***Official 2021-22 Offseason Thread***

[IceManBK1]

Nets should just trade Irving and Joe Harris to Pacers for Haliburton, Hield and Turner and keep Durant. And maybe get one or two 1st rders in return as well.

Haliburton
Hield
Simmons
Durant
Turner

Is a well oiled machine for the type of offense the Nets run. Using Simmons as the drive and kick person. Spacing will be amazing.

And why would the Pacers even consider this?

They are rumored to sign ayton to an offer sheet so they don't need myles Turner anymore. And irving/ayton 1-2 punch can help Pacers contend for playoffs.

[GTR11]

We really need to fire Nash... this is insane... at what point is this enough? the influence or how deep Nash goes in with Tsai is probably preventing this.

Nice trade rec IcemanBk1... that's a fun squad to come away with.

Last year Bob wrote an article about it. They share same investments in multiple sport/tech etc industries. Both spend time golfing during off-season in Hamptons. Both Canadians, families pretty close too. Than he finished that piece with quote " better friendships ended for lack of success ".

This horrible assistant crew starting with Vaughn. This bum ass been here since forever and only had one job interview, they never called back and no one doing it either. If not for Kenny, he wouldn't even had an interview. Kokoskov been in the league nearly 20 years as an assistant. Had a shot as a HC with PHX, they canned his ass right after season ended. I mean look them up, calling them trash will be nice way to put it. This is disaster written all over it.

You can overcome Kyrie and his shenanigans to a degree with system in place. You will never overcome Kyrie and Steve Trash as a HC.

This is my last rant here. I became numb to this team right now. I will just sit back and watch what's happening from the side. Will be more invested watching and dreaming about Ingram and Jones in BK unis.

[Netaman]

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this feels very much to me like where things have been building. there's not a bigger offer than Phoenix coming in unless Toronto or NO swoop in last minute, so no it's push comes to shove.

take the Ayton/Bridges/Cam offer or hope a better young asset that's not on a rookie extension becomes available later. I'm taking the deal.

this works pretty easily btw folding in Lakers (Kyrie) and Pacers (Westbrook). Nets get hard capped but without KD I don't think that matters for this year since it may not be the worst semi-tank year to actually get a mid to late lotto pick.
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[MoneyMo]

Nets should just trade Irving and Joe Harris to Pacers for Haliburton, Hield and Turner and keep Durant. And maybe get one or two 1st rders in return as well.

Haliburton
Hield
Simmons
Durant
Turner

Is a well oiled machine for the type of offense the Nets run. Using Simmons as the drive and kick person. Spacing will be amazing.

And why would the Pacers even consider this?

They are rumored to sign ayton to an offer sheet so they don't need myles Turner anymore. And irving/ayton 1-2 punch can help Pacers contend for playoffs.

Haliburton is the Pacers future and they would never trade him in a deal for Kyrie under any circumstances let alone one where they are also giving up 1st rounders. Additionally, Kyrie would never resign in Indiana if he were somehow traded there so they wouldn't give up valuable assets for him.

[Hello Brooklyn]

I don't care how badly Kyrie wants to go to the Lakers.

I'm not taking Westrbrick.

Kyrie chose to opt in like an idiot. His fault. Nobody forced him to do that.

[Hello Brooklyn]

The Suns can go kick rocks.

I'm not taking stupid Deandre Ayton for 30 million a year. Overpaid. And he doesn't fit with Simmons at all.

Durant can **** off with his demand to go to the Suns.

Boston or New Orleans. Thats it.

I don't even want Barnes anymore. Kid is overrated as ****.

[MrDollarBills]

If KD didn't live in his wealth generated isolated bubble of yes men, he would be humbled by the fact that no one around the league is willing to trade anything of substantial value for him.

But it won't, because to a toxic personality like his, it's everyone else's fault around him and not his own, because he's Kevin Durant, and he's been built up to be infallible.

It will probably grind his gears when he gets the message relayed to him from the front office to either show up for work in September or you won't get paid.

Personally, if we can get a consistent perimeter scorer out of this mess, I would gladly send him packing to Phoenix so that he can derail the Suns, get Monty Williams fired, clash with CP3, and realizes that Robert Sarver is a POS owner. Because that's how things will play out.

