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Re: The Official D'Angelo Russell Thread II 

Post#1341 » by NetsJets » Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:45 pm

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MrDollarBills wrote:Russell shot 46%fg/43%3pt for 17pts versus Westbrook the last time we played OKC.

This constant criticism of this team's best player is really off the rails. The dude has had a spectacular year and is one of the main reasons why we are even a playoff team right now.


iceman is a fake russell fan/troll. its been obvious since day 1.

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No I don’t.
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Post#1342 » by NyCeEvO » Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:02 am

Can we stop with the “If someone doesn’t agree with my assessment, they’re an idiot” rhetoric? It’s annoying.
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Post#1343 » by IceManBK1 » Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:13 am

again bad shooting night from 3 for dlo...missed fts and missed wide open dunk too, those were 4 easy pts..i don't know why he came out in 2nd half trying to set up his teammates so hard. he could score and dish at the same time. when he's forcing passes like that he turns them over at a high rate. but he did played really good d tonight though. couple steals and a block. i kinda question why KA never lets Dlo finish quarters though. it's either levert or dinwiddie finishing 2nd Q and 4th Q, those are quarters when the star players get to play. is it part of the hard coaching that dlo asked for or a trust issue? i kinda expected low scoring game for dlo. detroit is too good of a defensive team to let him drop 20+, 30 pts. we'll have to grind it out as a team too in okc. i won't bank on dlo lighting up okc. westbrook/pg13 could take turns on him.
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Post#1344 » by Prokorov » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:09 am

i thought this was a great game for Russell.... shot wasnt falling so he did everything else... got a bunch of steals, maybe reggie jackson invisible, a ton of sick passes to get easy teammates looks... he also hit some shots to stop piston runs in the third.
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Re: The Official D'Angelo Russell Thread II 

Post#1345 » by NetsJets » Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:39 am

IceManBK1 wrote:again bad shooting night from 3 for dlo...missed fts and missed wide open dunk too, those were 4 easy pts..i don't know why he came out in 2nd half trying to set up his teammates so hard. he could score and dish at the same time. when he's forcing passes like that he turns them over at a high rate. but he did played really good d tonight though. couple steals and a block. i kinda question why KA never lets Dlo finish quarters though. it's either levert or dinwiddie finishing 2nd Q and 4th Q, those are quarters when the star players get to play. is it part of the hard coaching that dlo asked for or a trust issue? i kinda expected low scoring game for dlo. detroit is too good of a defensive team to let him drop 20+, 30 pts. we'll have to grind it out as a team too in okc. i won't bank on dlo lighting up okc. westbrook/pg13 could take turns on him.

His defense has improved tremendously yet on final possessions in close games Kenny takes him out. It’s trust issues imo.
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Post#1346 » by IceManBK1 » Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:40 am

https://youtu.be/Gu1AtGiyjZ4

Missed this version of dlo. A lot of offball movement. Not over dependent on pnr to attack the rim and put pressure on the defense. The Lakers space out the floor really well. Usually 3 on 1 side with dlo and big on the other. I feel like nets spacing is worst with more shooters. When he's playing with DW and Levert he is always struck in the corner spotting up. That's not his game. I suggest KA just play Dlo with other guys who won't take the ball away from his hands.
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Post#1347 » by MGrand15 » Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:54 am

Yeah Kenny needs to take notes from Byron Scott on how to run offense. It's not like this style turned him into an all star or anything.
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Post#1348 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:09 pm

IceManBK1 wrote:https://youtu.be/Gu1AtGiyjZ4

Missed this version of dlo. A lot of offball movement. Not over dependent on pnr to attack the rim and put pressure on the defense. The Lakers space out the floor really well. Usually 3 on 1 side with dlo and big on the other. I feel like nets spacing is worst with more shooters. When he's playing with DW and Levert he is always struck in the corner spotting up. That's not his game. I suggest KA just play Dlo with other guys who won't take the ball away from his hands.


That version of D'Lo is nowhere near as good to the current version of D'Lo under Kenny Atkinson who has pushed and coached him towards all star status.

You care more about Russell scoring big numbers, and that's cool, you're a fan. But Russell has brought in to the team concept of the Nets culture and he has become an all star for it.

Also, Russell plays in the starting 5 that features 3 shooters and a rim rolling big. No one is taking the ball out of his hands and nothing is wrong with Russell moving off ball when Dinwiddie and LeVert play next to him. It's a TEAM. Not a one man show for your personal appeasement. Russell is doing exactly what he needs to do.
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Re: The Official D'Angelo Russell Thread II 

Post#1349 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:12 pm

MGrand15 wrote:Yeah Kenny needs to take notes from Byron Scott on how to run offense. It's not like this style turned him into an all star or anything.


yeah the same Byron Scott that taught Russell absolutely nothing and didn't coach him. unbelievable.
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Re: The Official D'Angelo Russell Thread II 

Post#1350 » by IceManBK1 » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:53 pm

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MGrand15 wrote:Yeah Kenny needs to take notes from Byron Scott on how to run offense. It's not like this style turned him into an all star or anything.


yeah the same Byron Scott that taught Russell absolutely nothing and didn't coach him. unbelievable.


