Official 2019 Brooklyn Nets Offseason Thread

[Rockice_24]

KD is 100 times better than Melo stop it. Not only is Melo worse the Knicks had to trade their whole team away to acquire him.

Also Knicks were clearly tanking. They were fully capable of winning more games but we didn't play vets because we wanted to get the young guys experience. Not saying a playoff team but its pretty obvious they were tanking if you would see some Of Fizdales late game substitutions.

Where did I say Melo was better? It has nothing to do with who is better it's the same situation though. Melo and KD were both supposed to be superstars to help the Knicks win, once the winning didn't happen with Melo the fans hated him. Same thing will happen if KD doesn't win.

As for tanking yeah you played young guys I get that but these are the guys KD is supposed to play with and win with. These are the guys you are selling to him as teammates as complementary pieces around him and maybe Kyrie. Right now they are equivalent to the worst roster in the game, young or not, that is not a strong selling point to work with.

Are you suggesting he will goto the Nets?

I am suggesting the insane amount of pressure that comes with playing for the Knicks. The rewards are unmatched if he can win but the other end of the spectrum if he can't will be to get run out of town like Melo. For a guy that clearly can't handle criticism he better win and win soon.

As for where he signs I have no idea but playing for another franchise without all the pressure might be better for him. If I had to put my life savings on it I'd guess he signs with NY.

[iLLmatic860]

Where did I say Melo was better? It has nothing to do with who is better it's the same situation though. Melo and KD were both supposed to be superstars to help the Knicks win, once the winning didn't happen with Melo the fans hated him. Same thing will happen if KD doesn't win.

As for tanking yeah you played young guys I get that but these are the guys KD is supposed to play with and win with. These are the guys you are selling to him as teammates as complementary pieces around him and maybe Kyrie. Right now they are equivalent to the worst roster in the game, young or not, that is not a strong selling point to work with.

Are you suggesting he will goto the Nets?

I am suggesting the insane amount of pressure that comes with playing for the Knicks. The rewards are unmatched if he can win but the other end of the spectrum if he can't will be to get run out of town like Melo. For a guy that clearly can't handle criticism he better win and win soon.

As for where he signs I have no idea but playing for another franchise without all the pressure might be better for him. If I had to put my life savings on it I'd guess he signs with NY.

Hes chasing Lebron. This would be huge for his legacy. I understand what you saying but all the links Kd had to NyK are for a reason.

[Rockice_24]

Are you suggesting he will goto the Nets?

I am suggesting the insane amount of pressure that comes with playing for the Knicks. The rewards are unmatched if he can win but the other end of the spectrum if he can't will be to get run out of town like Melo. For a guy that clearly can't handle criticism he better win and win soon.

As for where he signs I have no idea but playing for another franchise without all the pressure might be better for him. If I had to put my life savings on it I'd guess he signs with NY.

Hes chasing Lebron. This would be huge for his legacy. I understand what you saying but all the links Kd had to NyK are for a reason.

No doubt if he is up for the challenge winning in NY could elevate him over LBJ. He's mentally fragile though and there is a reason it would vault him into the GOAT category because of the pressure it takes to win here. I just don't see him having the ability to handle it though.

The links to NY are for legacy as you said and that every sports writer wants it to happen for their own personal gain. They are going to say whatever they can to get KD here because it's better for their business. Nobody wants to write about the last place Knicks and what next guy they are going to draft each year.

[Paradise]

No one gives a rats ass about the Knicks outside of New York.

Casual fans care about current wins and stars. If the Nets land Durant and start winning they will become a hot topic team around the country

this couldnt be more false. knicks make news nationally without even being good

Stop it. They do not. Nobody was hyping as a franchise the Knicks when they sucked with Phil Jackson was all about Winslow + Aldridge and cap space (same old story again here).

They don’t even sellout Top 5 or 10 without being good which I have already proven and you keep avoiding the truth. The outlier here is the fact they have cap space, Top 5 lotto odds and the 2019 class is star studded which for any big market team is the ultimate trifecta but let’s stop acting like we’ve not heard this before from you. The world was supposed to be scared of Phil Jackson & 11 rangz that would recruit LeBron/KD to NY in 2016.

