Official Caris LeVert Thread

[vincecarter4pres]

I'll fight anyone who wants to trade Caris.

I have no desire to see him traded, I'm just curious to hear dialogue on the topic of his perceived value and ceiling in his prime as a player.

[TheBrooklynKidd]

I'll fight anyone who wants to trade Caris.

I have no desire to see him traded, I'm just curious to here dialogue on the topic of his perceived value and ceiling in his prime as a player.

20/10/6 as the primary ball handler/distributor while also guarding the opposing teams best perimeter player regardless of position. He’s the only truly untouchable player on our roster IMO. Kids that special.

Number 22 will be in the rafters in 15 years.

[Netaman]

I'll fight anyone who wants to trade Caris.

I have no desire to see him traded, I'm just curious to hear dialogue on the topic of his perceived value and ceiling in his prime as a player.

He's really unique. Jalen Rose with more hustle? I kind of think Jalen was smoother, Levert has a little bit more of a herky/jerky style. Visually he moves similarly to Kittles, but I think he has a higher upside because of his ability to create off the dribble.

[TheNetsFan]

The only reason to consider trading LeVert is if the medical staff doesn't trust his foot long term. Regardless, you'd seek an established high end player from a team shifting to rebuild mode.

[LKIRNets]

I'll fight anyone who wants to trade Caris.

young Scottie if he ever does a hop step left handed dunk.

[Keith Van Horn]

honestly, if he makes a third year leap next year in the same way that Rondae has this year... god damn.

also... this is my dream scenario for LeVert

Watch on YouTube

Penny just seemed way more aggressive in getting the the rim than LeVert, but the skillset and mentality is there. Just watch some of the Penny highlights and get excited with me.

[vincecarter4pres]

He is not nearly as athletic as Pippen or Penny, either on level or stylistically.

[LKIRNets]

He is not nearly as athletic as Pippen or Penny, either on level or stylistically.

Statistically % wise, his game does have similarities to Pippen. He's just not as aggressive as a finisher.

[Netaman]

He is not nearly as athletic as Pippen or Penny, either on level or stylistically.

Agreed - Penny was an all-star basically the day they stepped on the court. I didn't see most of Pippen's early career, but having seen him at his peak I just don't think Levert has that kind of ceiling.

How about Eddie Jones?

[vincecarter4pres]

He is not nearly as athletic as Pippen or Penny, either on level or stylistically.

Statistically % wise, his game does have similarities to Pippen. He's just not as aggressive as a finisher.

He doesn't have the effortless explosive rise Pippen had, nor the end to end speed, nor change of direction, or even quickness off ball.

That isn't to say he couldn't become a player comparable Pippen's level, but he just doesn't have his athleticism.

There's definitely some stylistic similarities in overall play, but not stylistically athleticism-wise.

[vincecarter4pres]

He is not nearly as athletic as Pippen or Penny, either on level or stylistically.

Agreed - Penny was an all-star basically the day they stepped on the court. I didn't see most of Pippen's early career, but having seen him at his peak I just don't think Levert has that kind of ceiling.

How about Eddie Jones?

He definitely has shades of Jones, who was a very underrated player. Caris is very unique to me though, like he has elements of a lot of players to his game, but few are spot on comparisons.

Paul George, Manu Ginobili, Eddie Jones, Brandon Roy, Khris Middleton, Pippen, Paul Pierce and on a low end, but simply stylistically, even Derek Anderson. He has parts of all these guys to his game.

[LKIRNets]

He is not nearly as athletic as Pippen or Penny, either on level or stylistically.

Statistically % wise, his game does have similarities to Pippen. He's just not as aggressive as a finisher.

He doesn't have the effortless explosive rise Pippen had, nor the end to end speed, nor change of direction, or even quickness off ball.

That isn't to say he couldn't become a player comparable Pippen's level, but he just doesn't have his athleticism.

There's definitely some stylistic similarities in overall play, but not stylistically athleticism-wise.

he has the end to end speed just not the explosive rise.

Remember he's trained as a man in a man's league for 2 years. And his burst is improving. So the more conscious he is nutrition wise + our performance team, he's only going to get quicker.

I don't think he is but his traits, his habits reminds me a lot about him.

correct on that.

[kamaze]

Love his chemistry with Jarret Allen! He attacks the rim and either passes it off for a dunk or gets a layup

Watch on YouTube

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[MrDollarBills]

honestly, if he makes a third year leap next year in the same way that Rondae has this year... god damn.

also... this is my dream scenario for LeVert

Watch on YouTube

Penny just seemed way more aggressive in getting the the rim than LeVert, but the skillset and mentality is there. Just watch some of the Penny highlights and get excited with me.

This video doesn't really help the case of anyone comparing Caris to Penny. Penny's footwork and athleticism were elite. I don't think Caris is on that level.

