The Official Lin Net Thread

[Lorenzomax7]

Lin had 7 ast last night actually, the box-score staff missed those two assisting RHJ and Scola in the 2nd half. They drove towards to the hoop right after they caught the ball off JLin's pass.

So Lin had 16/7 in just 24 mins of action. Lin also had 2 FTs ast and created 2 more chances for easy points.

[qiantom]

Lin had 7 ast last night actually, the box-score staff missed those two assisting RHJ and Scola in the 2nd half. They drove towards to the hoop right after they caught the ball off JLin's pass.

So Lin had 16/7 in just 24 mins of action. Lin also had 2 FTs ast and created 2 more chances for easy points.

They dribbled multiple times before making the layup. You don't get this kind of assists unless you are Rondo.

[bws94]

Lin had 7 ast last night actually, the box-score staff missed those two assisting RHJ and Scola in the 2nd half. They drove towards to the hoop right after they caught the ball off JLin's pass.

So Lin had 16/7 in just 24 mins of action. Lin also had 2 FTs ast and created 2 more chances for easy points.

They dribbled multiple times before making the layup. You don't get this kind of assists unless you are Rondo.

I agree. I would not call those assists either. Lin had blown assists, guys were in a great position to finish that didn't. But those happen. Lin played well, but Dragic played better in that he had a point or two more, and twice as many assists.

[Paradise]

Lin had 7 ast last night actually, the box-score staff missed those two assisting RHJ and Scola in the 2nd half. They drove towards to the hoop right after they caught the ball off JLin's pass.

So Lin had 16/7 in just 24 mins of action. Lin also had 2 FTs ast and created 2 more chances for easy points.

They dribbled multiple times before making the layup. You don't get this kind of assists unless you are Rondo.

I agree. I would not call those assists either. Lin had blown assists, guys were in a great position to finish that didn't. But those happen. Lin played well, but Dragic played better in that he had a point or two more, and twice as many assists.

Dragic logged 29 minutes to Jeremy's 24.


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[jbeachboy]

lin and harris are doing great so far .

[Prokorov]

They dribbled multiple times before making the layup. You don't get this kind of assists unless you are Rondo.

I agree. I would not call those assists either. Lin had blown assists, guys were in a great position to finish that didn't. But those happen. Lin played well, but Dragic played better in that he had a point or two more, and twice as many assists.

Dragic logged 29 minutes to Jeremy's 24.


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It's ok for Lin to not outplay the opposing PG every night. people dont need to get all insecure about that. Lin played well, Dragic was a bit better. no shame in admitting that. Dragic played 5 more minutes.... sure if Lin played another 5 minutes he may have scored 2 more points with 6 more assists without turning it over again. but are we really going to assume that?

also, its preseason. stats dont matter much in preseason anyhow.

i think everyone is really pleased with what weve seen from lin so far.

[jbeachboy]

lin is due for a big year if he stays healthy.

[MrDollarBills]

I agree. I would not call those assists either. Lin had blown assists, guys were in a great position to finish that didn't. But those happen. Lin played well, but Dragic played better in that he had a point or two more, and twice as many assists.

Dragic logged 29 minutes to Jeremy's 24.


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It's ok for Lin to not outplay the opposing PG every night. people dont need to get all insecure about that. Lin played well, Dragic was a bit better. no shame in admitting that. Dragic played 5 more minutes.... sure if Lin played another 5 minutes he may have scored 2 more points with 6 more assists without turning it over again. but are we really going to assume that?

also, its preseason. stats dont matter much in preseason anyhow.

i think everyone is really pleased with what weve seen from lin so far.

Lin is fine to me, he gets into the paint at will, having that is a huge step in the right direction compared to the last few years.

And it's preseason. I could care less if we lose exhibition games where the f tier players finish out the 3rd and 4th. I liked what I saw when the Kilpatrick + Foreigner squad went on like a 20-6 run vs Miami and then the starters came in and played well.

If we get blown off the floor in the first three qtrs of this next game where Lopez/Lin play, then i'll show some concern.

[lin is ok]

i had a mini heart attack when tyler clashed with lin .

[lin is ok]

i am praying that our current roleplayers can transform into 3D players

[bws94]

Dragic logged 29 minutes to Jeremy's 24.


