Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season

[DarkXaero]

The great Ian Eagle hinting at significant roster moves to be made.

[Nycnyc7188]

Caris LeVert

for

7th overall pick
Tony Snell

Who says no?

What?lmaoo caris levert is light years better than tony snell wtf lol people just want to trade levert just for the sake of trading him.lol im really not understanding people

[vincecarter4pres]

Caris LeVert

for

7th overall pick
Tony Snell

Who says no?

What?lmaoo caris levert is light years better than tony snell wtf lol people just want to trade levert just for the sake of trading him.lol im really not understanding people

Uuh... 7th overall pick?

Just an idea, but allows you to re-sign the better player in Dinwiddie and gives you a young salary controlled player to groom and grow, who could immediately contribute as well.

On paper it’s fair value imho as long as there’s a guy Marks loves in that area of the draft.

It’s the kind of smart, forward thinking move, progressive franchises do if they think their Kawhi v2.0 is there, or to flip the pick in a different trade for a team who wants a lotto pick instead of Caris for their guy.

Steph Curry and Jamal Murray have both gone 7th in the last 10 years, along with countless other stars in that 7 to 15 range. I’d trust Marks in the draft if he made a move like that.

[ProspectPark]

A path for us to move up in the draft and also acquire JJ Reddick:

So JJ Reddick is coming of another solid year.
60 games
26 mins
15 points 2 assists 2 rebounds
45.3% from deep on 6.6 attempts per game
90% free throw

Pelicans need a C. Trajan Langdon was here when we drafted Allen. There is a strong possibility Trajan Langdon will hire Kenny Atkinson to be their next coach. Allen fits perfectly with the Pelicans rebuild timeline.

There is no consensus in this draft. The players we want might be available at 19, or they might all be taken by 15. Is it worth trading Allen and our 19, for Reddick and their 13?

Potential trade:

Allen, Kurucs, Temple, and 19
For
Reddick and 13

DJ, Claxton, and KD can all play C. There’s also a lot of backup centers available in free agency that we could get for the vet minimum if we needed some depth at C.

What do you guys think?

[Nycnyc7188]

Caris LeVert

for

7th overall pick
Tony Snell

Who says no?

What?lmaoo caris levert is light years better than tony snell wtf lol people just want to trade levert just for the sake of trading him.lol im really not understanding people

Uuh... 7th overall pick?

Just an idea, but allows you to re-sign the better player in Dinwiddie and gives you a young salary controlled player to groom and grow, who could immediately contribute as well.

On paper it’s fair value imho as long as there’s a guy Marks loves in that area of the draft.

It’s the kind of smart, forward thinking move, progressive franchises do if they think their Kawhi v2.0 is there, or to flip the pick in a different trade for a team who wants a lotto pick instead of Caris for their guy.

Steph Curry and Jamal Murray have both gone 7th in the last 10 years, along with countless other stars in that 7 to 15 range. I’d trust Marks in the draft if he made a move like that.

Um no.this draft is super weak.and this is a dumb idea

[ecuhus1981]

An ostensibly "weak" draft is a poor reason for a good GM not to value picks, especially as our team faces long-term cap issues.

We traded Damian Lillard for 3 months of soon-to-be-UFA Gerald Wallace, because we said it was a "weak draft". Indiana traded Kawhi Leonard for a year of George Hill, because it was a "weak draft". Denver sold BOTH Rudy Gobert and DOnovan Mitchell to the Jazz, because they said those were "weak drafts".

I no longer think that we will trade Caris, but if we did, this could certainly be a worthwhile move. Tony's D has been a bit overrated, but he's solid, and is in theory a great player to put around superstars, due to his off-ball efficiency. Getting him, and if someone like Toppin drops to 7, would make losing Levert sting less, and would make re-signing Allen and avoiding the luxury tax more feasible.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Caris LeVert

for

7th overall pick
Tony Snell

Who says no?

What?lmaoo caris levert is light years better than tony snell wtf lol people just want to trade levert just for the sake of trading him.lol im really not understanding people

Uuh... 7th overall pick?

Just an idea, but allows you to re-sign the better player in Dinwiddie and gives you a young salary controlled player to groom and grow, who could immediately contribute as well.

On paper it’s fair value imho as long as there’s a guy Marks loves in that area of the draft.

It’s the kind of smart, forward thinking move, progressive franchises do if they think their Kawhi v2.0 is there, or to flip the pick in a different trade for a team who wants a lotto pick instead of Caris for their guy.