They ran motion offense/space and pace. He shown improvement 2nd yr under Luke Walton. Was hanging with the best of them. He shot with confidence against guys like Kemba Walker, even russell westbrook. Now he's timid and can't finish over them. KA more or less kill dlo confidence with all the benching early in the season whenever he struggle. Don't even let his supposedly allstar finish crucial quarters(2nd and 4th)I don't know if that's part of the hard coaching. KA just take the good with the bad. Let dlo play through his mistakes and learn from them.
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Post#1351 » by IceManBK1 » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:56 pm

I think KA gotta go with dlo/harris/carroll/kurucsAllen now that crabbe can't go. Need some vet leadership out there.
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Post#1352 » by IceManBK1 » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:59 pm

I think dlo will have another off night tomorrow. He barely shoots well vs jazz. Gobert would be swatting his shots if he tries the soft layups.
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Re: The Official D'Angelo Russell Thread II 

Post#1353 » by NyCeEvO » Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:13 pm

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MrDollarBills wrote:
MGrand15 wrote:Yeah Kenny needs to take notes from Byron Scott on how to run offense. It's not like this style turned him into an all star or anything.


yeah the same Byron Scott that taught Russell absolutely nothing and didn't coach him. unbelievable.


They ran motion offense/space and pace. He shown improvement 2nd yr under Luke Walton. Was hanging with the best of them. He shot with confidence against guys like Kemba Walker, even russell westbrook. Now he's timid and can't finish over them. KA more or less kill dlo confidence with all the benching early in the season whenever he struggle. Don't even let his supposedly allstar finish crucial quarters(2nd and 4th)I don't know if that's part of the hard coaching. KA just take the good with the bad. Let dlo play through his mistakes and learn from them.

I disagree. I don't think he's timid...I think he's more calculated and judicious with the way he sees the floor and processes what's the best play for the team.

I agree with MDB on this one. I don't think Kenny has done anything to hinder DLo's overall progression. Points aren't everything.
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Re: The Official D'Angelo Russell Thread II 

Post#1354 » by IceManBK1 » Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:36 am

Ultimately the shots are there for dlo..it's his job to shoot more efficiently. I think other teams are defending dlo harder now. They're doubling and blitzing the PnR hard. Putting their best perimeter defender on him. I think more offball screen and movement and having another good playmaker big who can drive and kick; pass out of the post to the shooters would benefit dlo. Also maybe KA should space the players better. Give dlo and the pick n roll big more space to operate. Some iso post up for dlo wouldn't hurt.
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Re: The Official D'Angelo Russell Thread II 

Post#1355 » by MrDollarBills » Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:54 am

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MrDollarBills wrote:
MGrand15 wrote:Yeah Kenny needs to take notes from Byron Scott on how to run offense. It's not like this style turned him into an all star or anything.


yeah the same Byron Scott that taught Russell absolutely nothing and didn't coach him. unbelievable.


They ran motion offense/space and pace. He shown improvement 2nd yr under Luke Walton. Was hanging with the best of them. He shot with confidence against guys like Kemba Walker, even russell westbrook. Now he's timid and can't finish over them. KA more or less kill dlo confidence with all the benching early in the season whenever he struggle. Don't even let his supposedly allstar finish crucial quarters(2nd and 4th)I don't know if that's part of the hard coaching. KA just take the good with the bad. Let dlo play through his mistakes and learn from them.


he is an all star this year and his stats are up across the board, turnovers are down, his defense is better. There is literally zero argument that you can present that paints Walton as being better for Russell's development over Atkinson.

Russell has finished plenty of 4th quarters this season and has carried the Nets on his back to multiple victories with huge scoring outbursts, this team is in the playoff hunt because of his ascendance this season. You weren't saying any of this during the games where he was dropping 30, 40 points, in fact you were oddly quiet, the only times you honestly post from what I've seen is to make complaints, you're silent when things go well. D'Angelo Russell isn't playing timid, he's playing like a mature basketball player looking to make his teammates better. the only one worried about him scoring 50 points is you.

Russell is in the best possible place he could be for his career. He'd probably laugh at your insinuation that Luke Walton and the Lakers, a team that treated him like garbage and badmouthed him on his way out the door, is better for him than Kenny and the Nets.
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Re: The Official D'Angelo Russell Thread II 

Post#1356 » by MrDollarBills » Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:58 am

IceManBK1 wrote:Ultimately the shots are there for dlo..it's his job to shoot more efficiently. I think other teams are defending dlo harder now. They're doubling and blitzing the PnR hard. Putting their best perimeter defender on him. I think more offball screen and movement and having another good playmaker big who can drive and kick; pass out of the post to the shooters would benefit dlo. Also maybe KA should space the players better. Give dlo and the pick n roll big more space to operate. Some iso post up for dlo wouldn't hurt.


Russell is literally out there with 3 shooters and a rim rolling big, how much more space do you want?

Come on bro, seriously. I don't think you're a troll but you've got to ease up. This is all a work in progress that is way ahead of schedule. Russell has been fantastic. The Nets have been fantastic. Atkinson should get some votes for COTY. Things are going great right now for this franchise and their core of young players.
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Post#1358 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Mar 19, 2019 5:11 pm

Lou Williams is a baller true and true. That's high praise for Russell.
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Re: The Official D'Angelo Russell Thread II 

Post#1359 » by Prokorov » Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:02 pm

Lou Williams game winner overshadows an insane clutch peformance late by Russell... maybe more impressive then any clutch shot/game winner he has hit. this sequence is insane:

down 8 with 44 seconds left:

Russell three
Russell steal, carrolle layup+ foul
Russell dime to allen for the dunk for the tie

and he was composed the whole time. not fouls, not hero ball at the end.

shame we didnt get OT
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