2017 Nets Offseason Thread II

[NyCeEvO]

Reddict is too expensive and his defense also below standard. We already traded Russell which with no defense , if we trade another sg with no defense ,the team will suck again next season. Net's problem is all about defense last season.

Now Mozgoz"s defense is not good , rebound not good. Lin's defense was great before injury, but after injury he was not great again. And after i saw the highlight of Russell"s defense, i am worrying about our defense next season.

Lin was one of the best defenders on the team last year.

i think Lin was the best defender on the team and one of the best defensive guards in the league before injury. After injury , his speed was obviously drop and his defensive ability was affected.

Hamstring injuries take a long time to recover from. I think Lin will get back to his pre-injury level of defense but we need to be patient. Now that it's the offseason, he has more time to rehab it properly without trying to rush being back on the court.

[NyCeEvO]

Story from ND and quotes from Sean marks:

https://www.netsdaily.com/2017/6/27/15879146/marks-hints-at-other-salary-dumps-other-moves

Yes, the entire article is worth a read. Here are some key things I saw:

And he told NetsDaily, there may be other, similar dumps out there for the Nets in the course of free agency which revs up this weekend.

“We all know the contracts that are around the league that teams may want to get off of, may need to get off of,” said Marks. “And how do we prepare ourselves, position ourselves for those.

“You position yourself for opportunities that may happen. Not only this one. There's plenty of these opportunities around the league. who knows what's going to happen in the next three weeks. We don't know,” he continued. “So I think it's us being strategic, being patient and hopefully capitalizing when we have the opportunity to do so.”

Although many expected the Nets to buy a second round pick with their $3.4 million in cash considerations, they ended the draft with that money intact. Could they use it this week to make a deal that would give them additional cap room?

“Yeah, I think that goes into having the flexibility again,” he said. “We just don’t want to buy a pick for the sake of buying a pick or trade a player for the sake of trading a player. If we believe as a group that this is the best direction for the franchise, we would have done it. They guys we wanted were already taken, weren't on the board and that's why we didn't do that. “

Marks was non-committal on going after RFA’s although others have reported Nets interest in Otto Porter, the Wizards small forward, or Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, the Pistons free agent. The Nets could also go after players like Joe Ingles of the Jazz and Kelly Olynyk of the Celtics.

“We're going to keep all our things in our back pocket and we'll see what happens,” he said, “whether it's restricted free agents, free agency or whether it's capitalizing on some other trades that come up. We're focused on all of those things. We're not going to limit ourselves to one.”

1) He's not banking on one method (e.g. winning a RFA) to solve our problems. Cap space and thus flexibility will be important in many ways.

2) As some of us have already discussed, Marks may definitely try to trade a player and cash for an NGC by Thursday evening to get us more cap space.

[Born_Ready]

JJ Redick's jump shot is beyond a thing of beauty. As a closet Duke basketball fan I have always admired his ability to shoot the ball.

With that said, his past injuries and his price tag are a little scarce for me. He would be a great addition for the young corps of Nets, but at what cost is the organization willing to make such a move. Who's minuets would he eat up? Of course I wouldn't sour at the move because it's not my money to spend and I would rather him be on the Nets than Philadelphia.

[Claud]

JJ is a good vet and deadly shooter but at 18-20m that's a hard pass. We have a bunch of talented guards already... we need to focus on SF-PF/C positions.

[MrDollarBills]

What if I told you the Nets would land a top 3 pick for Brook Lopez?



What if I told you the Trailblazers will dump Allen Crabbe to the Nets for Skil & Booker?

What if I told you that the mentorship of Russel & LeVert by Lin & Reddick will work out a lot better than the over-hyped 76ers rookies toiling about?

What if I told you the Nets would still have enough cap flexibility to sign Joe Ingles?

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What if I told you the Panda's friend, is actually Morpheous???

Allen Crabbe better come with a 2018 pick, otherwise I'm taking the blue pill and going to enjoy a nice steak dinner

[MrDollarBills]

Story from ND and quotes from Sean marks:

https://www.netsdaily.com/2017/6/27/15879146/marks-hints-at-other-salary-dumps-other-moves

Yes, the entire article is worth a read. Here are some key things I saw:

And he told NetsDaily, there may be other, similar dumps out there for the Nets in the course of free agency which revs up this weekend.

“We all know the contracts that are around the league that teams may want to get off of, may need to get off of,” said Marks. “And how do we prepare ourselves, position ourselves for those.

