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Re: GT: Nets @ Memphis Grizzly's - 10/24 8:00PM EST 

Post#121 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Oct 25, 2022 9:02 am

mcscotty wrote:Lenny Wilkins himself couldn't help this team win. A couple of superstars surrounded by scrubs and G leauge players. What adjustments can you make? Can't get something from nothing. Just gotta roll with KD and KY till the wheels come off. It's not going to be pretty when the inevitable happens. One or both get injured. Same issues in LA.


Worry about your own garbage dude.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Memphis Grizzly's - 10/24 8:00PM EST 

Post#122 » by rocketsfan100 » Tue Oct 25, 2022 9:04 am

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Dynasty? lol...

Trade Simmons + Curry + Picks for Harden. Lol it be hilarious.

Harden is washed up, he ain't that better than Ben.


Haha.

Yep harden is so washed that he is averaging 27 points 10 assists 9 boards on 49% from the field and 39 from the three point line this season
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Re: GT: Nets @ Memphis Grizzly's - 10/24 8:00PM EST 

Post#123 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Oct 25, 2022 9:05 am

mcscotty wrote:You can blame the refs and coaching all you want. This team was an interesting, but failed experiment. You got close, but ultimately came up short. Accept it and move on. The window has closed. Blow it up and salvage what you can. Otherwise, a long painful rebuild is in store. Learn from your own recent history.


You need to f*ck off. Your team is a laughing stock
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Re: GT: Nets @ Memphis Grizzly's - 10/24 8:00PM EST 

Post#124 » by Minnamaker » Tue Oct 25, 2022 9:14 am

Aweful game and a quick reminder, why I should not care as much about this team this season anymore. At least until Nash is fired or the team is blown up. I cannot remember a team sticking to an obviously bad coach for this long while having champtionship aspirations. I don't know how long this team wants to stay in a mediocre/borderline playoff spot while having the talent to be top 3 in the east.

- Adams manhandled us throughout the game. It's tough to watch Sharpe and Claxton going against a guy like him. Would be nice to have a Drummond/Dwight kind of center as a third backup. I don't know if it is a top priority, as there aren't many teams with players like Adams, but we have to expect similar results again, playing against Teams with bully-center like Memphis, New Orleans, sometimes Philly, etc.

- Simmons looks very bad. You can see, that he did not play basketball for a long time. He is a full liability on offense and often lost/late on defense. It will be tough to win games while getting Simmons back in shape, if he ever does. Right now, it's not even about improvements to his game, but a long way to get him back to being the player he was.

- I think there is more movement on offense though. I wouldn't be to concerned about the offense it there weren't moments in every game, where the team can't find buckets while the other team goes on a 15ish point run to set the score apart. I guess, this is the part, where having a coach would come in handy.

On defense I feel like we are in foul trouble all the time. We are a bigger team than we were last year, but our bigs are kinda weak, even though Claxton gained weight. They always have to fight hard against strong players like Adams, resulting in tons of fouls. Adding that we are often late in rotations, it's a bad look on defense.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Memphis Grizzly's - 10/24 8:00PM EST 

Post#125 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Oct 25, 2022 9:15 am

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GTR11 wrote:Harden is washed up, he ain't that better than Ben.


Haha.

Yep harden is so washed that he is averaging 27 points 10 assists 9 boards on 49% from the field and 39 from the three point line this season


James isn't going to sleep with you bro, fyi.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Memphis Grizzly's - 10/24 8:00PM EST 

Post#126 » by sashaturiaf » Tue Oct 25, 2022 9:21 am

Minnamaker wrote:Aweful game and a quick reminder, why I should not care as much about this team this season anymore. At least until Nash is fired or the team is blown up. I cannot remember a team sticking to an obviously bad coach for this long while having champtionship aspirations. I don't know how long this team wants to stay in a mediocre/borderline playoff spot while having the talent to be top 3 in the east.

- Adams manhandled us throughout the game. It's tough to watch Sharpe and Claxton going against a guy like him. Would be nice to have a Drummond/Dwight kind of center as a third backup. I don't know if it is a top priority, as there aren't many teams with players like Adams, but we have to expect similar results again, playing against Teams with bully-center like Memphis, New Orleans, sometimes Philly, etc.

