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[Jay555]

Yes I think they will. You have to have some semblance of a system. It doesn't have to be the Triangle. But players have to have some idea what they are doing.

Also all Kyrie meant that it was a collaborative effort. Hes done nothing to prove hes not willing to listen or coachable while playing for the Nets.

What would trading Kyrie do exactly?

He had no value. He probably wouldn't even report anywhere else. And we still have the primary issue. NASH.

Trading Kyrie would remove someone who isn't all in. I'm sure they can get someone who cares about the game. In terms of a new coach, if it ain't iso ball the stars ain't gonna listen. Harden, Kd and Kyrie are iso first guys so to expect them to buy into a ball movement heavy style this late into their careers isn't realistic. Kd was having issues with Kerr and the Warriors were stacked and they also just knocked him out of the playoffs with that ball movement style but he just wanted to clear out and do his own thing. It doesn't matter how Kyrie and Kd meant it, you don't say that about your coach. It's unprofessional and disrespectful! Nash isn't the best coach but you can't diss the man like that.

Trade Kyrie for what??? Nothing? That helps?

Are you insane?

Our problem is not Kyrie. Our problem is the team has no idea what its doing!!!!

Harden/Kyrie are not obsessed with iso ball. They want to win.

Dude, you are on Prok's level when it comes to defending Kyrie.

The problem is Kyrie not wanting to get the shot with the incompetent Nash being a close second.

Also Kyrie does not want to win. If he does, he would get the shot and show up at Barcaley center.

[GYK]

If trading Harden is the solution he’s not just a mediocre GM he’s a bad GM.
Ben Simmons a great player. No complaints is even more so a specific style than James. How are you expected to play with him with these non shooters? Ben needs a even greater undertaking of reconstructing the roster.
All we need is 3&D wings and rebounding.

3 & D wings are hard to acquaire.

They aren’t. You are just thinking of the best guys. All we needed were sf/pf guys who can move their feet and hit a few spot ups. I mean Roco just got traded but who cares we just needed small Sterling Brown like contracts to flank our stars.

[MrDollarBills]

We told y’all about Kyrie in July, 2019. Lol

You guys are so salty and pathetic.

Its not even mostly Kyries fault.

If we had a real coach this wouldn't be happening.

Bro if I were to post on your board you would be asking the mods to ban me.

I would gladly engage you on this Kyrie conversation but you asked the mods on the Boston board to have me dealt with. That's literally what you did to me. Are you stupid? You are a huge pussy

I think that I'm going to report you for Trolling. Let's start there.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Trading Kyrie would remove someone who isn't all in. I'm sure they can get someone who cares about the game. In terms of a new coach, if it ain't iso ball the stars ain't gonna listen. Harden, Kd and Kyrie are iso first guys so to expect them to buy into a ball movement heavy style this late into their careers isn't realistic. Kd was having issues with Kerr and the Warriors were stacked and they also just knocked him out of the playoffs with that ball movement style but he just wanted to clear out and do his own thing. It doesn't matter how Kyrie and Kd meant it, you don't say that about your coach. It's unprofessional and disrespectful! Nash isn't the best coach but you can't diss the man like that.

Trade Kyrie for what??? Nothing? That helps?

Are you insane?

Our problem is not Kyrie. Our problem is the team has no idea what its doing!!!!

Harden/Kyrie are not obsessed with iso ball. They want to win.

Dude, you are on Prok's level when it comes to defending Kyrie.

The problem is Kyrie not wanting to get the shot with the incompetent Nash being a close second.

Also Kyrie does not want to win. If he does, he would get the shot and show up at Barcaley center.

Dude I'm not even defending Kyrie.

I'm just saying why trade him? Like how that help???

Its not going to make us good.

[Jay555]

Trade Kyrie for what??? Nothing? That helps?

Are you insane?

Our problem is not Kyrie. Our problem is the team has no idea what its doing!!!!

Harden/Kyrie are not obsessed with iso ball. They want to win.

Dude, you are on Prok's level when it comes to defending Kyrie.

The problem is Kyrie not wanting to get the shot with the incompetent Nash being a close second.

Also Kyrie does not want to win. If he does, he would get the shot and show up at Barcaley center.

Dude I'm not even defending Kyrie.

I'm just saying why trade him? Like how that help???

Its not going to make us good.

Agreed with that.

KD - untouchable.
Kyrie -untradable due to no takers.
Harden - wants to leave and will at least fetch some assets back

[Prokorov]

I think Harden just needs some time off. Thats fine.

But we need to find a way to win without him. I don't buy that we don't have the talent.

Jazz without Gobert are not good at all. If Kyrie Nets can almost beat GS they can beat this Jazz team.

you need absurd riches of talent with nash though. he isnt winning with just talent, he needs like the 92 dream team

[Prokorov]

Prok, I told you that Harden and Kyrie had issues. That crap about them being tight and everyone supporting Kyrie is BS. Kyrie was talking passive aggressive about Harden to the media for weeks and Harden kept saying there were internal issues.

