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Post #141 » by **CalamityX12** » Mon Mar 7, 2022 1:05 am

MrDollarBills wrote:
Jay555 wrote:Kyrie can talk. I will give him that lol... You barely play basketball. I have not started with your injury history.

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Please put that on a shirt!

Post #142 » by **NyCeEvO** » Mon Mar 7, 2022 1:08 am

Hello Brooklyn wrote:
NyCeEvO wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:When one guy goes for 50 its very hard to win.

And he was making a ton of tough contested shots.

Again this franchise is cursed. This happens to us every time.

He had many open 3s and he was guarded by guys 5-6" shorter than him and 20-30 lbs lighter. We gave him a mismatch nearly every time. We were essentially begging for him to get hot. if you let him get a rhythm, he can do this. He's done it plenty of times before and at least a few times to us.

He also hit a bunch of contested shots.

If a scorer gets hot, contesting their shot has less impact than it normally would.

But besides that, I don't recall many high quality contests/challenges (i.e. when Tatum jumps for his shot, there is a hand directly in front of his face). Simply being front of a guy or raising your hand to reach his chin as he's jumping is not a good contest.

He created space and destroyed our defense, which wasn't even good in the first place.

And hes not a good enough shooter to make that many wide open 3s either.

What? Plenty of players would make that many 3s if they are wide open. I strongly disagree with this notion.

Since the start of the season and excluding today's game, Tatum has had 7 games with at least 6 made 3s. He's had 2 games of 7 made 3s (Dec 13th, Jan 25th) and 1 game of 9 made 3s (Jan 23rd). He's definitely more than capable of getting hot from downtown.

He played way over his head. Which is the sad turth.

We always get bad luck.

I assume you don't follow Tatum. He currently has the 8th highest scoring average in the league at 26ppg. During this season and excluding today's game, he's already had 20 games of 30+ point games; 10 of 36+ point games; 3 of 40+; and a 51pt game on January 25th.

In his playoff career, he's had 8 30+ point games, 3 of which have come against us. In fact, his 2 highest scoring playoff games came against us this past postseason. He scored 50 points (5/11 3P) on May 28th and 40 points (3/7 3P) on May 30th.

So yes, he's 1) totally capable of doing this, (because he's done it to us on several occasions in the regular and postseason), and 2) we clearly do not guard him well.

Post #143 » by **NyCeEvO** » Mon Mar 7, 2022 1:16 am

Hello Brooklyn wrote:Man I miss this team so much.

Last team we actually had a group of winners. Who knows if we will ever get these vibes again

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Yeah, I loved that team. I still have Kmart's throwback Swingman jersey. I wore it to the game against the Bulls I went to last season. I always loved his passion and how he pumped up the crowd. I either misplaced or donated my throwback RJ jersey years ago.

MrDollarBills · Post #144 » by **MrDollarBills** » Mon Mar 7, 2022 1:18 am

NyCeEvO wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:
NyCeEvO wrote:He had many open 3s and he was guarded by guys 5-6" shorter than him and 20-30 lbs lighter. We gave him a mismatch nearly every time. We were essentially begging for him to get hot. if you let him get a rhythm, he can do this. He's done it plenty of times before and at least a few times to us.

He also hit a bunch of contested shots.

If a scorer gets hot, contesting their shot has less impact than it normally would.

But besides that, I don't recall many high quality contests/challenges (i.e. when Tatum jumps for his shot, there is a hand directly in front of his face). Simply being front of a guy or raising your hand to reach his chin as he's jumping is not a good contest.

He created space and destroyed our defense, which wasn't even good in the first place.

And hes not a good enough shooter to make that many wide open 3s either.

What? Plenty of players would make that many 3s if they are wide open. I strongly disagree with this notion.

Since the start of the season and excluding today's game, Tatum has had 7 games with at least 6 made 3s. He's had 2 games of 7 made 3s (Dec 13th, Jan 25th) and 1 game of 9 made 3s (Jan 23rd). He's definitely more than capable of getting hot from downtown.

He played way over his head. Which is the sad turth.

We always get bad luck.

