Official Current Affairs & Politics Thread II

[MrDollarBills]

Menendez won and Jersey flipped 3 seats with a slight chance of flipping a 4th.

Leonard Lance LOST and I laughed loudly when I saw that result **** him!!

[Rich Rane]

Based off of the data that I'm seeing the Democrats won control of The House of Representatives tonight. Over 100 women voted into the House!! that stat alone should have Trump sweating tomorrow morning on the toilet as he rage tweets

With control of the house comes subpoena power and investigations that come with criminal referrals.

Criminal referrals that will go to the FBI and also the Special Counsel's office.

And the midterms are now over. Mueller's team was adhering to Justice Department protocols to not make overt movements during an election period (something that James Comey **** ed up during the 2016 election). The indictments will resume.

Today is November 7th. It won't be long before the next Congress is sworn in and Rep. (we call her Auntie) Maxine Waters issues a subpoena to the IRS for Donald Trump's tax returns. Rep. Adam Schiff will now head the House Intel Committee. This is the part of the story where all the dirt comes pouring out.

And don't sweat Beto and Gillum losing. Those are dumb racist ass states that they were campaigning in. The fact that they lost by a percentage is proof enough that times are changing quickly, lots of ignorant racist people will die between now and 2020. They showed enough to me that they should toss their hats in the ring on the national level for Dem nomination in the primaries.

I'll say this for Beto, he played a big part in 12 Texas House seats flipping blue. Keep running strong candidates in Texas.

[MrDollarBills]

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No Nancy. Absolutely not. Bipartisanship is dead. You cannot negotiate with these animals. She is bat **** crazy if she believes this.

She should not be Speaker of the House if this is her approach. She did the same damn thing when the Dems won the midterms during the Bush Administration and it led to voter apathy because she refused to go after GW.

Until the GOP disavows the stink of Nazism from their ranks we need to shove them in the **** ing corner.

Work on healing divisions after Trump is out of office. Not a moment before.

I'm tired of her and Schumer. Seriously. People are dying over this ****.

[shakendfries]

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No Nancy. Absolutely not. Bipartisanship is dead. You cannot negotiate with these animals. She is bat **** crazy if she believes this.

She should not be Speaker of the House if this is her approach. She did the same damn thing when the Dems won the midterms during the Bush Administration and it led to voter apathy because she refused to go after GW.

Until the GOP disavows the stink of Nazism from their ranks we need to shove them in the **** ing corner.

Work on healing divisions after Trump is out of office. Not a moment before.

I'm tired of her and Schumer. Seriously. People are dying over this ****.

dens need to realize the egalitarian approach needs to stop. you don't go against an extremist with a moderate platform. you don't confront a bully with chocolate and roses. this approach doesn't inspire voters

[Rich Rane]

Just an update for NJ-03, (D) Andy Kim is down over 2,000 votes against incumbent (R) Tom MacArthur. No mail-in ballots have been counted for Burlington County yet.

www.co.burlington.nj.us/DocumentCenter/View/3942/General-Election

Kim is currently winning Burlington by 19 points. Still hope there. Slight possibility that NJ could only be sending 1 Republican to the House (NJ-04, Monmouth, Ocean, and Mercer counties).

[MrDollarBills]

SURPRISE SURPRISE.

And I want to smack the **** out of the 16% of Black men who voted for Cruz. Kanye West has made being a minstrel show performer mainstream apparently.

Every voting demographic breakdown in these races show me that the only group in the United States with complete common sense are Black women.

[MrDollarBills]

Just an update for NJ-03, (D) Andy Kim is down over 2,000 votes against incumbent (R) Tom MacArthur. No mail-in ballots have been counted for Burlington County yet.

www.co.burlington.nj.us/DocumentCenter/View/3942/General-Election

Kim is currently winning Burlington by 19 points. Still hope there. Slight possibility that NJ could only be sending 1 Republican to the House (NJ-04, Monmouth, Ocean, and Mercer counties).

*fingers crossed*

[MrDollarBills]

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No Nancy. Absolutely not. Bipartisanship is dead. You cannot negotiate with these animals. She is bat **** crazy if she believes this.

She should not be Speaker of the House if this is her approach. She did the same damn thing when the Dems won the midterms during the Bush Administration and it led to voter apathy because she refused to go after GW.

Until the GOP disavows the stink of Nazism from their ranks we need to shove them in the **** ing corner.

Work on healing divisions after Trump is out of office. Not a moment before.

I'm tired of her and Schumer. Seriously. People are dying over this ****.

dens need to realize the egalitarian approach needs to stop. you don't go against an extremist with a moderate platform. you don't confront a bully with chocolate and roses. this approach doesn't inspire voters

History has proven that Moderation and egalitarianism doesn't defeat fascists, nazis, and authoritarians. Blunt objects, bullets and bull ropes fashioned into nooses do.

