Carmelo Anthony Thread (Merging)

jeff1624 · Post #1361 » by **jeff1624** » Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:45 am

Man, I can't even imagine what a Cavs fan is going through right now.. from legit contender to worst team in the league getting blown out by 55 points in a span of 8 months.. wow.

blindchicken11 · Post #1362 » by **blindchicken11** » Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:51 am

http://twitter.com/KingJames/status/25061817583673344

lebron on the cavs' loss. what an ass hat

jeff1624 · Post #1363 » by **jeff1624** » Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:57 am

blindchicken11 wrote:http://twitter.com/KingJames/status/25061817583673344

lebron on the cavs' loss. what an ass hat

The guy is an a**hole.. nothing new

vincecarter4pres · Post #1364 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Wed Jan 12, 2011 6:23 am

JoseRizal wrote:Our record of futility last season is threatened...

Let us have one!

Knickplaya · Post #1365 » by **Knickplaya** » Wed Jan 12, 2011 7:37 am

In the end, the biggest holdup in a trade that would send Carmelo Anthony to the New Jersey Nets may be Anthony himself.

According to several league sources, Anthony has not told anyone, not even his representatives, that he will sign a contract extension with the Nets.

One source who has spoken with Anthony since trade talks between Denver, New Jersey and Detroit became public last weekend said the Nuggets forward has never even hinted at signing with New Jersey.

"He has not agreed to go to New Jersey," said the source, who speaks regularly with Anthony. "I have never heard him, in all the times we've talked, say he's willing to go to New Jersey. Not once. Personally, I would be stunned if he went there and signed an extension."

This, of course, does not mean there's no chance of Anthony signing with the Nets. But it does mean the three teams involved in the potential deal that could involve as many as 15 players are working on nothing more than a hunch. For even if they do reach an agreement, Anthony's refusal to sign a three-year, $65 million extension with the Nets would kill the deal completely. New Jersey has been steadfast in its commitment to trade for Anthony only if he agrees to stay with the franchise long term.

http://espn.go.com/nba/dailydime/_/page ... daily-dime

JoseRizal · Post #1366 » by **JoseRizal** » Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:38 am

vincecarter4pres wrote:
JoseRizal wrote:Our record of futility last season is threatened...

Let us have one!

Race to 11... :lol:

JoseRizal · Post #1367 » by **JoseRizal** » Wed Jan 12, 2011 12:04 pm

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=a ... mire011111

SpeedyG · Post #1368 » by **SpeedyG** » Wed Jan 12, 2011 1:21 pm

JoseRizal wrote:http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-anthonystoudemire011111

Tampering much?

Rockice_8 · Post #1369 » by **Rockice_8** » Wed Jan 12, 2011 1:48 pm

SpeedyG wrote:
JoseRizal wrote:http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-anthonystoudemire011111

Tampering much?

There has got be a rule about doing that right?

smw6230 · Post #1370 » by **smw6230** » Wed Jan 12, 2011 2:08 pm

Rockice_8 wrote:
SpeedyG wrote:
JoseRizal wrote:http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-anthonystoudemire011111

Tampering much?

There has got be a rule about doing that right?

Nope, in the aftermath of the Miami big 3 situation Stern has already ruled that players talking about going to the same team isn't enforceable collusion.

SpeedyG · Post #1371 » by **SpeedyG** » Wed Jan 12, 2011 2:25 pm

smw6230 wrote:
Nope, in the aftermath of the Miami big 3 situation Stern has already ruled that players talking about going to the same team isn't enforceable collusion.

There was no proof in the Miami Big 3 situation (just allegedly them going out). If there is in fact, a text message from Amare saying "come here to New York to play with us", that is still tampering.

smw6230 · Post #1372 » by **smw6230** » Wed Jan 12, 2011 2:41 pm

SpeedyG wrote:
smw6230 wrote:
Nope, in the aftermath of the Miami big 3 situation Stern has already ruled that players talking about going to the same team isn't enforceable collusion.

There was no proof in the Miami Big 3 situation (just allegedly them going out). If there is in fact, a text message from Amare saying "come here to New York to play with us", that is still tampering.

