***Official 2021-22 Offseason Thread***

[TheNetsFan]

So

Simmons/Mills/Sumner
Irving/Curry/Thomas
Harris/O'Neale
Durant/Warren/Edwards
Claxton/Sharpe

2 more slots. Is Mike Muscala still on the market?

jmo but hard to see all 3 of mills/curry/harris on the roster together since they brought in o'neale.

also claxton/sharpe is unlikely to cut it at C. they could sign a vet, but i think marks coup de grace is nabbing Ayton with a filler piece from Phoenix with Kyrie (to LAL), Harris, Claxton out the door the other way.

Simmons / Mills / Sumner
Seth / Thomas
O'Neale / Warren
KD / Edwards
Ayton / Sharpe

add a cheap vet center to hedge sharpe and maybe a filler wing from Phoenix like Crowder? that's a much tougher defensive team with a ton of shooting around Simmons and a highly efficient inside scorer in Ayton.

by the way this also sets up an easy in-season deal if things with Simmons don't fit. basically just go all in with whatever remaining assets they have to swap Simmons for Mitchell.

I'm not sure about that. Some experts have been pointing out that because guys like Taurean Prince & Thad Young signed "extensions" rather than new contracts, they're eligible to be traded at any time. Claxton was extension eligible, so it's possible he can fall into that same category. I don't know the specifics about his new deal.
Claxton can't be traded until December

[Papi_swav]

wow perfect signing with TJ, dude can flat out score. And Sumner was also a sneaky good signing. See guys, I still believe in Marks. he's very good at these low key signings. I agree with you guys, KD and Kyrie might as well stay, they're not going to get a better roster than this, I cant see a better situation out there for them right now. Whatever team we trade them to will be gutted. This is as good as it gets for surrounding them with a well rounded team. We're well balanced ! All we need is a big now, I would def take a flyer on Bryant but I'm sure Marks will find a sneaky good move out there. Hope we retain Edwards too, the more wing defenders the better.

Hopefully we stay healthy, and if they can't win this year than they have to look in the mirror. A full season of the Big 3 with these role players should be awesome and definitely a top 3 seed as long as everyone stay healthy and Kyrie don't go AWOL.

[JoseRizal]

This is what Marks is really good at, signing players who were previously dismissed whether through injuries or lack of opportunities (see Dinwiddie, Joe). I'm glad he made this move regardless of the KD & Kyrie uncertainty.

I guess this is what happens when the FO is free to make sensible and sound decisions, as opposed to being dictated by their stars.

[Netaman]

This is what Marks is really good at, signing players who were previously dismissed whether through injuries or lack of opportunities (see Dinwiddie, Joe). I'm glad he made this move regardless of the KD & Kyrie uncertainty.

I guess this is what happens when the FO is free to make sensible and sound decisions, as opposed to being dictated by their stars.

To some degree I think the amount the FO was dictated too is getting a little distorted.

We are all forgetting that there was a good 3-4 months of the Harden stuff where Marks refused to engage with it and held pretty firm. That really only changed when Dinwiddie tore his knee the first game of the year and rest of the lineup didn't come together.

From day 1 when Harden arrived he did fix almost everything that was wrong on the court, he just couldn't stay on the court for the first time in his career. A huge selling point to getting him had been his perceived durability and reliability in the face of Kyrie going awol and others being hurt.

Going all in on the big 3 was equal parts necessary, correct, and combustable - and I don't think they rushed into it blindly as much as events out of their control made it the only viable path to a championship.

[JoseRizal]

This is what Marks is really good at, signing players who were previously dismissed whether through injuries or lack of opportunities (see Dinwiddie, Joe). I'm glad he made this move regardless of the KD & Kyrie uncertainty.

I guess this is what happens when the FO is free to make sensible and sound decisions, as opposed to being dictated by their stars.

To some degree I think the amount the FO was dictated too is getting a little distorted.

We are all forgetting that there was a good 3-4 months of the Harden stuff where Marks refused to engage with it and held pretty firm. That really only changed when Dinwiddie tore his knee the first game of the year and rest of the lineup didn't come together.

From day 1 when Harden arrived he did fix almost everything that was wrong on the court, he just couldn't stay on the court for the first time in his career. A huge selling point to getting him had been his perceived durability and reliability in the face of Kyrie going awol and others being hurt.

Going all in on the big 3 was equal parts necessary, correct, and combustable - and I don't think they rushed into it blindly as much as events out of their control made it the only viable path to a championship.

I actually have no regrets trading for Harden as in hindsight, it was the most logical step to be closer to contending. What I just hated, is the fact the Marks (like Billy King) did not put any protection in those FRPs. We already gave up 4 pick swaps, so why the need for unprotected ones?

[Netaman]

This is what Marks is really good at, signing players who were previously dismissed whether through injuries or lack of opportunities (see Dinwiddie, Joe). I'm glad he made this move regardless of the KD & Kyrie uncertainty.

I guess this is what happens when the FO is free to make sensible and sound decisions, as opposed to being dictated by their stars.

To some degree I think the amount the FO was dictated too is getting a little distorted.