Steph Curry and Jamal Murray have both gone 7th in the last 10 years, along with countless other stars in that 7 to 15 range. I’d trust Marks in the draft if he made a move like that.

Dude this draft sucks. What are you talking about lol.

[Hello Brooklyn]

A path for us to move up in the draft and also acquire JJ Reddick:

So JJ Reddick is coming of another solid year.
60 games
26 mins
15 points 2 assists 2 rebounds
45.3% from deep on 6.6 attempts per game
90% free throw

Pelicans need a C. Trajan Langdon was here when we drafted Allen. There is a strong possibility Trajan Langdon will hire Kenny Atkinson to be their next coach. Allen fits perfectly with the Pelicans rebuild timeline.

There is no consensus in this draft. The players we want might be available at 19, or they might all be taken by 15. Is it worth trading Allen and our 19, for Reddick and their 13?

Potential trade:

Allen, Kurucs, Temple, and 19
For
Reddick and 13

DJ, Claxton, and KD can all play C. There’s also a lot of backup centers available in free agency that we could get for the vet minimum if we needed some depth at C.

What do you guys think?

I love Reddick but hes so bad defensively and will likely get targeted every game. Especially with Kyrie.

There are other defensive players I'd look to move Allen for first.

[Hello Brooklyn]

An ostensibly "weak" draft is a poor reason for a good GM not to value picks, especially as our team faces long-term cap issues.

We traded Damian Lillard for 3 months of soon-to-be-UFA Gerald Wallace, because we said it was a "weak draft". Indiana traded Kawhi Leonard for a year of George Hill, because it was a "weak draft". Denver sold BOTH Rudy Gobert and DOnovan Mitchell to the Jazz, because they said those were "weak drafts".

I no longer think that we will trade Caris, but if we did, this could certainly be a worthwhile move. Tony's D has been a bit overrated, but he's solid, and is in theory a great player to put around superstars, due to his off-ball efficiency. Getting him, and if someone like Toppin drops to 7, would make losing Levert sting less, and would make re-signing Allen and avoiding the luxury tax more feasible.

Nobody is saying we shouldn't value picks.

But trading Levert for an unknown pick in a terrible draft is objectively a terrible idea.

People are proposing trading him for guys like Holiday or Beal and you want to give him up for an unproven 20 year old?

[ProspectPark]

A path for us to move up in the draft and also acquire JJ Reddick:

So JJ Reddick is coming of another solid year.
60 games
26 mins
15 points 2 assists 2 rebounds
45.3% from deep on 6.6 attempts per game
90% free throw

Pelicans need a C. Trajan Langdon was here when we drafted Allen. There is a strong possibility Trajan Langdon will hire Kenny Atkinson to be their next coach. Allen fits perfectly with the Pelicans rebuild timeline.

There is no consensus in this draft. The players we want might be available at 19, or they might all be taken by 15. Is it worth trading Allen and our 19, for Reddick and their 13?

Potential trade:

Allen, Kurucs, Temple, and 19
For
Reddick and 13

DJ, Claxton, and KD can all play C. There’s also a lot of backup centers available in free agency that we could get for the vet minimum if we needed some depth at C.

What do you guys think?

I love Reddick but hes so bad defensively and will likely get targeted every game. Especially with Kyrie.

There are other defensive players I'd look to move Allen for first.

I was looking for ways to move up in the draft. All the players we like (Bey, Williams, Green, even Nesmith) happen to be the same players all the teams from 10-18 are also probably targeting. Everyone is looking for two-way wings that can shoot. My fear is by 19, we miss out on everyone.

Most teams are stacked at C, plus Allen is a year away from restricted free agency. Love him as a player but I don’t think he has much trade value. The Pelicans might be one of the few teams who would be willing to trade for him now. They would be doing Reddick a favor by trading him to a contender, and saving $5 million if they decline Temple’s option.

Reddick off the bench gives Dinwiddie a great off ball sniper to work with. Plus he’s a just another mature, competent, high character, experienced NBA vet to add to our locker room. I know him and Kyrie have the Duke connection. He played with DJ in LA. In a playoff game, I would trust Reddick to give us 10-15 high quality minutes.

[Hello Brooklyn]

A path for us to move up in the draft and also acquire JJ Reddick:

So JJ Reddick is coming of another solid year.
60 games
26 mins
15 points 2 assists 2 rebounds
45.3% from deep on 6.6 attempts per game
90% free throw

Pelicans need a C. Trajan Langdon was here when we drafted Allen. There is a strong possibility Trajan Langdon will hire Kenny Atkinson to be their next coach. Allen fits perfectly with the Pelicans rebuild timeline.

