2023-24 Trade Deadline Thread

[3pt_chucker]

Who says no this this?

Heat: DFS + Dinwiddie

Nets: Bruce Brown + Dru Smith (filler to be waived) + 24 FRP via LA Clippers

Raptors: Tyler Herro + Caleb Martin

Probably the Nets say no because they'd probably want a better/future pick or multiple bad firsts.

That's probably the best Herro could fetch from a 3rd team though.

[TheNetsFan]

Who says no this this?

Heat: DFS + Dinwiddie

Nets: Bruce Brown + Dru Smith (filler to be waived) + 24 FRP via LA Clippers

Raptors: Tyler Herro + Caleb Martin

Probably the Nets say no because they'd probably want a better/future pick or multiple bad firsts.

That's probably the best Herro could fetch from a 3rd team though.

Brooklyn and Toronto say no.

[vincecarter4pres]

Who says no this this?

Heat: DFS + Dinwiddie

Nets: Bruce Brown + Dru Smith (filler to be waived) + 24 FRP via LA Clippers

Raptors: Tyler Herro + Caleb Martin

Probably the Nets say no because they'd probably want a better/future pick or multiple bad firsts.

That's probably the best Herro could fetch from a 3rd team though.

Brooklyn and Toronto say no.

Idk, not the worst move in the world. Going to be pleasantly surprised if DFS brings back a good player and a first.

[TheNetsFan]

Who says no this this?

Heat: DFS + Dinwiddie

Nets: Bruce Brown + Dru Smith (filler to be waived) + 24 FRP via LA Clippers

Raptors: Tyler Herro + Caleb Martin

Probably the Nets say no because they'd probably want a better/future pick or multiple bad firsts.

That's probably the best Herro could fetch from a 3rd team though.

Brooklyn and Toronto say no.

Idk, not the worst move in the world. Going to be pleasantly surprised if DFS brings back a good player and a first.

Why do people want Herro? We have a younger, cheaper version in Thomas already. You can't play both together. Miami is going through the same stuff we are: Asking him to be more catch and shoot off ball, and possibly come off the bench, because they're better when he's not with the starters. Why add another player like that at big money?

[vincecarter4pres]

Brooklyn and Toronto say no.

Idk, not the worst move in the world. Going to be pleasantly surprised if DFS brings back a good player and a first.

Why do people want Herro? We have a younger, cheaper version in Thomas already. You can't play both together. Miami is going through the same stuff we are: Asking him to be more catch and shoot off ball, and possibly come off the bench, because they're better when he's not with the starters. Why add another player like that at big money?

In this proposed deal we’d get into the ‘24 draft with a 1st round pick and Bruce Brown.

[Tha King]

Brooklyn and Toronto say no.

Idk, not the worst move in the world. Going to be pleasantly surprised if DFS brings back a good player and a first.

Why do people want Herro? We have a younger, cheaper version in Thomas already. You can't play both together. Miami is going through the same stuff we are: Asking him to be more catch and shoot off ball, and possibly come off the bench, because they're better when he's not with the starters. Why add another player like that at big money?

there is some redundancy with Rozier and Herro but Herro and Thomas are not really comparable. Herro can pass and I think there is a chance he can become a lead guard. His contract might look off at the moment but if you think he can be close to an all star caliber guard the next few years it turns into a pretty good deal with a rising cap.

[TheNetsFan]

In other Nets news, rival executives who’ve spoken with HoopsHype believe Brooklyn could potentially garner multiple second-round picks in exchange for Royce O’Neale. Those same executives believe Brooklyn could garner a first-round pick and a rotation player for Dorian Finney-Smith should the Nets move the coveted veterans.

https://hoopshype.com/lists/nba-trade-deadline-rumors-knicks-clippers-jazz-rockets-hawks-nets-wizards/

This smells like the rumored Lakers offer that's not good enough for Murray, but might be good enough for DFS (DLo+JHS+1st for DFS+DSJ).

[Netaman]

Who says no this this?