“You position yourself for opportunities that may happen. Not only this one. There's plenty of these opportunities around the league. who knows what's going to happen in the next three weeks. We don't know,” he continued. “So I think it's us being strategic, being patient and hopefully capitalizing when we have the opportunity to do so.”

Although many expected the Nets to buy a second round pick with their $3.4 million in cash considerations, they ended the draft with that money intact. Could they use it this week to make a deal that would give them additional cap room?

“Yeah, I think that goes into having the flexibility again,” he said. “We just don’t want to buy a pick for the sake of buying a pick or trade a player for the sake of trading a player. If we believe as a group that this is the best direction for the franchise, we would have done it. They guys we wanted were already taken, weren't on the board and that's why we didn't do that. “

Marks was non-committal on going after RFA’s although others have reported Nets interest in Otto Porter, the Wizards small forward, or Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, the Pistons free agent. The Nets could also go after players like Joe Ingles of the Jazz and Kelly Olynyk of the Celtics.

“We're going to keep all our things in our back pocket and we'll see what happens,” he said, “whether it's restricted free agents, free agency or whether it's capitalizing on some other trades that come up. We're focused on all of those things. We're not going to limit ourselves to one.”

1) He's not banking on one method (e.g. winning a RFA) to solve our problems. Cap space and thus flexibility will be important in many ways.

2) As some of us have already discussed, Marks may definitely try to trade a player and cash for an NGC by Thursday evening to get us more cap space.

It is so nice to have an adult in charge of this franchise.

My enthusiasm is intensifying

[13th Man]

Redick is also old, why pick up a 33 year old when the Nets are not in a win now position? I'd go with a young PF with skills like a Mirotic who could stretch out the court especially if Mozgov will be clogging up the lane.

[NyCeEvO]

What if I told you the Nets would land a top 3 pick for Brook Lopez?



What if I told you the Trailblazers will dump Allen Crabbe to the Nets for Skil & Booker?

What if I told you that the mentorship of Russel & LeVert by Lin & Reddick will work out a lot better than the over-hyped 76ers rookies toiling about?

What if I told you the Nets would still have enough cap flexibility to sign Joe Ingles?

Read on Twitter

What if I told you the Panda's friend, is actually Morpheous???

Allen Crabbe better come with a 2018 pick, otherwise I'm taking the blue pill and going to enjoy a nice steak dinner

YES!

[Paradise]

Redick is also old, why pick up a 33 year old when the Nets are not in a win now position? I'd go with a young PF with skills like a Mirotic who could stretch out the court especially if Mozgov will be clogging up the lane.

Because we need veterans here. It's the same reason the Timberwolves will offer a deal to Lowry and the same reason why the Suns signed Chandler to a deal. Mirotic would nice but his defense is terrible and doesn't do anything well outside of scoring.



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[Ror1997]

Any potential salary dump with the blazers isn't coming until later in the summer. Teams who're intending to cut salary because its too high rather than trying to create room have to rush to make a deal.

[Ror1997]

If we dump booker, I want Zach Randolph replacing him. Perfect vet for us.

[13th Man]

Redick is also old, why pick up a 33 year old when the Nets are not in a win now position? I'd go with a young PF with skills like a Mirotic who could stretch out the court especially if Mozgov will be clogging up the lane.

Because we need veterans here. It's the same reason the Timberwolves will offer a deal to Lowry and the same reason why the Suns signed Chandler to a deal. Mirotic would nice but his defense is terrible and doesn't do anything well outside of scoring.



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The Wolves and Suns are much more advanced imo. We already have a plethora of guards, was thinking a stretch big would be more useful with Mozgov being a good defender but doesn't offer up much offense.

[TinmanZBoy]

Redick is also old, why pick up a 33 year old when the Nets are not in a win now position? I'd go with a young PF with skills like a Mirotic who could stretch out the court especially if Mozgov will be clogging up the lane.

Because we need veterans here. It's the same reason the Timberwolves will offer a deal to Lowry and the same reason why the Suns signed Chandler to a deal. Mirotic would nice but his defense is terrible and doesn't do anything well outside of scoring.



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I can see a 2 year contract for JJ with 20m/year,

[Paradise]

Redick is also old, why pick up a 33 year old when the Nets are not in a win now position? I'd go with a young PF with skills like a Mirotic who could stretch out the court especially if Mozgov will be clogging up the lane.

Because we need veterans here. It's the same reason the Timberwolves will offer a deal to Lowry and the same reason why the Suns signed Chandler to a deal. Mirotic would nice but his defense is terrible and doesn't do anything well outside of scoring.