I assume you don't follow Tatum. He currently has the 8th highest scoring average in the league at 26ppg. During this season and excluding today's game, he's already had 20 games of 30+ point games; 10 of 36+ point games; 3 of 40+; and a 51pt game on January 25th.

In his playoff career, he's had 8 30+ point games, 3 of which have come against us. [u]In fact, his 2 highest scoring playoff games came against us this past postseason.[/u] He scored 50 points (5/11 3P) on May 28th and 40 points (3/7 3P) on May 30th.

So yes, he's 1) totally capable of doing this, (because he's done it to us on several occasions in the regular and postseason), and 2) we clearly do not guard him well.

Acting like Tatum is a bum is kind of wild. This guy has torched us plenty of times. The shots where we left him wide open were inexplicable

MrDollarBills · Post #145 » by **MrDollarBills** » Mon Mar 7, 2022 1:20 am

Hello Brooklyn wrote:We are the worst defensive team in the NBA since January 1st.

Why the **** are we sticking to Nash's idiotic switching scheme? We clearly don't have the right players to pull it off.

The idiot has us switching everything when we are running three guard line ups.

Marks is a disgrace for hiring this buffoon

Hello Brooklyn · Post #146 » by **Hello Brooklyn** » Mon Mar 7, 2022 1:24 am

MrDollarBills wrote:
NyCeEvO wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:
He also hit a bunch of contested shots.

If a scorer gets hot, contesting their shot has less impact than it normally would.

But besides that, I don't recall many high quality contests/challenges (i.e. when Tatum jumps for his shot, there is a hand directly in front of his face). Simply being front of a guy or raising your hand to reach his chin as he's jumping is not a good contest.

He created space and destroyed our defense, which wasn't even good in the first place.

And hes not a good enough shooter to make that many wide open 3s either.

What? Plenty of players would make that many 3s if they are wide open. I strongly disagree with this notion.

Since the start of the season and excluding today's game, Tatum has had 7 games with at least 6 made 3s. He's had 2 games of 7 made 3s (Dec 13th, Jan 25th) and 1 game of 9 made 3s (Jan 23rd). He's definitely more than capable of getting hot from downtown.

He played way over his head. Which is the sad turth.

We always get bad luck.

I assume you don't follow Tatum. He currently has the 8th highest scoring average in the league at 26ppg. During this season and excluding today's game, he's already had 20 games of 30+ point games; 10 of 36+ point games; 3 of 40+; and a 51pt game on January 25th.

In his playoff career, he's had 8 30+ point games, 3 of which have come against us. [u]In fact, his 2 highest scoring playoff games came against us this past postseason.[/u] He scored 50 points (5/11 3P) on May 28th and 40 points (3/7 3P) on May 30th.

So yes, he's 1) totally capable of doing this, (because he's done it to us on several occasions in the regular and postseason), and 2) we clearly do not guard him well.

Acting like Tatum is a bum is kind of wild. This guy has torched us plenty of times. The shots where we left him wide open were inexplicable

Guys youre being ridiculous. I never called Tatum a bum.

He scored 50 on us!!!!! He had the best game of his life.

Yes we played defense. Yes we left him open too many times.

He also played one of his best games ever!

Were awful defensively every game. And players don't usually put 50 on us.

He made extremely tough shots. Including shooting lights out from 3. Something he usually doesn't do.

Lets not act like we also didn't get extremely unlucky!

This franchise is cursed.

Its not about making excuses for Nash. Its also recognizing how many times we get **** over as well.

Hello Brooklyn · Post #147 » by **Hello Brooklyn** » Mon Mar 7, 2022 1:27 am

MrDollarBills wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:We are the worst defensive team in the NBA since January 1st.

Why the **** are we sticking to Nash's idiotic switching scheme? We clearly don't have the right players to pull it off.

The idiot has us switching everything when we are running three guard line ups.

Marks is a disgrace for hiring this buffoon

The switching thing in insane.

They were constantly getting switches for Tatum on Curry. And we just LET them do it.

Clearly the switching has been a massive failure.

But Nash won't get away from it.

Post #148 » by **NyCeEvO** » Mon Mar 7, 2022 1:36 am

MrDollarBills wrote:
NyCeEvO wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:
He also hit a bunch of contested shots.

