Nets @ Wiz | 11.03.2021 @ 7:00 PM on YES

[MrDollarBills]

Eh, I'm not giving up on Harden. I think he needs to play with more urgency when initiating the offense. But it wasn't like he wasn't out there trying to make things happen, but my god why is he taking so long to move. Last year he was a lot more decisive and crisper and I can't help but think it was because or MDA's offense.

Why has he sucked all year?

So passive, slow, indecisive.

I wouldn't say that he's sucked, but his efficiency at the rim has been really bad and he's just taking way too long to initiate .

Bro I'll be honest with you I have no idea what is going on. The Nets hide it well but I think this team has serious internal issues.

[GTR11]

Well it took couple weeks for you guys starting yo notice how disengage Harden been for some time now.

There is something going on. It's toxic.

We would be CRAZY to invest 100 million in him this off season.

Let Morey take on this crap. Please.

Go take a sleep and cool off. We won't win s*** without him.

Just say to yourself what I do... "" in Marks/Tsai I trust ".

[TheNetsFan]

Well it took couple weeks for you guys starting yo notice how disengage Harden been for some time now.

There is something going on. It's toxic.

I get a lot of Deron vibes. Athleticism and conditioning falling of a cliff, but also thrives in a very defined systems and struggles outside of one I think his indecisiveness and tentativeness is because we're playing an iso-heavy pickup game offensively.

[GTR11]

Well it took couple weeks for you guys starting yo notice how disengage Harden been for some time now.

There is something going on. It's toxic.

I get a lot of Deron vibes. Athleticism and conditioning falling of a cliff, but also thrives in a very defined systems and struggles outside of one I think his indecisiveness and tentativeness is because we're playing an iso-heavy pickup game offensively.

Guys last month when I was going at Harden most where calling me out!!!

This was/is consistent game to game situations. A lot is going on. When he's in a good mood he's been fantastic. When he's not, well we get games like this. Like I said it's toxic.

See y'all tomorrow. Just hope for better and say to yourself - " in Marks/Tsai I trust " - take it day at the time.

[MrDollarBills]

Sharpe with 10/6/2/2/1 in minutes.


To me when Harris and KD come back, Sharpe and Edwards should be in the rotation. Cam probably loses time to Harris.

[CalamityX12]

Despite the ups n downs from Harden, no way we moving him. Only ball handler star we have allowed to play in Brooklyn lol

[Hello Brooklyn]

Bulls looking like they will hold on. We could have taken the lead from them if they lost.

[MrDollarBills]

I think that the coach has to dictate the style of play. Nash needs to have a video session with Harden and they need to have a come to Jesus moment. I don't care about Harden’s efficiency right now. He has got to handle the ball with more urgency as the primary ball handler. When he crosses past half court, move the ball, get it back.

Our primary issue is that we don't shift the defense in the half court. Common sense basketball is shifting the defense via ball movement and screens and taking the openings. Standing 5 out, no movement and dribbling into contested shots is YMCA ball

[MGrand15]

Love what I'm seeing out of Sharpe and Edwards. Those guys need to be in the rotation regardless of health. Sharpe's play on both ends has honestly made Clax expendable for the right move. I love the dude but it says so much about him that he didn't gain one pound over the offseason.

The coaching staff should all get the boot for the end of this game. Not going offense/defense for Mills and Brown after LMAs free throws is inexcusable. Then to make it worse, they (or Kyrie himself) decided to put Kyrie on Beal with a weak full court press. Of course Beal gets to the rim in 3 seconds and creates an open Kuzma 3.

[Jay555]

did not watch the whole game. How did Harden go from 0 turnover in the first half to 8 turnovers in the second half? He will bounce back.. The thing I am concerned about is his mintunes. He's close to 40 mins again and played the whole 4th quarter. How many 12 mins 4th quarter has he played now this season? Can Nash give him a breather? You can not play this dude 40 mins a game. You know what happened last season.