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The Wolves and Suns are much more advanced imo. We already have a plethora of guards, was thinking a stretch big would be more useful with Mozgov being a good defender but doesn't offer up much offense.

We can always find bigs. Finding sharpshooting is a lot harder. There's a short list of guys who shoot near a 45% from three.

1. Redick
2. Ingles
3. Crabbe


Btw, I have a gut feeling we will land Tyson Chandler from Phoenix in a salary dump deal.

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[Ror1997]

I want a either a future first or Bender in a deal for Chandler.

[shakendfries]

I want a either a future first or Bender in a deal for Chandler.

I'd take the future first (double entendre)

[Rockice_24]

My wish list is short. Go all in for Porter and use Green as a fall back option. If we land neither no big deal just use Hamilton and Booker and that cash as trade bait for another salary dump. Maybe PHX will throw in a 2018 pick for eating some bad contracts like Chandler and/or Knight. That way they can go for a max contract to pair with Bledsoe, Booker, Jackson and Chriss

1. Porter (just a perfect fit at SF both offensively and defensively. Would give us a bright future on the perimeter as he keeps Levert at SG and lets RHJ develop at PF.)
2. JaMychal Green (another perfect fit as that SF/PF spot. This would allow RHJ match up with the better wing defensively as Green he can guard both SF and PF. His shooting ability fits with RHJ offensively as a floor spacer.)

2018 Future lineup
D-Lo
Levert
Porter
RHJ
Allen

or

D-Lo
Levert
RHJ
Green
Allen

[Karate Diop]

Assuming Porter isn't an option, I'd be okay taking a stab at Shabazz Muhammad or Tony Snell.

Neither is a true game changer, but they've both got chances to be serviceable starters and there's some untapped upside that could cause them to outperform their contract (and become bigger trade assets down the road).

[imanshar]

My wish list is short. Go all in for Porter and use Green as a fall back option. If we land neither no big deal just use Hamilton and Booker and that cash as trade bait for another salary dump. Maybe PHX will throw in a 2018 pick for eating some bad contracts like Chandler and/or Knight. That way they can go for a max contract to pair with Bledsoe, Booker, Jackson and Chriss

1. Porter (just a perfect fit at SF both offensively and defensively. Would give us a bright future on the perimeter as he keeps Levert at SG and lets RHJ develop at PF.)
2. JaMychal Green (another perfect fit as that SF/PF spot. This would allow RHJ match up with the better wing defensively as Green he can guard both SF and PF. His shooting ability fits with RHJ offensively as a floor spacer.)

2018 Future lineup
D-Lo
Levert
Porter
RHJ
Allen

or

D-Lo
Levert
RHJ
Green
Allen

Stop excluding Lin from starting lineup. There is no way they bench Jeremy Lin. Yeah, I get it, he is probably not part of this team future but you think Atkinson will bench Lin? He even started Foye last year ahead of all the young players. I bet my life Lin will be the starter of this team until he either is traded or leave in free agency.

[Rockice_24]

My wish list is short. Go all in for Porter and use Green as a fall back option. If we land neither no big deal just use Hamilton and Booker and that cash as trade bait for another salary dump. Maybe PHX will throw in a 2018 pick for eating some bad contracts like Chandler and/or Knight. That way they can go for a max contract to pair with Bledsoe, Booker, Jackson and Chriss

1. Porter (just a perfect fit at SF both offensively and defensively. Would give us a bright future on the perimeter as he keeps Levert at SG and lets RHJ develop at PF.)
2. JaMychal Green (another perfect fit as that SF/PF spot. This would allow RHJ match up with the better wing defensively as Green he can guard both SF and PF. His shooting ability fits with RHJ offensively as a floor spacer.)

2018 Future lineup
D-Lo
Levert
Porter
RHJ
Allen

or

D-Lo
Levert
RHJ
Green
Allen

Stop excluding Lin from starting lineup. There is no way they bench Jeremy Lin. Yeah, I get it, he is probably not part of this team future but you think Atkinson will bench Lin? He even started Foye last year ahead of all the young players. I bet my life Lin will be the starter of this team until he either is traded or leave in free agency.

Guess you failed to read the 2018 future lineup part. Lin is likely gone after this year so that was more the future for 2018-19.

I think Levert will come off the bench if we bring in a starting SF this offseason so you can relax now.

for 2017 it would be
Lin
D-Lo
Porter (for example)
RHJ
Moz

in 2018 hopefully it's
D-Lo
Levert
Porter
RHJ
Allen