The Knicks make headlines like this once every 4 years based off what talking heads who are Knick fans want to see happen because everyone wants to see an actual Top 3 player in New York sports for a franchise worth a billion. It doesn’t matter the sport. These tired 20 year journalists sit and write these ‘what if’ pieces and keep the reader with the idea they can and will land this said ‘star’ regardless of basketball reasons. The Yankees, Mets have all had their World Series moments to capture the old nostalgia of 90’s NY. It’s no different to the guy who would rather listen to 90’s NY rap music over the new Cardi B.

If that writer doesn’t respect or like the owner/FO then they will likely write a piece about why this franchise cannot land a Top 3 player and shouldn’t think of doing so.

But the truth is the media simply wants to either see it happen or watch it fail miserably so we can be the new kings of New York (only due to KD or Kawhi) and the anti Dolan crowds begin to pile on as to why the fans of NY should boycott the franchise and make him suffer. It started during the playoffs against Philly and it would certainly last much longer if we landed two stars and they don’t even land Zion or Morant.

I haven’t seen a single front page this spring that was related to the New York Knicks. The Knicks when bad are relevant through podcast and these semi-journalists that are like Bill Simmons on Twitter for being bad and always finding new ways to be more bad.

Stephen A pushes the KD to NY idea and have now switched to BK because this is the first time we have something to talk about and we are actually well respected. The narrative changes when people are rooting for the Nets to rough up Philadelphia. That gives a great sense of what could be with two stars in a market that has never won a basketball championship and would be put in the same category of Jackie Robinson, Biggie Smalls and with Jay-Z beside him, apart of the fabric of Brooklyn and New York.

It boils down to preference: Manhattan, MSG, blue/orange shoe brand.

Dwight Howard was eligible for a $300m contract deal with Adidas by signing with the Nets which was a huge reason he pushed to be traded here in 2011.

[TheGreenArrow]

No one gives a rats ass about the Knicks outside of New York.

Casual fans care about current wins and stars. If the Nets land Durant and start winning they will become a hot topic team around the country

this couldnt be more false. knicks make news nationally without even being good

Stop it. They do not. Nobody was hyping as a franchise the Knicks when they sucked with Phil Jackson was all about Winslow + Aldridge and cap space (same old story again here).

They don’t even sellout Top 5 or 10 without being good which I have already proven and you keep avoiding the truth. The outlier here is the fact they have cap space, Top 5 lotto odds and the 2019 class is star studded which for any big market team is the ultimate trifecta but let’s stop acting like we’ve not heard this before from you. The world was supposed to be scared of Phil Jackson & 11 rangz that would recruit LeBron/KD to NY in 2016.

The Knicks make headlines like this once every 4 years based off what talking heads who are Knick fans want to see happen because everyone wants to see an actual Top 3 player in New York sports for a franchise worth a billion. It doesn’t matter the sport. These tired 20 year journalists sit and write these ‘what if’ pieces and keep the reader with the idea they can and will land this said ‘star’ regardless of basketball reasons. The Yankees, Mets have all had their World Series moments to capture the old nostalgia of 90’s NY. It’s no different to the guy who would rather listen to 90’s NY rap music over the new Cardi B.

If that writer doesn’t respect or like the owner/FO then they will likely write a piece about why this franchise cannot land a Top 3 player and shouldn’t think of doing so.

But the truth is the media simply wants to either see it happen or watch it fail miserably so we can be the new kings of New York (only due to KD or Kawhi) and the anti Dolan crowds begin to pile on as to why the fans of NY should boycott the franchise and make him suffer. It started during the playoffs against Philly and it would certainly last much longer if we landed two stars and they don’t even land Zion or Morant.

I haven’t seen a single front page this spring that was related to the New York Knicks. The Knicks when bad are relevant through podcast and these semi-journalists that are like Bill Simmons on Twitter for being bad and always finding new ways to be more bad.

Stephen A pushes the KD to NY idea and have now switched to BK because this is the first time we have something to talk about and we are actually well respected. The narrative changes when people are rooting for the Nets to rough up Philadelphia. That gives a great sense of what could be with two stars in a market that has never won a basketball championship and would be put in the same category of Jackie Robinson, Biggie Smalls and with Jay-Z beside him, apart of the fabric of Brooklyn and New York.

It boils down to preference: Manhattan, MSG, blue/orange shoe brand.

Dwight Howard was eligible for a $300m contract deal with Adidas by signing with the Nets which was a huge reason he pushed to be traded here in 2011.

[Claud]

Kyrie is not a good fit for us IMO. I'd rather keep Dlo 100% over Kyrie. He doesn't move the needle for us.

