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Re: Official Current Affairs & Politics thread 

Post#1441 » by Rich Rane » Thu Aug 23, 2018 5:42 am

13th Man wrote:I will wait to get official ruling on his immigration status but it does not change the fact how horrible of an act he commtted.


This is absolutely hilarious because you didn't wait at all. You pounced on this as soon as Trump and every conservative news outlet brought this up as a distraction to his former campaign manager and lawyer's crimes. You are absolutely prone to being manipulated by Trump and alt-right sources.
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Re: Official Current Affairs & Politics thread 

Post#1442 » by TinmanZBoy » Thu Aug 23, 2018 5:45 am

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Rich Rane wrote:As a board mod and a human being, I have no problem with 13th Man expressing his opinions on a political thread. I also have no problem with any other poster expressing their opinions on 13th Man's opinions.


At first I thought this was cool, but then the end result is that you just gave free reign for this ass hole to spew a bunch of racist, anti black bull **** on here. I'm not going to sit here, be a member of this forum and read garbage that insinuates that the reason why people who look like me should be shot dead is because a minority of the overall black population engages in crime, just like the rest of every racial/ethnic grouping in society. Nope.

that isn't your fault because you gave this prick the benefit of a doubt, but all it led to was him not even attempting to refute any points being made and him just spouting racist, alt right garbage (which is his typical behavior pattern). So I'm just going to curse the racist piece of **** mother **** er out from here on out *shrugs*


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Re: Official Current Affairs & Politics thread 

Post#1443 » by 13th Man » Thu Aug 23, 2018 5:51 am

Rich Rane wrote:You have the same socially political views as neo-Nazis and the KKK. Pretty sure that qualifies.


Sorry but I don't see it that way. It's sad that you guys see all Republican supporters as neo-Nazis and KKKs. I'm sorry but I can't help you with that. If you can't shake that off, then that's not my problem, that's America's problem.

I've posted mountains of articles to suggest that I am more anti-left than anything. Why even have different political groups if you can only accept the views of one? Why even have a political forum if its nothing but a circle-jerk of one political view, then slander anyone that doesn't share your views as a racist?

You support someone who's had documented incidents of racism since the 1970s. And the other side of that is not supporting someone who's had documented incidents of racism since the 1970s. Pretty sure you don't have a leg up on the morals side here.


I don't even know what you're talking about. I follow what Trump is doing right which is a lot of MAGA'ing.

Please tell us how you also beat Gretzky one-on-one and turned down a starting spot with the Raptors because Toronto is too liberal.


I have a lot of life experience and have been through a lot. I am a fighter and this is why I have little sympathy for people that blame society for everything.
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Re: Official Current Affairs & Politics thread 

Post#1444 » by 13th Man » Thu Aug 23, 2018 5:53 am

Rich Rane wrote:
13th Man wrote:I will wait to get official ruling on his immigration status but it does not change the fact how horrible of an act he commtted.


This is absolutely hilarious because you didn't wait at all. You pounced on this as soon as Trump and every conservative news outlet brought this up as a distraction to his former campaign manager and lawyer's crimes. You are absolutely prone to being manipulated by Trump and alt-right sources.


So what? We are all guilty of this, it's called the news. They are supposed to be reporting accurate facts, sometimes they get it wrong.

I'd rather that they get it wrong unintentionally than intentionally report it wrong or hide facts to satisfy an agenda.
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Re: Official Current Affairs & Politics thread 

Post#1445 » by Rich Rane » Thu Aug 23, 2018 5:57 am

13th Man wrote:Sorry but I don't see it that way. It's sad that you guys see all Republican supporters as neo-Nazis and KKKs. I'm sorry but I can't help you with that. If you can't shake that off, then that's not my problem, that's America's problem.

I've posted mountains of articles to suggest that I am more anti-left than anything. Why even have different political groups if you can only accept the views of one? Why even have a political forum if its nothing but a circle-jerk of one political view, then slander anyone that doesn't share your views as a racist?


You support a racist leader or you don't. How is this a dilemma to you for someone who claims he's not racist?

I don't even know what you're talking about.


Of course you don't. We all know the likes of where you get your news from.

I follow what Trump is doing right which is a lot of MAGA'ing.


