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Post#1381 » by Prokorov » Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:37 pm

Mkdaman1818 wrote:Avery Bradley is available


He will be available as a free agent at years end as well. no need to trade for him when he is probably gonna cost you 4/70 anyhow in free agency.

i do like him as a fit here if detroit would take allen crabbe. Bradley is just a flat out better player who has proven to have a huge positive impact onw ins, 2 way guy, outstanding 3 point shooter. fits the culture well.

id be all for singing him or dealing for him if its crabbe or a minor asset package (harris + a second?)

Dinwiddie - Bradley - Levert - RHJ - Allen is a sick lineup of 2 way guys with high energy/defense/effort levels. id love to see that lineup.

overall you have:

Dinwiddie - DLO - Bradley - RHJ - Allen

Levert - Stauskus - crabbe -acy - okafor
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Post#1382 » by TheNetsFan » Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:09 pm

I'd love Bradley...as an expiring contract.
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Post#1383 » by MGrand15 » Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:46 pm

I don't see the point in trading for Bradley if we're still in the position where cap space is tight and we need to pay him 10+ mil a year. Best case scenario, he's still a guy that can only play the 2 - where we already have Russell and LeVert. Bradley would be a win now move and figure the rest out later.
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Post#1384 » by Prokorov » Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:29 pm

MGrand15 wrote:I don't see the point in trading for Bradley if we're still in the position where cap space is tight and we need to pay him 10+ mil a year. Best case scenario, he's still a guy that can only play the 2 - where we already have Russell and LeVert. Bradley would be a win now move and figure the rest out later.


bradley played PG, SG, and some SF in boston... he can certainly gaurd SFs. he plays really big for his height. and he can flat out shoot. he would instantly be our best player (unless russell makes his leap) and give us another 2 way guy and great shooter.

id have no issue using all our cap space this summer on bradley. im not sure that we could do better then him anyhow
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Post#1385 » by Claud » Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:15 pm

Bradley... eh. Not impressed.

Also trading RHJ for another Center makes no sense to me..at this point I wish Allen/Okafor were the only ones getting PT at that position. Acy and Zeller have been trash for a while now.

I think Crabbe is decent but if we can find a way to get rid of that contract we should DO IT.
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Post#1386 » by Keith Van Horn » Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:31 pm

has Bradley been starting in Detroit? I don't think he would here, but would probably get minutes in late game stretches. I can see him and Demare just being a high energy duo (add Allen to that). I don't know what I'd give up though for him. Not sure if Marks sees him as an investment either.
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Post#1387 » by TheNetsFan » Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:36 pm

So New Orleans has an extremely large expiring contract in the form of an injured player that will likely not be able to play until after Christmas. It'll be interesting to see what they'll do with Boogie. Odds are they keep him and try to work out a prove-it deal in the off-season, but they could also decide to have that be somebody else's problem & use the expiring contract to push for the playoffs this year & sneak under the luxury tax. They were rumored to have interest in Carroll before. It could be an opportunity to open up cap space if we're willing to trade some youth with a larger contract.
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Post#1388 » by treiz » Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:47 pm

Mkdaman1818 wrote:Avery Bradley is available


I'm good thanks, he's due a big deal after this year. Unless we can trade Moz/Crabbe for him and clear some money off the books then there's really no reason to go for him.
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Post#1389 » by Keith Van Horn » Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:54 pm

TheNetsFan wrote:So New Orleans has an extremely large expiring contract in the form of an injured player that will likely not be able to play until after Christmas. It'll be interesting to see what they'll do with Boogie. Odds are they keep him and try to work out a prove-it deal in the off-season, but they could also decide to have that be somebody else's problem & use the expiring contract to push for the playoffs this year & sneak under the luxury tax. They were rumored to have interest in Carroll before. It could be an opportunity to open up cap space if we're willing to trade some youth with a larger contract.

Definitely more on NO's end if they want to part with the experiment and try to make something of this season and create a new dynamic going forward. But I doubt they pull the plug. Him and Davis were both All Stars this year and play very well together. Can't see it happening for us. I think another team would easily outbid us too if they wanted to make a play for him.
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Post#1390 » by Mosdefinition » Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:13 pm

TheNetsFan wrote:So New Orleans has an extremely large expiring contract in the form of an injured player that will likely not be able to play until after Christmas. It'll be interesting to see what they'll do with Boogie. Odds are they keep him and try to work out a prove-it deal in the off-season, but they could also decide to have that be somebody else's problem & use the expiring contract to push for the playoffs this year & sneak under the luxury tax. They were rumored to have interest in Carroll before. It could be an opportunity to open up cap space if we're willing to trade some youth with a larger contract.


As I always say I didn't want him when the nets could draft him with an Achilles tear he's never going to be the same player
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Post#1391 » by vincecarter4pres » Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:17 pm

What would the Knix offer for RHJ? Their pick?
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Post#1392 » by MGrand15 » Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:51 pm

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MGrand15 wrote:I don't see the point in trading for Bradley if we're still in the position where cap space is tight and we need to pay him 10+ mil a year. Best case scenario, he's still a guy that can only play the 2 - where we already have Russell and LeVert. Bradley would be a win now move and figure the rest out later.


bradley played PG, SG, and some SF in boston... he can certainly gaurd SFs. he plays really big for his height. and he can flat out shoot. he would instantly be our best player (unless russell makes his leap) and give us another 2 way guy and great shooter.

id have no issue using all our cap space this summer on bradley. im not sure that we could do better then him anyhow


I like Bradley but I think you're a lot higher on him than I am. In Boston, he was playing next to Smart and Crowder - who usually took on the bigger guys. And were a safety net defensively with Horford. And Brad Stevens had him in the perfect system offensively.

