2019 Draft Prospect Watch Thread

MrDollarBills · Post #141 » by **MrDollarBills** » Fri Aug 24, 2018 1:44 pm

JoseRizal wrote:Zion is “The pick” for me! You can never go wrong with natural physical gifts coupled with an elite developmental coach & staff.

OTOH, it’s so refreshing to finally read discussions on top tier prospects as opposed to end of the round picks we’re left off since 2015...

Isn't it refreshing? Like we actually have a shot at any one of these guys. I'm so pumped :lol:

JoseRizal · Post #142 » by **JoseRizal** » Fri Aug 24, 2018 2:23 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
JoseRizal wrote:Zion is “The pick” for me! You can never go wrong with natural physical gifts coupled with an elite developmental coach & staff.

OTOH, it’s so refreshing to finally read discussions on top tier prospects as opposed to end of the round picks we’re left off since 2015...

Isn't it refreshing? Like we actually have a shot at any one of these guys. I'm so pumped

This early, I’m already plotting my vacation leave for Draft Night... :lol:

shakendfries · Post #143 » by **shakendfries** » Fri Aug 24, 2018 3:14 pm

Watch on YouTube

Scouting Report via The Stepien

Spoiler:

STRENGTHS

VERSATILITY:
- Plays PG for his HS and AAU team and handled ball handling duties for US u19 team as well. Not amazing vision but his handle allows him to make plays for others and himself. Able to bring the ball up even against pressure.
- Very fluid and coordinated, doesn’t look out of place at any position 1-4. Will find open man, comfortable making pass off dribble, keeps his head up, likes to draw and kick
- Shot selection needs work but he has excellent range on his 3 point shoot, already comfortable from NBA range. Quick release.
- Gets low to the ground with his handle, flexible, has serious moves off the dribble. Live dribble counters, can stop on a dime and pull up or use size and craft to get all the way. Handle doesn’t slow him down at all, in open court situation, his top speed is pretty good.
- When feet are set and he goes up with balance he is a knockdown shooter. Low 3pt percentages seem to be more a product of role and shot selection. Hand down, man down from out to 30 feet, can really provide great spacing in modern game.

PHYSICAL TOOLS:
- 6’7 with 7’1 wing span, in one AAU game defended Marvin Bagley and the opposing team’s PG about half the time each. Battled Bagley for post position, good job of denial.
- Excellent anticipation and timing to go along with length, absolutely a terror in foul court press, traps and passing lanes.
- His wingspan and size even allows him to be a threat as a rim protector. Good rebounder as well.
- Not huge but solid frame, can play some small ball 4, does well with contact, fights for rebounds, can post up, understands positioning.
- All-NBA defensive potential, super versatile but active with quick hands as well. Length allows him to cover huge distance.

WEAKNESSES

AVERAGE BURST/EXPLOSIVENESS:
-Not explosive finisher, gets to the basket with handle and skill more than athletic ability. Doesn’t really get up as much as you’d expect with his length, struggles to finish in tight spaces and over length.
-Just average first step, his tendency to settle for jumpers is partly explained by inability to beat guys to spots, just average quickness. More fluid/smooth than quick twitch.

SHOT SELECTION/DECISION MAKING:
-Loves pull up 3s, took more 3 pointers than anyone else in EYBL this season but shot less than 30%. Serious tendency to take zero pass pull up 3s, about 5 per game
-Often has poor balance on pull ups, tends to lean or fade instead of going straight up.
-Still learning how to run PnR, not too many advanced reads
-Not always aggressive, some have questioned his motor but I think may have to do with just overall approach/mentality. Avoids contact.

OVERALL
Super versatile forward with elite defensive potential but does he have the first step, explosiveness and decision making to be a primary option offensively?

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Claud · Post #144 » by **Claud** » Mon Aug 27, 2018 11:20 pm

#Tank4Zion :nod:

vincecarter4pres · Post #145 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Tue Aug 28, 2018 1:12 am

Depending on circumstances with work next summer and the draft itself, this could be the year I finally make it out to Vegas for Summer League.

Prokorov · Post #146 » by **Prokorov** » Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:34 am

vincecarter4pres wrote:Depending on circumstances with work next summer and the draft itself, this could be the year I finally make it out to Vegas for Summer League.

if we drafted zion it would be appointment watching even in summer league

MrDollarBills · Post #147 » by **MrDollarBills** » Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:51 am

Sean Marks said he wants to make the playoffs this season.

I hope that was just lip service to season ticket holders.

Prokorov · Post #148 » by **Prokorov** » Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:56 am

MrDollarBills wrote:Sean Marks said he wants to make the playoffs this season.

I hope that was just lip service to season ticket holders.

it wont matter. we dont have the talent even if he does

MrDollarBills · Post #149 » by **MrDollarBills** » Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:58 am

I'm looking at that late march and april schedule. i think the NBA threw us a bone sneakily. conventional wisdom says the Nets should not make the playoffs this year.

i don't care if we lose 12 games in a row to end the season. whatever gets us a top 8 pick to package with DEN 2019 1st

we need to at least nab one of those Duke players. I would prefer Williamson since we need the athleticism.

I could care less about what happens in free agency. if we land a stud in next summer's draft all of this will have been worth it.

Paradise · Post #150 » by **Paradise** » Wed Aug 29, 2018 1:38 pm

Read on Twitter

MrDollarBills · Post #151 » by **MrDollarBills** » Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:49 pm

The Nets better be packaging those picks and moving up. Anything else is nonsense.

