***Official 2021-22 Offseason Thread***

[MrDollarBills]

So

Simmons/Mills/Sumner
Irving/Curry/Thomas
Harris/O'Neale
Durant/Warren/Edwards
Claxton/Sharpe

2 more slots. Is Mike Muscala still on the market?

[Netaman]

So

Simmons/Mills/Sumner
Irving/Curry/Thomas
Harris/O'Neale
Durant/Warren/Edwards
Claxton/Sharpe

2 more slots. Is Mike Muscala still on the market?

jmo but hard to see all 3 of mills/curry/harris on the roster together since they brought in o'neale.

also claxton/sharpe is unlikely to cut it at C. they could sign a vet, but i think marks coup de grace is nabbing Ayton with a filler piece from Phoenix with Kyrie (to LAL), Harris, Claxton out the door the other way.

Simmons / Mills / Sumner
Seth / Thomas
O'Neale / Warren
KD / Edwards
Ayton / Sharpe

add a cheap vet center to hedge sharpe and maybe a filler wing from Phoenix like Crowder? that's a much tougher defensive team with a ton of shooting around Simmons and a highly efficient inside scorer in Ayton.

by the way this also sets up an easy in-season deal if things with Simmons don't fit. basically just go all in with whatever remaining assets they have to swap Simmons for Mitchell.

[3pt_chucker]

I really like the last two moves MArks made because they are nice pick ups with or without KD/KAI on the roster.

With KD/KAI
Warren is the microwave scoring wing of the bench who can also play solid D. Can fill in as a starter if there are injury or rest days.

Sumner is a big PG, who we can slowly build up following an Achilles injury. Can be a solid backup to Ben and adds size at the guard position.

Without KD/KAI
Depending on the return for KD, the Nets will need wing scoring. Warren can step into a volume scoring role and rebuild his value that way. If he performs well, Nets will re-sign him to a 3-4yr deal. Would be nice trade piece, if Marks want to take a swing at another All-NBA type star player.

Sumner role basically stays the same. Back up PG to Ben and can even get tons of mins in a big G lineup: Ben-Sumner-Warren-Harris-Clax is kinda nice.


Obviously since both are coming off major injuries there is a chance these moves won't work but the upside is great.

As currently constructed, the only thing the roster is missing is a solid stretch 5. Too bad most of the targets(Hartenstein, Muscala, Smith) were signed pretty early in free agency.

[GTR11]

Great signing, we add a big PG to the line up. Sumner was also a 40% 3 pt shooter before injury.

KD is an idiot if he wants to leave. We are loaded with shooters

All the moves sugget we going to run it back. Kyrie camp leaked info to Scoop and he just confirms he being used by them.

That conversation he spoke about definitely suggesting Kyrie and KD coming back for another shot.

Wether we like it or not, need to buckle up for another run. As been mentioned, this is most talented team out there. Now we need to hire legit coaching and put this to work. You right, KD and Kyrie won't find better situation than BK.

I just can't stress this enough. Kyrie needs to buy in into coaching and stop with all the chaos. If he shows up and play like he's on the mission, narrative can and will change. This will open up easier contract negotiations. IT ALL STARTS AND END WITH KYRIE AND HIS MIND SET.

[3pt_chucker]

Current C available in FA:

Thomas Bryant
Ed Davis
D. Cousins
T. Thompson
Devontae Cacok

Out of these options, I'd take Bryant on a flyer but a rather try to swing a trade using the remaining TPE + a pick.

[GTR11]

Current C available in FA:

Thomas Bryant
Ed Davis
D. Cousins
T. Thompson
Devontae Cacok

Out of these options, I'd take Bryant on a flyer but a rather try to swing a trade using the remaining TPE + a pick.

He just not reliable at all. With Nic on board who ain't mr durable i don't think we can afford Bryant experiment.

Couple bigs that can be had in a trade scenario are Maxi Kleber and Myles Turner. Joe and Seth salaries match if we do deal straight up.

With Patty being resigned i think Seth is kind of expendable. Mavs been looking for legit shooting at guard position. They also lost Brunson and didn't fill the void yet.

[GTR11]

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[Netaman]

What does anyone think of something like this?
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2qu485ky

Simmons / McConnell / Sumner
Seth / Patty / Cam
O'Neale / Harris / THT
KD / Edwards
Turner / Claxton

that's a much deeper team with a lot of shooting and a lot more defense.

if anything maybe too deep since there wouldn't be minutes for everyone, but maybe swap THT for someone like Jae Crowder?