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Re: Official Current Affairs & Politics thread 

Post#1446 » by Rich Rane » Thu Aug 23, 2018 5:58 am

13th Man wrote:So what? We are all guilty of this, it's called the news. They are supposed to be reporting accurate facts, sometimes they get it wrong.

I'd rather that then get it wrong unintentionally than intentionally report it wrong to satisfy an agenda.


Trump literally only grants interviews with conservative outlets. How is what they're doing not trying to satisfy an agenda?
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Post#1447 » by 13th Man » Thu Aug 23, 2018 6:06 am

Rich Rane wrote:You support a racist leader or you don't. How is this a dilemma to you for someone who claims he's not racist?


A racist leader who has helped to make unemployment rates at historic lows all across the board? He is making your economy better, why not focus on the good things that he has helped for your country?

I don't appreciate you guys forcing your views onto me. I'm afraid that this is turning into a virtual Antifa where you guys resort to violence for anyone that opposes your views. It has already happened, when Mr. Archive said I would be in jail if I were to express my views in real life. How so? In a democratic society, if I said that I supported Trump I would be thrown in jail or physically harmed? Wow. Like I've been saying over and over here, who is the real Antifa? Trump supporters or the tolerant left?

Ftr, my girlfriend is left leaning and she knows that I support Trump. We get into political debates from time to time and it turns out fine because at the end of the day we respect individual thought as long as they are not harmful to one another. My views have never caused any harm to anybody.

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Post#1448 » by 13th Man » Thu Aug 23, 2018 6:07 am

Rich Rane wrote:
13th Man wrote:So what? We are all guilty of this, it's called the news. They are supposed to be reporting accurate facts, sometimes they get it wrong.

I'd rather that then get it wrong unintentionally than intentionally report it wrong to satisfy an agenda.


Trump literally only grants interviews with conservative outlets. How is what they're doing not trying to satisfy an agenda?


That's his perrogative. Maybe he doesn't want to play into the hands of fake news?
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Re: Official Current Affairs & Politics thread 

Post#1449 » by bondom34 » Thu Aug 23, 2018 6:10 am

Sorry to intervene but had to just say sometimes I lurk these threads and my eyes are opened to some things that people believe. This is one of those times.
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Post#1450 » by TinmanZBoy » Thu Aug 23, 2018 6:16 am

bondom34 wrote:Sorry to intervene but had to just say sometimes I[b] lurk these threads[/b] and my eyes are opened to some things that people believe. This is one of those times.


me too... just wrote down some lines, got labeled and trashed... :lol: what a time... be back lurking...
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Re: Official Current Affairs & Politics thread 

Post#1451 » by bondom34 » Thu Aug 23, 2018 6:17 am

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bondom34 wrote:Sorry to intervene but had to just say sometimes I[b] lurk these threads[/b] and my eyes are opened to some things that people believe. This is one of those times.


me too... just wrote down some lines, got labeled and trashed... :lol: what a time... be back lurking...

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Re: Official Current Affairs & Politics thread 

Post#1452 » by Rich Rane » Thu Aug 23, 2018 6:20 am

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Rich Rane wrote:You support a racist leader or you don't. How is this a dilemma to you for someone who claims he's not racist?


A racist leader who has helped to make unemployment rates at historic lows all across the board? He is making your economy better, why not focus on the good things that he has helped for your country?


Our allies hate us and we're a joke on the international stage. Wages at home are either lower or at best stagnant during Trump's time in office. His trade wars at the price of benefiting a few are much more harmful to others. His Presidency has only fueled hate crimes since he took office.

I don't appreciate you guys forcing your views onto me. I'm afraid that this is turning into a virtual Antifa where you guys resort to violence for anyone that opposes your views. It has already happened, when Mr. Archive said I would be in jail if I were to express my views in real life. How so? In a democratic society, if I said that I supported Trump I would be thrown in jail or physically hurt? Wow. Like I've been saying over and over here, who is the real Antifa? Trump supporters or the tolerant left?


Pretty sure MDB said he'd be thrown in jail if he was around you. You'd be free to express your opinions here and not get persecuted by the government. The consequences of putting your racist views out in the open are on you. Enough with the Antifa dog whistle and playing victim.

