NYC Mandate: Kyrie Irving Eligibility Discussion

[Prokorov]

There is nothing selfish about making a personal health choice.

what is selfish is asking someone to change their health decisions so your basketball team is better.

You do realize this was not about Kyrie sticking a needle in his arm, right? This was all a political stance he took and refused to get vaccinated as a result of NYC's mandate. In other words, it was not a personal health choice, but rather a political stance which he used to screw over the Nets.

The dude is under the knife more than a Kardashian. He clearly has no issue with modern medicine. This is a political thing. Nets fans have every right to be pissed.

He has had his surgies done outside of the recommendation of teams to accommodate his preference

i wouldnt think a racist boston fan would care though.

[Prokorov]

he has more desire to play then anyone on the team.

he just has principals and things that matter to him besides money

To be this willfully obtuse is incredible.

Why? Yall keep saying kyrie doesnt want to play/win. So why didnt come into the season 40lbs overweight, go to strip clubs before west coast trips, not give effort on defense, hustle for loose balls.

Precisely. Harden showed us what not wanting to play looks like.,

there is a difference between not wanting to play/not caring and having 2 things you want in conflict and being forced to choose.

[ajones9219]

You do realize this was not about Kyrie sticking a needle in his arm, right? This was all a political stance he took and refused to get vaccinated as a result of NYC's mandate. In other words, it was not a personal health choice, but rather a political stance which he used to screw over the Nets.

The dude is under the knife more than a Kardashian. He clearly has no issue with modern medicine. This is a political thing. Nets fans have every right to be pissed.

He has had his surgies done outside of the recommendation of teams to accommodate his preference

i wouldnt think a racist boston fan would care though.

How is it whenever to don't have a real argument you just jump to calling racism? Get over yourself

[NetsWorld]

There is nothing selfish about making a personal health choice.

what is selfish is asking someone to change their health decisions so your basketball team is better.

You do realize this was not about Kyrie sticking a needle in his arm, right? This was all a political stance he took and refused to get vaccinated as a result of NYC's mandate. In other words, it was not a personal health choice, but rather a political stance which he used to screw over the Nets.

it was a personal health decision. he refused vaccination before the mandate

You are just so wrong dude. Please give it up, he told Marks he was getting vaccinated and LIED about it. You really act like you know the details when in fact he testified himself he was never anti vaxxx and this ALL HAD TO DO WITH THE MANDATE! No mandate means his dumb ass may have gotten vaccinated unless he forged another excuse! Please just stop already, this season has been a disaster as it is, I am tired of hearing baseless arguments in defense of this guy.

[NetsWorld]

The dude is under the knife more than a Kardashian. He clearly has no issue with modern medicine. This is a political thing. Nets fans have every right to be pissed.

He has had his surgies done outside of the recommendation of teams to accommodate his preference

i wouldnt think a racist boston fan would care though.

How is it whenever to don't have a real argument you just jump to calling racism? Get over yourself

I wish we listened to Boston fans back in 2019 about this drama queen; the likelihood he opts in is high and will most like find more excuses to not play.

[ajones9219]

He has had his surgies done outside of the recommendation of teams to accommodate his preference

i wouldnt think a racist boston fan would care though.

How is it whenever to don't have a real argument you just jump to calling racism? Get over yourself

I wish we listened to Boston fans back in 2019 about this drama queen; the likelihood he opts in is high and will most like find more excuses to not play.

Honestly if someone still wants to like kyrie that's fine. He's a polarizing player but adds relevance to a team well beyond his production. I just get sick of prok calling me and all Boston fans racist whenever he doesn't have an argument. You can dislike kyrie without being a racist. Case in point a lot of people in this thread I imagine. The dude absolutely has screwed you guys since arriving in Brooklyn.

[NetsWorld]

How is it whenever to don't have a real argument you just jump to calling racism? Get over yourself

I wish we listened to Boston fans back in 2019 about this drama queen; the likelihood he opts in is high and will most like find more excuses to not play.