- Simmons looks very bad. You can see, that he did not play basketball for a long time. He is a full liability on offense and often lost/late on defense. It will be tough to win games while getting Simmons back in shape, if he ever does. Right now, it's not even about improvements to his game, but a long way to get him back to being the player he was.

- I think there is more movement on offense though. I wouldn't be to concerned about the offense it there weren't moments in every game, where the team can't find buckets while the other team goes on a 15ish point run to set the score apart. I guess, this is the part, where having a coach would come in handy.

On defense I feel like we are in foul trouble all the time. We are a bigger team than we were last year, but our bigs are kinda weak, even though Claxton gained weight. They always have to fight hard against strong players like Adams, resulting in tons of fouls. Adding that we are often late in rotations, it's a bad look on defense.


Echo everything you say, what a ****.

- We need a true big period. Sharpe is a 3rd stringer at best, we will continue to get demolished on the inside until we get a real big. Dwight is out there, why is he not signed yet.

- Simmons is not a rotation player right now. He needs to find his fitness, feel for the game and confidence before he even approaches what our expectations for him were. He is a max player giving us 2 way contract scrub production right now.

- Offense does look more varied, but what's the point when we can't get a stop or a defensive rebound for our lives.

- Get a true big and stop the switch everything nonsense, it's not working out for us at all.

- KD, Kyrie, Royce, Clax and Patty are doing their job.

- Fire Nash now
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Re: GT: Nets @ Memphis Grizzly's - 10/24 8:00PM EST 

Post#127 » by rocketsfan100 » Tue Oct 25, 2022 9:25 am

MrDollarBills wrote:
rocketsfan100 wrote:
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Haha.

Yep harden is so washed that he is averaging 27 points 10 assists 9 boards on 49% from the field and 39 from the three point line this season


James isn't going to sleep with you bro, fyi.[the Simmons trade is looking like highway robbery for the 76ers. Harden on his worst day is 10 times the player Ben is
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Re: GT: Nets @ Memphis Grizzly's - 10/24 8:00PM EST 

Post#128 » by sashaturiaf » Tue Oct 25, 2022 9:27 am

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rocketsfan100 wrote:Yep harden is so washed that he is averaging 27 points 10 assists 9 boards on 49% from the field and 39 from the three point line this season


James isn't going to sleep with you bro, fyi.[the Simmons trade is looking like highway robbery for the 76ers. Harden on his worst day is 10 times the player Ben is


Go back to your tanking ass board and pray for more losses cuck bum.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Memphis Grizzly's - 10/24 8:00PM EST 

Post#129 » by Gooner » Tue Oct 25, 2022 9:40 am

mcscotty wrote:Bane and Morant went off for 76 tonight. Opposing backcourts are going to feast off the Nets all season.


Backcourts, bigs, anybody. Zion and Siakam had a big night too. It's a reflection of their weak coach and spineless front office that keeps him in place. This team deserves a better coach than Nash.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Memphis Grizzly's - 10/24 8:00PM EST 

Post#130 » by Gooner » Tue Oct 25, 2022 9:42 am

GTR11 wrote:Can easily be 1-4 before we see Indy head to head.

Nash should be fired. This is dynasty team that has best player disengaged. KD was clearly frustrated.

At some point this sh** show has to be blown out, or you get a real coach. However no real coach come around KD and Kyrie right now here in BK.

I know it's only 3 games in, but I'm ready to get rid of Ben. I thought he can be lesser J.Kidd type player, he can't even hold J.Kidd's towel. Trading his ass right now is best option for both parties. He ain't build for NYC.


What did you even expect from Ben? He is who he is. Good passer, good defender, but he is never going to score double digit points on regular basis unless he has 4 shooters around him. That's just the reality.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Memphis Grizzly's - 10/24 8:00PM EST 

Post#131 » by NetsJets » Tue Oct 25, 2022 12:05 pm

We need a big body center if Boogie Cousins is available we need to go get him.

Ben Simmons is a bum plain and simple

KD and Kyrie balled out no complaints there.

Joe and Royce gave us solid minutes.

Clax and Sharpe are solid but are too small to bang with the Steven Adams of the world.