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It's ok for Lin to not outplay the opposing PG every night. people dont need to get all insecure about that. Lin played well, Dragic was a bit better. no shame in admitting that. Dragic played 5 more minutes.... sure if Lin played another 5 minutes he may have scored 2 more points with 6 more assists without turning it over again. but are we really going to assume that?

also, its preseason. stats dont matter much in preseason anyhow.

i think everyone is really pleased with what weve seen from lin so far.

Lin is fine to me, he gets into the paint at will, having that is a huge step in the right direction compared to the last few years.

And it's preseason. I could care less if we lose exhibition games where the f tier players finish out the 3rd and 4th. I liked what I saw when the Kilpatrick + Foreigner squad went on like a 20-6 run vs Miami and then the starters came in and played well.

If we get blown off the floor in the first three qtrs of this next game where Lopez/Lin play, then i'll show some concern.

Right. As for Lin, getting into the paint is his strength. The major weakness with Lin, in my opinion, is he'll be ball pressured, especially if he is the only ball handler. Lin doesn't quite have the wizard ball handling to break traps and maneuver out of these situations that the better PGs have. His handle is still "looser" than upper-tier PGs. It looked that way to me some last night a little when he was pressured. He's much, much better than he used to be, but, there are times where Lin will need help to pass the ball off, then regain it in some space to be effective.

[GoodDayLa]

It's ok for Lin to not outplay the opposing PG every night. people dont need to get all insecure about that. Lin played well, Dragic was a bit better. no shame in admitting that. Dragic played 5 more minutes.... sure if Lin played another 5 minutes he may have scored 2 more points with 6 more assists without turning it over again. but are we really going to assume that?

also, its preseason. stats dont matter much in preseason anyhow.

i think everyone is really pleased with what weve seen from lin so far.

Lin is fine to me, he gets into the paint at will, having that is a huge step in the right direction compared to the last few years.

And it's preseason. I could care less if we lose exhibition games where the f tier players finish out the 3rd and 4th. I liked what I saw when the Kilpatrick + Foreigner squad went on like a 20-6 run vs Miami and then the starters came in and played well.

If we get blown off the floor in the first three qtrs of this next game where Lopez/Lin play, then i'll show some concern.

Right. As for Lin, getting into the paint is his strength. The major weakness with Lin, in my opinion, is he'll be ball pressured, especially if he is the only ball handler. Lin doesn't quite have the wizard ball handling to break traps and maneuver out of these situations that the better PGs have. His handle is still "looser" than upper-tier PGs. It looked that way to me some last night a little when he was pressured. He's much, much better than he used to be, but, there are times where Lin will need help to pass the ball off, then regain it in some space to be effective.

This won't be a long term issue in Brooklyn. Lin does have a form of this issue you properly noted. but it will be minimized and masked well in Brooklyn.

In Brooklyn, I believe the coaching staff will prepare for this and make sure they play 4 on 3 when this happens and that there is an understanding of how Lin will unload that pass.

Also the Heat did this to Lin in game 5 of the playoffs last year. Lin masterfully beat it to the point Isiah Thomas praised him on NBA TV if you were watching.

Lin baited the trap by backing up with his dribble, waited for Al Jefferson to get wide open cutting to the paint, and threw the passes on target and Big Al scored. Lin did learn this tactic by the time he was in LA already. He did the same thing with Ed Davis. He backs up with his dribble, appears to be pinned against the sideline, and throws the dart to the wide open big.

The other time in the Heat playoff game, Lin didn't use his dribble yet, and just held the ball looking as if he was trapped, and bounce passed to a wide open Al Jefferson who understood how to connect with Lin and kill the double attempt.

After that, the Heat completely backed off.

Before you say "well he had Kemba on the court with him to relieve pressure" that's not true. I believe Courtney Lee was the 2 guard playing with him when Lin beat the traps. Due to some sick and twisted politics in Charlotte, Lin was not allowed to spend time on the court without Kemba in game 6 and 7 probably due to Kemba's fear of being benched permanently and traded after Lin's dominance in games 2-5 as the de facto PG when Clifford got tired of Kemba's incompetence and benched the guy. Watch the game tape, it doesn't lie even if you think I do. Kemba got his PG role back in game 6 and 7. Kemba tried his best to prove he was the man by trying to score 50 in game 6 to seal the deal but he just isn't big enough being under six foot tall no matter how tall he's listed. I didn't even waste time watching game 7. I knew the Hornets would lose by at least 10 in game 7 due to politics and the non-use of Lin at PG starting in game 6.

