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Re: Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season 

Post#141 » by MGrand15 » Wed Feb 5, 2020 7:07 pm

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To be fair, the 4 names you listed are doing that kind of damage to everyone in the league. Especially Jokic and Sabonis who are probably two of the hardest bigs to defend in the league due to how skilled they are.

Also, with Bam, the first meeting he went off, but Allen played him straight up in the 2nd game and not only did we win but Allen dropped 11/11/1/1 on 5-6FG and was a +24 on the night.

Now another name you listed was Thomas Bryant (who I think is an underrated player) and if I'm not mistaken Bryant was coming in on the 2nd unit so we would need to see how that broke down about who allowed what. Even then, Allen still dropped 13/15/5asts/2blks on good efficiency in that game (which we got screwed when Beal injured Irving because he's a dick).

Allen needs to bulk up, I'm with you there but I still see improvement on his end and frankly he is the least of the Nets' concerns. With Allen, DJ and Claxton I'm not worried about center. I'm worried about consistency and production from the wing, which have been abysmal this season. Let's hope that Caris LeVert has finally woken up because if not imo that's a bigger problem than anything Allen is doing right now.


I addressed LeVert + wing production in my original post. And as part of my agenda, I complimented JA a lot as a follow up.

Calling something a concern doesn't mean it's a huge deal. Which is why I ended my post saying nothing gets done. And I don't think saying Capela at 25 (with 40 playoff starts under his belt) is more playoff ready than 21 year old JA is some huge attack. We'll see how how he does in the playoffs this year.

We're 22-27. We have a lot of concerns if we're talking about getting to a championship level. Some might just need time, some might require actual moves.
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Re: Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season 

Post#142 » by Prokorov » Wed Feb 5, 2020 7:39 pm

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MrDollarBills wrote:
To be fair, the 4 names you listed are doing that kind of damage to everyone in the league. Especially Jokic and Sabonis who are probably two of the hardest bigs to defend in the league due to how skilled they are.

Also, with Bam, the first meeting he went off, but Allen played him straight up in the 2nd game and not only did we win but Allen dropped 11/11/1/1 on 5-6FG and was a +24 on the night.

Now another name you listed was Thomas Bryant (who I think is an underrated player) and if I'm not mistaken Bryant was coming in on the 2nd unit so we would need to see how that broke down about who allowed what. Even then, Allen still dropped 13/15/5asts/2blks on good efficiency in that game (which we got screwed when Beal injured Irving because he's a dick).

Allen needs to bulk up, I'm with you there but I still see improvement on his end and frankly he is the least of the Nets' concerns. With Allen, DJ and Claxton I'm not worried about center. I'm worried about consistency and production from the wing, which have been abysmal this season. Let's hope that Caris LeVert has finally woken up because if not imo that's a bigger problem than anything Allen is doing right now.


I addressed LeVert + wing production in my original post. And as part of my agenda, I complimented JA a lot as a follow up.

Calling something a concern doesn't mean it's a huge deal. Which is why I ended my post saying nothing gets done. And I don't think saying Capela at 25 (with 40 playoff starts under his belt) is more playoff ready than 21 year old JA is some huge attack. We'll see how how he does in the playoffs this year.

We're 22-27. We have a lot of concerns if we're talking about getting to a championship level. Some might just need time, some might require actual moves.


Being awful for the majority of 40 playoff games doesnt make you more ready for anything but disappointing. no one in their right mind is taking Capella over current Jarrett Allen in any scenario, especially the playoffs.

We are 22-27 and not 12-37 in part because of how good allen has been.
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Re: Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season 

Post#143 » by MGrand15 » Wed Feb 5, 2020 9:44 pm

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MrDollarBills wrote:
To be fair, the 4 names you listed are doing that kind of damage to everyone in the league. Especially Jokic and Sabonis who are probably two of the hardest bigs to defend in the league due to how skilled they are.

Also, with Bam, the first meeting he went off, but Allen played him straight up in the 2nd game and not only did we win but Allen dropped 11/11/1/1 on 5-6FG and was a +24 on the night.