[MGrand15]

I kind of get the feeling these signings show that we're close to a deal. Or we've decided that we're not dealing them. The roster is filling up with these moves.

Guards:
Patty
Curry
Cam
Sumner

Forwards:
Simmons
Harris
TJ Warren
O'Neale
Edwards

Centers:
Claxton
Sharpe

2 Way Players:
Duke
Alondes Williams

11 roster spots (with Kessler) - not including KD or Kyrie. Obviously we still have flexibility but I don't think we make these moves if we thought there was a chance it could screw up a future trade. Almost any KD trade has to be 3 for 1 and we still need a center.

[Netaman]

I kind of get the feeling these signings show that we're close to a deal. Or we've decided that we're not dealing them. The roster is filling up with these moves.

Guards:
Patty
Curry
Cam
Sumner

Forwards:
Simmons
Harris
TJ Warren
O'Neale
Edwards

Centers:
Claxton
Sharpe

2 Way Players:
Duke
Alondes Williams

11 roster spots (with Kessler) - not including KD or Kyrie. Obviously we still have flexibility but I don't think we make these moves if we thought there was a chance it could screw up a future trade. Almost any KD trade has to be 3 for 1 and we still need a center.

agree - i have a feeling ayton or turner is on the way.

[Claud]

Thomas Bryant is clearly the profile we should be after since we lack bigs that can shoot/score.

Really liked the additions of TJ Warren and Sumner. Nice guard/wing depth additions alongside Royce ONeal.

We keep adding shooting which is EXACTLY what we need around Simmons.

I'm of the belief we simply can't win with Kyrie on the roster. Too much drama/distractions.

I'd trade Kyrie for more depth(Center, guard depth) and force KD to make a choice.

He has a 4 year contract, **** giving those 2 egomaniacs the power to **** our team.

[Netaman]

Thomas Bryant is clearly the profile we should be after since we lack bigs that can shoot/score.

Really liked the additions of TJ Warren and Sumner. Nice guard/wing depth additions alongside Royce ONeal.

We keep adding shooting which is EXACTLY what we need around Simmons.

I'm of the belief we simply can't win with Kyrie on the roster. Too much drama/distractions.

I'd trade Kyrie for more depth(Center, guard depth) and force KD to make a choice.

He has a 4 year contract, **** giving those 2 egomaniacs the power to **** our team.

same. I'd be working on trades with kyrie out and either ayton or turner back in. both have been linked to the nets outside of the KD talk so i think it's possible we see that happen.

then KD decides. and maybe he goes into the season with the nets to see how things look. I trust that his priority is the best chance at winning and if he thinks its the nets he may give that a chance.

[GTR11]

Thomas Bryant is clearly the profile we should be after since we lack bigs that can shoot/score.

Really liked the additions of TJ Warren and Sumner. Nice guard/wing depth additions alongside Royce ONeal.

We keep adding shooting which is EXACTLY what we need around Simmons.

I'm of the belief we simply can't win with Kyrie on the roster. Too much drama/distractions.

I'd trade Kyrie for more depth(Center, guard depth) and force KD to make a choice.

He has a 4 year contract, **** giving those 2 egomaniacs the power to **** our team.

same. I'd be working on trades with kyrie out and either ayton or turner back in. both have been linked to the nets outside of the KD talk so i think it's possible we see that happen.

then KD decides. and maybe he goes into the season with the nets to see how things look. I trust that his priority is the best chance at winning and if he thinks its the nets he may give that a chance.

I share your sentiments guys and can add more on top of that. However as a fan who wants to win it all right now, I'm not sure we should do Kyrie ( dumb unthought, emotional move ) here. We really not giving ourselves a favor here if we think it out. I mean just look:
1- we can give Kyrie a chance to prove himself. He's undoubtedly gives us best chance to win and be fave going vs any team. He's a freak of the nature talent that can go head to head vs best of them. With that said, he of course brings unwanted baggage that can derail entire team. If that situation will occur during the season, than we just can flip him for Turner or wait till offseason. Than we can do three way team trade where Kyrie will end up in LA, Turner in BK and Indy will TPE ( Lakers will have cap ).
2- as reported, owners will definitely exercise ETO and enforce corrections into CBA. Which will mean Kyrie will still won't escape contract that will look a lot different. Meaning he might reconsider a lot of things. This is definitely going to be his last max contract he can get. So betting on him getting into line ain't far fetched. This will allow us to get control again. If he won't cooperate, than we can flip him for whatever is out there.

