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Post#1221 » by Shark » Mon Aug 8, 2022 9:53 pm

Stone wrote:Textbook sneaky passive aggressive behavior. When asked about Nash, KD never says a bad word. Now it's all Nash's fault.

There will probably be more interest from other franchises in Marks than KD.

Another thing, I could see getting upset with Ben ghosting the team. That ain't right. But after the guy got surgery, shows me his reasons were legit, water under the bridge.

It's just that same as when he left Golden State. As soon as someone puts their foot down (Draymond) he finds some other bs reason to leave. He's probably mad seeing Marks trying to take back control of the franchise after not capitulating to Kyrie on the extension and furthermore after Marks decided he was willing to wait for a better trade offer.
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Post#1222 » by ArksNetsSince99 » Mon Aug 8, 2022 10:02 pm

:lol:
vincecarter4pres wrote:
unicron5 wrote:Fire Marks, he's a dime a dozen nothing GM. Like I get it, rough situation for him, but this isn't about being nice.

If you have a marriage that has a lot riding on it and your wife goes from

"I'm 100% divorcing you"

to

"Well you need to choose, either divorce me or stop going to strip clubs"

Just say bye to the strip clubs and watch internet porn like every other guy does in the 21st century, lol.

Like I feel bad for Marks, but cya. If Durant said this then he's basically offering the Nets owner an olive branch to salvage this "marriage" if you want to put it that way.

Marks is not a dime a dozen GM, though he certainly is replaceable and has had a few real head scratchers in between brilliance and solid.

But this is more than that. This is simply a toxic dynamic. The organization has catered to KD on every level they could, as they mainly should have. This isn't even some cliche line in the sand. This is simply an irrevocable relationship.

This isn't your wife threatening divorce over strip clubs. This is the paranoid, insecure, venomous and untrusting for no good reason, pyscho wife. The one putting GPS trackers on your car, showing up at your job, burning your clothes, turning your young kids against you. And then hitting you with some ultimatum like, "Quit your job and work from home, you're only allowed in public with me, or with 20 minute check-ins via FaceTime, or I'll give our dog to a shelter and leave the country with our kids. Btw, I **** Tim."

:lol: :lol: :lol: wife part was amazing
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Post#1223 » by Riconet » Mon Aug 8, 2022 10:06 pm

Well, regardless of how low-character a move this is by KD, it’s hard to avoid the conclusion that it’s at least 80% likely that KD will be traded.

One question that I find interesting is how long the Nets are willing to wait for the right offer — and this is complicated by the Kyrie situation. I continue to believe that if KD is traded this summer, Kyrie will be gone by the start of the season. Will the Nets be willing to wait ti trade KD until after the season starts, like Philly did with Simmons, in order to get the right offer? But if they do that, are they going to keep Kyrie until the KD situation is resolved?

This is a very tricky situation for Marks and Tsai. They are likely looking at flushing the season if they don’t rip off the bandaid this summer, but doing so will probably mean taking an offer they don’t love.
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Post#1224 » by djsunyc » Mon Aug 8, 2022 10:09 pm

kyrie basically set the nets back about 4 years. nets have to get either one legit talent or a bunch of picks back for kd - that's their one and only trade chip to get some assets. they're getting nothing for kyrie.
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Post#1225 » by ArksNetsSince99 » Mon Aug 8, 2022 10:15 pm

djsunyc wrote:kyrie basically set the nets back about 4 years. nets have to get either one legit talent or a bunch of picks back for kd - that's their one and only trade chip to get some assets. they're getting nothing for kyrie.


Durant asks to be traded then demands Marks/ Nash fired , Kyrie is to blame , love your analogy and while Kyrie isn’t blameless, Durant it’s a grown man , he made this mess
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Post#1226 » by djsunyc » Mon Aug 8, 2022 10:16 pm

ArksNetsSince99 wrote:
djsunyc wrote:kyrie basically set the nets back about 4 years. nets have to get either one legit talent or a bunch of picks back for kd - that's their one and only trade chip to get some assets. they're getting nothing for kyrie.


Durant asks to be traded then demands Marks/ Nash fired , Kyrie is to blame , love your analogy and while Kyrie isn’t blameless, Durant it’s a grown man , he made this mess


it was really a statement of how all this deteriorated last season with kyrie at the center of it all. this is just a continuation of it.
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Post#1227 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Aug 8, 2022 10:17 pm

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Tsai needs to extend Marks asap. Marks out is the real doomsday. Hiring a new GM (probably influenced by KD) to either keep him or handle trading him as his first move, yikes.