There is no consensus in this draft. The players we want might be available at 19, or they might all be taken by 15. Is it worth trading Allen and our 19, for Reddick and their 13?

Potential trade:

Allen, Kurucs, Temple, and 19
For
Reddick and 13

DJ, Claxton, and KD can all play C. There’s also a lot of backup centers available in free agency that we could get for the vet minimum if we needed some depth at C.

What do you guys think?

I love Reddick but hes so bad defensively and will likely get targeted every game. Especially with Kyrie.

There are other defensive players I'd look to move Allen for first.

I was looking for ways to move up in the draft. All the players we like (Bey, Williams, Green, even Nesmith) happen to be the same players all the teams from 10-18 are also probably targeting. Everyone is looking for two-way wings that can shoot. My fear is by 19, we miss out on everyone.

Most teams are stacked at C, plus Allen is a year away from restricted free agency. Love him as a player but I don’t think he has much trade value. The Pelicans might be one of the few teams who would be willing to trade for him now. They would be doing Reddick a favor by trading him to a contender, and saving $5 million if they decline Temple’s option.

Reddick off the bench gives Dinwiddie a great off ball sniper to work with. Plus he’s a just another mature, competent, high character, experienced NBA vet to add to our locker room. I know him and Kyrie have the Duke connection. He played with DJ in LA. In a playoff game, I would trust Reddick to give us 10-15 high quality minutes.

I don't know man.

Bey, Williams, Green are not all supposed to be gone by 19. But even if they are, from what I'm reading this draft is supposed to be stacked with role players.

I feel like there are wings we can find. Desmond Bae, Jaden Mcdaniels, Rober Woodard.

It's not like theres a huge drop off in talent between 15-30. These guys could do in any order.

I'm not against your trade. I just think Allen has move value than that.

[ecuhus1981]

People are proposing trading him for guys like Holiday or Beal and you want to give him up for an unproven 20 year old?

I get it, we're in a finite window, so trading a sure thing for cap relief and a mid-lotto pick can be unnerving. BUT, resetting the contract clock and finding diamonds in the rough are key aspects of a GM's job.

Again, I'm not advocating that we move CLV anymore. If we make a move, it will be around the fringes, or with guys up for a new contract next offseason. We have very little roster flexibility unless we make some trades. If we keep Harris, cut Temple (team option), and sign our 1st-rounder, we're fully stocked:

1) DURANT (#1 scorer, #2 rebounder, off-ball plus-defender)
2) IRVING (#1 playmaker, #2 scorer, off-ball minus-defender)
3) LEVERT (#2 playmaker, #3 scorer, on-ball minus-defender)
4) ALLEN (#1 rebounder, on-ball plus-defender)
5) HARRIS (off-ball minus-defender)
6) DINWIDDIE (#3 playmaker, on-ball minus-defender)
7) PRINCE (on-ball plus-defender)
8) JORDAN (#3 rebounder, on-ball minus-defender)
9) KURUCS (off-ball minus-defender)
10) CABARROT (on-ball plus-defender)
11) CLAXTON (off-ball minus-defender)
12) MUSA (off-ball minus-defender)
13) #19 pick
14) Chiozza? Johnson? Trier? Crawford???
15) open spot

We may not need a 3rd star, but at minimum we need a makeover in the 2nd unit. We need toughness, low-usage efficiency and versatility. Right now, I'm projecting both Caris and Spencer coming off the bench, with Prince being the 5th starter due to his superior man-to-man D and spot-up shooting. So, the 2nd unit will have a TON of high usage and low efficiency, and it will give up a lot defensively. Levert and Dinwiddie have proven to cannabalize each other when they play together for long stretches. Both are best when they get to 28% usage or higher, and it's unheard of to have 2 of those on the bench. There's no calculus to stagger minutes to make that an effective use of resources, not when you already have two high-usage guys (KD and KI) above them in the pecking order.

Now, if Caris turns into Caron, if Spencer becomes Payton, then I'll eat my hat and we'll have a scary team. Right now, I don't see how we can play cohesively as more than the sum of our parts. We're extraordinarily built to withstand a significant injury and still have scorers, but we've seen with PHI that that's not the smartest way to build. You want your team to be optimal when everyone is healthy.

