Official Nets Trade Spculation Thread

[Prokorov]

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The funny part is, wearing masks has actually decimated the flu as cases of the flu have dropped at an astounding rate compared to 2019. I can't tell you the last time that I've even had a cold at this point

Yup, washing hands and staying inside helps too.

The numbers are already at extremely low risk levels. even for the unvaccinated. there is no need for such strict mandates. We had looser restrictions when we didnt even have vaccines and v=cases/complicartions/mortality was higher.

I fully support the idea of a mandate when needed. This one was overreaching/inconsistently applied and lasting longer then it needs to.

I'm all for being cautious too. like keep it a bit longer then you need. but the idea that a mandate is needed for science backed reasons at the moment... i dont see it.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Buyout market seems like the only realistic option.

Thaddeus Young would be a great add. Also Dragic.

I'm willing to just dump Carter at this point. Also Duke Jr.

Dragic would be an excellent fit. He seems like more of the same player who we struggle to succeed with. PF tweener who doesnt shoot well from three and isnt a huge presence on the glass or blocking shots. He also hasnt been healthy this year, something we also dont need much of.

I'd pass on him. at 33, nursing injuries and not being a shooter, id rather look elsewhere.

Bro hes better than Milsap. Thats all that matters.

[Prokorov]

Buyout market seems like the only realistic option.

Thaddeus Young would be a great add. Also Dragic.

I'm willing to just dump Carter at this point. Also Duke Jr.

Dragic would be an excellent fit. He seems like more of the same player who we struggle to succeed with. PF tweener who doesnt shoot well from three and isnt a huge presence on the glass or blocking shots. He also hasnt been healthy this year, something we also dont need much of.

I'd pass on him. at 33, nursing injuries and not being a shooter, id rather look elsewhere.

Bro hes better than Milsap. Thats all that matters.

Is it? we are low on roster spots. as it is someone has to go so that Kessler can be added to the playoff roster. In My estimation Thad doesnt provide a (sizeable) upgrade over James Johnson. He is probably a tier up from Brown in that he can finish near the rim and Brown is a floater and a prayer.

I think roster spots are at a premium. if you want to move brown for a fake second and sign thad i guess thats fine, but id hope any F we sign could shoot.

[TheNetsFan]

Dragic would be an excellent fit. He seems like more of the same player who we struggle to succeed with. PF tweener who doesnt shoot well from three and isnt a huge presence on the glass or blocking shots. He also hasnt been healthy this year, something we also dont need much of.

I'd pass on him. at 33, nursing injuries and not being a shooter, id rather look elsewhere.

Bro hes better than Milsap. Thats all that matters.

Is it? we are low on roster spots. as it is someone has to go so that Kessler can be added to the playoff roster. In My estimation Thad doesnt provide a (sizeable) upgrade over James Johnson. He is probably a tier up from Brown in that he can finish near the rim and Brown is a floater and a prayer.

I think roster spots are at a premium. if you want to move brown for a fake second and sign thad i guess thats fine, but id hope any F we sign could shoot.

It's not my money, but I'd be SHOCKED if Tsai added to the tax burden for anything less that an 8th man.

The playoff rotation locks: KD, Kyrie, Harden, Mills
Playoff rotation locks if healthy & not traded: Harris, Claxton
Playoff Rotation matchup based depth: Aldridge/Griffin, Bembry/Edwards/Johnson
Unlikely to see regular playoff minutes: Brown, Sharpe, Thomas, Carter, Duke Jr., Millsap

Whomever we bring in needs to bring something definitively better than the guys in tier 3. The only spot I see that happening would be at PG, given the lack of reliable depth. I'm with Prok, Thad is not going to be able to decidedly win the job over Edwards/Johnson.

[Prokorov]

Bro hes better than Milsap. Thats all that matters.