(EDIT: The only guy on this team who can do that with Lin is named Trevor Booker; for whatever reason, and I hope I'm wrong, I feel Lin has absolutely no chemistry with Luis Scola but somehow I hope they end up building some trust and ESP. That pass Lin threw to Scola in the Heat pre season game sums up their chemistry right now. Lin thought he threw a good dime and Scola made a half a$$ attempt to bend over to get it probably thinking Lin threw him a garbage pass. But 100 of you guys will tell me that's what preseason is for and that Lin threw a TO to Hamilton as well on the break).

So that's 1 way to beat it. The other is if Lin gets stuck up top, to have a corner outlet where they can release and from there its 4 on 3 and there is almost a 100% chance they're will always be a corner 3 wide open as the worst case scenario.

What use to be an issue for Lin will be used to flip the script this season through Lin's own improvement and coaching that will cater to protect Lin and help the team win games.

If you have watched and paid attention closely enough, you'll see that there is little to worry about in terms of Lin being trapped. It will be Christmas time if teams try to trap Lin or the Nets.

[MrDollarBills]

It's ok for Lin to not outplay the opposing PG every night. people dont need to get all insecure about that. Lin played well, Dragic was a bit better. no shame in admitting that. Dragic played 5 more minutes.... sure if Lin played another 5 minutes he may have scored 2 more points with 6 more assists without turning it over again. but are we really going to assume that?

also, its preseason. stats dont matter much in preseason anyhow.

i think everyone is really pleased with what weve seen from lin so far.

Lin is fine to me, he gets into the paint at will, having that is a huge step in the right direction compared to the last few years.

And it's preseason. I could care less if we lose exhibition games where the f tier players finish out the 3rd and 4th. I liked what I saw when the Kilpatrick + Foreigner squad went on like a 20-6 run vs Miami and then the starters came in and played well.

If we get blown off the floor in the first three qtrs of this next game where Lopez/Lin play, then i'll show some concern.

Right. As for Lin, getting into the paint is his strength. The major weakness with Lin, in my opinion, is he'll be ball pressured, especially if he is the only ball handler. Lin doesn't quite have the wizard ball handling to break traps and maneuver out of these situations that the better PGs have. His handle is still "looser" than upper-tier PGs. It looked that way to me some last night a little when he was pressured. He's much, much better than he used to be, but, there are times where Lin will need help to pass the ball off, then regain it in some space to be effective.

That's why the coach wants a two ball handler backcourt.

There's nothing wrong with having weaknesses. All players have them even the top dogs. It's just how coaches account for those weaknesses while maximizing each player's strength that makes or breaks what teams do.

[Kswiss]

It's ok for Lin to not outplay the opposing PG every night. people dont need to get all insecure about that. Lin played well, Dragic was a bit better. no shame in admitting that. Dragic played 5 more minutes.... sure if Lin played another 5 minutes he may have scored 2 more points with 6 more assists without turning it over again. but are we really going to assume that?

also, its preseason. stats dont matter much in preseason anyhow.

i think everyone is really pleased with what weve seen from lin so far.

Lin is fine to me, he gets into the paint at will, having that is a huge step in the right direction compared to the last few years.

And it's preseason. I could care less if we lose exhibition games where the f tier players finish out the 3rd and 4th. I liked what I saw when the Kilpatrick + Foreigner squad went on like a 20-6 run vs Miami and then the starters came in and played well.

If we get blown off the floor in the first three qtrs of this next game where Lopez/Lin play, then i'll show some concern.

Right. As for Lin, getting into the paint is his strength. The major weakness with Lin, in my opinion, is he'll be ball pressured, especially if he is the only ball handler. Lin doesn't quite have the wizard ball handling to break traps and maneuver out of these situations that the better PGs have. His handle is still "looser" than upper-tier PGs. It looked that way to me some last night a little when he was pressured. He's much, much better than he used to be, but, there are times where Lin will need help to pass the ball off, then regain it in some space to be effective.