If a scorer gets hot, contesting their shot has less impact than it normally would.

But besides that, I don't recall many high quality contests/challenges (i.e. when Tatum jumps for his shot, there is a hand directly in front of his face). Simply being front of a guy or raising your hand to reach his chin as he's jumping is not a good contest.

He created space and destroyed our defense, which wasn't even good in the first place.

And hes not a good enough shooter to make that many wide open 3s either.

What? Plenty of players would make that many 3s if they are wide open. I strongly disagree with this notion.

Since the start of the season and excluding today's game, Tatum has had 7 games with at least 6 made 3s. He's had 2 games of 7 made 3s (Dec 13th, Jan 25th) and 1 game of 9 made 3s (Jan 23rd). He's definitely more than capable of getting hot from downtown.

He played way over his head. Which is the sad turth.

We always get bad luck.

I assume you don't follow Tatum. He currently has the 8th highest scoring average in the league at 26ppg. During this season and excluding today's game, he's already had 20 games of 30+ point games; 10 of 36+ point games; 3 of 40+; and a 51pt game on January 25th.

In his playoff career, he's had 8 30+ point games, 3 of which have come against us. [u]In fact, his 2 highest scoring playoff games came against us this past postseason.[/u] He scored 50 points (5/11 3P) on May 28th and 40 points (3/7 3P) on May 30th.

So yes, he's 1) totally capable of doing this, (because he's done it to us on several occasions in the regular and postseason), and 2) we clearly do not guard him well.

Acting like Tatum is a bum is kind of wild. This guy has torched us plenty of times. The shots where we left him wide open were inexplicable

I've been high on Tatum since his days at Duke. You can go back and check our draft thread on here back in 2017. He was my #1 pick. I always believed he had the highest floor of anyone in that draft. I was flabbergasted that Philly not only selected Fultz over him, but traded up to 1st from 3rd to draft Fultz. Philly could've had Embiid (2014), Simmons (2016), and Tatum (2017) on the same team.

Boston made out like bandits. They were the #1 seed in the Eastern Conference in 2017 and got the #1 pick from us due to pick swaps. Tatum should've been ours. :banghead:

Post #149 » by **NyCeEvO** » Mon Mar 7, 2022 1:52 am

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Shark · Post #150 » by **Shark** » Mon Mar 7, 2022 1:54 am

Hello Brooklyn wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:We are the worst defensive team in the NBA since January 1st.

Why the **** are we sticking to Nash's idiotic switching scheme? We clearly don't have the right players to pull it off.

The idiot has us switching everything when we are running three guard line ups.

Marks is a disgrace for hiring this buffoon

The switching thing in insane.

They were constantly getting switches for Tatum on Curry. And we just LET them do it.

Clearly the switching has been a massive failure.

But Nash won't get away from it.

If he really wants to switch, then at least us the right players. Throw out Kyrie, Duke/Edwards/Johnson, Brown, Claxton, Durant.

The spacing on that lineup is ****, but its not like Nash is even really utilizing our spacing players (Mills, Curry, Dragic) all that well anyway. What the **** is the point of sacrificing defense when you're just going to have those guys stand around and watch Kyrie and KD do everything by themselves?

Ime wasn't wrong about how we're not that hard to figure out. There is no system with Nash. So if that's the case you might as well roll with a lineup that might at least give you a chance to stop the other team while Kyrie and KD go off.

Shark · Post #151 » by **Shark** » Mon Mar 7, 2022 1:59 am

NyCeEvO wrote:

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Jez... we've got 17 games left and nothing is changing. What the **** is going to improve in that time frame? Especially with Kyrie still being a part-time player. Is Nash going to magically implement a half-decent offensive/defensive scheme in that time?

Jay555 · Post #152 » by **Jay555** » Mon Mar 7, 2022 2:24 am

Hello Brooklyn wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:We are the worst defensive team in the NBA since January 1st.

Why the **** are we sticking to Nash's idiotic switching scheme? We clearly don't have the right players to pull it off.

The idiot has us switching everything when we are running three guard line ups.