However, I will settle for investigations, subpoenas, testimony under oath, and criminal referrals.

[MrDollarBills]

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I smell fear.

Rep. Waters will remember your racist comments about her intelligence when she gets her hands on your tax returns, bitch

[Roy Tarpley]

Just an update for NJ-03, (D) Andy Kim is down over 2,000 votes against incumbent (R) Tom MacArthur. No mail-in ballots have been counted for Burlington County yet.

www.co.burlington.nj.us/DocumentCenter/View/3942/General-Election

Kim is currently winning Burlington by 19 points. Still hope there. Slight possibility that NJ could only be sending 1 Republican to the House (NJ-04, Monmouth, Ocean, and Mercer counties).

*fingers crossed*

I read there were over 20,000 mail-in ballots in Burlington County in 2016 so if there were similar numbers this year, then a 59% to 40% ratio for Kim to MacArthur would be 11,800 to 8,000 or a difference of 3,800. Kim is down about 2,300 right now. I hope my back of the envelope calculations are close.

[MrDollarBills]

Just an update for NJ-03, (D) Andy Kim is down over 2,000 votes against incumbent (R) Tom MacArthur. No mail-in ballots have been counted for Burlington County yet.

www.co.burlington.nj.us/DocumentCenter/View/3942/General-Election

Kim is currently winning Burlington by 19 points. Still hope there. Slight possibility that NJ could only be sending 1 Republican to the House (NJ-04, Monmouth, Ocean, and Mercer counties).

*fingers crossed*

I read there were over 20,000 mail-in ballots in Burlington County in 2016 so if there were similar numbers this year, then a 59% to 40% ratio for Kim to MacArthur would be 11,800 to 8,000 or a difference of 3,800. Kim is down about 2,300 right now. I hope my back of the envelope calculations are close.

Right now its 2,315 votes. Come on mail in voters we need Andy Kim in Congress

[MrDollarBills]

Baby Boomers and Gen Xers

[TheNetsFan]

Baby Boomers and Gen Xers

It's an age thing, not a generation thing. The Boomers were once arguably one of the most liberal generations ever. Circumstances & priorities evolve with age. 15-20 years from now, as Millenials age into those ranges, the splits will remain about the same, and the next generation will be disgusted with the Millenials & Gen X. There have been numerous quotes describing that phenomenon dating back until at least the 1800s, and it's not just a US thing.

Winston S. Churchill supposedly once observed that anyone who was not a liberal at 20 years of age had no heart, while anyone who was still a liberal at 40 had no head.

https://quoteinvestigator.com/2014/02/24/heart-head/

The cycle hasn't changed, just the incendiary ratings whoring rhetoric from media & politicians on both sides has. Most of the country is comprised of varying shades of purple, but rational thought and compromise doesn't get hits, but it's easier to campaign and cover the extremes.

[Rich Rane]

Sessions has stepped down at Trump's request (aka fired).

[MrDollarBills]

Baby Boomers and Gen Xers

It's an age thing, not a generation thing. The Boomers were once arguably one of the most liberal generations ever. Circumstances & priorities evolve with age. 15-20 years from now, as Millenials age into those ranges, the splits will remain about the same, and the next generation will be disgusted with the Millenials & Gen X. There have been numerous quotes describing that phenomenon dating back until at least the 1800s, and it's not just a US thing.

Winston S. Churchill supposedly once observed that anyone who was not a liberal at 20 years of age had no heart, while anyone who was still a liberal at 40 had no head.

https://quoteinvestigator.com/2014/02/24/heart-head/

The cycle hasn't changed, just the incendiary ratings whoring rhetoric from media & politicians on both sides has. Most of the country is comprised of varying shades of purple, but rational thought and compromise doesn't get hits, but it's easier to campaign and cover the extremes.

I disagree with you regarding age. Life priorities change for sure as you get older, but that really doesn't prove your assertion that an extreme political ideological shift from liberalism to conservatism is an age thing especially since Black and Latino voters over age 65 (BOOMERS) voted overwhelmingly against the GOP. Compare that to the White Boomers who are heavily divided in that category. How do you explain such a disparity between Boomers of Color and their White counterparts?

The years change everyone, I'm not the same person in my 30s as I was in my early to mid 20s (thank god). It's one thing to mature and not do or believe in the same things that you did in your 20s. It's another thing for your core political and moral beliefs to shift so sharply that by the time you're age 65, you are routinely inclined to vote against your own self interests the older you get, which an overwhelming number of White baby boomers are doing when they vote for the party that wants to make healthcare inaccessible, less affordable, and end social security benefits. The % of White Boomers who are wealthy enough to be able to live in a country where they can afford health care costs and can live without social security and medicare is fairly small. So how do you explain the voting behavior of the rest of them?