I don't necessarily agree that he doesn't do well with ball pressure. I mean he's been exceptional in the playoffs the past few years and that's as intense as ball pressure gets. They really step up the defensive intensity. He's definitely not the fanciest dribbler but he uses his strength to protect the ball. He just doesn't really do all the intricate "Uncle Drew" type moves but is much more to the point with his moves, which I actually think can be a good thing.

[GoodDayLa]

Lin is fine to me, he gets into the paint at will, having that is a huge step in the right direction compared to the last few years.

And it's preseason. I could care less if we lose exhibition games where the f tier players finish out the 3rd and 4th. I liked what I saw when the Kilpatrick + Foreigner squad went on like a 20-6 run vs Miami and then the starters came in and played well.

If we get blown off the floor in the first three qtrs of this next game where Lopez/Lin play, then i'll show some concern.

Right. As for Lin, getting into the paint is his strength. The major weakness with Lin, in my opinion, is he'll be ball pressured, especially if he is the only ball handler. Lin doesn't quite have the wizard ball handling to break traps and maneuver out of these situations that the better PGs have. His handle is still "looser" than upper-tier PGs. It looked that way to me some last night a little when he was pressured. He's much, much better than he used to be, but, there are times where Lin will need help to pass the ball off, then regain it in some space to be effective.

I don't necessarily agree that he doesn't do well with ball pressure. I mean he's been exceptional in the playoffs the past few years and that's as intense as ball pressure gets. They really step up the defensive intensity. He's definitely not the fanciest dribbler but he uses his strength to protect the ball. He just doesn't really do all the intricate "Uncle Drew" type moves but is much more to the point with his moves, which I actually think can be a good thing.

The only real way to stop Lin is to be extremely physical, cheap shot him, and hope the refs continue to swallow the whistle when Lin gets bodied or pushed around. Then on defense, abuse Lin through picks or just try to tire him out with whomever he's guarding. Lin should be extremely careful this season. People are going to try to injure him, intentionally or not particularly if his efficiency stays high on offense.

[bws94]

Lin is fine to me, he gets into the paint at will, having that is a huge step in the right direction compared to the last few years.

And it's preseason. I could care less if we lose exhibition games where the f tier players finish out the 3rd and 4th. I liked what I saw when the Kilpatrick + Foreigner squad went on like a 20-6 run vs Miami and then the starters came in and played well.

If we get blown off the floor in the first three qtrs of this next game where Lopez/Lin play, then i'll show some concern.

Right. As for Lin, getting into the paint is his strength. The major weakness with Lin, in my opinion, is he'll be ball pressured, especially if he is the only ball handler. Lin doesn't quite have the wizard ball handling to break traps and maneuver out of these situations that the better PGs have. His handle is still "looser" than upper-tier PGs. It looked that way to me some last night a little when he was pressured. He's much, much better than he used to be, but, there are times where Lin will need help to pass the ball off, then regain it in some space to be effective.

That's why the coach wants a two ball handler backcourt.

There's nothing wrong with having weaknesses. All players have them even the top dogs. It's just how coaches account for those weaknesses while maximizing each player's strength that makes or breaks what teams do.

But he never really got that player that's on the level of Tyler Johnson. I guess Vazquez can fill that role if he finds his old form.

[bws94]

Right. As for Lin, getting into the paint is his strength. The major weakness with Lin, in my opinion, is he'll be ball pressured, especially if he is the only ball handler. Lin doesn't quite have the wizard ball handling to break traps and maneuver out of these situations that the better PGs have. His handle is still "looser" than upper-tier PGs. It looked that way to me some last night a little when he was pressured. He's much, much better than he used to be, but, there are times where Lin will need help to pass the ball off, then regain it in some space to be effective.

I don't necessarily agree that he doesn't do well with ball pressure. I mean he's been exceptional in the playoffs the past few years and that's as intense as ball pressure gets. They really step up the defensive intensity. He's definitely not the fanciest dribbler but he uses his strength to protect the ball. He just doesn't really do all the intricate "Uncle Drew" type moves but is much more to the point with his moves, which I actually think can be a good thing.