"Our players, having negotiated for the right to be free agents at some point in their career, are totally within their rights to seek employment with any other team," Stern said. "That's something we agreed to. That's something we embrace. That's our system."

Stern said he believes it is fair to punish owners for tampering but not players for colluding.

"They don't collude, they just sort of talk about how nice it is to be able to play together and they're allowed to do that," Stern said. "There's nothing wrong with it. That's just the way it is."

Preludepunk27 · Post #1373 » by **Preludepunk27** » Wed Jan 12, 2011 2:50 pm

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-anthonystoudemire011111

All this was also in that Amare article. This is getting hilarious. Chris Broussard is (Please Use More Appropriate Word) though. He wishes he could be Stephen A Smith. It's just a poor man's version that is slightly less annoying. Nonetheless, definitely conflicting reports are floating around:

Anthony has delivered mixed messages on his desire to sign a contract extension with the Nuggets. He’s told two teammates he would ultimately be fine joining the Nets, and pushed his agent, Leon Rose, to help construct a package of players to go to the Nets with him. Nevertheless, Anthony has been wildly back and forth on his willingness to compromise with the Nets over the Knicks.

What’s more, Ujiri has been making calls to Eastern and Western Conference teams trying to find a team to take New Jersey point guard Devin Harris(notes), league sources said. Harris is still a player the Nuggets don’t control, and yet he’s shopping him around the league.

Talentfull · Post #1374 » by **Talentfull** » Wed Jan 12, 2011 2:56 pm

Trade deadline can't come soon enough...

SpeedyG · Post #1375 » by **SpeedyG** » Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:04 pm

smw6230 wrote:
SpeedyG wrote:
smw6230 wrote:
Nope, in the aftermath of the Miami big 3 situation Stern has already ruled that players talking about going to the same team isn't enforceable collusion.

There was no proof in the Miami Big 3 situation (just allegedly them going out). If there is in fact, a text message from Amare saying "come here to New York to play with us", that is still tampering.

"Our players, having negotiated for the right to be free agents at some point in their career, are totally within their rights to seek employment with any other team," Stern said. "That's something we agreed to. That's something we embrace. That's our system."

Stern said he believes it is fair to punish owners for tampering but not players for colluding.

"They don't collude, they just sort of talk about how nice it is to be able to play together and they're allowed to do that," Stern said. "There's nothing wrong with it. That's just the way it is."

Big 3 were free-agents, Melo is not.

Post #1376 » by **NyCeEvO** » Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:13 pm

Preludepunk27 wrote:http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-anthonystoudemire011111

All this was also in that Amare article. This is getting hilarious. Chris Broussard is (Please Use More Appropriate Word) though. He wishes he could be Stephen A Smith. It's just a poor man's version that is slightly less annoying. Nonetheless, definitely conflicting reports are floating around:

Anthony has delivered mixed messages on his desire to sign a contract extension with the Nuggets. He’s told two teammates he would ultimately be fine joining the Nets, and pushed his agent, Leon Rose, to help construct a package of players to go to the Nets with him. Nevertheless, Anthony has been wildly back and forth on his willingness to compromise with the Nets over the Knicks.

What’s more, Ujiri has been making calls to Eastern and Western Conference teams trying to find a team to take New Jersey point guard Devin Harris(notes), league sources said. Harris is still a player the Nuggets don’t control, and yet he’s shopping him around the league.

After the summer of "sources" debacle, Broussard will never write another article making an irrefutable or definitive claim because he knows that he actually has no sources with true inside knowledge. They all just read each other's articles and make adaptations to them and make their own version.

smw6230 · Post #1377 » by **smw6230** » Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:17 pm

SpeedyG wrote:Big 3 were free-agents, Melo is not.

In the main I really don't know where you're going with this. The foundation of the Miami collusion allegation is that the players colluded together to end up in Miami. The alleged collusion first occurred in 2008 at the Olympics which was a full two years before any of them were free agents.

The point is simple Stern has ruled that players talking about playing together isn't something that constitutes "collusion".