Is it? we are low on roster spots. as it is someone has to go so that Kessler can be added to the playoff roster. In My estimation Thad doesnt provide a (sizeable) upgrade over James Johnson. He is probably a tier up from Brown in that he can finish near the rim and Brown is a floater and a prayer.

I think roster spots are at a premium. if you want to move brown for a fake second and sign thad i guess thats fine, but id hope any F we sign could shoot.

It's not my money, but I'd be SHOCKED if Tsai added to the tax burden for anything less that an 8th man.

The playoff rotation locks: KD, Kyrie, Harden, Mills
Playoff rotation locks if healthy & not traded: Harris, Claxton
Playoff Rotation matchup based depth: Aldridge/Griffin, Bembry/Edwards/Johnson
Unlikely to see regular playoff minutes: Brown, Sharpe, Thomas, Carter, Duke Jr., Millsap

Whomever we bring in needs to bring something definitively better than the guys in tier 3. The only spot I see that happening would be at PG, given the lack of reliable depth. I'm with Prok, Thad is not going to be able to decidedly win the job over Edwards/Johnson.

Yeah that is basically how i see it. if you tell me we can dump Brown for free and sign Thad to the minimum post buy-out, sure. but thats not the type of move id image we target. I think we would be looking to land something like:

1) Eric Gordon/Marcus Smart/Buddy Hield
This would require us to ship out Harris, and probably another asset attached to him. Claxton, Cam Thomas, a Second rounder. Depends. Could also get other teams involved. But getting an available difference maker of Harris calibur is the only big move I can see us making.

2) Justin holiday/Terrance Ross/ Type, something resembling a 3 & D wing.
This would require moving [Brown + Carter + Milsap] 12 million in salary. The magic would likely do this deal just to get off the 11.5M Ross is owed next year. It is a free salary dump. The Pacers would probably require some kind of compensation. Sharpe? Thomas?

3) Buyout market.
Dragic is a no brainer but reports are there is tons of interest. So I don't see it. Gary Harris makes sense but he would almost certaintly go back to Denver. More realistic options in my estimation are DJ augustin (owed 7M next season by Houston, they dont need older vets), Kemba Walker (Knicks imploding, he would likely be attracted to a winning situation where he doesnt need to move very far), Serge Ibaka (Clips not contenders with injuries, could save some tax) and Justice Winslow (see Ibaka - although like Thad not a fit). Derrick Favors is a prime buyout candidate too, The thunder would avoid the strong possibility he opts in to his 10M option next year, which is probably why the Nets would pause on that though.

I'm looking at option 2 personally. Milsap they agreed to move. Brown has no role. Carter has been turd. That trio provides expiring salary we need to take back someone who could help without killing us in tax. Ross and Augustin to me are good fits who wouldnt cost much more the expiring salary.

[HardenGoat]

There is hope of the mandate being lifted. New York City has reached 85% of people getting at least one vaccine, which is a milestone that was just reached. With the cases reported plummeting this is the tail end of the pandemic. Pressure will mount to end the mandate and get the economy back in full swing again.

[GYK]

Cam/Bruce/Carter(likely the 2nds) for Kyle Kuzma

Joe/Nic for Grant or Turner/Craig but my favorite Dillion Brooks/Kyle Anderson. We would obviously have find a big in the buyout market, Dwight seems out of favor in LA. Really the best rebounder we can find(next season if Drummond is still a vet minimum we have to get him).

Harden-Kyrie-Brooks-Durant-Buyout
Patty-Kessler-Kuzma-Anderson-LMA/Sharpe
By far the deepest option. Extremely important without staggering stars style.

Harden-Kyrie-Durant-Grant-Buyout
Patty-Kessler-Kuzma-LMA/Sharpe
Both would have great small ball lineups but Grant/Kuzma gives us even more potency.

Harden-Kyrie-Durant-Kuzma-Turner
Patty-Craig-Kessler-LMA/Sharpe
Far less potency probably the best defensive team we could accomplish. Depending on the buyout market, particularly the wings, this could be the best option.

