This offseason

[brook]

Hamilton, Foye, Booker and Goodwin must to go.

Lopez only for a good trade.

Harris and Kilpatrick is ok off the bench, but I trade them if we needed a roster spot.

Nicholson is useless but this contract says he remain with us.

[jbeachboy]

i hope we clean house again as much in offseason, this roster is going nowhere.

[jbeachboy]

Hamilton, Foye, Booker and Goodwin must to go.

Lopez only for a good trade.

Harris and Kilpatrick is ok off the bench, but I trade them if we needed a roster spot.

Nicholson is useless but this contract says he remain with us.

why archie gooddwin? he didnt get much of a chance.

[brook]

Hamilton, Foye, Booker and Goodwin must to go.

Lopez only for a good trade.

Harris and Kilpatrick is ok off the bench, but I trade them if we needed a roster spot.

Nicholson is useless but this contract says he remain with us.

why archie gooddwin? he didnt get much of a chance.

don't impress me and have a terrible jump shot.

maybe I retain him if we trade kilpatrick.

[jbeachboy]

Hamilton, Foye, Booker and Goodwin must to go.

Lopez only for a good trade.

Harris and Kilpatrick is ok off the bench, but I trade them if we needed a roster spot.

Nicholson is useless but this contract says he remain with us.

why archie gooddwin? he didnt get much of a chance.

don't impress me and have a terrible jump shot.

maybe I retain him if we trade kilpatrick.

id like to see him play more, i think he can improve that jumpshot over summer.

[624]

KCP just had a DUI. With the culture Marks and Kenny want to make here does that eliminate him from our offer?

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[Prokorov]

KCP just had a DUI. With the culture Marks and Kenny want to make here does that eliminate him from our offer?

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I doubt it. i think the culture they want is supportive of their players. is this was some kid of violent offense things would be different

[Jagger-meister]

KCP just had a DUI. With the culture Marks and Kenny want to make here does that eliminate him from our offer?

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I doubt it. i think the culture they want is supportive of their players. is this was some kid of violent offense things would be different

I hope we dont sign KCP. It will be a big mistake. The guy is an average prospect looking to get paid.

[MrDollarBills]

Getting caught for a DUI on a first offense doesn't automatically mean you are a bad person. It shows a clear lack of judgement, or could be a sign of an underlying issue.

It's when you're caught multiple times driving drunk does it begin to clearly be an issue of not only a serious problem, but a clear lack of character. For most people, a DUI is a wake up call that they need to fix something or make better decisions. If you're an ass hole like Ty Lawson, or a better example would be one of my own best friends who has been caught 3 times behind the wheel drunk and has YET to learn his lesson to the point where i've washed my hands of him because he's a degenerate that may kill himself or god forbid someone else, then that screams a real character issue.

I wouldn't think the Nets would use this incident to write off KCP as a bad guy, but he'd definitely have to explain himself and get vetted before a serious offer is considered.

[TheNetsFan]

Crabbe can't be traded to us on draft night.

Aaah you're right, 1 year from the time he was matched, correct?

Yes. Theoretically, a deal can be agreed upon, teams select players for each other, and the deal becomes official July 10th or 11th, but that's a stretch.

[TheNetsFan]

KCP just had a DUI. With the culture Marks and Kenny want to make here does that eliminate him from our offer?

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Probably not, but I could see an offer becoming more incentive based.

[Ror1997]

The DUI for KCP isn't a deal breaker per say, but it does complicate things. I think its further proof that the max isn't a good idea for KCP, but it doesn't completely sour me in the idea of giving him Crabbe money. This might actually work in our favor. The Pistons are already reluctant to give him huge money, so we wouldn't have to give him a massive over pay. We still have to over pay, but now we might be able go get away with the pistons not matching a 4/75 type contract.

[TheNetsFan]

it would be poor form to pick up skils option and trade him for peanuts. skil can earn more then his option of we just let him walk.

His option is June 30th. I'm imagining he'll be part of a package deal on draft night, either attached to Bropez or Booker, or something with the likes of him, Hamilton, Nicholsen and cap for a horrid contract and a pick.

I'm wondering if Portland will wind up just doing something like their pick and Turner or even Crabbe for that package, probably with the later of our current 2 picks for Crabbe?

I do feel PDX would like Lopez, but I don't think our FO wants to take back all that bad salary for him while only getting the 15th and 20th picks.