Now another name you listed was Thomas Bryant (who I think is an underrated player) and if I'm not mistaken Bryant was coming in on the 2nd unit so we would need to see how that broke down about who allowed what. Even then, Allen still dropped 13/15/5asts/2blks on good efficiency in that game (which we got screwed when Beal injured Irving because he's a dick).

Allen needs to bulk up, I'm with you there but I still see improvement on his end and frankly he is the least of the Nets' concerns. With Allen, DJ and Claxton I'm not worried about center. I'm worried about consistency and production from the wing, which have been abysmal this season. Let's hope that Caris LeVert has finally woken up because if not imo that's a bigger problem than anything Allen is doing right now.


I addressed LeVert + wing production in my original post. And as part of my agenda, I complimented JA a lot as a follow up.

Calling something a concern doesn't mean it's a huge deal. Which is why I ended my post saying nothing gets done. And I don't think saying Capela at 25 (with 40 playoff starts under his belt) is more playoff ready than 21 year old JA is some huge attack. We'll see how how he does in the playoffs this year.

We're 22-27. We have a lot of concerns if we're talking about getting to a championship level. Some might just need time, some might require actual moves.


Being awful for the majority of 40 playoff games doesnt make you more ready for anything but disappointing. no one in their right mind is taking Capella over current Jarrett Allen in any scenario, especially the playoffs.

We are 22-27 and not 12-37 in part because of how good allen has been.


How do you write a 3 sentence post with 3 lies in it? :lol: Come at me with some stats and actual facts if you're going to quote every one of my posts

I never said Allen wasn't good so your last point is completely irrelevant.
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Re: Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season 

Post#144 » by DarkXaero » Wed Feb 5, 2020 10:03 pm

MGrand15 wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
To be fair, the 4 names you listed are doing that kind of damage to everyone in the league. Especially Jokic and Sabonis who are probably two of the hardest bigs to defend in the league due to how skilled they are.

Also, with Bam, the first meeting he went off, but Allen played him straight up in the 2nd game and not only did we win but Allen dropped 11/11/1/1 on 5-6FG and was a +24 on the night.

Now another name you listed was Thomas Bryant (who I think is an underrated player) and if I'm not mistaken Bryant was coming in on the 2nd unit so we would need to see how that broke down about who allowed what. Even then, Allen still dropped 13/15/5asts/2blks on good efficiency in that game (which we got screwed when Beal injured Irving because he's a dick).

Allen needs to bulk up, I'm with you there but I still see improvement on his end and frankly he is the least of the Nets' concerns. With Allen, DJ and Claxton I'm not worried about center. I'm worried about consistency and production from the wing, which have been abysmal this season. Let's hope that Caris LeVert has finally woken up because if not imo that's a bigger problem than anything Allen is doing right now.


I addressed LeVert + wing production in my original post. And as part of my agenda, I complimented JA a lot as a follow up.

Calling something a concern doesn't mean it's a huge deal. Which is why I ended my post saying nothing gets done. And I don't think saying Capela at 25 (with 40 playoff starts under his belt) is more playoff ready than 21 year old JA is some huge attack. We'll see how how he does in the playoffs this year.

We're 22-27. We have a lot of concerns if we're talking about getting to a championship level. Some might just need time, some might require actual moves.
It's a reasonable post. Allen has improved a lot this season in playing against the centers he used to struggle a lot against, but there is still a long way to go for him. He's still not ready to stop the top centers in the league. We saw what Gobert did to him not long ago. He hasn't played Embiid this season, but we know how that goes. Even last game, Ayton gave him a hard time.
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Re: Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season 

Post#145 » by vincecarter4pres » Wed Feb 5, 2020 10:11 pm

Ayton did not give him a hard time at all imho. In fact whenever he was guarding Ayton I thought he forced him into a lot of bad shots and decisions and did well against him on the glass.
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Post#146 » by DarkXaero » Wed Feb 5, 2020 10:36 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:Ayton did not give him a hard time at all imho. In fact whenever he was guarding Ayton I thought he forced him into a lot of bad shots and decisions and did well against him on the glass.
Ayton scored 10 pts on him in the first 5 mins of the game. He ended the game with a 25/17/5 statline, which is well above his season average. Ayton started struggling as the game went on, but by that point, we were up huge anyway.
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Re: Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season 

Post#147 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Feb 5, 2020 10:37 pm

I just checked and Ayton had 25pts/17rebs on 12-22 shooting which honestly shocked me to look back at it because i barely noticed him on the floor.