I don't blame Harden for not wanting to play with Kyrie. But we need to move on from Harden and play at a better pace.

They dont have issues. they are super tight on and off the floor.

[Xtruroyaltyx77]

I think the flaws you see are just because KD is not there. KD is the big game guy. The big moment guy. The carry a team despite what's going on guy.

Neither Harden nor Irving are THAT guy.

Closest Harden ever came was when he had an alpha leader along side him in CP3 and Irving with Lebron. Irving had a good team in Boston and they didn't do much of anything.

I watched the clips on twitter of all of James' lapses in the Kings game....him walking the ball up court...the general lackadaisical nature of his play...That is James. It's who he has always been. But he is so talented and so good with the ball in his hands and when things aren't going well you start to notice those flaws. I believe it's because if he doesn't have the ball in his hands he doesn't really affect the game in any other way.

He's one of if not the best player all time at having the ball in his hands and being able to score and assist the ball...But he is not a good defender and falls asleep a lot, and on offense if he doesn't have the ball often times he just kinda...stands around...

I'm not sure that they can survive and wait on KD to get back with the way it's going.

Regarding the potential 76ers trade, I think there's a good chance a deal gets done. Either 1) Harden let them know he was ok with, or wanted to be moved or 2) He didn't say anything and now he knows that the team is entertaining offers for him

Either way, I don't think the leak of them entertaining offers is a good thing.

[Prokorov]

Kyrie, are you pissed right now?

If you had fire in you, go man the **** up and get the shot for the team.

KD, stop being a soft ass. Start actually calling the **** shots.

Have a meeting with Kyrie and Harden. Sort things out. Do what each needs to do and sacrifice for the team.

That's your last chance to save the big 3.

Why would he get the shot? its not a basketball decision. it is absurd fans think he should make health choices based on a game.

Like disgustingly ignorant

[Prokorov]

I think the flaws you see are just because KD is not there. KD is the big game guy. The big moment guy. The carry a team despite what's going on guy.

Neither Harden nor Irving are THAT guy.

Closest Harden ever came was when he had an alpha leader along side him in CP3 and Irving with Lebron. Irving had a good team in Boston and they didn't do much of anything.

I watched the clips on twitter of all of James' lapses in the Kings game....him walking the ball up court...the general lackadaisical nature of his play...That is James. It's who he has always been. But he is so talented and so good with the ball in his hands and when things aren't going well you start to notice those flaws. I believe it's because if he doesn't have the ball in his hands he doesn't really affect the game in any other way.

He's one of if not the best player all time at having the ball in his hands and being able to score and assist the ball...But he is not a good defender and falls asleep a lot, and on offense if he doesn't have the ball often times he just kinda...stands around...

I'm not sure that they can survive and wait on KD to get back with the way it's going.

Regarding the potential 76ers trade, I think there's a good chance a deal gets done. Either 1) Harden let them know he was ok with, or wanted to be moved or 2) He didn't say anything and now he knows that the team is entertaining offers for him

Either way, I don't think the leak of them entertaining offers is a good thing.

The issue is nash. We struggled when KD was playing... we couldnt break 105 points with Harden and KD. our offense was so bad nash was saying "we have to win with defense"

We lost to trash teams with Harden/KD
We lost to trash teams with KD/Kyrie
We lost to trash teams with Harden/Kyrie

with all 3 we stomp everyone. thats what nash needs not to suck.

Marks is also a huge problem. he let this team go too long with no shooting and relied on nash to actually do some coaching.

[Jay555]

Kyrie, are you pissed right now?

If you had fire in you, go man the **** up and get the shot for the team.

KD, stop being a soft ass. Start actually calling the **** shots.

Have a meeting with Kyrie and Harden. Sort things out. Do what each needs to do and sacrifice for the team.

That's your last chance to save the big 3.

Why would he get the shot? its not a basketball decision. it is absurd fans think he should make health choices based on a game.

Like disgustingly ignorant

It does not work on a team sports tho. You can argue all you like. The result is showing.

[Prokorov]

Kyrie, are you pissed right now?

If you had fire in you, go man the **** up and get the shot for the team.

KD, stop being a soft ass. Start actually calling the **** shots.

Have a meeting with Kyrie and Harden. Sort things out. Do what each needs to do and sacrifice for the team.

That's your last chance to save the big 3.

Why would he get the shot? its not a basketball decision. it is absurd fans think he should make health choices based on a game.

Like disgustingly ignorant

It does not work on a team sports tho. You can argue all you like. The result is showing.

A pandemic happens once every 100-200 years. this is an unprecedented situation that Kyrie did not create. The decision to get the shot is not a basketball decision. its awful luck for him, the nets, the fans. the idea he should let a losing streak effect his health choices is beyond absurd.

[Xtruroyaltyx77]

I think the flaws you see are just because KD is not there. KD is the big game guy. The big moment guy. The carry a team despite what's going on guy.

Neither Harden nor Irving are THAT guy.