Marks is a disgrace for hiring this buffoon

The switching thing in insane.

They were constantly getting switches for Tatum on Curry. And we just LET them do it.

Clearly the switching has been a massive failure.

But Nash won't get away from it.

Curry is a worry in the playoff defensively because the opponents can hunt him on the switches.

Attacking Curry and hacking Simmons were bascailly how the Hawks beat the 76ers last year.

Hello Brooklyn · Post #153 » by **Hello Brooklyn** » Mon Mar 7, 2022 2:37 am

Jay555 wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
The idiot has us switching everything when we are running three guard line ups.

Marks is a disgrace for hiring this buffoon

The switching thing in insane.

They were constantly getting switches for Tatum on Curry. And we just LET them do it.

Clearly the switching has been a massive failure.

But Nash won't get away from it.

Curry is a worry in the playoff defensively because the opponents can hunt him on the switches.

Attacking Curry and hacking Simmons were bascailly how the Hawks beat the 76ers last year.

I think Curry is less of a liability if you keep him on small guards.

But hes not at all suited for a switching defense.

Him on Tatum was an epic disaster.

HardenGoat · Post #154 » by **HardenGoat** » Mon Mar 7, 2022 3:26 am

Another game lost due to an unavailable player. If Simmons was on the floor this Tatum breakout game would not have happened. Simmons is a huge defensive piece that is missing. He would not have allowed a rhythm shooter like that get hot.

Revived · Post #155 » by **Revived** » Mon Mar 7, 2022 6:24 am

Shark wrote:
NyCeEvO wrote:

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Jez... we've got 17 games left and nothing is changing. What the **** is going to improve in that time frame? Especially with Kyrie still being a part-time player. Is Nash going to magically implement a half-decent offensive/defensive scheme in that time?

Bolded is not true. Simmons is going to make a difference both offensively with his playmaking and defensively with his versatility.

ecuhus1981 · Post #156 » by **ecuhus1981** » Mon Mar 7, 2022 9:28 am

^

You're operating under the assumption that Simmons will play this season? We all hope so, of course. But if he doesn't for some crazy reason, after everything else that's happened, would it shock you?

MrDollarBills · Post #157 » by **MrDollarBills** » Mon Mar 7, 2022 9:55 am

NyCeEvO wrote:

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I give up. I don't care anymore.

ecuhus1981 · Post #158 » by **ecuhus1981** » Mon Mar 7, 2022 1:48 pm

Zero sense of urgency at the top, during this home stretch. Our leaders think they're displaying grace under fire, but it feels more tone deaf in the face of adversity.

At this point I'm not holding out for a championship run. If they magically come together despite all odds, I'll celebrate it, but I can't put that expectation on them anymore. They've given us too much data to suggest otherwise.

I've said it before, all I really hope for now is honesty, accountability and for my team to go down swinging. No one is brave enough to be honest about their disappointment with Kyrie's self inflicted part time status, due to our PR muzzle (Millsap and Harden hinted at it the most, and they're gone now). No one is holding anyone else accountable despite woeful underachieving, no jobs are at risk and no roster or rotation spots are s battleground. Worst yet, it feels like we're about to go out with a pitiful whimper, instead of the lion's roar that we all witnessed last postseason.

Prokorov · Post #159 » by **Prokorov** » Mon Mar 7, 2022 4:09 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:Lol. We just let Tatum walk into 2 uncontested 3s.

It would be nice if we had a guy that can defend wing players because having PGs defending a 6 foot 8 scorer seems like a bad idea

Well, we do have one. hopefully he plays soon.

Prokorov · Post #160 » by **Prokorov** » Mon Mar 7, 2022 4:16 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:We had both KD and Kyrie.

And we still couldn't beat them. No excuses today.

This team is a mess. KD couldn't save this dumpster fire.

Like ive been saying the past 2 weeks... you can blame kyrie/the mandate. you can blake KD's injury, but this team stunk when those 2 both played.

KD/Kyrie couldnt be a blazers team without Lillard/cj/nance/powell they wont beat boston in boston. We were 14-12 or something pre harden trade last year.

unless its KD/Kyrie/Ben the coaching staff is too much to overcome