We are all forgetting that there was a good 3-4 months of the Harden stuff where Marks refused to engage with it and held pretty firm. That really only changed when Dinwiddie tore his knee the first game of the year and rest of the lineup didn't come together.

From day 1 when Harden arrived he did fix almost everything that was wrong on the court, he just couldn't stay on the court for the first time in his career. A huge selling point to getting him had been his perceived durability and reliability in the face of Kyrie going awol and others being hurt.

Going all in on the big 3 was equal parts necessary, correct, and combustable - and I don't think they rushed into it blindly as much as events out of their control made it the only viable path to a championship.

I actually have no regrets trading for Harden as in hindsight, it was the most logical step to be closer to contending. What I just hated, is the fact the Marks (like Billy King) did not put any protection in those FRPs. We already gave up 4 pick swaps, so why the need for unprotected ones?

that's fair. there was probably more time to hold out on doing that deal. just bad luck harden pulled his hammy so soon after coming over.

[JoseRizal]

Lakers just signed Thomas Bryant. Do we still have options for C?

[Rastas]

Lakers just signed Thomas Bryant. Do we still have options for C?

I have a feeling Ben will play plenty minutes as a Point Centre.

[brook]

Current C available in FA:

Thomas Bryant
Ed Davis
D. Cousins
T. Thompson
Devontae Cacok

Out of these options, I'd take Bryant on a flyer but a rather try to swing a trade using the remaining TPE + a pick.

Bryant has just signed with the Lakers.
We can add on this list: Hassan Whiteside and Dwight Howard.

[MrDollarBills]

I'm kind of pissed that Marks passed on Bryant. We need a 5 that can hit threes

[Fallout_3]

And stay healthy.

[Gooner]

Lakers just signed Thomas Bryant. Do we still have options for C?

I have a feeling Ben will play plenty minutes as a Point Centre.

There will be a lot of small ball for sure. I think they should trade one of Seth Curry/Patty Mills, as they are exactly the same type of player. Maybe Curry for Maxi Kleber who can be that stretch 5 for Nets, and Mavs get Brunson replacement.

[sashaturiaf]

Kessler is back, haven't seen details of the deal yet but says multi year contract so might be a 2+2 Hinkie special

[Hello Brooklyn]

Kess is back. I'm pretty happy with the wing depth.

I think we need to add another Center. Still have the MLE to do it.

Probably very tough for Marks to recruit FAs right now.

[Hello Brooklyn]

For all the **** Harden got, I think its true that he was the leader of the team last season as was reported.

Think about it.

We were garbage with just KD-Kyrie. Then its been a disaster since he quit/left.

I really think he was the vocal leader of this team in that one season we played really well. Without him this team lacked total direction.

[3pt_chucker]

I'm kind of pissed that Marks passed on Bryant. We need a 5 that can hit threes

Why?

Just took a flyer on two injury prone players. Add in that Clax can never stay healthy, a huge risk to sign a back up/potential starter that is super unreliable as well.

Plus, with the Lakers, he is almost guaranteed to have a starting role in the spotlight, whereas on the Nets he'd be starting behind Claxton.

[Claud]

Naz Reid and Mike Muscala are still out there.

Myles Turner could maybe work if Kyrie gets traded?

[Netaman]

So with Kessler back under contract, the current contracts on the books are:

New deals
1. Patty (g)
2. O'Neale (w)
3. Claxton (c)
4. Warren (w)
5. Edwards (w)
6. Sumner (g)

Existing deals unlikely to move
7. Simmons (g/w)
8. Seth (g)
9. Harris (w)

Movable young guys
10. Thomas (g)
11. Sharpe (c)

Malcontents
12. KD (w)
13. Kyrie (g)

Two Way
14. A. Williams (g)

they have the MLE left to spend and clearly need at least 1 other rotational center.

[Claud]

I'm kind of pissed that Marks passed on Bryant. We need a 5 that can hit threes

Warriors start Green and Looney and they are the champs.

Ideally we want to play with 4 shooters along Ben, but as long as the team fundamentals improve(Defense and rebouding mostly) we should be good starting Ben/Clax + 3 shooters. Deathline up with KD/Ben at the 4/5 to finish games.

[Netaman]

Naz Reid and Mike Muscala are still out there.

Myles Turner could maybe work if Kyrie gets traded?

I could very much see something like this. Indiana basically gets picks from the Lakers in this to facilitate. http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2dfkayx3

net line up post trade:

Conley / Patty / Sumner
Seth / Harris
Simmons / O'Neale / Warren (he's basically Simmons going crazy insurance)
KD / Edwards
Turner / Claxton / Sharpe

plus 1 or 2 other vets on either the exception or the minimum.

At that point KD would have to seriously look at how improved that roster is around him. Shooters all around Simmons, 2 mobile shot blockers, Conley would be a nice little role player in limited minutes.

I'm not sure how but even losing Kyrie that's a better 3 point shooting team than they were at any point the last 2 years with O'neale, Warren, Turner, and Conley all added with Patty, Seth, and Joe back too. And obviously far better defensively.