I think KD and Kawhi need to be convinced that we already have a good enough squad and don't need Kyrie to win.
Our core + KD and/or Kawhi is much better than the knicks with Kyrie plus 17 win team(Even if they land Zion which is a IF)

My hope is we steal KD from the Dubs and Marks and crew manage to convince KD to join us over the Knicks/Clips etc.

[Paradise]

this couldnt be more false. knicks make news nationally without even being good

Stop it. They do not. Nobody was hyping as a franchise the Knicks when they sucked with Phil Jackson was all about Winslow + Aldridge and cap space (same old story again here).

They don’t even sellout Top 5 or 10 without being good which I have already proven and you keep avoiding the truth. The outlier here is the fact they have cap space, Top 5 lotto odds and the 2019 class is star studded which for any big market team is the ultimate trifecta but let’s stop acting like we’ve not heard this before from you. The world was supposed to be scared of Phil Jackson & 11 rangz that would recruit LeBron/KD to NY in 2016.

The Knicks make headlines like this once every 4 years based off what talking heads who are Knick fans want to see happen because everyone wants to see an actual Top 3 player in New York sports for a franchise worth a billion. It doesn’t matter the sport. These tired 20 year journalists sit and write these ‘what if’ pieces and keep the reader with the idea they can and will land this said ‘star’ regardless of basketball reasons. The Yankees, Mets have all had their World Series moments to capture the old nostalgia of 90’s NY. It’s no different to the guy who would rather listen to 90’s NY rap music over the new Cardi B.

If that writer doesn’t respect or like the owner/FO then they will likely write a piece about why this franchise cannot land a Top 3 player and shouldn’t think of doing so.

But the truth is the media simply wants to either see it happen or watch it fail miserably so we can be the new kings of New York (only due to KD or Kawhi) and the anti Dolan crowds begin to pile on as to why the fans of NY should boycott the franchise and make him suffer. It started during the playoffs against Philly and it would certainly last much longer if we landed two stars and they don’t even land Zion or Morant.

I haven’t seen a single front page this spring that was related to the New York Knicks. The Knicks when bad are relevant through podcast and these semi-journalists that are like Bill Simmons on Twitter for being bad and always finding new ways to be more bad.

Stephen A pushes the KD to NY idea and have now switched to BK because this is the first time we have something to talk about and we are actually well respected. The narrative changes when people are rooting for the Nets to rough up Philadelphia. That gives a great sense of what could be with two stars in a market that has never won a basketball championship and would be put in the same category of Jackie Robinson, Biggie Smalls and with Jay-Z beside him, apart of the fabric of Brooklyn and New York.

It boils down to preference: Manhattan, MSG, blue/orange shoe brand.

Dwight Howard was eligible for a $300m contract deal with Adidas by signing with the Nets which was a huge reason he pushed to be traded here in 2011.

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[MrDollarBills]

this couldnt be more false. knicks make news nationally without even being good

Stop it. They do not. Nobody was hyping as a franchise the Knicks when they sucked with Phil Jackson was all about Winslow + Aldridge and cap space (same old story again here).

They don’t even sellout Top 5 or 10 without being good which I have already proven and you keep avoiding the truth. The outlier here is the fact they have cap space, Top 5 lotto odds and the 2019 class is star studded which for any big market team is the ultimate trifecta but let’s stop acting like we’ve not heard this before from you. The world was supposed to be scared of Phil Jackson & 11 rangz that would recruit LeBron/KD to NY in 2016.

The Knicks make headlines like this once every 4 years based off what talking heads who are Knick fans want to see happen because everyone wants to see an actual Top 3 player in New York sports for a franchise worth a billion. It doesn’t matter the sport. These tired 20 year journalists sit and write these ‘what if’ pieces and keep the reader with the idea they can and will land this said ‘star’ regardless of basketball reasons. The Yankees, Mets have all had their World Series moments to capture the old nostalgia of 90’s NY. It’s no different to the guy who would rather listen to 90’s NY rap music over the new Cardi B.

If that writer doesn’t respect or like the owner/FO then they will likely write a piece about why this franchise cannot land a Top 3 player and shouldn’t think of doing so.

But the truth is the media simply wants to either see it happen or watch it fail miserably so we can be the new kings of New York (only due to KD or Kawhi) and the anti Dolan crowds begin to pile on as to why the fans of NY should boycott the franchise and make him suffer. It started during the playoffs against Philly and it would certainly last much longer if we landed two stars and they don’t even land Zion or Morant.