If the Nets capitulate here, it won't be the end of it. It will be something else. Maybe a significant injury, maybe he just goes off the rails and demands out again publicly.

I would extend Marks today, and trade Durant to Boston immediately for Brown and whatever that isn't nailed down. We need to disinfect this house.


agreed. if im tsai, im calling marks in and extending him instantly 10% above whatever the expectation was. then im asking him who put in the 3 best KD offers and telling him to call all 3 with realistic counters we would accept right now and the first team that calls back gets him.

he wants out and even if he were to change his mind it's only a matter of time until the next thing. it's insane how he went from a low maintenance superstar who did nothing but dominate on the floor and extended without any drama 10 months ago to the guy he's being now. i really think he's freaking out just like harden did the second he wasn't able to do whatever he wanted on the court.


Yep. That Celtics series made him piss himself and instead of trying to make it work he wants to burn the house down and run away.

Boston can have him. The Boston media will flay him alive once the bullsh*t starts and he'll regret this.
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Post#1228 » by Eatgreenz » Mon Aug 8, 2022 10:20 pm

I like Marks but Nash got to go regardless what happens. Even if we trade KD, Nash still has to go if we are serious about competing.
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Post#1229 » by ArksNetsSince99 » Mon Aug 8, 2022 10:23 pm

What happened to Prok ? Did he become closet Knicks fan or moved to deserted island without internet ?

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Post#1230 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Aug 8, 2022 10:24 pm

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Stone wrote:Textbook sneaky passive aggressive behavior. When asked about Nash, KD never says a bad word. Now it's all Nash's fault.

There will probably be more interest from other franchises in Marks than KD.

Another thing, I could see getting upset with Ben ghosting the team. That ain't right. But after the guy got surgery, shows me his reasons were legit, water under the bridge.

It's just that same as when he left Golden State. As soon as someone puts their foot down (Draymond) he finds some other bs reason to leave. He's probably mad seeing Marks trying to take back control of the franchise after not capitulating to Kyrie on the extension and furthermore after Marks decided he was willing to wait for a better trade offer.


Yep. This is what i said before, you never heard of any nonsense in Golden State prior to KD coming there and Draymond having to threaten him with an ass beating to put him in check. Dude tries to fly under the radar while letting Kyrie get crucified for everything, but he's not some locker room saint either.
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Post#1231 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Aug 8, 2022 10:26 pm

Eatgreenz wrote:I like Marks but Nash got to go regardless what happens. Even if we trade KD, Nash still has to go if we are serious about competing.


The deal should be this:

Nash can go, but Marks absolutely stays, no if ands or buts.

If KD doesn't want to meet Tsai in the middle, then it's time to go. I would gladly sacrifice Nash.
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Post#1232 » by TheNetsFan » Mon Aug 8, 2022 10:28 pm

ArksNetsSince99 wrote:What happened to Prok ? Did he become closet Knicks fan or moved to deserted island without internet ?

Would love to hear his insights about nets off-season :D

He popped up on ND for a bit spewing the same old Kyrie lovefest stuff. I don't know why he disappeared from here.
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Post#1233 » by ArksNetsSince99 » Mon Aug 8, 2022 10:31 pm

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ArksNetsSince99 wrote:What happened to Prok ? Did he become closet Knicks fan or moved to deserted island without internet ?

Would love to hear his insights about nets off-season :D

He popped up on ND for a bit spewing the same old Kyrie lovefest stuff. I don't know why he disappeared from here.

What’s his nickname on ND ?
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Post#1234 » by ArksNetsSince99 » Mon Aug 8, 2022 10:32 pm

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Eatgreenz wrote:I like Marks but Nash got to go regardless what happens. Even if we trade KD, Nash still has to go if we are serious about competing.


The deal should be this:

Nash can go, but Marks absolutely stays, no if ands or buts.

If KD doesn't want to meet Tsai in the middle, then it's time to go. I would gladly sacrifice Nash.

Agreed 100% I think it’s the best ultimatum
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Post#1235 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Aug 8, 2022 10:33 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:
unicron5 wrote:Fire Marks, he's a dime a dozen nothing GM. Like I get it, rough situation for him, but this isn't about being nice.