At least we came away with a W and chemistry wise things seem ok. Kess/Sharpe both are keepers. It's hard to find rooks that are NBA ready in their first season and we got three.

Let's get more W on this road trip.

[MGrand15]

I think that the coach has to dictate the style of play. Nash needs to have a video session with Harden and they need to have a come to Jesus moment. I don't care about Harden’s efficiency right now. He has got to handle the ball with more urgency as the primary ball handler. When he crosses past half court, move the ball, get it back.

Our primary issue is that we don't shift the defense in the half court. Common sense basketball is shifting the defense via ball movement and screens and taking the openings. Standing 5 out, no movement and dribbling into contested shots is YMCA ball

100% on Harden. The difference is crazy when Patty and Kyrie are on the floor. They actually try to get us into our sets quickly. They force the defense to react. Harden takes 10 seconds to get it up. 4 seconds surveying the defense. Then finally we get a PNR or a Kyrie or KD ISO. There's literally no time to shift the defense.

I've been saying - if Harden is gonna keep doing this, we need Patty or Kyrie bringing it up court 90% of the time. Let James play more off ball.

[Jay555]

Read on Twitter

[Hello Brooklyn]

Next game is gonna be a likely disaster.

No Kyrie anymore. Harden will have to do everything.

Fans haven't seen a win in weeks. What a disgrace.

[Suwanee]

Next game is gonna be a likely disaster.

No Kyrie anymore. Harden will have to do everything.

Fans haven't seen a win in weeks. What a disgrace.

Why? Aren’t we on a 4-game road trip?

[sashaturiaf]

I've decided to abstain from watching Nets games for a bit so it was good reading everyone's thoughts on this game, since if I did watch this I would have hated myself for giving in.

Half a season in we still have no identity as a team, there is plenty of talent and things to like on this team (the play of the rookies and Patty Mills for one) but we still have zero consistency in any one area from game to game. And to me that just signals leadership issues, we don't have a defined #1 vocal leader on the squad and Nash is too inexperienced and out of his depth to manage a team with expectations like this one.

I'll definitely be back after a break since I think even in the worst case we will contend for a title since we can just outttalent everybody, just need a bit of luck going our way. But I'll be much happier if we can actually play the special basketball that our squad should be capable of

[Jay555]

Next game is gonna be a likely disaster.

No Kyrie anymore. Harden will have to do everything.

Fans haven't seen a win in weeks. What a disgrace.

Relax. Two more road games.

[Prokorov]

Eh, I'm not giving up on Harden. I think he needs to play with more urgency when initiating the offense. But it wasn't like he wasn't out there trying to make things happen, but my god why is he taking so long to move. Last year he was a lot more decisive and crisper and I can't help but think it was because or MDA's offense.

Why has he sucked all year?

So passive, slow, indecisive.

I wouldn't say that he's sucked, but his efficiency at the rim has been really bad and he's just taking way too long to initiate .

Bro I'll be honest with you I have no idea what is going on. The Nets hide it well but I think this team has serious internal issues.

I dont understand this notion that harden isnt playing well... or worse, is playing poorly. He has played at All-star Starter/All-NBA level this season.

23/10/8 on 59TS% on a team with a top 5 record in the NBA.

if you throw away the first 10 games as he was clearly working back into shape/adjusting to rules targeting him he is 25/10.5/8.5 on 60.5 TS%... which is basically where he was last year.

His efficiency is down, but still among the leaders for non-bigs. To put it in perspective Harden is at 59.0 TS% and steph curry is at 59.2. With the new rules being 2.4% lower then his number last year isnt far off at all.

[Prokorov]

I think that the coach has to dictate the style of play. Nash needs to have a video session with Harden and they need to have a come to Jesus moment. I don't care about Harden’s efficiency right now. He has got to handle the ball with more urgency as the primary ball handler. When he crosses past half court, move the ball, get it back.