The only real way to stop Lin is to be extremely physical, cheap shot him, and hope the refs continue to swallow the whistle when Lin gets bodied or pushed around. Then on defense, abuse Lin through picks or just try to tire him out with whomever he's guarding. Lin should be extremely careful this season. People are going to try to injure him, intentionally or not particularly if his efficiency stays high on offense.

I don't think there are too many cheap shot Metta-World Peace type of physical players around that would intentionally not care who they hurt. Muscle-ling Lin doesn't work. He can get knocked down, bloodied, and come back stronger in a game. Lin doesn't mind physicality at all, in fact he thrives off of it. I'm sure some players will try to send a message but early ball pressure of Lin in the back court or trapping him strategically is more effective than trying to knock him around. But, as you said. He's found ways to beat that. He's been watching the film and has come up with counters.

[Lorenzomax7]

Lin had 7 ast last night actually, the box-score staff missed those two assisting RHJ and Scola in the 2nd half. They drove towards to the hoop right after they caught the ball off JLin's pass.

So Lin had 16/7 in just 24 mins of action. Lin also had 2 FTs ast and created 2 more chances for easy points.

They dribbled multiple times before making the layup. You don't get this kind of assists unless you are Rondo.

I agree. I would not call those assists either. Lin had blown assists, guys were in a great position to finish that didn't. But those happen. Lin played well, but Dragic played better in that he had a point or two more, and twice as many assists.

Come on! Man... Dragic had a dominant center clearing the lane for him...

Talking about those sorta "catch-n-drive" assists. Harden was getting all those ast off Lin's catch-n-drives. The defenders were all off-balance and the lane was there, it should be credited to the passer for his quick decision and good vision.

[13th Man]

Man some of you guys need to relax on these over the top predictions. I'm optimistic that Atkinson's system will get the best out of his players and Lin will drop 20/7 on good efficiency and good D. Alot of players will have career years and even BroLo will see an uptick in growth of his game as he starts trying to shoot 3s. Everyone WILL play hard or get benched for the next eager soul ready to grow their roles in the league (Booker, RHJ, CMC, etc) or doing their best to stick around (Scola, Vazquez, Hamilton). Lin is gonna move that rock around and the offense will be interesting and at times exciting to watch. Especially when Lin will sprinkle in 15-20 games of magic reminiscent of Linsanity over the season.

However the defense is gonna be putrid. This team will have to run n gun their way to wins. Thus at absolute best i only see them at 35 wins but being optimistic i predicted 32 wins. This is assuming things go swimmingly well for Lin and Kenny gets everyone to buy in. If a coupla major variables dont fall into place then it'll likely be a 25 win season which oddly enough is still an improvemtn on their expected win total.

As such, i put 2k on Nets making the over (20.5), sure they wont be good, but i HIGHLY doubt they'll suck more than last year. Lin with some crazy games will steal at LEAST 10 games over the season, when Lin sucks he SUCKS but when he's on hooo boy its a dandy of a game to watch. Thus they just gotta win at least 11 more games with some hot shooting, yea i can totally see that happening.

Edit: God i wished Miami had no matched on Tyler... he'd be the perfect combo guard complement with Lin. Can play PG when Lin sits and they both can easily share the floor playing off of each other's penetration. As someone said, if TJ had been signed the ceiling on the team can even be as high as 40 wins, he's got some serious talent.

About your $2k bet..I think that's smart money and you will definitely cash in unless Lin and Lopez gets hurt.

Just wondering, where did you place your bet...I myself want to bet on the Nets to win over 20, but nowhere as much as you...did you have to go to vegas for this?

Private message me if it's possible since this is not really talking about the thread subject.


On the Nets, I do agree they will have to out-score their opoonent and maybe Kenny should mix in more of that D'Antoni's system....Houston Rockets will give up 100+ points, but they will probably average 110 points per game.

Not sure if we're allowed to discuss betting on here but what odds are you guys getting on the over? On my unnamed site from Canada they're only offering 1.66 for Over on 19.5 games. So placing 2K will only return 3.33K if the Nets win 20 games (net profit of $1,333), I'm still tempted to place that bet though.

[spaceballer]

i had a mini heart attack when tyler clashed with lin .

Yeah, me, too. This and the Trevor Booker crash in another game. Just gotta hope players get through preseason without injuries.