If you have a marriage that has a lot riding on it and your wife goes from

"I'm 100% divorcing you"

to

"Well you need to choose, either divorce me or stop going to strip clubs"

Just say bye to the strip clubs and watch internet porn like every other guy does in the 21st century, lol.

Like I feel bad for Marks, but cya. If Durant said this then he's basically offering the Nets owner an olive branch to salvage this "marriage" if you want to put it that way.

Marks is not a dime a dozen GM, though he certainly is replaceable and has had a few real head scratchers in between brilliance and solid.

But this is more than that. This is simply a toxic dynamic. The organization has catered to KD on every level they could, as they mainly should have. This isn't even some cliche line in the sand. This is simply an irrevocable relationship.

This isn't your wife threatening divorce over strip clubs. This is the paranoid, insecure, venomous and untrusting for no good reason, pyscho wife. The one putting GPS trackers on your car, showing up at your job, burning your clothes, turning your young kids against you. And then hitting you with some ultimatum like, "Quit your job and work from home, you're only allowed in public with me, or with 20 minute check-ins via FaceTime, or I'll give our dog to a shelter and leave the country with our kids. Btw, I **** Tim."


Exactly.

KD isn't operating in good faith. You don't capitulate to someone like that.

He's done here.
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Post#1236 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Aug 8, 2022 10:34 pm

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ArksNetsSince99 wrote:What happened to Prok ? Did he become closet Knicks fan or moved to deserted island without internet ?

Would love to hear his insights about nets off-season :D

He popped up on ND for a bit spewing the same old Kyrie lovefest stuff. I don't know why he disappeared from here.


I think Prok got banned. I have no clue what he did.
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Post#1237 » by ArksNetsSince99 » Mon Aug 8, 2022 10:40 pm

I just hope we not gonna deal with Miami , Riley is known to swindle other clubs in our situation, like Herro and Lowry trash for Durant

Nightmare scenario
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Post#1238 » by CalamityX12 » Mon Aug 8, 2022 10:54 pm

This is damaging and confusing for me...

Who da fuq is stopping Nash from being fired? KD or Marks?
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Post#1239 » by MGrand15 » Mon Aug 8, 2022 11:04 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:
unicron5 wrote:Fire Marks, he's a dime a dozen nothing GM. Like I get it, rough situation for him, but this isn't about being nice.

If you have a marriage that has a lot riding on it and your wife goes from

"I'm 100% divorcing you"

to

"Well you need to choose, either divorce me or stop going to strip clubs"

Just say bye to the strip clubs and watch internet porn like every other guy does in the 21st century, lol.

Like I feel bad for Marks, but cya. If Durant said this then he's basically offering the Nets owner an olive branch to salvage this "marriage" if you want to put it that way.

Marks is not a dime a dozen GM, though he certainly is replaceable and has had a few real head scratchers in between brilliance and solid.

But this is more than that. This is simply a toxic dynamic. The organization has catered to KD on every level they could, as they mainly should have. This isn't even some cliche line in the sand. This is simply an irrevocable relationship.

This isn't your wife threatening divorce over strip clubs. This is the paranoid, insecure, venomous and untrusting for no good reason, pyscho wife. The one putting GPS trackers on your car, showing up at your job, burning your clothes, turning your young kids against you. And then hitting you with some ultimatum like, "Quit your job and work from home, you're only allowed in public with me, or with 20 minute check-ins via FaceTime, or I'll give our dog to a shelter and leave the country with our kids. Btw, I **** Tim."


This is 1000% accurate.

KD already had a ton of input on roster moves and coaching moves. What comes next if we follow through on this?

What exactly are his roster demands that Marks is refusing to comply with? Signing his buddy Melo? Hiring Mark Jackson? Starting LMA? All evidence points to KD wanting to play with his buddies with zero accountability over actually trying to be a part of a winning culture.

We're in this mess specifically because we gave Kyrie and KD too much power and leeway.
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Post#1240 » by MGrand15 » Mon Aug 8, 2022 11:11 pm

I find the Ben Simmons story hard to believe. It's possible, sure, but his actions tell the complete opposite story.

When it was official he wasn't playing in Game 4, Ben had a meeting with Marks and the Nets staff and they essentially asked him wtf was going on. He said he wasn't ready to play but he was fully committed to the team.

Since then he had surgery ASAP when the season ended. He's been working with the Nets all summer. Has gone to a ton of team and Brooklyn related events with teammates and officials. Been repping the Nets hard.

The source on the story is shaky at best too.

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