Again, what is wrong with Harden's efficiency? 59 TS%, top 20 among non-bigs, and top 8 for guys who score 20+. .002% behind Steph Curry. And that is with a bad first few weeks/new rules targeting him. I agree we walk it up too much, but Harden has been great. The coaches need to actually put guys in spots to succeed.

Our primary issue is that we don't shift the defense in the half court. Common sense basketball is shifting the defense via ball movement and screens and taking the openings. Standing 5 out, no movement and dribbling into contested shots is YMCA ball

Yeah, we have guys with huge gravity but keep them stand still on the wing. where they will never ever ever require off-ball help/doubles

[Prokorov]

Shocked at some of the narrative here, i expected different after watching the game. my thoughts:

1) AWFUL coaching to ends this game. How do you not go defense for offense after the LMA FT puts you up 4? How are you not in your players ears with "No threes no fouls" up 4 with under 40 seconds to go? We dont sub in defenders and we overhelp with 3 guys on a 2 giving up the wide open 3. Why did we abandon pick and roll late when it destroyed them and got mismatch switches all game? Why are we going under on beal on scrans up 6 (where a 2 point allowed sitll Keeps it at a 2 possesion game). Why are we running so long with the brown/kessler/thomas/lma group that was doing nothing all game?

2) I dont get the Harden hate. not a great second half but he has been outstanding for us. Our offense wasnt the issue, we dropped 120. Harden is playing at all-star starter level. If nash would get his head out of his rear and maxmize our players and put them in spots ot succeed it would look alot better too. Harden also is worn. on the road he is going to lean on Kyrie. if he is going to play 40, he needs to pick his spots to coast. especially with no KD and home games he is going to have to carry an enormous load.

3) Kyrie is so dynamic. He is a huge crutch for the coaches. KD is obviously better but if we have KD tonight instead of Kyrie we probably score 105 instead of 119. They would just camp KD in the mid baseline post and he would ball watch for 20 seconds. Kyrie is another ball handler who is more aggressive/naturally going to have the ball attacking more early in the clock.

When we have all 3, it really is scary hours. Kyrie/Harden alone is just unstoppable.

4) We cant have lineups with just 1 of Harden/Mills/Kyrie. rotate so 2 are on the floor at all times until Harris is back

5) LMA off the bench is perfect. i hope nash doesnt over react and start him again. we need pick and rolls with Kyrie/Harden shooting or throwing lobs. Not LMA pick and pops to put the offense in a coma. but off the bench, those easy points when both teams go to their reserves are huge. Post ups becomes much better offense when your midway through the 2nd and your posting up some 6'8" stretch role player.

6) Cam Thomas is a gunner... so he should be gunning. But he also needs score/situation awareness. He cant be chucking up long step back twos 4 seconds into the clock when they just cut the lead from 8 to 2. Rookie lessons, he will get it. important balance to keep the aggressiveness but know when to pull back and give it to a star.

This is a bad taste game we desrved to lose. didnt score last 2 possesions despite an offensive rebound and gave them 2 looks, 1 wide open, at a game winner. This is a game we should have won by double digits. we were up 14 early in the 4th with 2 of our players going off offensively. You basically need to not be dumb on defense and not turn it over. those are 2 things you can control with coaching.

28-16 with the spure/wolves coming up. we should be 30-16 headed back home. Last year after 46 games we were.... 30-16.

We Get Harris back. KD gets some rest while rehabbing. Kyrie ramping up. COVID cases going down with mandate hopefully to follow. Nash is a wet blanket but things are setup for us to look really good post all-star break

[Prokorov]

I hope these guys are just coasting until the playoffs, because we never match the intensity and focus of our opponents. We have way too many mental lapses and lack of hustle plays, and the vets are the biggest culprits.

You cant rely 100% on your stars, run an 8 man rotations, play the sars 40 minutes, and then be surprised when they find their spots to coast and blow big leads.

Nash needs run a real scheme, use his players, and not just roll the ball out and hope for the best.

You shoudl be able to win most of your games getting 34-36 from kyrie and harden or kd and harden. and there should be tons where they play 30 or less in blowouts.