Allen had 8/8/3asts/2blks on 4-7 shooting, +12 on the night.
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Re: Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season 

Post#148 » by vincecarter4pres » Thu Feb 6, 2020 12:16 am

MrDollarBills wrote:I just checked and Ayton had 25pts/17rebs on 12-22 shooting which honestly shocked me to look back at it because i barely noticed him on the floor.

Allen had 8/8/3asts/2blks on 4-7 shooting, +12 on the night.

Same. I thought he had like 15/9 on bad percentages. Imagine being the team who took him over Doncic, let alone J3 and Trae Young?
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Post#149 » by vincecarter4pres » Thu Feb 6, 2020 2:19 am

3 or 4 team deal where we get John Collins and Ricky Rubio for Allen and Dinwiddie?

Just your views from our end?
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Post#150 » by ecuhus1981 » Thu Feb 6, 2020 2:47 am

vincecarter4pres wrote:3 or 4 team deal where we get John Collins and Ricky Rubio for Allen and Dinwiddie?

Just your views from our end?

Eh, if I had more confidence in a Jordan/Claxton platoon, I'd entertain it. I don't believe that Collins is more valuable than Allen, although he puts up gaudier stats for sure. If you consider those 2 a wash, then it boils down to Dinwiddie for Rubio, an instant no from me.
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Post#151 » by Papi_swav » Thu Feb 6, 2020 3:22 am

vincecarter4pres wrote:3 or 4 team deal where we get John Collins and Ricky Rubio for Allen and Dinwiddie?

Just your views from our end?

I feel like this is making a move, just to make a move. I believe Din and Allen are apart of our future. And we'll only trade them for a legit proven star player. Collins is good and young but he don't have the track record yet.
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Post#152 » by GTR11 » Thu Feb 6, 2020 3:47 am

vincecarter4pres wrote:3 or 4 team deal where we get John Collins and Ricky Rubio for Allen and Dinwiddie?

Just your views from our end?

No :crazy:
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Post#154 » by GTR11 » Thu Feb 6, 2020 5:12 am

I can see Beal forcing his way into NYC as well. He's tired of losing and his girlfriend loves NY for popularity reasons.
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Post#155 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Feb 6, 2020 1:45 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:3 or 4 team deal where we get John Collins and Ricky Rubio for Allen and Dinwiddie?

Just your views from our end?


I like Collins, I think Dinwiddie better than Rubio. I don't know if Marks would do it.
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Post#156 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Feb 6, 2020 1:48 pm

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I would love it but I don't think the timing works.
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Post#157 » by DarkXaero » Thu Feb 6, 2020 8:28 pm

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I would love it but I don't think the timing works.
Yeah, with D Lo there now, they should be be able to keep him happy as long as they improve.
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Re: Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season 

Post#158 » by DarkXaero » Thu Feb 6, 2020 8:35 pm

If we're looking for a third string PG, Trey Burke, IT, and Tim Frazier have been waived.
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Post#159 » by GTR11 » Thu Feb 6, 2020 8:36 pm

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I would love it but I don't think the timing works.
Yeah, with D Lo there now, they should be be able to keep him happy as long as they improve.

That post didn't last long :lol: . Crazy how Rosas was able to pull up that trade. Minnesota fans should be happy right now, they got good things coming imo.
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Post#160 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Feb 6, 2020 8:43 pm

DarkXaero wrote:If we're looking for a third string PG, Trey Burke, IT, and Tim Frazier have been waived.


Trey Burke without hesitation.
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