He (LeVert) has his own style of play. When Caris starts dunking on people like Penny was off the dribble we can discuss this.

edit: Please rewatch this video and think about this clearly. The footage in that video is nothing remotely close to what we've seen Caris LeVert do on the court. the speed, footwork, and athleticism are hall of fame level. lets not heap these kinds of expectations onto this kid please

[MrDollarBills]

He is not nearly as athletic as Pippen or Penny, either on level or stylistically.

Agreed - Penny was an all-star basically the day they stepped on the court. I didn't see most of Pippen's early career, but having seen him at his peak I just don't think Levert has that kind of ceiling.

How about Eddie Jones?

Eddie Jones was on another tier athletically compared to Caris and a superior shooter from the perimeter (so far). Caris is definitely a better passer though and I think Caris is a better ball handler. Jones was a nasty player though.

I think these comparisons you guys are making are downright blasphemy and outrageous tbh, but I can't help but like them because guys like Pippen, Hardaway, and Jones were some of my favorite players to watch as a kid

[MrDollarBills]

He is not nearly as athletic as Pippen or Penny, either on level or stylistically.

Agreed - Penny was an all-star basically the day they stepped on the court. I didn't see most of Pippen's early career, but having seen him at his peak I just don't think Levert has that kind of ceiling.

How about Eddie Jones?

He definitely has shades of Jones, who was a very underrated player. Caris is very unique to me though, like he has elements of a lot of players to his game, but few are spot on comparisons.

Paul George, Manu Ginobili, Eddie Jones, Brandon Roy, Khris Middleton, Pippen, Paul Pierce and on a low end, but simply stylistically, even Derek Anderson. He has parts of all these guys to his game.

If I had to pick a name off of the list, Brandon Roy is a good one. He was one of the most craftiest scorers that I've ever seen play.

[TheBrooklynKidd]

honestly, if he makes a third year leap next year in the same way that Rondae has this year... god damn.

also... this is my dream scenario for LeVert

Watch on YouTube

Penny just seemed way more aggressive in getting the the rim than LeVert, but the skillset and mentality is there. Just watch some of the Penny highlights and get excited with me.

This video doesn't really help the case of anyone comparing Caris to Penny. Penny's footwork and athleticism were elite. I don't think Caris is on that level.

He (LeVert) has his own style of play. When Caris starts dunking on people like Penny was off the dribble we can discuss this.

edit: Please rewatch this video and think about this clearly. The footage in that video is nothing remotely close to what we've seen Caris LeVert do on the court. the speed, footwork, and athleticism are hall of fame level. lets not heap these kinds of expectations onto this kid please

Penny was a super human athlete. Caris doesn’t have his (le)vertical explosion but I think he definitely has the quick first step and footwork of Penny. He lacks the strength and the dunk on anyone mentality that Penny had however.

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with the expectations. LeVert is the best prospect we’ve had since... I mean maybe Richard Jefferson?!? He flashes that sort of all-nba potential.

He is super unique though and it’s really hard to find someone who plays like him but I think a cross between Manu/Penny is a good start.

[oldjim]

Levert is our most potential guy as i said last year, it's very stupid to trade Levert, two way player, athletic , young, play team ball, good character.

[MrDollarBills]

honestly, if he makes a third year leap next year in the same way that Rondae has this year... god damn.

also... this is my dream scenario for LeVert

Watch on YouTube

Penny just seemed way more aggressive in getting the the rim than LeVert, but the skillset and mentality is there. Just watch some of the Penny highlights and get excited with me.

This video doesn't really help the case of anyone comparing Caris to Penny. Penny's footwork and athleticism were elite. I don't think Caris is on that level.

He (LeVert) has his own style of play. When Caris starts dunking on people like Penny was off the dribble we can discuss this.

edit: Please rewatch this video and think about this clearly. The footage in that video is nothing remotely close to what we've seen Caris LeVert do on the court. the speed, footwork, and athleticism are hall of fame level. lets not heap these kinds of expectations onto this kid please

Penny was a super human athlete. Caris doesn’t have his (le)vertical explosion but I think he definitely has the quick first step and footwork of Penny. He lacks the strength and the dunk on anyone mentality that Penny had however.

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with the expectations. LeVert is the best prospect we’ve had since... I mean maybe Richard Jefferson?!? He flashes that sort of all-nba potential.

He is super unique though and it’s really hard to find someone who plays like him but I think a cross between Manu/Penny is a good start.

LeVert has solid footwork. Penny's footwork though? jesus. That dude would execute spin moves off of the dribble at full speed in traffic that I haven't seen someone to this day be able to do. We're talking what, 20 years since that time?

I think the expectations are kind of high based on these names mentioned. Manu, Scottie are hall of fame level players. Penny would have been in that category had he not been injured. I think LeVert is the most skilled prospect that we've drafted since Derrick Coleman. That in itself is where I'll leave it at.

[3pt_chucker]

After a slow start to the season, CLV shot 45% from 3 in December. If he can keep that % up near the 40 range for the rest of the season, that would be amazing.