Still all better fits than our current team. We wouldn’t have to use the TPE’s, as we clearly are avoiding it. The team is more streamlined. Roles are fulfilled. Championship would be a healthy run away. Everyone would be under contract as they are trades from what’s on roster. We would be able to use next years MLE to improve.

Those trades all make us comically worse. especially the Joe/Claxton for Dillon brooks one.

Drummond? Bro, take a break

I know you’re a homer. I know you root for whoever is here. Why every suggestion from you is “do nothing”. Those are all exponentially better basketball teams. Particularly the Brooks/Anderson for Joe/Nic trade. Far better defensively than what we have. Transition possibilities. Far better length to gang rebound for a team that likes small ball.
And yes if we got Drummond in the buyout last year or last off-season or next offseason we would’ve solved our rebounding problems. Also we’re a PNR offense without dislodging screeners or threatening roll men. Have you not seen the Harden Rockets? Suns? Jazz?

Anywho if we traded Joe/Nic/Cam/Bruce/Carter for Brooks/Kyle/Anderson we would be a better team a stronger 2way team(rebounding to end defensive possessions away) and have a slew of shooters instead of one. And with your homer instincts not only would praise them you would overhype them.

[Prokorov]

Cam/Bruce/Carter(likely the 2nds) for Kyle Kuzma

Joe/Nic for Grant or Turner/Craig but my favorite Dillion Brooks/Kyle Anderson. We would obviously have find a big in the buyout market, Dwight seems out of favor in LA. Really the best rebounder we can find(next season if Drummond is still a vet minimum we have to get him).

Harden-Kyrie-Brooks-Durant-Buyout
Patty-Kessler-Kuzma-Anderson-LMA/Sharpe
By far the deepest option. Extremely important without staggering stars style.

Harden-Kyrie-Durant-Grant-Buyout
Patty-Kessler-Kuzma-LMA/Sharpe
Both would have great small ball lineups but Grant/Kuzma gives us even more potency.

Harden-Kyrie-Durant-Kuzma-Turner
Patty-Craig-Kessler-LMA/Sharpe
Far less potency probably the best defensive team we could accomplish. Depending on the buyout market, particularly the wings, this could be the best option.

Still all better fits than our current team. We wouldn’t have to use the TPE’s, as we clearly are avoiding it. The team is more streamlined. Roles are fulfilled. Championship would be a healthy run away. Everyone would be under contract as they are trades from what’s on roster. We would be able to use next years MLE to improve.

Those trades all make us comically worse. especially the Joe/Claxton for Dillon brooks one.

Drummond? Bro, take a break

I know you’re a homer. I know you root for whoever is here. Why every suggestion from you is “do nothing”. Those are all exponentially better basketball teams. Particularly the Brooks/Anderson for Joe/Nic trade. Far better defensively than what we have. Transition possibilities. Far better length to gang rebound for a team that likes small ball.
And yes if we got Drummond in the buyout last year or last off-season or next offseason we would’ve solved our rebounding problems. Also we’re a PNR offense without dislodging screeners or threatening roll men. Have you not seen the Harden Rockets? Suns? Jazz?

Anywho if we traded Joe/Nic/Cam/Bruce/Carter for Brooks/Kyle/Anderson we would be a better team a stronger 2way team(rebounding to end defensive possessions away) and have a slew of shooters instead of one. And with your homer instincts not only would praise them you would overhype them.

I'm the furtherest thing from a homer on this board. the biggest criticism i get is for underating and hating on our own guys, especially the younger players or buyout replacements.

Brooks/Anderson does not make us better. We dont improve shooting and we dont improve much defensively. Brooks maybe provides more offense then bembry with similar level defense. We lose the leagues best three point shooting role guy in Joe and swap him for Anderson who shoots mostly midrange.