But, if they got Crabbe/15th for Nicholsen/Hamilton/Skil/cap space/26th pick, I think Marks would jump on it.

the thing with portland is it isnt worth it to make a deal unless they shed multiple contracts. moving any one of them doesn't get them under the tax. i their pick ends up being 17th maybe they do it. but even still that deal only sheds 8 million. im not sure im dropping 9 or 10 spots ot shed 8 million.

Portland doesn't need to shed multiple contracts in one deal with one team. They can explore other avenues to do so. Additionally, it's not just shedding $8mil. In the above scenario, it's $8mil next year & $12mil the 2 following years, plus luxury taxes for each of the 3 years. You could be talking $50mil or more in total savings.

[MrDollarBills]

The DUI for KCP isn't a deal breaker per say, but it does complicate things. I think its further proof that the max isn't a good idea for KCP, but it doesn't completely sour me in the idea of giving him Crabbe money. This might actually work in our favor. The Pistons are already reluctant to give him huge money, so we wouldn't have to give him a massive over pay. We still have to over pay, but now we might be able go get away with the pistons not matching a 4/75 type contract.

I would give him Crabbe money. He'd be a solid fit with us as long as he can handle any problems that he may be dealing with that led him to catching that DUI.

[Claud]

My off-season ideas

Trading chips: Booker and Lopez.

Booker + one of our picks to move up in the teens in case there's a player Mark likes.

Lopez for a lottery pick + young player, no bad contracts though(No to Turner/Crabbe)

Out: Hamilton, Foye and Nicholson.

On the fence: SK, and Booker. Both low BBIQ players. Not sure they fit in. Another one is Archie Goodwin who has had flashes when given a chance but I'd rather bring in someone more experienced who can handle the ball and make good decisions. Would not mind it if we keep Archie though.

Roster going into next season:


Lin/Din/
IW/Harris/
Levert/KJ
RHJ/ACY
Lopez

Needs:

- A PF/C type to backup Brook and challenge RHJ/ACY for starting 4 position.
- Another combo guard similar to Lin who can score but also be a play-maker.
- A 3-and-D wing wouldn't hurt.

Otto Porter and Teodosic would be ideal targets. In the draft I'd go BPA but keep a keen eye on bigs. We need some young athletic bigs badly.

[Keith Van Horn]

The DUI for KCP isn't a deal breaker per say, but it does complicate things. I think its further proof that the max isn't a good idea for KCP, but it doesn't completely sour me in the idea of giving him Crabbe money. This might actually work in our favor. The Pistons are already reluctant to give him huge money, so we wouldn't have to give him a massive over pay. We still have to over pay, but now we might be able go get away with the pistons not matching a 4/75 type contract.

I would give him Crabbe money. He'd be a solid fit with us as long as he can handle any problems that he may be dealing with that led him to catching that DUI.

same, I still want him here. That would be a baseline deal for me. I can see Nets offering him more though. He fits our missing man perfectly.

[CalamityX12]

KCP under the suspicion of a DUI????

shame!

[Paradise]

I highly doubt Acy is going anywhere. He fits the model of what this culture is supposed to be about and he shoots it better than Booker and he's a better defender.

Booker, Hamilton, Foye, Nicholson will all be the odd men out. Booker, RHJ, Kilpatrick would likely only be moved for draft compensation. Only way I see either one going is unless a team is willing to deal a higher pick if we packaged either one in a deal with a 1st.

Foye is gone. free agent. same likely for kilpatrick. those will be the 2 obvious cuts. if they can move hamilton or booker i think they would consider it. Nicholson could be cut i guess if we really need the roster spot.

Kilpatrick is a 15ppg off the bench scorer on a minimum contract. He's not going anywhere unless it involves receiving a good player or mid-late lotto talent. Likely not to happen.

No reason to drop him. He's a local NYer and a good guy capable of being a sixth man candidate on a better team and he's on an extremely cheap and friendly contract right now.

Foye, Hamilton, Nicholson, Harris, + CBA's extra 2 roster spots is what we'll be working with in terms of roster space. 6 available slots. Everyone else will be looking to build on their process and weaknesses.

Lin/???/Dinwiddie
???/Skil/Whitehead
LeVert/McDaniels
RHJ/???/Booker
Lopez/???/Acy

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[kamaze]

KCP under the suspicion of a DUI????

shame!

He'll still get a max contract he didn't even get arrested just a ticket.

[Claud]

If we are going to throw big money at role players then i prefer overpaying Otto Porter over KCP.