Around the NBA, 2018-19 Season thread

[MrDollarBills]

Pay attention to that Wizards situation down there in DC yall. They are playing like straight up trash, I bet against them against the spread twice now in their last two games and came out on top because they are an absolute mess, the Clippers blew them out by 32 points last night and they are giving up 125 points a night.

It wouldn't shock me if they blow that whole thing up if this continues on into mid to late November.

[Claud]

Pay attention to that Wizards situation down there in DC yall. They are playing like straight up trash, I bet against them against the spread twice now in their last two games and came out on top because they are an absolute mess, the Clippers blew them out by 32 points last night and they are giving up 125 points a night.

It wouldn't shock me if they blow that whole thing up if this continues on into mid to late November.

Must keep tabs on Otto then. Similar to Crabbe, could the Marksman go back for Otto to fill our stretch 4 need to replace Dudley?

That contract is disgusting, I'd personally pass. We need to preserve cap for difference makers. Otto helps a need but at a very steep price. Not sure worth it.

[Paradise]

Obviously really early in the season but it's nice to see Brook Lopez playing well on a very good team. Kenny and the staff deserve a ton of credit for the evolution of Brook's game. He's finally on a team thats good enough to just let him play to his strengths.

Kenny saved that man’s career.

[shakendfries]

Pay attention to that Wizards situation down there in DC yall. They are playing like straight up trash, I bet against them against the spread twice now in their last two games and came out on top because they are an absolute mess, the Clippers blew them out by 32 points last night and they are giving up 125 points a night.

It wouldn't shock me if they blow that whole thing up if this continues on into mid to late November.

Must keep tabs on Otto then. Similar to Crabbe, could the Marksman go back for Otto to fill our stretch 4 need to replace Dudley?

That contract is disgusting, I'd personally pass. We need to preserve cap for difference makers. Otto helps a need but at a very steep price. Not sure worth it.

Otto Porter for Faried, Carroll, & a future 2nd?

[MrDollarBills]

I dunno if I would trade for Porter even though he would be a perfect fit on this team

we seriously need a difference maker.

[MrDollarBills]

NBA Players only night is great. If you have NBA TV Lakers and Wolves are balling out right now.

[bud29]

Klay was 14-24 from deep, which sets the new NBA mark for most 3s in a game. He made more 3s tonight than Larry Bird made in the entire '81-'82 season.

All this on the second game of a back to back. GS scored 149 points.

[Prokorov]

Pay attention to that Wizards situation down there in DC yall. They are playing like straight up trash, I bet against them against the spread twice now in their last two games and came out on top because they are an absolute mess, the Clippers blew them out by 32 points last night and they are giving up 125 points a night.

It wouldn't shock me if they blow that whole thing up if this continues on into mid to late November.

Must keep tabs on Otto then. Similar to Crabbe, could the Marksman go back for Otto to fill our stretch 4 need to replace Dudley?

That contract is disgusting, I'd personally pass. We need to preserve cap for difference makers. Otto helps a need but at a very steep price. Not sure worth it.

Otto Porter for Faried, Carroll, & a future 2nd?

i would also need an unprotected first from them. porter has one of the leagues absolute worst contracts and takes away most of our cap space and like crabbe is just a role player

[TheNetsFan]

Pay attention to that Wizards situation down there in DC yall. They are playing like straight up trash, I bet against them against the spread twice now in their last two games and came out on top because they are an absolute mess, the Clippers blew them out by 32 points last night and they are giving up 125 points a night.

It wouldn't shock me if they blow that whole thing up if this continues on into mid to late November.

Must keep tabs on Otto then. Similar to Crabbe, could the Marksman go back for Otto to fill our stretch 4 need to replace Dudley?

That contract is disgusting, I'd personally pass. We need to preserve cap for difference makers. Otto helps a need but at a very steep price. Not sure worth it.

Otto Porter for Faried, Carroll, & a future 2nd?

In any deal for an expensive player from a team looking to shake things up, you insist on sending Crabbe back. If it gets bad enough for Washington, you pull off a Nicholson for Crabbe style trade, where you get the better player & Washington saves $37mil plus taxes.

[shakendfries]

Is there a way we could get Otto and preserve space for a maxim superstar player who's name rhymes with Devin Kurant?

[Papi_swav]

If we trade for Porter , Crabbe has to go back. I really rather not though. I'm not sure sure why the Wizards are not that good, IDK if it's the coach or Wall and Beal doesn't fit, ti's either of the 2. If I was them I would try hard to get rid of Wall and that contract.

[shakendfries]

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"I think you might have to get creative on something. Maybe someone really loves the efficiency of Otto Porter and you can put together some exotic trade that allows you to get better that way. It's hard - because Otto is such a solid player - provided that his body is ok, I still think there is value in him around the league. Maybe there's a way you can get something more out of that $26-27m."
-Jerry Brewer
Washington Post Sports Columnist

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Otto Porter & a protected 1st for Crabbe & spare change

[TheNetsFan]

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"I think you might have to get creative on something. Maybe someone really loves the efficiency of Otto Porter and you can put together some exotic trade that allows you to get better that way. It's hard - because Otto is such a solid player - provided that his body is ok, I still think there is value in him around the league. Maybe there's a way you can get something more out of that $26-27m."
-Jerry Brewer
Washington Post Sports Columnist

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Otto Porter & a protected 1st for Crabbe & spare change

They're not giving a pick to dump Porter. If you're lucky, it's something like Crabbe+RHJ for Porter or Crabbe+Dudley for Porter+Smith.