Honestly if someone still wants to like kyrie that's fine. He's a polarizing player but adds relevance to a team well beyond his production. I just get sick of prok calling me and all Boston fans racist whenever he doesn't have an argument. You can dislike kyrie without being a racist. Case in point a lot of people in this thread I imagine. The dude absolutely has screwed you guys since arriving in Brooklyn.

I agree, you don't have to be racist to dislike someone. Kyrie's choices that have impacted our team and hurt our fans, which pay money to see these guys perform, is a solid reason not to like this guy. Both the Nets and fans of the Nets are sick of him; after the Boston game, KD indirectly called out Kyrie by nearly blaming him for what has happened this season. KD said, "You can point the fingers on other things this season, but that's not gonna do anything". Clearly KD wants Kyrie to know he is the cause of this mess.

[MrDollarBills]

How is it whenever to don't have a real argument you just jump to calling racism? Get over yourself

I wish we listened to Boston fans back in 2019 about this drama queen; the likelihood he opts in is high and will most like find more excuses to not play.

Honestly if someone still wants to like kyrie that's fine. He's a polarizing player but adds relevance to a team well beyond his production. I just get sick of prok calling me and all Boston fans racist whenever he doesn't have an argument. You can dislike kyrie without being a racist. Case in point a lot of people in this thread I imagine. The dude absolutely has screwed you guys since arriving in Brooklyn.

Kyrie is a selfish teammate who has sabotaged our season and is the #1 reason why James Harden bailed. There are fans here who want to act like Kyrie refusing to get vaccinated isn't the root cause of all of this team's dysfunction.

Boston fans were 100% right about Kyrie. Cleveland fans were 100% right about Kyrie.

This isn't a racial issue. Kyrie lied to Sean Marks and refused to do the bare minimum to make himself available while his teammates all complied with the public health and safety mandate of NYC because they WANTED TO BE ON THE COURT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. KYRIE DID NOT.

The idea that Kyrie is a great teammate is a joke and is 100% gas lighting. He's done more to sabotage this team than Harden ever did. Harden saw that Kyrie was being an ass hole and wanted out. Period.

[MrDollarBills]

I wish we listened to Boston fans back in 2019 about this drama queen; the likelihood he opts in is high and will most like find more excuses to not play.

Honestly if someone still wants to like kyrie that's fine. He's a polarizing player but adds relevance to a team well beyond his production. I just get sick of prok calling me and all Boston fans racist whenever he doesn't have an argument. You can dislike kyrie without being a racist. Case in point a lot of people in this thread I imagine. The dude absolutely has screwed you guys since arriving in Brooklyn.

I agree, you don't have to be racist to dislike someone. Kyrie's choices that have impacted our team and hurt our fans, which pay money to see these guys perform, is a solid reason not to like this guy. Both the Nets and fans of the Nets are sick of him; after the Boston game, KD indirectly called out Kyrie by nearly blaming him for what has happened this season. KD said, "You can point the fingers on other things this season, but that's not gonna do anything". Clearly KD wants Kyrie to know he is the cause of this mess.

KD should have NEVER chose to side with Kyrie over Harden. That and protecting him from the Nets front office were critical errors and HORRIBLE leadership. You think any other player on the roster could have gotten away with this antivax, part time crap BUT Kyrie? Bruce Brown was among the first Nets to get vaccinated and was outspoken about it because his career depended on it. And yet, here you have one of the team's alleged leaders refusing to do it. That should have been the end of it for him here.

It should have been simple: Comply like everyone else has, or find a new team to play for. PERIOD.

THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN NO EXCEPTIONS. NONE. Either be a decent human being and get vaccinated or be gone. Instead, KD coddled Kyrie's bitch ass and now look at us. WE'RE F*CKED!!!!!!!!!

Kyrie stabbed KD in the back and set fire to this season. Not HARDEN. KYRIE.