Remember, Golden State only dealt with issues and toxic stuff when KD was there. You've never seen Draymond blow up at Steph or Klay like he did KD.

People are on twitter calling Joe Tsai cheap and blaming Marks, but in reality the person who is always the constant in these situations, from OKC, to Golden State, to Brooklyn has been Kevin Durant. Same thing with Kyrie. Both of them are cancers, Kyrie moreso. But toxic is toxic.

Moving on from both of these guys in a retool effort will be a blessing for this franchise.

[Hello Brooklyn]

If KD didn't live in his wealth generated isolated bubble of yes men, he would be humbled by the fact that no one around the league is willing to trade anything of substantial value for him.

But it won't, because to a toxic personality like his, it's everyone else's fault around him and not his own, because he's Kevin Durant, and he's been built up to be infallible.

It will probably grind his gears when he gets the message relayed to him from the front office to either show up for work in September or you won't get paid.

Personally, if we can get a consistent perimeter scorer out of this mess, I would gladly send him packing to Phoenix so that he can derail the Suns, get Monty Williams fired, clash with CP3, and realizes that Robert Sarver is a POS owner. Because that's how things will play out.

Remember, Golden State only dealt with issues and toxic stuff when KD was there. You've never seen Draymond blow up at Steph or Klay like he did KD.

People are on twitter calling Joe Tsai cheap and blaming Marks, but in reality the person who is always the constant in these situations, from OKC, to Golden State, to Brooklyn has been Kevin Durant. Same thing with Kyrie. Both of them are cancers, Kyrie moreso. But toxic is toxic.

Moving on from both of these guys in a retool effort will be a blessing for this franchise.

KD has proven to be as toxic as Kyrie.

An all time head case.

Spends all his time searching Twitter seeking validation. I used to defend it. But now I realize why he does it.

Its the whole reason he left GS in the first place. He was butthurt the Twitter eggs said he didn't earn his titles. Now hes doing it again with the Nets cause hes butthrut about the Twitter slander after the Warriors won.

Not only that but he does nothing to help the chemistry or be a leader. What other great all time player does that?

Enabling a psycho for 3 years straight? Nobody else would tolerate Kyrie behaving like this and enabling him every step of the way.

We were only good with Harden because he at least know hows to be a leader. Even if hes fat and a quitter. Guy at least does the minimum.

This guy will never win **** in Phoenix, Toronto or wherever the hell he goes. All time nutcase and waste of talent. **** him.

[GTR11]

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Marks should kick tires here to see what's good. If he still somewhat mobile, he can help.

[MrDollarBills]

If KD didn't live in his wealth generated isolated bubble of yes men, he would be humbled by the fact that no one around the league is willing to trade anything of substantial value for him.

But it won't, because to a toxic personality like his, it's everyone else's fault around him and not his own, because he's Kevin Durant, and he's been built up to be infallible.

It will probably grind his gears when he gets the message relayed to him from the front office to either show up for work in September or you won't get paid.

Personally, if we can get a consistent perimeter scorer out of this mess, I would gladly send him packing to Phoenix so that he can derail the Suns, get Monty Williams fired, clash with CP3, and realizes that Robert Sarver is a POS owner. Because that's how things will play out.

Remember, Golden State only dealt with issues and toxic stuff when KD was there. You've never seen Draymond blow up at Steph or Klay like he did KD.

People are on twitter calling Joe Tsai cheap and blaming Marks, but in reality the person who is always the constant in these situations, from OKC, to Golden State, to Brooklyn has been Kevin Durant. Same thing with Kyrie. Both of them are cancers, Kyrie moreso. But toxic is toxic.

Moving on from both of these guys in a retool effort will be a blessing for this franchise.

KD has proven to be as toxic as Kyrie.

An all time head case.

Spends all his time searching Twitter seeking validation. I used to defend it. But now I realize why he does it.

Its the whole reason he left GS in the first place. He was butthurt the Twitter eggs said he didn't earn his titles. Now hes doing it again with the Nets cause hes butthrut about the Twitter slander after the Warriors won.

Not only that but he does nothing to help the chemistry or be a leader. What other great all time player does that?