Heat: DFS + Dinwiddie

Nets: Bruce Brown + Dru Smith (filler to be waived) + 24 FRP via LA Clippers

Raptors: Tyler Herro + Caleb Martin

Probably the Nets say no because they'd probably want a better/future pick or multiple bad firsts.

That's probably the best Herro could fetch from a 3rd team though.

nets say yes easily.

herro teams are tough to predict because they have to be willing to take on the contract. teams are a lot more reluctant to take on long term money than fans are. and the raptors just took on long term money with RJ Barrett, and presumably with Quickley too.

so my guess is Raps say no to a 3rd big $ guard with similar skillset to the 2 they already have.

[Netaman]

In other Nets news, rival executives who’ve spoken with HoopsHype believe Brooklyn could potentially garner multiple second-round picks in exchange for Royce O’Neale. Those same executives believe Brooklyn could garner a first-round pick and a rotation player for Dorian Finney-Smith should the Nets move the coveted veterans.

https://hoopshype.com/lists/nba-trade-deadline-rumors-knicks-clippers-jazz-rockets-hawks-nets-wizards/

This smells like the rumored Lakers offer that's not good enough for Murray, but might be good enough for DFS (DLo+JHS+1st for DFS+DSJ).

i think the lakers are more likely for royce than dfs. i dont see them using all their ammo and basically their last tradeable FRP for just dfs.

JHS + filler for Royce could make sense for both sides though. it's unlikely JHS will help Lebron much in these next couple years but Royce could.

[3pt_chucker]

Who says no this this?

Heat: DFS + Dinwiddie

Nets: Bruce Brown + Dru Smith (filler to be waived) + 24 FRP via LA Clippers

Raptors: Tyler Herro + Caleb Martin

Probably the Nets say no because they'd probably want a better/future pick or multiple bad firsts.

That's probably the best Herro could fetch from a 3rd team though.

nets say yes easily.

herro teams are tough to predict because they have to be willing to take on the contract. teams are a lot more reluctant to take on long term money than fans are. and the raptors just took on long term money with RJ Barrett, and presumably with Quickley too.

so my guess is Raps say no to a 3rd big $ guard with similar skill set to the 2 they already have.

True, paying IQ, RJ, and Herro is def not palatable for Toronto. That said of the 3, Herro is such a cleaner fit next to Barnes and would be nice to build around if Knicks trade didn't happen. IQ-Herro-RJ-Barnes-Poeltl is an expensive roster that is play in at best.

[Netaman]

in case we needed a reminder why they need to consider upgrading dinwiddie with someone who can actually deliver as a lead guard in crunch time regardless of whatever they get out of ben10 going forward.

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[Netaman]

Who says no this this?

Heat: DFS + Dinwiddie

Nets: Bruce Brown + Dru Smith (filler to be waived) + 24 FRP via LA Clippers

Raptors: Tyler Herro + Caleb Martin

Probably the Nets say no because they'd probably want a better/future pick or multiple bad firsts.

That's probably the best Herro could fetch from a 3rd team though.

nets say yes easily.

herro teams are tough to predict because they have to be willing to take on the contract. teams are a lot more reluctant to take on long term money than fans are. and the raptors just took on long term money with RJ Barrett, and presumably with Quickley too.

so my guess is Raps say no to a 3rd big $ guard with similar skill set to the 2 they already have.

True, paying IQ, RJ, and Herro is def not palatable for Toronto. That said of the 3, Herro is such a cleaner fit next to Barnes and would be nice to build around if Knicks trade didn't happen. IQ-Herro-RJ-Barnes-Poeltl is an expensive roster that is play in at best.

yeah if the heat move off herro, i think the nets are probably the most likely team to happily take him back.

whoever said he isn't a fit with CamT is correct - but at this point we don't know what CamT is. He hasnt locked down a role yet. I dont think you pass on a guy like Herro just to give CamT more of a chance to earn a role. he's a better all around version of CamT that's only 2 years older. He'd be their best close out player the second his plane touches down.

Herro fits next to Ben, Clax, and Bridges better than CamT has because he's the better shooter and more efficient scorer. starting him at PG without Ben10 would be non-ideal, but starting Dinwiddie at PG has been even more non-ideal.