Drummond wouldnt play so he is irrelevant. Anderson probably wouldnt play either. guys who dont crack the rotation wont help us. Your solution to fixing shooting is to trade our best shooter for guys who dont shoot. and you want to fix an unimportant unvalued issue (rebounding) at the expense of shooting and defense.

I dont care about Joe Harris or Claxton. id trade both today and drive them to the airport. Im not trading them for a buyout scrub like drummond or role guys who dont fit and leave us with even less shooting then we have now.

[GYK]

Those trades all make us comically worse. especially the Joe/Claxton for Dillon brooks one.

Drummond? Bro, take a break

I know you’re a homer. I know you root for whoever is here. Why every suggestion from you is “do nothing”. Those are all exponentially better basketball teams. Particularly the Brooks/Anderson for Joe/Nic trade. Far better defensively than what we have. Transition possibilities. Far better length to gang rebound for a team that likes small ball.
And yes if we got Drummond in the buyout last year or last off-season or next offseason we would’ve solved our rebounding problems. Also we’re a PNR offense without dislodging screeners or threatening roll men. Have you not seen the Harden Rockets? Suns? Jazz?

Anywho if we traded Joe/Nic/Cam/Bruce/Carter for Brooks/Kyle/Anderson we would be a better team a stronger 2way team(rebounding to end defensive possessions away) and have a slew of shooters instead of one. And with your homer instincts not only would praise them you would overhype them.

I'm the furtherest thing from a homer on this board. the biggest criticism i get is for underating and hating on our own guys, especially the younger players or buyout replacements.

Brooks/Anderson does not make us better. We dont improve shooting and we dont improve much defensively. Brooks maybe provides more offense then bembry with similar level defense. We lose the leagues best three point shooting role guy in Joe and swap him for Anderson who shoots mostly midrange.

Drummond wouldnt play so he is irrelevant. Anderson probably wouldnt play either. guys who dont crack the rotation wont help us. Your solution to fixing shooting is to trade our best shooter for guys who dont shoot. and you want to fix an unimportant unvalued issue (rebounding) at the expense of shooting and defense.

I dont care about Joe Harris or Claxton. id trade both today and drive them to the airport. Im not trading them for a buyout scrub like drummond or role guys who dont fit and leave us with even less shooting then we have now.

I don’t know what other people call you. I can only go on what I read and our interactions. You sir, are a homer. Less about basketball knowledge and just love of a team. That’s cool. I don’t hate it.

It was two trades Brooks/Anderson for Joe/Nic and Cam/Bruce/Carter for Kuzma. Anderson with the least volume but a willing shooter. Cam will not be playing in the playoffs, so while we traded 1 elite shooter we gained 3. Spacing doesnt require 1 great shooter but multiple. As you can see with every other team. Including last season Clippers vs Jazz. It wasn’t Luke but the combination of multiple shooters spreading out that was effective against the Jazz. As you can see with Suns. Or Hardens Rockets(who weren’t even particularly efficient yet the volume from multiple options was their greatest strength). As for defense I don’t know how that can be argued as not fact. Brooks/Kyle/Anderson all are plus defenders who bring length and possession ending rebounding. The size to put on 1-4 and some 5’s(especially non scoring 5’s). Combined with Kessler that’s 4 6’7+ wings who can switch and defend in isolation. Yes I get it you don’t want to acknowledge holes on the team because you don’t want to lose anyone but adding three 3&D wings with varying levels of potency for one shooter and two young players not polished enough to be relied on is about winning and not a dream future we’re everyone on your team turns to be a star.

Drummond can’t be gotten this season. Didn’t mention trading for him, that’s head cannon. However since Sharpe does play Drummond would absolutely play and if it cost Sharpe I would gladly do it.