Enabling a psycho for 3 years straight? Nobody else would tolerate Kyrie behaving like this and enabling him every step of the way.

We were only good with Harden because he at least know hows to be a leader. Even if hes fat and a quitter. Guy at least does the minimum.

This guy will never win **** in Phoenix, Toronto or wherever the hell he goes. All time nutcase and waste of talent. **** him.

Yep. Golden State not only winning without him, but beating the team that utterly dismantled Durant and swept him, triggered him.

It is what it is. I just wish we could get an all star piece for him, but his value is so sh*t right now its not happening, at least not at this time.

The worst part is, this team is absolutely poised to be one of the best in the league from a talent and fit standpoint and he's too stupid to even see it.

[MrDollarBills]

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Marks should kick tires here to see what's good. If he still somewhat mobile, he can help.

Absolutely. If he's still able to go (his situation was awful) he would be a perfect fit. Big physical body that can hit the 3.

[gigantes]

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Marks should kick tires here to see what's good. If he still somewhat mobile, he can help.

Absolutely. If he's still able to go (his situation was awful) he would be a perfect fit. Big physical body that can hit the 3.

Holy shizzle-flump, I forgot all about that awful thing.

Yeah, why not give him a shot, with Drummond going to CHI, leaving us Clax and Sharpe for what is so far presumably a ring-chasing team, no? (wait, what's going on with Aldridge, exactly? Nvm, Nash just won't play him)


Btw, I understand O'Neale likely bumped out Bruce Brown, but man... what an awesome warrior Bruce was for us... able to handle such a crazy range of assignments up to small-ball centers, but also becoming distinctively better each season across a variety of ways, even with the long ball.

&^%@!#$ we've lost so many great young diamonds in the rough because of fluffing KI&KD's greed and stupidity. I can't believe I'm still a fan sometimes, because this team... bah

[JoseRizal]

Looks like we're not getting the deals we want.

I've always hoped for the following to acquire in a KD trade:
1. Jaylen Brown plus picks
2. Brandon Ingram plus picks

I will definitely not take the Raptors offer w/o Barnes. I'm not high on Siakam.

So, worse case scenario, I'm down with Phoenix's package of

1. Ayton - very young at 23, double-double nightly, developing 3 pointer (37% last season)
2. Bridges - 25yo, All-Defensive 1st team (like Simmons), respectable 3 pointer (37% last season)
3. Johnson - still young at 26, stretch 4 (42.5% 3pt pct. last season)
4. 5 FRPs and 4 pick swaps - will be valuable once CP3 & KD declines

I understand that this is way low than our expected return, but with KD screwing things up for us by limiting his trade destination wish list, it lessens our leverage to trade him to other teams.

At the end of the day, if push comes to shove, I'll walk away with the Suns' package with hope that everything turns out well for us.

[MrDollarBills]

Looks like we're not getting the deals we want.

I've always hoped for the following to acquire in a KD trade:
1. Jaylen Brown plus picks
2. Brandon Ingram plus picks

I will definitely not take the Raptors offer w/o Barnes. I'm not high on Siakam.

So, worse case scenario, I'm down with Phoenix's package of

1. Ayton - very young at 23, double-double nightly, developing 3 pointer (37% last season)
2. Bridges - 25yo, All-Defensive 1st team (like Simmons), respectable 3 pointer (37% last season)
3. Johnson - still young at 26, stretch 4 (42.5% 3pt pct. last season)
4. 5 FRPs and 4 pick swaps - will be valuable once CP3 & KD declines

I understand that this is way low than our expected return, but with KD screwing things up for us by limiting his trade destination wish list, it lessens our leverage to trade him to other teams.

At the end of the day, if push comes to shove, I'll walk away with the Suns' package with hope that everything turns out well for us.

My concern is that we don't have a perimeter scorer to go along with Ayton inside. Literally the only guy that can create for himself on the perimeter if we make that Phoenix deal is Cam. That's a disaster.

[JoseRizal]

Looks like we're not getting the deals we want.

I've always hoped for the following to acquire in a KD trade:
1. Jaylen Brown plus picks
2. Brandon Ingram plus picks

I will definitely not take the Raptors offer w/o Barnes. I'm not high on Siakam.