I haven’t seen a single front page this spring that was related to the New York Knicks. The Knicks when bad are relevant through podcast and these semi-journalists that are like Bill Simmons on Twitter for being bad and always finding new ways to be more bad.

Stephen A pushes the KD to NY idea and have now switched to BK because this is the first time we have something to talk about and we are actually well respected. The narrative changes when people are rooting for the Nets to rough up Philadelphia. That gives a great sense of what could be with two stars in a market that has never won a basketball championship and would be put in the same category of Jackie Robinson, Biggie Smalls and with Jay-Z beside him, apart of the fabric of Brooklyn and New York.

It boils down to preference: Manhattan, MSG, blue/orange shoe brand.

Dwight Howard was eligible for a $300m contract deal with Adidas by signing with the Nets which was a huge reason he pushed to be traded here in 2011.

Knick fans are insecure as **** and yall can't even hide how nervous you all are about how this summer might go.

See, that's why I said Prok shouldn't have opened the door with all that crap about New York, acting like the Knicks, who have been one of the worst run franchises in the last 20 years of basketball, are some nationwide beloved darling franchise when they aren't.

Dude, you just gave these ass holes carte blanche to come on here and act like buffoons.

[TheGreenArrow]

Insecure about the nets??

This thread is cute.

[MrDollarBills]

Insecure about the nets??

This thread is cute.

It's cute that you claim not to be insecure, yet you felt the need to chime in.

[MGrand15]

You guys are really gonna make the mods have to ban people in the offseason? This isn't the Knick thread. No one cares about your opinions.

[MGrand15]

Kyrie is not a good fit for us IMO. I'd rather keep Dlo 100% over Kyrie. He doesn't move the needle for us.

I think KD and Kawhi need to be convinced that we already have a good enough squad and don't need Kyrie to win.
Our core + KD and/or Kawhi is much better than the knicks with Kyrie plus 17 win team(Even if they land Zion which is a IF)

My hope is we steal KD from the Dubs and Marks and crew manage to convince KD to join us over the Knicks/Clips etc.

Kyrie is really good but if the choice was keep the same team going vs. same exact time except Kyrie replaces DLo - I'm choosing DLo EASY. Kyrie was literally in the perfect basketball situation. Great coach. Good young players. Good vets. He tore that team apart. I just can't imagine how he'd treat our organization + young guys. We're far less established than Boston was.

Game 4 yesterday was literally everything I hate watching in basketball player. Selfish ball. Not because he's trying to make something happen but because he doesn't trust anyone else. Lazy defense. Blaming everyone else. Kyrie is a great player but if that guy is your best player and leader - you won't have much success. Period. Philly would've done him just like they did D'Lo.

[Aussienet3]

I am suggesting the insane amount of pressure that comes with playing for the Knicks. The rewards are unmatched if he can win but the other end of the spectrum if he can't will be to get run out of town like Melo. For a guy that clearly can't handle criticism he better win and win soon.

As for where he signs I have no idea but playing for another franchise without all the pressure might be better for him. If I had to put my life savings on it I'd guess he signs with NY.

Hes chasing Lebron. This would be huge for his legacy. I understand what you saying but all the links Kd had to NyK are for a reason.

No doubt if he is up for the challenge winning in NY could elevate him over LBJ. He's mentally fragile though and there is a reason it would vault him into the GOAT category because of the pressure it takes to win here. I just don't see him having the ability to handle it though.

The links to NY are for legacy as you said and that every sports writer wants it to happen for their own personal gain. They are going to say whatever they can to get KD here because it's better for their business. Nobody wants to write about the last place Knicks and what next guy they are going to draft each year.

Can you provide me one instance where he was mentally soft?

[MrDollarBills]

Kyrie is not a good fit for us IMO. I'd rather keep Dlo 100% over Kyrie. He doesn't move the needle for us.

I think KD and Kawhi need to be convinced that we already have a good enough squad and don't need Kyrie to win.
Our core + KD and/or Kawhi is much better than the knicks with Kyrie plus 17 win team(Even if they land Zion which is a IF)

My hope is we steal KD from the Dubs and Marks and crew manage to convince KD to join us over the Knicks/Clips etc.

Kyrie is really good but if the choice was keep the same team going vs. same exact time except Kyrie replaces DLo - I'm choosing DLo EASY. Kyrie was literally in the perfect basketball situation. Great coach. Good young players. Good vets. He tore that team apart. I just can't imagine how he'd treat our organization + young guys. We're far less established than Boston was.