Durant looks weak. Marks looks like a FOOL. JOE TSAI MIGHT AS WELL TOSS HIS MONEY OUT THE WINDOW.


F*CK Kyrie.

[NetsWorld]

Honestly if someone still wants to like kyrie that's fine. He's a polarizing player but adds relevance to a team well beyond his production. I just get sick of prok calling me and all Boston fans racist whenever he doesn't have an argument. You can dislike kyrie without being a racist. Case in point a lot of people in this thread I imagine. The dude absolutely has screwed you guys since arriving in Brooklyn.

I agree, you don't have to be racist to dislike someone. Kyrie's choices that have impacted our team and hurt our fans, which pay money to see these guys perform, is a solid reason not to like this guy. Both the Nets and fans of the Nets are sick of him; after the Boston game, KD indirectly called out Kyrie by nearly blaming him for what has happened this season. KD said, "You can point the fingers on other things this season, but that's not gonna do anything". Clearly KD wants Kyrie to know he is the cause of this mess.

KD should have NEVER chose to side with Kyrie over Harden. That and protecting him from the Nets front office were critical errors and HORRIBLE leadership. You think any other player on the roster could have gotten away with this antivax, part time crap BUT Kyrie? Bruce Brown was among the first Nets to get vaccinated and was outspoken about it because his career depended on it. And yet, here you have one of the team's alleged leaders refusing to do it. That should have been the end of it for him here.

It should have been simple: Comply like everyone else has, or find a new team to play for. PERIOD.

THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN NO EXCEPTIONS. NONE. Either be a decent human being and get vaccinated or be gone. Instead, KD coddled Kyrie's bitch ass and now look at us. WE'RE F*CKED!!!!!!!!!

Kyrie stabbed KD in the back and set fire to this season. Not HARDEN. KYRIE.

Durant looks weak. Marks looks like a FOOL. JOE TSAI MIGHT AS WELL TOSS HIS MONEY OUT THE WINDOW.


F*CK Kyrie.

All I ask is Kyrie is off this team after this season; I sincerely hope Marks trades him. I can also get a sense that KD wants him gone too and is fed up with his crap.

[Prokorov]

Honestly if someone still wants to like kyrie that's fine. He's a polarizing player but adds relevance to a team well beyond his production. I just get sick of prok calling me and all Boston fans racist whenever he doesn't have an argument. You can dislike kyrie without being a racist. Case in point a lot of people in this thread I imagine. The dude absolutely has screwed you guys since arriving in Brooklyn.

I agree, you don't have to be racist to dislike someone. Kyrie's choices that have impacted our team and hurt our fans, which pay money to see these guys perform, is a solid reason not to like this guy. Both the Nets and fans of the Nets are sick of him; after the Boston game, KD indirectly called out Kyrie by nearly blaming him for what has happened this season. KD said, "You can point the fingers on other things this season, but that's not gonna do anything". Clearly KD wants Kyrie to know he is the cause of this mess.

KD should have NEVER chose to side with Kyrie over Harden. That and protecting him from the Nets front office were critical errors and HORRIBLE leadership. You think any other player on the roster could have gotten away with this antivax, part time crap BUT Kyrie? Bruce Brown was among the first Nets to get vaccinated and was outspoken about it because his career depended on it. And yet, here you have one of the team's alleged leaders refusing to do it. That should have been the end of it for him here.

It should have been simple: Comply like everyone else has, or find a new team to play for. PERIOD.

THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN NO EXCEPTIONS. NONE. Either be a decent human being and get vaccinated or be gone. Instead, KD coddled Kyrie's bitch ass and now look at us. WE'RE F*CKED!!!!!!!!!

Kyrie stabbed KD in the back and set fire to this season. Not HARDEN. KYRIE.

Durant looks weak. Marks looks like a FOOL. JOE TSAI MIGHT AS WELL TOSS HIS MONEY OUT THE WINDOW.


F*CK Kyrie.