Point here is. We need to be mature here and let it play it out. Let's see what Kyrie and his camp going to do. From the way Scoop sounded, Kyrie and his camp realized that they won't win. It's in their best interest to cooperate and make thing work. Lets just wait and see. As been said, ball is in KD and Kyrie side right now. We have to see what they going to do.

[MrDollarBills]

So

Simmons/Mills/Sumner
Irving/Curry/Thomas
Harris/O'Neale
Durant/Warren/Edwards
Claxton/Sharpe

2 more slots. Is Mike Muscala still on the market?

jmo but hard to see all 3 of mills/curry/harris on the roster together since they brought in o'neale.

also claxton/sharpe is unlikely to cut it at C. they could sign a vet, but i think marks coup de grace is nabbing Ayton with a filler piece from Phoenix with Kyrie (to LAL), Harris, Claxton out the door the other way.

Simmons / Mills / Sumner
Seth / Thomas
O'Neale / Warren
KD / Edwards
Ayton / Sharpe

add a cheap vet center to hedge sharpe and maybe a filler wing from Phoenix like Crowder? that's a much tougher defensive team with a ton of shooting around Simmons and a highly efficient inside scorer in Ayton.

by the way this also sets up an easy in-season deal if things with Simmons don't fit. basically just go all in with whatever remaining assets they have to swap Simmons for Mitchell.

Claxton can't be traded until December

[GTR11]

Another C who shoots at 35% clip from 3 and at very low salary. He also becomes odd man out with Rudy on the roster.

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[Netaman]

So

Simmons/Mills/Sumner
Irving/Curry/Thomas
Harris/O'Neale
Durant/Warren/Edwards
Claxton/Sharpe

2 more slots. Is Mike Muscala still on the market?

jmo but hard to see all 3 of mills/curry/harris on the roster together since they brought in o'neale.

also claxton/sharpe is unlikely to cut it at C. they could sign a vet, but i think marks coup de grace is nabbing Ayton with a filler piece from Phoenix with Kyrie (to LAL), Harris, Claxton out the door the other way.

Simmons / Mills / Sumner
Seth / Thomas
O'Neale / Warren
KD / Edwards
Ayton / Sharpe

add a cheap vet center to hedge sharpe and maybe a filler wing from Phoenix like Crowder? that's a much tougher defensive team with a ton of shooting around Simmons and a highly efficient inside scorer in Ayton.

by the way this also sets up an easy in-season deal if things with Simmons don't fit. basically just go all in with whatever remaining assets they have to swap Simmons for Mitchell.

Claxton can't be traded until December

technically nobody has officially signed yet though right?

I haven't seen an team comment on him coming back like they did on O'Neale.

[GTR11]

Kind of put my mind at ease for now.

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[sashaturiaf]

Current C available in FA:

Thomas Bryant
Ed Davis
D. Cousins
T. Thompson
Devontae Cacok

Out of these options, I'd take Bryant on a flyer but a rather try to swing a trade using the remaining TPE + a pick.

I think Dwight Howard is available too. I'd take him over those guys since he's still a menace on the boards and strong defensively. Nobody is gonna throw Dwight around.

Failing that I'd try and look to Europe for a stretch 5. I'm no scout but there has to be some tall guy in Europe who is at least better than Muscala.

[sashaturiaf]

Kind of put my mind at ease for now.

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We need to bring Kessler back. Would offer him one of those Hinkie specials (2 years with 2 further years team option) and see if he bites.

[MGrand15]

Basic breakdown of our team if we do the originally proposed trades:

KD for Ayton, Bridges, Cam Johnson + all the picks
Kyrie for Westbrook + 2 picks

Westbrook is either sent to another team along with 1 pick or we just buy him out.

Curry / Patty / Sumner
Bridges / O'Neale / Thomas
Harris / Warren
Simmons / Johnson / Edwards
Ayton / Claxton / Sharpe

The team is a light on pure playmakers / shotcreators but we'd have a ton of defense + shooting on the team.

I'd be more than happy if that was our squad next year. We give Simmons 1 year as the primary ballhandler and decision maker - which he's never had. We give Ayton 1 year as option 1 in the half court.