TheNetsFan · Post #152 » by **TheNetsFan** » Wed Aug 29, 2018 3:05 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:The Nets better be packaging those picks and moving up. Anything else is nonsense.

It's hard to make significant moves up the board, especially if Denver's pick is #25 like Pelton projects.

Post #153 » by **NyCeEvO** » Wed Aug 29, 2018 3:39 pm

I gotta admit...I'd love to see what Zion's max potential is with a development coach like Kenny.

If he could be a modern day Charles Barkley, :droop:

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FrenchNBAFan · Post #154 » by **FrenchNBAFan** » Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:04 pm

I was one of these guys who said we shouldn't tank in order to attract free agent like Butler, Kahwi ... But the last days I have been interested in this draft and my opinion has changed. There are some talents at the position we need ( SG/SF ) we need to be in the top 5 to be SURE to have RJ Barrett / Doumbouya / Williamson / Nassir Little / Reddish. One of them.
It's so risky to lost the opportunity to have a talent like one of them for 20% chance to have a superstar at free agency

MrDollarBills · Post #155 » by **MrDollarBills** » Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:50 pm

TheNetsFan wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:The Nets better be packaging those picks and moving up. Anything else is nonsense.

It's hard to make significant moves up the board, especially if Denver's pick is #25 like Pelton projects.

Marks will need to get fancy again and figure out how to do that because we cannot afford to walk away from that draft without an elite prospect.

shakendfries · Post #156 » by **shakendfries** » Wed Aug 29, 2018 6:31 pm

shakendfries wrote:

Watch on YouTube

Scouting Report via The Stepien
Spoiler:
STRENGTHS

VERSATILITY:
- Plays PG for his HS and AAU team and handled ball handling duties for US u19 team as well. Not amazing vision but his handle allows him to make plays for others and himself. Able to bring the ball up even against pressure.
- Very fluid and coordinated, doesn’t look out of place at any position 1-4. Will find open man, comfortable making pass off dribble, keeps his head up, likes to draw and kick
- Shot selection needs work but he has excellent range on his 3 point shoot, already comfortable from NBA range. Quick release.
- Gets low to the ground with his handle, flexible, has serious moves off the dribble. Live dribble counters, can stop on a dime and pull up or use size and craft to get all the way. Handle doesn’t slow him down at all, in open court situation, his top speed is pretty good.
- When feet are set and he goes up with balance he is a knockdown shooter. Low 3pt percentages seem to be more a product of role and shot selection. Hand down, man down from out to 30 feet, can really provide great spacing in modern game.

PHYSICAL TOOLS:
- 6’7 with 7’1 wing span, in one AAU game defended Marvin Bagley and the opposing team’s PG about half the time each. Battled Bagley for post position, good job of denial.
- Excellent anticipation and timing to go along with length, absolutely a terror in foul court press, traps and passing lanes.
- His wingspan and size even allows him to be a threat as a rim protector. Good rebounder as well.
- Not huge but solid frame, can play some small ball 4, does well with contact, fights for rebounds, can post up, understands positioning.
- All-NBA defensive potential, super versatile but active with quick hands as well. Length allows him to cover huge distance.

WEAKNESSES

AVERAGE BURST/EXPLOSIVENESS:
-Not explosive finisher, gets to the basket with handle and skill more than athletic ability. Doesn’t really get up as much as you’d expect with his length, struggles to finish in tight spaces and over length.
-Just average first step, his tendency to settle for jumpers is partly explained by inability to beat guys to spots, just average quickness. More fluid/smooth than quick twitch.

SHOT SELECTION/DECISION MAKING:
-Loves pull up 3s, took more 3 pointers than anyone else in EYBL this season but shot less than 30%. Serious tendency to take zero pass pull up 3s, about 5 per game
-Often has poor balance on pull ups, tends to lean or fade instead of going straight up.
-Still learning how to run PnR, not too many advanced reads
-Not always aggressive, some have questioned his motor but I think may have to do with just overall approach/mentality. Avoids contact.

OVERALL
Super versatile forward with elite defensive potential but does he have the first step, explosiveness and decision making to be a primary option offensively?

Read on Twitter

Watch on YouTube

Paradise · Post #157 » by **Paradise** » Wed Aug 29, 2018 6:31 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:The Nets better be packaging those picks and moving up. Anything else is nonsense.

Daniel Gafford is no Zion but a frontcourt between him and Jarrett Allen would be us scary defensively and athletically in the future. He’s going to be a beast.

Watch on YouTube

Papi_swav · Post #158 » by **Papi_swav** » Wed Aug 29, 2018 7:45 pm

JoseRizal wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
JoseRizal wrote:Zion is “The pick” for me! You can never go wrong with natural physical gifts coupled with an elite developmental coach & staff.

OTOH, it’s so refreshing to finally read discussions on top tier prospects as opposed to end of the round picks we’re left off since 2015...

Isn't it refreshing? Like we actually have a shot at any one of these guys. I'm so pumped

This early, I’m already plotting my vacation leave for Draft Night...

Respect the tank.

shakendfries · Post #159 » by **shakendfries** » Wed Aug 29, 2018 9:37 pm

Paradise wrote:

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Jonathan Giovony's 2019 Mock

Spoiler:

Prokorov · Post #160 » by **Prokorov** » Thu Aug 30, 2018 1:57 am

MrDollarBills wrote:The Nets better be packaging those picks and moving up. Anything else is nonsense.

there has to be someone willing to move down. #20-25 might not be able to move us up even 1 spot.