There was no "siding" with one or the other. one guy wantes to be here, one didnt. KD tried to convice the one who wanted to be here to stay, he didnt want to stay.

No one coddled KD. It is not KD'sbusiness (HIS WORDS, not mine) to get into peoples personal decisions. KD has plenty of his own **** he doesnt want people to tell him what to do on (HIS WORDS, not mine) so why would he try and be king over someone elses health or famil (HIS WORDS, not mine).

Kyrie didnt stab KD in the back. Kyrie was ready to play and play hard and be in shape, the mandate forced him to make a tough decisions.

Harden decided he wanted to quit on this team. there was no conflict. it got hard and he would rather be fat and go to vegas then work hard until KD returened

[Prokorov]

How is it whenever to don't have a real argument you just jump to calling racism? Get over yourself

I wish we listened to Boston fans back in 2019 about this drama queen; the likelihood he opts in is high and will most like find more excuses to not play.

Honestly if someone still wants to like kyrie that's fine. He's a polarizing player but adds relevance to a team well beyond his production. I just get sick of prok calling me and all Boston fans racist whenever he doesn't have an argument. You can dislike kyrie without being a racist. Case in point a lot of people in this thread I imagine. The dude absolutely has screwed you guys since arriving in Brooklyn.

im not calling you a racist.

Kyrie irving, marcus smart, tristan thompason, jaylen brown, the boston globe and countless others are... and then you guys went and proved it.

Kyrie irving is the best thing to ever happen to this franchise and we are the most relevant the franchise has ever been because of him.

[Eatgreenz]

I agree, you don't have to be racist to dislike someone. Kyrie's choices that have impacted our team and hurt our fans, which pay money to see these guys perform, is a solid reason not to like this guy. Both the Nets and fans of the Nets are sick of him; after the Boston game, KD indirectly called out Kyrie by nearly blaming him for what has happened this season. KD said, "You can point the fingers on other things this season, but that's not gonna do anything". Clearly KD wants Kyrie to know he is the cause of this mess.

KD should have NEVER chose to side with Kyrie over Harden. That and protecting him from the Nets front office were critical errors and HORRIBLE leadership. You think any other player on the roster could have gotten away with this antivax, part time crap BUT Kyrie? Bruce Brown was among the first Nets to get vaccinated and was outspoken about it because his career depended on it. And yet, here you have one of the team's alleged leaders refusing to do it. That should have been the end of it for him here.

It should have been simple: Comply like everyone else has, or find a new team to play for. PERIOD.

THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN NO EXCEPTIONS. NONE. Either be a decent human being and get vaccinated or be gone. Instead, KD coddled Kyrie's bitch ass and now look at us. WE'RE F*CKED!!!!!!!!!

Kyrie stabbed KD in the back and set fire to this season. Not HARDEN. KYRIE.

Durant looks weak. Marks looks like a FOOL. JOE TSAI MIGHT AS WELL TOSS HIS MONEY OUT THE WINDOW.


F*CK Kyrie.

There was no "siding" with one or the other. one guy wantes to be here, one didnt. KD tried to convice the one who wanted to be here to stay, he didnt want to stay.

No one coddled KD. It is not KD'sbusiness (HIS WORDS, not mine) to get into peoples personal decisions. KD has plenty of his own **** he doesnt want people to tell him what to do on (HIS WORDS, not mine) so why would he try and be king over someone elses health or famil (HIS WORDS, not mine).

Kyrie didnt stab KD in the back. Kyrie was ready to play and play hard and be in shape, the mandate forced him to make a tough decisions.

Harden decided he wanted to quit on this team. there was no conflict. it got hard and he would rather be fat and go to vegas then work hard until KD returened

Its crazy. Nobody can explain why harden came into the season fat if that's who KD should of choose. This thing ppl not understanding Kai n KD actually really close friends. He knows what he kyrie is

[ajones9219]

I wish we listened to Boston fans back in 2019 about this drama queen; the likelihood he opts in is high and will most like find more excuses to not play.