Game 4 yesterday was literally everything I hate watching in basketball player. Selfish ball. Not because he's trying to make something happen but because he doesn't trust anyone else. Lazy defense. Blaming everyone else. Kyrie is a great player but if that guy is your best player and leader - you won't have much success. Period. Philly would've done him just like they did D'Lo.

If Russell shot 6-22 for 23 pts in a loss and behaved the way Irving does, people would be ripping their hair out.

Irving is a good player but unless he's the deal breaker between the Nets getting Durant, the Nets should roll with Russell.

[Papi_swav]

Kyrie is not a good fit for us IMO. I'd rather keep Dlo 100% over Kyrie. He doesn't move the needle for us.

I think KD and Kawhi need to be convinced that we already have a good enough squad and don't need Kyrie to win.
Our core + KD and/or Kawhi is much better than the knicks with Kyrie plus 17 win team(Even if they land Zion which is a IF)

My hope is we steal KD from the Dubs and Marks and crew manage to convince KD to join us over the Knicks/Clips etc.

Kyrie is really good but if the choice was keep the same team going vs. same exact time except Kyrie replaces DLo - I'm choosing DLo EASY. Kyrie was literally in the perfect basketball situation. Great coach. Good young players. Good vets. He tore that team apart. I just can't imagine how he'd treat our organization + young guys. We're far less established than Boston was.

Game 4 yesterday was literally everything I hate watching in basketball player. Selfish ball. Not because he's trying to make something happen but because he doesn't trust anyone else. Lazy defense. Blaming everyone else. Kyrie is a great player but if that guy is your best player and leader - you won't have much success. Period. Philly would've done him just like they did D'Lo.

Excellent points. Once I seen how Kyrie kept throwing his team and coach under the bus in the media, I'm good on him. He acts like a spoiled entitled little kid and he hasn't done anything besides ride LeBron's tail to the finals. He's been overrated since he hit that shot in the finals. Once things don't go his way here I could see him acting like a baby again. DLo> Kyrie 10 times out of 10.

[Trader_Joe]

I feel like they are a package deal, so...
I'm okay with that, if they want to do that in Brooklyn. Rather have Russell, too, but I'd get over it.

[Paradise]

Insecure about the nets??

This thread is cute.

Lol You got caught slippin’, homie. You decided to take time to enter our thread with a meaningless response (all facts btw). That is certainly insecure. Knick fans and their weak ass attempt at trolling and witty banter is always cute to witness.

[LOUiS-D]

If it's only Kyrie and it means losing DLo, absolutely not. If it's Kyrie or nothing and we still keep DLo. I'd do it. I wouldn't feel great about it. There'd be a backcourt logjam and chemistry issues. That said, I'd give this organisation the benefit of the doubt finding ways to make it work. It'd be frustrating for players and fans but it would more likely than not raise the ceiling with some risk of being worse.

[MrDollarBills]

Insecure about the nets??

This thread is cute.

Lol You got caught slippin’, homie. You decided to take time to enter our thread with a meaningless response (all facts btw). That is certainly insecure. Knick fans and their weak ass attempt at trolling and witty banter is always cute to witness.

Yep. I've about had it with their garbage. They were the worst team in the sport this season, an embarrassment, and yet they talk down about us all the time. **** them and their team.

These cats swear ON GOD that Durant/Irving are coming to their team. And they very well might.

But if they were so certain about it, how come either on here or the GB any time the Nets come up as a possible destination they go out of their way to discredit us? The weakest dogs always bark the loudest.

[Rockice_24]

Hes chasing Lebron. This would be huge for his legacy. I understand what you saying but all the links Kd had to NyK are for a reason.

No doubt if he is up for the challenge winning in NY could elevate him over LBJ. He's mentally fragile though and there is a reason it would vault him into the GOAT category because of the pressure it takes to win here. I just don't see him having the ability to handle it though.

The links to NY are for legacy as you said and that every sports writer wants it to happen for their own personal gain. They are going to say whatever they can to get KD here because it's better for their business. Nobody wants to write about the last place Knicks and what next guy they are going to draft each year.

Can you provide me one instance where he was mentally soft?

The guy had burner Twitter accounts to defend himself and got caught. It doesn't get much mentally weak then that.

There are plenty of other things he's done as well but I think that pretty much sums up what KD is about.