some of the most sharp and poignant views on race relations within the country

Watch on YouTube

Watch on YouTube

"This is Trump's America now boy!"

[MrDollarBills]

There are no SuperPACs funded by black voters

and I have been telling other black people that this is the problem.

Now there COULD be superpacs funded by black voters, but the collective effort is non existent.

Jewish Americans have a superpowered PAC. How many people in America make up the jewish population?

When you see Lebron, Carmelo, Chris Paul, etc get on tv and talk about making change, they aren't serious about it. because they either aren't educated on how politics work in this nation, or they don't want to put up money. i'll wager the latter, since money leads to information unsolicited or not. they know, and they will make espy statements and facebook posts but they won't spearhead a legitimate black american PAC.

AND...

i don't blame them if they don't want to put up money to drive a black SuperPAC because they wouldn't be the only ones not doing it.this has been going on for years

[shakendfries]

There are no SuperPACs funded by black voters

and I have been telling other black people that this is the problem.

Now there COULD be superpacs funded by black voters, but the collective effort is non existent.

Jewish Americans have a superpowered PAC. How many people in America make up the jewish population?

When you see Lebron, Carmelo, Chris Paul, etc get on tv and talk about making change, they aren't serious about it. because they either aren't educated on how politics work in this nation, or they don't want to put up money. i'll wager the latter, since money leads to information unsolicited or not. they know, and they will make espy statements and facebook posts but they won't spearhead a legitimate black american PAC.

AND...

i don't blame them if they don't want to put up money to drive a black SuperPAC because they wouldn't be the only ones not doing it.this has been going on for years

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[shakendfries]

Not sure how I feel about the host's interjection's of his own sentiments to the elections, but Noam shares some compelling thoughts here

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[sutton]

pizzagate

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http://vigilantcitizen.com/vigilantreport/pizzagate-4chan-uncovered-sick-world-washingtons-occult-elite/

rabbit hole: http://vigilantcitizen.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=3937

[ChokeFasncists]

OTOH, wasn't it supposed to be that Bernie lost mainly cuz he lost the black votes?

Wassup with that?

The black vote is only significant on a superficial level. Black ppl are 12% of America.

There are no SuperPACs funded by black voters and even with a high turnout (since only half of americans vote) the black population isn't large enough to be a deciding factor in any election.





The black vote is a meaningless special interest group that democrats dab, shimmy, and cupid shuffle for every election in a blatant display of pandering. It's honestly become a sickening and blatantly racist display for a growing number of black voters

Well, as a whole maybe. But if other votes are close, it's a certain battle ground state for the Democratic primaries and the black votes are lopsided, it might be the difference?

[ChokeFasncists]

Wasn't it not too long ago that this was supposed to be funny?

Watch on YouTube

Not so much anymore.

Don't you dare sully the work of The Great David Chappelle, one of the greatest comedians of our era. Dave has always used his comedy to provide some of the most sharp and poignant views on race relations within the country

Watch on YouTube

Watch on YouTube

"This is Trump's America now boy!"

By no means do I mean to sully it, just trying to point out how the situation has changed for the worse.

[shakendfries]

Wasn't it not too long ago that this was supposed to be funny?

Watch on YouTube

Not so much anymore.

Don't you dare sully the work of The Great David Chappelle, one of the greatest comedians of our era. Dave has always used his comedy to provide some of the most sharp and poignant views on race relations within the country

Watch on YouTube

Watch on YouTube

"This is Trump's America now boy!"

By no means do I mean to sully it, just trying point out how the situation has changed for the worse.

I understand you. A lot of the racist sentiments that are now coming to light are so embedded within the country, I don't think it'll ever change. If I'm not mistaken, the state of Oregon was founded with the intention of being a whites only state.

When Oregon was granted statehood in 1859, it was the only state in the Union admitted with a constitution that forbade black people from living, working, or owning property there. It was illegal for black people even to move to the state until 1926. Oregon’s founding is part of the forgotten history of racism in the American west.

Waddles Coffee Shop in Portland, Oregon was a popular restaurant in the 1950s for both locals and travelers alike. The drive-in catered to America’s postwar obsession with car culture, allowing people to get coffee and a slice of pie without even leaving their vehicle. But if you happened to be black, the owners of Waddles implored you to keep on driving. The restaurant had a sign outside with a very clear message: “White Trade Only — Please.”

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I mean, at the end of the day, increased awareness or sensitivity/complaining about racism/sexism/homophobia is pointless. Not everyone is going to like each other and everyone has some bias one way or another. Screw them- embrace your identity, and find a way to empower yourself and put yourself in a position to empower those like you. Succeeding in spite of these obstacles is far more powerful than dwelling on a particular individual.

And institutionalized systems that persecute or penalize largely based on race & class are far more insidious to the country as a whole than symbols or words. I'm not convinced that the BLM vs Blue Lives Matter Debate isn't deliberate on behalf of the media via social engineering to distract the masses from serious discussions on the justice system outside of academic circles. But without the organization of business owners to harness the power of PACs to influence policy towards changing this, nothing will ever change.

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[ChokeFasncists]

Not sure how I feel about the host's interjection's of his own sentiments to the elections, but Noam shares some compelling thoughts here

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The climate change thing is seriously a huge shame.

[Pistolpete1947]

Donald Trump is against the recount in 3 swing states yet says he won the popular vote because millions of illegal aliens voted.

By his very words a recount is justified.

[tonman]

It's not about awareness. It's about diversity. Why do you think urban centers are more liberal? Just cause more minorities live thereand vote? You have to define what you think you are. What is that? What makes America great isn't it's economy isn't it's military it's it's people and their freedom. When we start splitting America apart whether it be race sex or sexual orientation or religion we are bringing down what makes America great. Why do you think Russia wants trump America? Ask yourself what is great about America. It would be interesting to see what others believe.

[Pistolpete1947]

The only hope I have for America after this election is that the Republicans will pass legislation that will cause voters to voice their displeasure by voting them out in 2018. Paul Ryan is already planning to change Medicare by giving vouchers and leaving seniors to have to deal with private insurance companies. All the details are not out but seniors are very happy with Medicare as it is and would be distressed if some ideologue attempts to mess with it.