So, worse case scenario, I'm down with Phoenix's package of

1. Ayton - very young at 23, double-double nightly, developing 3 pointer (37% last season)
2. Bridges - 25yo, All-Defensive 1st team (like Simmons), respectable 3 pointer (37% last season)
3. Johnson - still young at 26, stretch 4 (42.5% 3pt pct. last season)
4. 5 FRPs and 4 pick swaps - will be valuable once CP3 & KD declines

I understand that this is way low than our expected return, but with KD screwing things up for us by limiting his trade destination wish list, it lessens our leverage to trade him to other teams.

At the end of the day, if push comes to shove, I'll walk away with the Suns' package with hope that everything turns out well for us.

My concern is that we don't have a perimeter scorer to go along with Ayton inside. Literally the only guy that can create for himself on the perimeter if we make that Phoenix deal is Cam. That's a disaster.

Agree. But there are only a handful of perimeter scorers who's young (current or future All-stars), and most of them can't be had without trading Ben who's current trade value is an all-time low.

I'm just hoping that we can still add pieces after that trade to be somewhat a respectable team. Like it or not, once KD & Kyrie leaves, we're not contending anyway. Then, we just need to focus on rebuilding and hope that the pics that we get will equate to something substantial.

[bwgood77]

At this point I don't even really want KD on the Suns, but that obviously doesn't mean the Suns don't want him.

Question for you? Do you think the Nets would have any interest in Myles Turner? The rumor now is the Pacers are going to go after Ayton and could sign him to an offer sheet but typically they will try to work out a S&T to avoid a match (like they did with Brogdon) so they would likely send Turner. Some speculate maybe Hield in a bigger deal.

You think the Nets would have interest in Turner? Might be a better fit with Simmons since he is more of a stretch 5. I agree him plus Bridges and Cam probably isn't a great deal....but just curious on Turner thoughts.

[Hello Brooklyn]

At this point I don't even really want KD on the Suns, but that obviously doesn't mean the Suns don't want him.

Question for you? Do you think the Nets would have any interest in Myles Turner? The rumor now is the Pacers are going to go after Ayton and could sign him to an offer sheet but typically they will try to work out a S&T to avoid a match (like they did with Brogdon) so they would likely send Turner. Some speculate maybe Hield in a bigger deal.

You think the Nets would have interest in Turner? Might be a better fit with Simmons since he is more of a stretch 5. I agree him plus Bridges and Cam probably isn't a great deal....but just curious on Turner thoughts.

No we don't want Turner.

Looks like we will have a resolution on this soon now.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Scoop B is basically reporting Kyrie will sign an extension on July 10th.

No idea if he has any credibility but would be crazy if it happens.

[bwgood77]

At this point I don't even really want KD on the Suns, but that obviously doesn't mean the Suns don't want him.

Question for you? Do you think the Nets would have any interest in Myles Turner? The rumor now is the Pacers are going to go after Ayton and could sign him to an offer sheet but typically they will try to work out a S&T to avoid a match (like they did with Brogdon) so they would likely send Turner. Some speculate maybe Hield in a bigger deal.

You think the Nets would have interest in Turner? Might be a better fit with Simmons since he is more of a stretch 5. I agree him plus Bridges and Cam probably isn't a great deal....but just curious on Turner thoughts.

No we don't want Turner.

Looks like we will have a resolution on this soon now.

Why is that? Not the Turner part but the resolution soon? With what team?

[JoseRizal]

At this point I don't even really want KD on the Suns, but that obviously doesn't mean the Suns don't want him.

Question for you? Do you think the Nets would have any interest in Myles Turner? The rumor now is the Pacers are going to go after Ayton and could sign him to an offer sheet but typically they will try to work out a S&T to avoid a match (like they did with Brogdon) so they would likely send Turner. Some speculate maybe Hield in a bigger deal.

You think the Nets would have interest in Turner? Might be a better fit with Simmons since he is more of a stretch 5. I agree him plus Bridges and Cam probably isn't a great deal....but just curious on Turner thoughts.

IMO, Turner would've been the perfect 5 to play alongside KD, Kyrie & Ben. However, with our stars leaving, Ayton would make more sense as a consolation prize due to him being 2 years younger. The only thing holding us back is his max extension request. But that's just me.