[Netaman]

some notable comments from windhorst yesterday - DFS to Mavs for a 1st and salary dumped Holmes feels like something that could be good for both sides. Holmes could be a S&T piece over the summer as an expiring.

i think the nets are going to be motivated to move dinwiddie because he has sucked, but where and for who if not murray/dlo (or herro, who may not be avail)?
https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/insider/story/_/id/39363413/player-most-likely-traded-all-30-teams

I put Brogdon on the list below because I think most contenders with limited FRPs to trade would have interest in him as opposed to the bigger commitment to Murray. would imagine that price is similar to the rozier price.

Atlanta Hawks
Most likely to be traded: Dejounte Murray

Trading for Murray in 2022 hasn't worked out as hoped for Atlanta. The Hawks potentially have an expensive roster, are out several first-rounders going forward and, worst of all, are underachieving.

Murray has been available for a month, but it shouldn't be assumed Atlanta will trade him. If it gets an acceptable offer, it most likely will be for draft compensation.

Brooklyn Nets
Most likely to be traded: Spencer Dinwiddie

The Nets entered the trade season looking like they could be buyers. But a 5-12 record since Christmas Day has weakened their outlook, and now they're looking at all options. They have seven tradable first-rounders, which makes anything possible, but they could also end up being a part of a three-team deal that saves major assets for the future.

If they do make a deal, it would likely be for a guard -- former Nets All-Star D'Angelo Russell has been among those names floated. With an expiring $20.3 million deal, Dinwiddie is the likely fulcrum in any big move before the deadline.

Dallas Mavericks
Most likely to be traded: Richaun Holmes

Holmes isn't playing regularly and could be combined with draft capital to find an upgrade. But his $12 million player option for next season is a stumbling block. The Mavericks have a $5 million trade exception but are only $3 million below tax -- it would probably take something special for them to dip into it.

Los Angeles Lakers
Most likely to be traded: D'Angelo Russell

Russell waived his right to veto trades as part of his deal last summer. Clearly, the Lakers viewed him as a possible trade option back then and his $17 million deal fits into that mode. Russell has been linked in talks over a potential deal for Murray, but Russell also just had his best three weeks of the season.

Portland Trail Blazers
Most likely to be traded: Malcolm Brogdon

A valuable scoring guard who can start or come off the bench, Brogdon is one of the most talented players on the trade market. He has one year at $22.5 million left on his deal so the Blazers -- amid a youth movement -- could wait until summer if they don't have an enticing offer.

[3pt_chucker]

Nets should not be taking on Holmes contract, especially if they plan on re-signing Clax. A 3rd team would need to be involved, which good luck finding a partner.

Dinwiddie $20M salary makes him really hard to fit on a contender, since those teams need to find matching salary that Nets would actually want to take on(aka not long term money). Hope fans are ready for the reality that Din is here till end of season.

[vincecarter4pres]

in case we needed a reminder why they need to consider upgrading dinwiddie with someone who can actually deliver as a lead guard in crunch time regardless of whatever they get out of ben10 going forward.

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Lol fool me once plus one thousand seventeen times infinity.

[vincecarter4pres]

Wait, Russell has a NTC? Wow.

[Sharcm1]

Nets should have taken back the picks from Houston for bridges. We aren’t good and those picks will be lottery. The Celtics got Tatum from our picks.

[TheNetsFan]

Wait, Russell has a NTC? Wow.

No.

[vincecarter4pres]

Wait, Russell has a NTC? Wow.

No.

It said he can veto any trade though.

[JKiddy]

Nets should have taken back the picks from Houston for bridges. We aren’t good and those picks will be lottery. The Celtics got Tatum from our picks.

Think this through.

So you want to take junk and picks that likely won't be revolutionary at the chance we get a player like Bridges or better when we have Bridges right now?

Most draft picks unless they are surefire do not pan out as well as you think. It is more of a crapshoot than you realize.

We already have massively valuable picks from DAL, PHX, and PHI. What would be the point here? This season it is obvious we cannot tank hard enough even with our pick to get the 1st pick (more than likely not).

So, please think this one through.