[MrDollarBills]

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"I think you might have to get creative on something. Maybe someone really loves the efficiency of Otto Porter and you can put together some exotic trade that allows you to get better that way. It's hard - because Otto is such a solid player - provided that his body is ok, I still think there is value in him around the league. Maybe there's a way you can get something more out of that $26-27m."
-Jerry Brewer
Washington Post Sports Columnist

Spoiler:

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Otto Porter & a protected 1st for Crabbe & spare change

They're not giving a pick to dump Porter. If you're lucky, it's something like Crabbe+RHJ for Porter or Crabbe+Dudley for Porter+Smith.

Then they can sit there and pay the luxury tax for a team that has max contracts at the top of the roster while getting their asses kicked every night. They need to blow that team up and quickly.

[TheNetsFan]

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Otto Porter & a protected 1st for Crabbe & spare change

They're not giving a pick to dump Porter. If you're lucky, it's something like Crabbe+RHJ for Porter or Crabbe+Dudley for Porter+Smith.

Then they can sit there and pay the luxury tax for a team that has max contracts at the top of the roster while getting their asses kicked every night. They need to blow that team up and quickly.

Porter is valued around the league. They won't have to pay to unload him, and even if they dumped him for no salary in return, they still wouldn't have cap space to land anybody. They'll get something decent in return, while shedding a little bit of money in the process. e.g. lesser talent and less money and/or depth.

I would not be opposed to dealing for Porter, but would prefer to do it in the offseason after striking out in FA. In the context of what this offseason will be, i.e teams paying $25mil per year for guys like Harris & Middleton, $55mil over 2 years for Porter is a bargain.

[shakendfries]

They're not giving a pick to dump Porter. If you're lucky, it's something like Crabbe+RHJ for Porter or Crabbe+Dudley for Porter+Smith.

Then they can sit there and pay the luxury tax for a team that has max contracts at the top of the roster while getting their asses kicked every night. They need to blow that team up and quickly.

Porter is valued around the league. They won't have to pay to unload him, and even if they dumped him for no salary in return, they still wouldn't have cap space to land anybody. They'll get something decent in return, while shedding a little bit of money in the process. e.g. lesser talent and less money and/or depth.

I would not be opposed to dealing for Porter, but would prefer to do it in the offseason after striking out in FA. In the context of what this offseason will be, i.e teams paying $25mil per year for guys like Harris & Middleton, $55mil over 2 years for Porter is a bargain.

I'm not sure if we're fully aware of how nasty the offer sheet Marks signed Otto Porter to, but I believe there's a trade kicker among other stipulations that makes the contract pretty much un-tradeable to any team other than the Nets (unless Otto goes on a scoring tear and ups his value before the trade deadline).

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The Wizards are trash, over the luxury tax, and have to move on from Porter.

[DarkXaero]

They're not giving a pick to dump Porter. If you're lucky, it's something like Crabbe+RHJ for Porter or Crabbe+Dudley for Porter+Smith.

Then they can sit there and pay the luxury tax for a team that has max contracts at the top of the roster while getting their asses kicked every night. They need to blow that team up and quickly.

Porter is valued around the league. They won't have to pay to unload him, and even if they dumped him for no salary in return, they still wouldn't have cap space to land anybody. They'll get something decent in return, while shedding a little bit of money in the process. e.g. lesser talent and less money and/or depth.

I would not be opposed to dealing for Porter, but would prefer to do it in the offseason after striking out in FA. In the context of what this offseason will be, i.e teams paying $25mil per year for guys like Harris & Middleton, $55mil over 2 years for Porter is a bargain.

Both Harris & Middleton, especially Middleton, are much better than Porter. Porter is a good role player making $25 mill a year. Middleton is an all star caliber SF who scores 21 PPG super efficiently as the second option, while being a better all around player than Porter. I don't rate Tobias Harris that highly but he's also better than Porter. Giving those guys $25 mill/yr contracts next summer is much better than paying Porter $25 million for the next two years to be a more expensive Allen Crabbe.

[TheNetsFan]

Somebody on the Wizards' board summarized part of the Woj/Lowe pod. I think you guys are severely overrating the "negativity" of Porter's contract.

Woj: here’s a question, who do you think you can get back more for, which guard?

Lowe: Beal, it’s not even close. As soon as wall signed the super max that became true. I wrote this in one of my preview columns, teams should be sniffing around Brad Beal now. They should be talking illegally to his agent, they should be talking to the wizards, because if this thing breaks apart, John walls trade value is at an all time low because the super max kicks in next year and the numbers are almost literally eye popping. There are questions about his knees and his conditioning. Otto Porter’s fine, he’s a little overpaid, fine, he’s a good player, a lot of teams would be happy to have him. Beal is really really good and on a contract that is very fair and a position if high value in the nba.

Woj: if they could just develop, like if there was one guy, like if kelly Oubre really developed after Otto, you would’ve thought that Otto and one other pretty good young player could’ve got them a third star. Whether it be hypothetically a jimmy butler...

Lowe: they should be trying to get jimmy butler.

Woj: yeah I know.

Lowe: I actually thought that they would.

Woj: yeah I did too.

Beal & McCollum were always high on my likely trade target list. With LeVert's emergence, unless we plan to play him at SF (I wouldn't oppose that), I'm not sure they make that much sense. If we're willing to move LeVert to SF, then I'd add a lot of strong incentive to Crabbe to make a deal for Beal.

[MrDollarBills]

I would trade Den 1st and Crabbe or expiring salary for Bradley Beal. BKN 1st, Allen and LeVert are off of the table.

Crabbe to me doesn't have much value especially since his contract has a PO.

[TheNetsFan]

I would trade Den 1st and Crabbe or expiring salary for Bradley Beal. BKN 1st, Allen and LeVert are off of the table.

Crabbe to me doesn't have much value especially since his contract has a PO.

That's not even close to fair value. I'm not sure why people are so attached to our 1st this year.