I just don't think he's a huge impact guy. He's a career 36% 3pt shooter who doesn't bring much ball handling, playmaking or shot creation to the table. And I don't think he can guard 3s regularly.

Nice player but unless we're 1 piece away (like OKC or something) or we can get him cheap, I'd pass. Now if we can trade him for Crabbe, that's a different story. Crabbe for an expiring is something you think about regardless.
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Post#1393 » by TheNetsFan » Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:00 pm

Mosdefinition wrote:
TheNetsFan wrote:So New Orleans has an extremely large expiring contract in the form of an injured player that will likely not be able to play until after Christmas. It'll be interesting to see what they'll do with Boogie. Odds are they keep him and try to work out a prove-it deal in the off-season, but they could also decide to have that be somebody else's problem & use the expiring contract to push for the playoffs this year & sneak under the luxury tax. They were rumored to have interest in Carroll before. It could be an opportunity to open up cap space if we're willing to trade some youth with a larger contract.


As I always say I didn't want him when the nets could draft him with an Achilles tear he's never going to be the same player

You're missing the point. The point is not to trade for him or his rights. It's to create cap space when his contract expires.
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Post#1394 » by Prokorov » Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:04 pm

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I like Bradley but I think you're a lot higher on him than I am. In Boston, he was playing next to Smart and Crowder - who usually took on the bigger guys. And were a safety net defensively with Horford. And Brad Stevens had him in the perfect system offensively.


Bradley was an outstanding defender before crowder or smart were celtics. He was the celtics stopper at the end of the celtics big run in 2011 and 2012 and came in as a stopper late in games on the best player. in fact even what smart was in boston bradley would gaurd the tougher matchup regardless of size and crowder often served as the PF covering the 4s as they went small with crowder a ton especially late in games. this is also a guy who averaged 6 rebounds a game last year

I just don't think he's a huge impact guy. He's a career 36% 3pt shooter who doesn't bring much ball handling, playmaking or shot creation to the table. And I don't think he can guard 3s regularly.


Hard to say he isnt a huge impact guy given how heavy his on/off RAPM/RPM numbers have been over the years. and how detroit has turned it around with fans and coaches giving him so much credit for that. 36% career from three is quite good... not to mention better of late at 38% and 39% the past 2 seasons. he is a solid ball handler who is probably as good as anyone we have at creating shots. he would certainly be our best offensive player outside of maybe russell.

Nice player but unless we're 1 piece away (like OKC or something) or we can get him cheap, I'd pass. Now if we can trade him for Crabbe, that's a different story. Crabbe for an expiring is something you think about regardless.


i like him as a culture changer and another 2 way guy to help us build. at 27 he is still semi-young and he is the kind of guy you can always deal later since he doesnt everything you'd want on the court.

but im kind of with you as far as it may not fit long term. turning crabbe into him however would be a huge win
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Post#1395 » by Trader_Joe » Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:15 pm

Advanced defensive stats have said Bradley is negative defender for a couple years now. Teams have been better with him on the bench on D. Detroit is 7 points better on D and 3 points better on O with him on the bench this year.

Also, don't think a guy who paid a sexual assault accuser 400k for her silence necessarily fits the culture.
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Post#1396 » by MGrand15 » Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:20 pm

TheNetsFan wrote:So New Orleans has an extremely large expiring contract in the form of an injured player that will likely not be able to play until after Christmas. It'll be interesting to see what they'll do with Boogie. Odds are they keep him and try to work out a prove-it deal in the off-season, but they could also decide to have that be somebody else's problem & use the expiring contract to push for the playoffs this year & sneak under the luxury tax. They were rumored to have interest in Carroll before. It could be an opportunity to open up cap space if we're willing to trade some youth with a larger contract.


I think NO would love to do something like that but it'd be a huge PR hit unless Davis signs off on the move.
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Post#1397 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:33 pm

Paradise wrote:Knicks have inquired about Rondae according to Berman.


Who are they sending back? Outside of KP they really don't have much to trade besides their 2018 1st
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Post#1398 » by IceManBK1 » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:58 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
Paradise wrote:Knicks have inquired about Rondae according to Berman.


Who are they sending back? Outside of KP they really don't have much to trade besides their 2018 1st


I would give them Lavert&RHJ for KP :D
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Post#1399 » by Prokorov » Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:03 pm

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MrDollarBills wrote:
Paradise wrote:Knicks have inquired about Rondae according to Berman.


Who are they sending back? Outside of KP they really don't have much to trade besides their 2018 1st


I would give them Lavert&RHJ for KP :D


id give our entire team for KP
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Post#1400 » by MGrand15 » Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:03 pm

I would consider RHJ for KP and their 1st if I'm feeling generous that day.

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