I mean I know the answer here, but I just wanted to point out that aging has nothing to do with it in terms of voting behavior. I mean, unless your assertion is that White voters are the only ones who shift more towards the right politically as they get older, which I find very hard to believe (I also don't think that is your assertion), it doesn't explain the gap between voting groups age 65-up.

Also, I should add that Black/Latinos are actually pretty conservative when you look at how many people within the communities are Christian and Muslim. The only reason these communities don't vote for Republicans is because of their harmful policies and oh yeah, the whole dog whistling to Nazis that they've been doing since the end of the sixties.

[MrDollarBills]

Sessions has stepped down at Trump's request (aka fired).

The wording "at your request" in Sessions' resignation letter will be something that rears its head again in the future, I predict. As in evidence of obstruction of justice

Welcome to the Constitutional Crisis everyone. People who were hand wringing over the Democrats not taking a full sweep in yesterday's election better be grateful that the House is under Dem control. This would be a lot worse had the GOP held on to both chambers. I'm not concerned because no matter what he does now it can all be undone in two months.

Now to see what happens between now and January. The "Temporary Attorney General" is already being called to recuse himself over this:

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this is some Banana Republic bull ****

[TheNetsFan]

Baby Boomers and Gen Xers

It's an age thing, not a generation thing. The Boomers were once arguably one of the most liberal generations ever. Circumstances & priorities evolve with age. 15-20 years from now, as Millenials age into those ranges, the splits will remain about the same, and the next generation will be disgusted with the Millenials & Gen X. There have been numerous quotes describing that phenomenon dating back until at least the 1800s, and it's not just a US thing.

Winston S. Churchill supposedly once observed that anyone who was not a liberal at 20 years of age had no heart, while anyone who was still a liberal at 40 had no head.

https://quoteinvestigator.com/2014/02/24/heart-head/

The cycle hasn't changed, just the incendiary ratings whoring rhetoric from media & politicians on both sides has. Most of the country is comprised of varying shades of purple, but rational thought and compromise doesn't get hits, but it's easier to campaign and cover the extremes.

I disagree with you regarding age. Life priorities change for sure as you get older, but that really doesn't prove your assertion that an extreme political ideological shift from liberalism to conservatism is an age thing especially since Black and Latino voters over age 65 (BOOMERS) voted overwhelmingly against the GOP. Compare that to the White Boomers who are heavily divided in that category. How do you explain such a disparity between Boomers of Color and their White counterparts?

The years change everyone, I'm not the same person in my 30s as I was in my early to mid 20s (thank god). It's one thing to mature and not do or believe in the same things that you did in your 20s. It's another thing for your core political and moral beliefs to shift so sharply that by the time you're age 65, you are routinely inclined to vote against your own self interests the older you get, which an overwhelming number of White baby boomers are doing when they vote for the party that wants to make healthcare inaccessible, less affordable, and end social security benefits. The % of White Boomers who are wealthy enough to be able to live in a country where they can afford health care costs and can live without social security and medicare is fairly small. So how do you explain the voting behavior of the rest of them?

I mean I know the answer here, but I just wanted to point out that aging has nothing to do with it in terms of voting behavior. I mean, unless your assertion is that White voters are the only ones who shift more towards the right politically as they get older, which I find very hard to believe (I also don't think that is your assertion), it doesn't explain the gap between voting groups age 65-up.

Also, I should add that Black/Latinos are actually pretty conservative when you look at how many people within the communities are Christian and Muslim. The only reason these communities don't vote for Republicans is because of their harmful policies and oh yeah, the whole dog whistling to Nazis that they've been doing since the end of the sixties.

Across all races, the percentage of conservative votes increased throughout working age until retirement age when it plateaus and/or shifts slightly negative. The baseline is just lower among the other races, but the progression is still there. If anything, it's most pronounced among Latinos: 17%->26%->35%-24%. I don't know all of the historic numbers, but I recall G. W. Bush did well with the Latino community. In a post-Trump future, I'd expect a similar progression among Latinos, but with a higher conservative baseline, one which that 45-64 year old demographic approaches the high 40s.

[MrDollarBills]

GW did pretty well with Latino voters.

the small progression is there, you're right.... but why is the baseline lower for everyone else? and why are White boomer voters so starkly divided while the other groups are not?

[Rich Rane]

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[Roy Tarpley]

F**K MacArthur