Ftr, my girlfriend is left leaning and she knows that I support Trump. We get into political debates from time to time and it turns out fine because at the end of the day we respect individual thought as long as they are not harmful to one another. My views have never caused any harm to anybody.


You share the same views as the KKK and neo-Nazis. They have caused harm in this country.

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Thanks, they do. They really do.

13th Man wrote:That's his perrogative. Maybe he doesn't want to play into the hands of fake news?


And another buzz word with "fake news". Here's a lesson, sonny. Fake news isn't news that you don't like.
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Re: Official Current Affairs & Politics thread 

Post#1453 » by 13th Man » Thu Aug 23, 2018 6:36 am

Rich Rane wrote:Our allies hate us and we're a joke on the international stage. Wages at home are either lower or at best stagnant during Trump's time in office. His trade wars at the price of benefiting a few are much more harmful to others. His Presidency has only fueled hate crimes since he took office.


That is his MO. Trump doesn't care about what other countries think of him, his main goal is to make America great again and that is what he is doing. You guys voted him into office and he's been consistent in delivering what he has promised. Don't like it? Vote him out the next election.

Pretty sure MDB said he'd be thrown in jail if he was around you. You'd be free to express your opinions here and not get persecuted by the government. The consequences of putting your racist views out in the open are on you. Enough with the Antifa dog whistle and playing victim.


You're right, my archiving skills is not up to par. So he would end up in jail by inflicting harm onto me I guess? For exposing a view that supports Trump? Ok....??? so basically no different than what ANTIFA members are doing right now??

You share the same views as the KKK and neo-Nazis. They have caused harm in this country.


So this automatically translates into me causing harm to your country as well? *scratching my head*. I don't even care what their views are tbh. I side and trust the Republicans much more than I do the Dems. As you know I have no say in the matter anyhow since I'm not American. Do the KKK and neo-Nazis trash crooked Hillary as much as I do? I don't know and I don't care but you guys may know since you're more fixated on them than I am.


Thanks, they do. They really do.


I'm glad that you're able to bask in it. It's a discussion forum so all the power to you for expressing your thoughts.

And another buzz word with "fake news". Here's a lesson, sonny. Fake news isn't news that you don't like.


No, fake news is fake news. Did you know that CNN is one of the lowest rated networks when it comes to trustworthiness? Fox News is way up there ahead of most of the biased MSM networks.
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Post#1454 » by bondom34 » Thu Aug 23, 2018 6:42 am

Oh fine, one last post before leaving because it's clear and easy and that's not true.

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https://www.politifact.com/punditfact/tv/fox/

https://www.politifact.com/punditfact/tv/cnn/
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Re: Official Current Affairs & Politics thread 

Post#1455 » by 13th Man » Thu Aug 23, 2018 6:47 am

I was referring to this one: https://www.truthrevolt.org/news/rasmussen-poll-cnn-least-trusted-cable-news-network

Rasmussen Poll: CNN Least Trusted Cable News Network

A Rasmussen Poll published Wednesday declares that CNN is the least trusted news network on cable television, reports Politistick.
The new poll found that 75% of those polled watch at least some cable news (24% say they rarely or never watch cable news networks for politics). Out of that number, 42% watch Fox News, 35% CNN, and 19% MSNBC.

Fox News topped the poll as trusted by 50% of those polled. MSNBC is viewed as trusted by 43%. The Clinton News Network came in third in trustworthiness at 33%.

So much for “The Most Trusted Name in News.”

The older the voter, the more likely he or she is to watch cable news networks for politics. Older voters prefer Fox News, while those under 40 prefer to watch CNN.

The poll also found that among all voters, only 37% trust the political news they are getting, compared to 36% who do not. Twenty-six percent (26%) aren't sure.

Regarding election coverage, the poll revealed that
[c]able news networks were the number one source of news about the presidential campaign for 37% of voters. Twenty-two percent (22%) relied on internet news sites, while just as many (21%) turned to traditional TV networks news. Seven percent (7%) got most of their news about the campaign from social media. Five percent (5%) used radio, and four percent (4%) looked primarily at print newspapers. Voters were pretty critical of the news coverage they got this election cycle, particularly those who relied on social media.