Again they all shoot at pretty high volume and at a decent clip while adding other offensive skills. You can’t guarantee where the kickout goes. It’s unfortunate but that’s just life. We’ve lost so many games this year and last strictly due to rebounding. Our defense isn’t that good. Our saving grace is that we score efficiently enough to play halfcourt defense often(while pressuring teams to keep up). Even last season with a terrible rating we had the 2nd best opponent FG%. Why would a team that makes teams miss have a bad defensive rating? Offensive rebounds(and a lack of turnovers). Teams had more possessions than us. Rebounding ends the defensive possession and it’s crucial for us who will play Harden/Irving/Patty/LMA(add Harris and Nic, since he doesn’t rebound well) for major minutes as they aren’t exactly good defenders(sans Nic, yet he doesn’t rebound nor is he really good in the post). Idk how you don’t know this.

You clearly don’t understand fit if you don’t think Brooks/Kuzma/Anderson doesn’t fit. Again you overvalue what’s on your team. You undervalue anything your team doesn’t do well, with a simple we don’t need it. You are a homer.

[Hello Brooklyn]

CBS is reporting we could get Ibaka through buyout.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/2022-nba-trade-deadline-buyers-guide-lakers-nets-all-in-to-win-now-suns-bulls-among-more-flexible-teams/

That would be an awesome add. We know the Clippers want to dump him to save money and him and KD are tight.

[Prokorov]

I don’t know what other people call you. I can only go on what I read and our interactions. You sir, are a homer. Less about basketball knowledge and just love of a team. That’s cool. I don’t hate it.

In what way am I a homer? was I a homer when I said claxton was a g-league level player who would be packing groceries in a few months? Was I a homer when I had us winning 10 less games then the rest of the board in our preseason poll here? Was I a homer when i proposed 5 Harris trades in this very thread? Or when i proposed similar trades before he was injured?

Was I a homer when i trashed LMA? Was I a homer when i said Miami was the best team in the east after their offseason moves?

you have no clue what you are talking about

[Prokorov]

CBS is reporting we could get Ibaka through buyout.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/2022-nba-trade-deadline-buyers-guide-lakers-nets-all-in-to-win-now-suns-bulls-among-more-flexible-teams/

That would be an awesome add. We know the Clippers want to dump him to save money and him and KD are tight.

I'm not sure what Ibaka has left. The little I saw of him last year he seemed to have lost a step... BUT at the very least he is a shot blocker and we dont have any shot blockers. Claxton may fill that off in the stat sheet but most of his blocks come off switches, on jumpers. Ibaka is a legit shot blocker at the rim on players of all sizes. With the exception of 18-19 he has shot very well from three the past 8 years or so... meaning nash might actually play him too.

I'd be happy if we landed him. Would give us a dimension we miss.

[NetsWorld]

I don’t know what other people call you. I can only go on what I read and our interactions. You sir, are a homer. Less about basketball knowledge and just love of a team. That’s cool. I don’t hate it.

In what way am I a homer? was I a homer when I said claxton was a g-league level player who would be packing groceries in a few months? Was I a homer when I had us winning 10 less games then the rest of the board in our preseason poll here? Was I a homer when i proposed 5 Harris trades in this very thread? Or when i proposed similar trades before he was injured?

Was I a homer when i trashed LMA? Was I a homer when i said Miami was the best team in the east after their offseason moves?

you have no clue what you are talking about

Miami doesn't have the "it" factor when it matters most. I still don't think they get past the Bucks and obviously the Nets with a big three playing. Won't happen. Bucks and Nets will play heavy defense when it really matters and the opposing team's players will cave and choke.

[TheNetsFan]

It's a shame the Ingles makes as much as he does. I feel like Utah would go for a Brown+Carter+Millsap package, but we'd need to add Clax or Johnson to make the money work. Utah won't get much else, and for us it would just be about opening roster spots.

It's possible if Utah incentivizes OKC to take Ingles on, and then they can use the TPE they get to take on a Brown or Millsap for a fake 2nd.

[Prokorov]

I don’t know what other people call you. I can only go on what I read and our interactions. You sir, are a homer. Less about basketball knowledge and just love of a team. That’s cool. I don’t hate it.