Collusion would be if Amar'e texted something like 'Donnie (or Dolan) told me to tell you not to sign with NJ and we'll take care of you when you hit FA with a max contract and endorsement deals". That would be enforceable collusion as it would bring management into the picture. Amar'e texting Anthony and telling him that he'd LOVE to play with him isn't collusion as Amar'e doesn't have the power to compel Anthony to comply with his wishes.

Post #1378 » by **NyCeEvO** » Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:18 pm

SpeedyG wrote:
smw6230 wrote:"Our players, having negotiated for the right to be free agents at some point in their career, are totally within their rights to seek employment with any other team," Stern said. "That's something we agreed to. That's something we embrace. That's our system."

Stern said he believes it is fair to punish owners for tampering but not players for colluding.

"They don't collude, they just sort of talk about how nice it is to be able to play together and they're allowed to do that," Stern said. "There's nothing wrong with it. That's just the way it is."

Big 3 were free-agents, Melo is not.

Dude, do you think he only meant that they can talk when they're free agents? The quotes clearly shows that Stern makes no exceptions about whether they can talk during the season or offseason. Plus, you can't stop players from contacting other players. Logically, there's no way that can be tampering. They're a part of the same organization.

In fact, apply this logic to team front offices. Different team front offices always talk to other front offices about making deals during the season and offseason. They just can't talk to players. Players can say whatever to each other and team management can say anything to each other. There just can't be any player-another team's front office connections.

Post #1379 » by **NyCeEvO** » Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:22 pm

smw6230 wrote:
SpeedyG wrote:Big 3 were free-agents, Melo is not.

In the main I really don't know where you're going with this. The foundation of the Miami collusion allegation is that the players colluded together to end up in Miami. The alleged collusion first occurred in 2008 at the Olympics which was a full two years before any of them were free agents.

The point is simple Stern has ruled that players talking about playing together isn't something that constitutes "collusion".

Collusion would be if Amar'e texted something like 'Donnie (or Dolan) told me to tell you not to sign with NJ and we'll take care of you when you hit FA with a max contract and endorsement deals". That would be enforceable collusion as it would bring management into the picture. Amar'e texting Anthony and telling him that he'd LOVE to play with him isn't collusion as Amar'e doesn't have the power to compel Anthony to comply with his wishes.

Exactly.

jamrock1975 · Post #1380 » by **jamrock1975** » Wed Jan 12, 2011 4:07 pm

knicks fan here. I come in peace. Just think about the reporter thaat has reported Amare texting Carmelo. Adrian Wojnowarski the same reporter that claimed that Lebron was put off by Donnie in a wheel chair. The report stated he claimed sources at the meeting "not in the meeting" stated how Lebron was put off by Donnie being in a wheel chair. It has long been rumored that information came out of lebron's camp but the more I think about it, Wojnowarski has sputed only venom at Lebron and his camp before the decision and after decision. No fast forward to this whole Melopalooza fiasco. It seemed as if he was getting minute by minute uipdates about the ongoing negotiations of the trade, it's as if he was in the room and it started to become clear that he was getting that information from someone within the nets organization henceforth denver telling everyone they need to keep the deal more private. This thing about Amare texting Carmelo maybe true or it may not be. Amare and Carmelo are friends and I am sure they have talked about playing together in the past, over the summer and since the season has started.

Ask yourself why all of a sudden it's being leaked that Amare is texting Melo? Why because the Nets feel they fading on the trade whether that is actually true or not, they sure feel that way. The nuggest wanted to file tampering charges the last time they thought the Knicks were tampering and they fed that line to Adrian Wojnowarski and he ran with it. That information is not gonna come from Amare or Carmelo telling a league source that they received a text from each other. That's just propraganda being spread by the Nets. That's teh reason why they sent out the photo of the arena because it was probably stated that the arena won't be finished on time. Now if Carmelo goes to the Nets or the Knicks it would be good for either team and the city, but what I don't like seeing is these false reports coming out that are just put out to make another team look bad. Denver is doing the same thing that they told the Nets not to do. They told New Jersey stop talking about the trade or we will trade them to the Knicks and he told that to the same reporter Adrian Wojnowarski to leak that information out to the media.