Closest Harden ever came was when he had an alpha leader along side him in CP3 and Irving with Lebron. Irving had a good team in Boston and they didn't do much of anything.

I watched the clips on twitter of all of James' lapses in the Kings game....him walking the ball up court...the general lackadaisical nature of his play...That is James. It's who he has always been. But he is so talented and so good with the ball in his hands and when things aren't going well you start to notice those flaws. I believe it's because if he doesn't have the ball in his hands he doesn't really affect the game in any other way.

He's one of if not the best player all time at having the ball in his hands and being able to score and assist the ball...But he is not a good defender and falls asleep a lot, and on offense if he doesn't have the ball often times he just kinda...stands around...

I'm not sure that they can survive and wait on KD to get back with the way it's going.

Regarding the potential 76ers trade, I think there's a good chance a deal gets done. Either 1) Harden let them know he was ok with, or wanted to be moved or 2) He didn't say anything and now he knows that the team is entertaining offers for him

Either way, I don't think the leak of them entertaining offers is a good thing.

The issue is nash. We struggled when KD was playing... we couldnt break 105 points with Harden and KD. our offense was so bad nash was saying "we have to win with defense"

We lost to trash teams with Harden/KD
We lost to trash teams with KD/Kyrie
We lost to trash teams with Harden/Kyrie

with all 3 we stomp everyone. thats what nash needs not to suck.

Marks is also a huge problem. he let this team go too long with no shooting and relied on nash to actually do some coaching.

Maybe so, but when KD was there the Nets were still the top seed. There was no 7 game losing streaks and not much talk of actually moving Harden before the deadline. There wasn't a large sense of dejection. That was without Kyrie even being part time at first.

And maybe with all three the Nets win it all, but how reliable is that? Harden had the injury last year and is maybe still dealing with stuff...Kyrie has dealt with injuries throughout his career plus he's part time as of now...and KD is dealing with something right now...

Best hope is for Kyrie to get the shot and then for all three to get and remain healthy.

[NetsJets]

KD was carrying a bad team plain and simple

[GTR11]

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This one was actually good listen. Even though I can give them few arguments that most likely will change their thoughts, most is on point.

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[MrDollarBills]

We are playing like the worst team in the league right now and its not close. Cannot beat anybody.

The streak will not end anytime soon. We will lose to the Nuggets, the Celtics, the Wizards after that.

Nash has lost the team.

Its seems Marks wants to trade Harden as the solution. Thats not the solution to the main problem. NASH.

He needs to go immediately. There should be Fire Nash chants at every home game from now. I'm sick of this mess.

Even if Nash goes whoever you bring in will have to run an iso system. You think these stars are going to buy into a legit system? remember what the flat earther said? "we don't need a coach" and his little cheerleader giggling alongside him. What you're seeing is what happens when you allow your stars to dictate every move of the front office. Kyrie is still here because his bff won't allow him to get traded. Even though the goal is to get a title and he has made it clear that basketball doesn't really matter that much to him. Only way this gets fixed is if the Owner grows a set and puts these divas in their place.

I have to say at this point I 100% agree with this

Kyrie is a toxic presence and needs to go, but KD is too caught up their friendship to put winning first.

Nets fans need to come to the realization that these guys don't care.

[MrDollarBills]

Why would he get the shot? its not a basketball decision. it is absurd fans think he should make health choices based on a game.

Like disgustingly ignorant

It does not work on a team sports tho. You can argue all you like. The result is showing.

A pandemic happens once every 100-200 years. this is an unprecedented situation that Kyrie did not create. The decision to get the shot is not a basketball decision. its awful luck for him, the nets, the fans. the idea he should let a losing streak effect his health choices is beyond absurd.

I love how you try to frame his antivax stance as some positive health choice. It's disingenuous and I cringe when you frame it that way.

I'm pretty frustrated so I'm not gonna take it out on you my dude, but Kyrie is apart of the problems too whether you want to admit or not. Fans have every right to be upset about this situation.

All of this blind defense of Kyrie Irving is going to look foolish when the season ends and some reporter drops all the dirt on what is happening behind the scenes. Mark my words.

[MrDollarBills]

Prok, I told you that Harden and Kyrie had issues. That crap about them being tight and everyone supporting Kyrie is BS. Kyrie was talking passive aggressive about Harden to the media for weeks and Harden kept saying there were internal issues.

I don't blame Harden for not wanting to play with Kyrie. But we need to move on from Harden and play at a better pace.

They dont have issues. they are super tight on and off the floor.

You are lying to yourself.

Why keep repeating this when it is clearly obvious that things are not even remotely this way?

[MrDollarBills]

We can go 2 and 8 in next 10 games. Play in? Duh f*** out here. We actually can be right there with Bing Bong clowns.

My sig is about to be true.

Welcome. Cookies and punch in the upper room

Things are looking bleak in NY sports right now

[Fallout_3]

Trade Harden if he doesn’t want to be here AND fire Nash. And then we can talk.