Honestly if someone still wants to like kyrie that's fine. He's a polarizing player but adds relevance to a team well beyond his production. I just get sick of prok calling me and all Boston fans racist whenever he doesn't have an argument. You can dislike kyrie without being a racist. Case in point a lot of people in this thread I imagine. The dude absolutely has screwed you guys since arriving in Brooklyn.

im not calling you a racist.

Kyrie irving, marcus smart, tristan thompason, jaylen brown, the boston globe and countless others are... and then you guys went and proved it.

Kyrie irving is the best thing to ever happen to this franchise and we are the most relevant the franchise has ever been because of him.

1) Racism is horrible and should be called out in any instance. Everywhere in the US but especially at times Boston, has had it's issues with racism, but to just dismiss all Celtics fans as racist is prejudicial and reductionist on it's face. You're also using it as a crutch to dismiss any argument you disagree with. If you want to disagree with me about Kyrie that is fine but I don't appreciate accusations of racism when you don't even know me and I have never given you any indication that I am a racist. Hell, I don't even live in Boston.

[Prokorov]

Honestly if someone still wants to like kyrie that's fine. He's a polarizing player but adds relevance to a team well beyond his production. I just get sick of prok calling me and all Boston fans racist whenever he doesn't have an argument. You can dislike kyrie without being a racist. Case in point a lot of people in this thread I imagine. The dude absolutely has screwed you guys since arriving in Brooklyn.

im not calling you a racist.

Kyrie irving, marcus smart, tristan thompason, jaylen brown, the boston globe and countless others are... and then you guys went and proved it.

Kyrie irving is the best thing to ever happen to this franchise and we are the most relevant the franchise has ever been because of him.

1) Racism is horrible and should be called out in any instance. Everywhere in the US but especially at times Boston, has had it's issues with racism, but to just dismiss all Celtics fans as racist is prejudicial and reductionist on it's face. You're also using it as a crutch to dismiss any argument you disagree with. If you want to disagree with me about Kyrie that is fine but I don't appreciate accusations of racism when you don't even know me and I have never given you any indication that I am a racist. Hell, I don't even live in Boston.

take it up with marcus smart, tristan thompson, and the boston globe. they called you racist, i just agreed.

[Prokorov]

I agree, you don't have to be racist to dislike someone. Kyrie's choices that have impacted our team and hurt our fans, which pay money to see these guys perform, is a solid reason not to like this guy. Both the Nets and fans of the Nets are sick of him; after the Boston game, KD indirectly called out Kyrie by nearly blaming him for what has happened this season. KD said, "You can point the fingers on other things this season, but that's not gonna do anything". Clearly KD wants Kyrie to know he is the cause of this mess.

KD should have NEVER chose to side with Kyrie over Harden. That and protecting him from the Nets front office were critical errors and HORRIBLE leadership. You think any other player on the roster could have gotten away with this antivax, part time crap BUT Kyrie? Bruce Brown was among the first Nets to get vaccinated and was outspoken about it because his career depended on it. And yet, here you have one of the team's alleged leaders refusing to do it. That should have been the end of it for him here.

It should have been simple: Comply like everyone else has, or find a new team to play for. PERIOD.

THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN NO EXCEPTIONS. NONE. Either be a decent human being and get vaccinated or be gone. Instead, KD coddled Kyrie's bitch ass and now look at us. WE'RE F*CKED!!!!!!!!!

Kyrie stabbed KD in the back and set fire to this season. Not HARDEN. KYRIE.

Durant looks weak. Marks looks like a FOOL. JOE TSAI MIGHT AS WELL TOSS HIS MONEY OUT THE WINDOW.


F*CK Kyrie.

All I ask is Kyrie is off this team after this season; I sincerely hope Marks trades him. I can also get a sense that KD wants him gone too and is fed up with his crap.

KD doesnt only want him to stay, he would leave if Kyrie isnt back

[ajones9219]

im not calling you a racist.