[DarkXaero]

A path for us to move up in the draft and also acquire JJ Reddick:

So JJ Reddick is coming of another solid year.
60 games
26 mins
15 points 2 assists 2 rebounds
45.3% from deep on 6.6 attempts per game
90% free throw

Pelicans need a C. Trajan Langdon was here when we drafted Allen. There is a strong possibility Trajan Langdon will hire Kenny Atkinson to be their next coach. Allen fits perfectly with the Pelicans rebuild timeline.

There is no consensus in this draft. The players we want might be available at 19, or they might all be taken by 15. Is it worth trading Allen and our 19, for Reddick and their 13?

Potential trade:

Allen, Kurucs, Temple, and 19
For
Reddick and 13

DJ, Claxton, and KD can all play C. There’s also a lot of backup centers available in free agency that we could get for the vet minimum if we needed some depth at C.

What do you guys think?

I like JJ a lot, and would love to have him here, but why in the world are we giving up 2 good young assets for 36 year old JJ on an expiring contract? The move from #19 to #13 nowhere near justifies it either. The other thing is that Pelicans have 20 year old Jaxson Hayes entering his 2nd year, and he's basically the same type of center that Allen is, except with greater ceiling. Pelicans could definitely use Allen, but ultimately, they'd want Hayes to be their future starting C.

[ProspectPark]

A path for us to move up in the draft and also acquire JJ Reddick:

So JJ Reddick is coming of another solid year.
60 games
26 mins
15 points 2 assists 2 rebounds
45.3% from deep on 6.6 attempts per game
90% free throw

Pelicans need a C. Trajan Langdon was here when we drafted Allen. There is a strong possibility Trajan Langdon will hire Kenny Atkinson to be their next coach. Allen fits perfectly with the Pelicans rebuild timeline.

There is no consensus in this draft. The players we want might be available at 19, or they might all be taken by 15. Is it worth trading Allen and our 19, for Reddick and their 13?

Potential trade:

Allen, Kurucs, Temple, and 19
For
Reddick and 13

DJ, Claxton, and KD can all play C. There’s also a lot of backup centers available in free agency that we could get for the vet minimum if we needed some depth at C.

What do you guys think?

I like JJ a lot, and would love to have him here, but why in the world are we giving up 2 good young assets for 36 year old JJ on an expiring contract? The move from #19 to #13 nowhere near justifies it either. The other thing is that Pelicans have 20 year old Jaxson Hayes entering his 2nd year, and he's basically the same type of center that Allen is, except with greater ceiling. Pelicans could definitely use Allen, but ultimately, they'd want Hayes to be their future starting C.

I’m not sure they’re sold on Hayes. They’re also going to lose Derrick Favors, so they have enough playing time available at C for both Allen and Hayes. Hayes was only playing 16 minutes and Zion is in and out of the lineup.

Reddick is 36, he’s not part of their long term plans and he’s owed $13 million next season. By trading him for Allen and Temple, they get a young C that can be part of their future, and the option to decline Temple’s team option, which would save them $5 million dollars.

So for Pelicans it’s:
Move down 6 spots but in return they get a really good C who the GM already knows and who can fix a lot of their defensive problems, and they save $5 million.

And for us it’s:
We move up 6 spots so we can draft Saddiq Bey or Patrick Williams or whoever, we get a year of JJ Reddick who helps us win now, and all we have to give up is a backup C who isn’t part of our long term plans since we already have DJ for the next 3 years.

[MrDollarBills]

Yall are talking about trading Allen or LeVert for names like Tony Snell and JJ Reddick......

we'd be better off keeping both of them at that rate. jesus christ

[Papi_swav]

A path for us to move up in the draft and also acquire JJ Reddick:

So JJ Reddick is coming of another solid year.
60 games
26 mins
15 points 2 assists 2 rebounds
45.3% from deep on 6.6 attempts per game
90% free throw

Pelicans need a C. Trajan Langdon was here when we drafted Allen. There is a strong possibility Trajan Langdon will hire Kenny Atkinson to be their next coach. Allen fits perfectly with the Pelicans rebuild timeline.

There is no consensus in this draft. The players we want might be available at 19, or they might all be taken by 15. Is it worth trading Allen and our 19, for Reddick and their 13?

Potential trade:

Allen, Kurucs, Temple, and 19
For
Reddick and 13

DJ, Claxton, and KD can all play C. There’s also a lot of backup centers available in free agency that we could get for the vet minimum if we needed some depth at C.

What do you guys think?

I love Reddick but hes so bad defensively and will likely get targeted every game. Especially with Kyrie.