I’m not surprised we lost the Grizzlies have our number.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Memphis Grizzly's - 10/24 8:00PM EST 

Post#132 » by NetsWorld » Tue Oct 25, 2022 12:36 pm

Sadly, Simmons feels like a glorified role player who is supposed to play good D. But my bigger issue is Steve Nash. This guy can’t coach well at all; they need a better coach, plain and simple. I would still call up Udoka.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Memphis Grizzly's - 10/24 8:00PM EST 

Post#133 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Oct 25, 2022 12:39 pm

I just don't see it working with Ben as a starter. He has more fouls than he does FGAs and the lanes are clogged. We need to play him towards his strengths.

I think we need to play small in our second unit with Ben being point center. I'd start:

Kyrie/Royce/Harris/KD/Claxton

2nd unit: Simmons/Mills/Yuta/Morris with one of KD or Kyrie

Surround Ben with four guys that can shoot and let him operate as the primary ball handler. Simmons and Claxton together is not working.
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Post#134 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Oct 25, 2022 12:41 pm

Also, I don't care how much Ben is being paid and neither should the Nets. Use him to his strengths, and that means coming off the bench with shooters around him.
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Post#135 » by NetsJets » Tue Oct 25, 2022 12:55 pm

My issue is that Ben seems content with this. He has regressed since his rookie year. I’m so annoyed every time Ben strolls over to the dunkers spot, he and Claxton are a spacing nightmare.
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Post#136 » by Shark » Tue Oct 25, 2022 1:21 pm

NetsJets wrote:My issue is that Ben seems content with this. He has regressed since his rookie year. I’m so annoyed every time Ben strolls over to the dunkers spot, he and Claxton are a spacing nightmare.

Honestly it just feels like Nash and crew haven't really decided what they want from Ben. The fact that he doesn't have the ball in his hands much and then also plays closer to the interior makes it feel like they kinda want to play him a center, but not really. This leads to his looking lost on offense whenever he doesn't have the ball in his hands.
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Post#137 » by Educator » Tue Oct 25, 2022 2:06 pm

It's painfully obvious that Joe Harris should start over Ben Simmons right now but I doubt Nash will ever realize it.
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Post#138 » by NetsJets » Tue Oct 25, 2022 2:18 pm

Shark wrote:
NetsJets wrote:My issue is that Ben seems content with this. He has regressed since his rookie year. I’m so annoyed every time Ben strolls over to the dunkers spot, he and Claxton are a spacing nightmare.

Honestly it just feels like Nash and crew haven't really decided what they want from Ben. The fact that he doesn't have the ball in his hands much and then also plays closer to the interior makes it feel like they kinda want to play him a center, but not really. This leads to his looking lost on offense whenever he doesn't have the ball in his hands.

That’s because he’s not a threat to shoot and he’s regressed as a playmaker he doesn’t even get to the basket like he used to. He’s now a rim rolling wing. Awful just awful.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Memphis Grizzly's - 10/24 8:00PM EST 

Post#139 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Oct 25, 2022 2:31 pm

Shark wrote:
NetsJets wrote:My issue is that Ben seems content with this. He has regressed since his rookie year. I’m so annoyed every time Ben strolls over to the dunkers spot, he and Claxton are a spacing nightmare.

Honestly it just feels like Nash and crew haven't really decided what they want from Ben. The fact that he doesn't have the ball in his hands much and then also plays closer to the interior makes it feel like they kinda want to play him a center, but not really. This leads to his looking lost on offense whenever he doesn't have the ball in his hands.



Not having an actual coach also compounds the issue. Is Ben our primary ball handler or not? Why is he looking lost? He should have a well defined role.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Memphis Grizzly's - 10/24 8:00PM EST 

Post#140 » by XtremeDunkz » Tue Oct 25, 2022 2:32 pm

NetsJets wrote:My issue is that Ben seems content with this. He has regressed since his rookie year. I’m so annoyed every time Ben strolls over to the dunkers spot, he and Claxton are a spacing nightmare.
This was our complaint every day as sixers fans. When Ben secured that extension it was over.

His first couple seasons he was way more dynamic. But after that, unless it's a fast break he will literally just slowly walk the ball up, dribble to the top of the key, hand the ball off and stand under the basket. Killing any room in the paint for anyone else.

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