Sixty-two percent (62%) of all voters say the media, not the candidates, set the agenda in the presidential campaign, and 74% believe the media was more interested in controversy than in the issues.
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Re: Official Current Affairs & Politics thread 

Post#1456 » by Rich Rane » Thu Aug 23, 2018 6:48 am

13th Man wrote:That is his MO. Trump doesn't care about what other countries think of him, his main goal is to make America great again and that is what he is doing. You guys voted him into office and he's been consistent in delivering what he has promised. Don't like it? Vote him out the next election.


I literally just gave you examples of how he's not making America great and you said that's his MO... :roll:

And no, for the record, we didn't vote him into office. Look at the popular vote tallies again.

You're right, my archiving skills is not up to par. So he would end up in jail by inflicting harm onto me I guess? For exposing a view that supports Trump? Ok....??? so basically no different than what ANTIFA members are doing right now??


MDB knows the consequences of beating someone up. Pretty sure you as a racist should too though I'm sure you do, you closet racist.

So this automatically translates into me causing harm to your country as well? *scratching my head*


Do you take pride in sharing the same views as neo-Nazis and the KKK?

No, fake news is fake news. Did you know that CNN is one of the lowest rated networks when it comes to trustworthiness? Fox News is way up there ahead of most of the biased MSM networks.


Breaking News: Fox News viewers more easily manipulated than CNN or MSNBC viewers. (shocked gasp)

By the way, great job blasting "mainstream media" and using Fox News in the same sentence, even though Fox News is well connected with the current Administration and constantly flaunts its TV ratings.

13th Man wrote:Rasmussen Poll: CNN Least Trusted Cable News Network


:lol: Rasmussen, an organization that still does its polling with landlines. Who do you think that skewers towards?
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Post#1457 » by bondom34 » Thu Aug 23, 2018 6:51 am

Also citing a conservative news source claiming non-conservative news sources aren't accurate is.....I'll kindly say biased. From the David Horowitz freedom center lol
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Post#1458 » by Rich Rane » Thu Aug 23, 2018 6:53 am

And on that note, let's give this thread a short break. Probably reopen in three hours when Trump tweets during his morning dump.
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Post#1459 » by Prokorov » Thu Aug 23, 2018 2:14 pm

13th Man wrote:Trump says that the money to fund his triste came from him and not from the campaign fund. This interview will be aired tomorrow on Fox. So a billionaire businessman paid off a hooker with his own funds, colour me shocked!


I thought that he didnt know about the payoffs? now he knows about them and admits to paying for it? and this guy isnt a bold faced liar according to you?

The Clintons used to scream that someone's personal matters is not an impeachable offense, the hypocrisy by the Democrats. [/quote[

Why do you keep bringing up the clintons. no one defends them here. what does this have to do with the trump discussion? we all agree the clintons are shady as hell

The topics that matter most to Americans are the economy and immigration. Both of these Trump has a strong grasp and stance on. The stuff that the left are attacking him on are total nonsense.


immigration sint really important to americans, its just used to rally the racist right wing side. what matters to americans is affordable healthcare,the economy/job creation, tax plans, and education.
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Post#1460 » by Prokorov » Thu Aug 23, 2018 2:18 pm

13th Man wrote:Then why do blacks account for roughly half of the crime numbers if they only account for 1/5 or 1/6 of whites? Oh yeah, because of systemic racism.


you finally get it! systemic racism is exactly it. when you have privitized jails with quotes to fill with inmates, cops hunting blacks, and backs 5 times more likely to be convicted of a crime compared to whites for the same offense how is that anything but systemic racism?

So you are going to choose to ignore your own source telling you unarmed blacks are more liekly to be killed?


When did i ignore that? unarmed blacks being more likely to be killed is a horrific tragedy and the biggest problem. Cops feel they can just kill any black man they want, even if they are unarmed, without a crime even taking place.

Anyway, I don't think you want to dive deeply into statistics when it comes to blacks and crime. I don't even want to go there because I know what would come out from it and the numbers wouldn't be pretty.


we have the numbers. we showed them to you. you refuse to look at them objectively and admit to massive systemic racism and corrupt racist cops.

you know why?

you are a giant racist.

you having a blakc friend doesnt change that. you helping/teaching black students doesnt change that

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