In what way am I a homer? was I a homer when I said claxton was a g-league level player who would be packing groceries in a few months? Was I a homer when I had us winning 10 less games then the rest of the board in our preseason poll here? Was I a homer when i proposed 5 Harris trades in this very thread? Or when i proposed similar trades before he was injured?

Was I a homer when i trashed LMA? Was I a homer when i said Miami was the best team in the east after their offseason moves?

you have no clue what you are talking about

Miami doesn't have the "it" factor when it matters most. I still don't think they get past the Bucks and obviously the Nets with a big three playing. Won't happen. Bucks and Nets will play heavy defense when it really matters and the opposing team's players will cave and choke.

Bucks defense is not on miami's level. If the bucks face miami, they are staring at a beating that makes the bubble look like a papercut. It would be miami in 4 or 5 with multiple blow outs. Miami is stacked defensively and are much better coached. Giannis is still a liability despite running into 100 injured opponents last year

[Prokorov]

It's a shame the Ingles makes as much as he does. I feel like Utah would go for a Brown+Carter+Millsap package, but we'd need to add Clax or Johnson to make the money work. Utah won't get much else, and for us it would just be about opening roster spots.

It's possible if Utah incentivizes OKC to take Ingles on, and then they can use the TPE they get to take on a Brown or Millsap for a fake 2nd.

Ingles is out for the year, i doubt there would be interest on our end

[Hello Brooklyn]

Despite our horrible play lately nobody really scares me. Which makes it seem less important to make a panic move.

Miami isn't a real threat. I don't care how much hype they get. Lowry is not even an all star. As good as Jimmy Butler is hes not Kevin Durant, hes not Harden, and hes not Kyrie Irving. Talent wins.

Chicago, Cleveland, Philly are nice stories. Not good enough.

Milwaukee is the only real threat. But theyre not even playing well. Their only shot was to be hoping we were injured. And for Giannis to just dominate.

Even in the West, Warriors do not scare me at all. Nor do the Suns.

The real threat to me is if the Lakers get it together, and LeBron and AD go on a big playoff tear while limiting Westbrook's limits. But seems unlikely considering all the injuries.

[HardenGoat]

Despite our horrible play lately nobody really scares me. Which makes it seem less important to make a panic move.

Miami isn't a real threat. I don't care how much hype they get. Lowry is not even an all star. As good as Jimmy Butler is hes not Kevin Durant, hes not Harden, and hes not Kyrie Irving. Talent wins.

Chicago, Cleveland, Philly are nice stories. Not good enough.

Milwaukee is the only real threat. But theyre not even playing well. Their only shot was to be hoping we were injured. And for Giannis to just dominate.

Even in the West, Warriors do not scare me at all. Nor do the Suns.

The real threat to me is if the Lakers get it together, and LeBron and AD go on a big playoff tear while limiting Westbrook's limits. But seems unlikely considering all the injuries.

It's our year as long as we stay healthy. Harden has backed off as he learned the hard way last year, he probably thought he could play through hammy tightness last year and he cant. Durant should be fine once he's back. Iam starting to think the mandate is going to get lifted by March. With all 3 its a chip.

[TheNetsFan]

It's a shame the Ingles makes as much as he does. I feel like Utah would go for a Brown+Carter+Millsap package, but we'd need to add Clax or Johnson to make the money work. Utah won't get much else, and for us it would just be about opening roster spots.

It's possible if Utah incentivizes OKC to take Ingles on, and then they can use the TPE they get to take on a Brown or Millsap for a fake 2nd.

Ingles is out for the year, i doubt there would be interest on our end

I know, which is why it makes sense. He's an insurance paid, expiring contract that could help open up some roster spots by trading multiple scraps for one.

[Claud]

Ibaka's only 32... is he really done?

Would not mind giving him a look, can't hurt. Plus him and KD are tight.