Kyrie irving, marcus smart, tristan thompason, jaylen brown, the boston globe and countless others are... and then you guys went and proved it.

Kyrie irving is the best thing to ever happen to this franchise and we are the most relevant the franchise has ever been because of him.

1) Racism is horrible and should be called out in any instance. Everywhere in the US but especially at times Boston, has had it's issues with racism, but to just dismiss all Celtics fans as racist is prejudicial and reductionist on it's face. You're also using it as a crutch to dismiss any argument you disagree with. If you want to disagree with me about Kyrie that is fine but I don't appreciate accusations of racism when you don't even know me and I have never given you any indication that I am a racist. Hell, I don't even live in Boston.

take it up with marcus smart, tristan thompson, and the boston globe. they called you racist, i just agreed.

lol none of the three said every Celtics fan is a racist. I'd love to see a source proving that. Nobody argues that there are some racist people who also root for the Celtics. There are probably racists that root for every team in the league

[Prokorov]

1) Racism is horrible and should be called out in any instance. Everywhere in the US but especially at times Boston, has had it's issues with racism, but to just dismiss all Celtics fans as racist is prejudicial and reductionist on it's face. You're also using it as a crutch to dismiss any argument you disagree with. If you want to disagree with me about Kyrie that is fine but I don't appreciate accusations of racism when you don't even know me and I have never given you any indication that I am a racist. Hell, I don't even live in Boston.

take it up with marcus smart, tristan thompson, and the boston globe. they called you racist, i just agreed.

lol none of the three said every Celtics fan is a racist. I'd love to see a source proving that. Nobody argues that there are some racist people who also root for the Celtics. There are probably racists that root for every team in the league

Smart and thompson confirmed what kyrie said and KD confirmed.

Smart said, according to Jay King of The Athletic. "It’s kind of sad and sickening because even though it’s an opposing team (Nets), we have fans on your home team that you’re saying these racial slurs and you’re expecting us to go out there and play for you.”

I lived in boston for 23 years. everywhere has a few bad apples and racists. boston is an entire orchard of bad apples. I've lived in NJ, NY, RI, NC and spend 8 summers in FL. nothing even close to the racism i experienced in boston. and again this isnt about me, celtics players past and present, the boston globe, opposing players in all 4 sports all say the same.

its a racist city with racist fans. your own mayor wu called the city out for racist marks around covid with her being asian.

The biggest problem is people who live in or associated with Boston who wont acknowledge the issue. its why i moved out.

[ajones9219]

take it up with marcus smart, tristan thompson, and the boston globe. they called you racist, i just agreed.

lol none of the three said every Celtics fan is a racist. I'd love to see a source proving that. Nobody argues that there are some racist people who also root for the Celtics. There are probably racists that root for every team in the league

Smart and thompson confirmed what kyrie said and KD confirmed.

Smart said, according to Jay King of The Athletic. "It’s kind of sad and sickening because even though it’s an opposing team (Nets), we have fans on your home team that you’re saying these racial slurs and you’re expecting us to go out there and play for you.”

I lived in boston for 23 years. everywhere has a few bad apples and racists. boston is an entire orchard of bad apples. I've lived in NJ, NY, RI, NC and spend 8 summers in FL. nothing even close to the racism i experienced in boston. and again this isnt about me, celtics players past and present, the boston globe, opposing players in all 4 sports all say the same.

its a racist city with racist fans. your own mayor wu called the city out for racist marks around covid with her being asian.

The biggest problem is people who live in or associated with Boston who wont acknowledge the issue. its why i moved out.

Smart has also said he loves Boston and wants to retire there. Al Horford specifically requested to go back to Boston. Whatever you say dude but do not call me racist again. In fact do not call anyone racist unless they demonstrate that they are racist. It's toxic as hell

[Prokorov]

Smart has also said he loves Boston and wants to retire there.

He also said it was racist.

Whatever you say dude but do not call me racist again.

racist.