There are other defensive players I'd look to move Allen for first.

I was looking for ways to move up in the draft. All the players we like (Bey, Williams, Green, even Nesmith) happen to be the same players all the teams from 10-18 are also probably targeting. Everyone is looking for two-way wings that can shoot. My fear is by 19, we miss out on everyone.

Most teams are stacked at C, plus Allen is a year away from restricted free agency. Love him as a player but I don’t think he has much trade value. The Pelicans might be one of the few teams who would be willing to trade for him now. They would be doing Reddick a favor by trading him to a contender, and saving $5 million if they decline Temple’s option.

Reddick off the bench gives Dinwiddie a great off ball sniper to work with. Plus he’s a just another mature, competent, high character, experienced NBA vet to add to our locker room. I know him and Kyrie have the Duke connection. He played with DJ in LA. In a playoff game, I would trust Reddick to give us 10-15 high quality minutes.

If we resign Harris then there's no reason for JJ Reddick. They are basically the same player but Joe is taller, stronger. younger and can play the wing. We need some defenders more than shooters.

[TheNetsFan]

With Nash as the coach, I would expect a desire to get hyper athletic wings and forwards, as we'll likely let Kyrie really push pace and get creative. That means don't go trade for geriatric slow motion players like Billy King dropped on Kidd. Think prime Shawn Marion and Amar'e Stoudemire.

Aaron Gordon would be the poster boy for what Nash would need. Larry Nance is very intriguing as well.

[ProspectPark]

I love Reddick but hes so bad defensively and will likely get targeted every game. Especially with Kyrie.

There are other defensive players I'd look to move Allen for first.

I was looking for ways to move up in the draft. All the players we like (Bey, Williams, Green, even Nesmith) happen to be the same players all the teams from 10-18 are also probably targeting. Everyone is looking for two-way wings that can shoot. My fear is by 19, we miss out on everyone.

Most teams are stacked at C, plus Allen is a year away from restricted free agency. Love him as a player but I don’t think he has much trade value. The Pelicans might be one of the few teams who would be willing to trade for him now. They would be doing Reddick a favor by trading him to a contender, and saving $5 million if they decline Temple’s option.

Reddick off the bench gives Dinwiddie a great off ball sniper to work with. Plus he’s a just another mature, competent, high character, experienced NBA vet to add to our locker room. I know him and Kyrie have the Duke connection. He played with DJ in LA. In a playoff game, I would trust Reddick to give us 10-15 high quality minutes.

If we resign Harris then there's no reason for JJ Reddick. They are basically the same player but Joe is taller, stronger. younger and can play the wing. We need some defenders more than shooters.

It’s more about moving up in the draft. Reddick is a just a bonus. He can come off the bench.

Yes we need defenders but no team is trading a 2 way wing for Jarrett Allen.

[ProspectPark]

Yall are talking about trading Allen or LeVert for names like Tony Snell and JJ Reddick......

we'd be better off keeping both of them at that rate. jesus christ

Well these are the options:

1. Pay Allen $10-$15 million in free agency and have over $20 million committed to two rim running bigs who can’t stretch the floor and are unplayable against certain matchups.

2. Keep Allen for 1 year, then lose him for nothing in free agency.

3. Since we already have DJ, try to use Allen as a trade chip to move up in the draft and/or acquire a player that helps us win now.

I’m making the argument moving up in the draft and getting Saddiq Bey (or whoever) on a cost controlled contract for the next 4 years is more valuable to us than 1 year of Allen. We already have DJ, Claxton, and KD that can play the 5.

[TheNetsFan]

Yall are talking about trading Allen or LeVert for names like Tony Snell and JJ Reddick......

we'd be better off keeping both of them at that rate. jesus christ

Well these are the options:

1. Pay Allen $10-$15 million in free agency and have over $20 million committed to two rim running bigs who can’t stretch the floor and are unplayable against certain matchups.

2. Keep Allen for 1 year, then lose him for nothing in free agency.

3. Since we already have DJ, try to use Allen as a trade chip to move up in the draft and/or acquire a player that helps us win now.

I’m making the argument moving up in the draft and getting Saddiq Bey (or whoever) on a cost controlled contract for the next 4 years is more valuable to us than 1 year of Allen. We already have DJ, Claxton, and KD that can play the 5.

Absolutely #1. $25mil or so for 2 years for a top 10ish C rotation when you're over the cap regardless is not crippling. If you move or let Allen go, you still need at least one more C that likely takes some or all of the MLE. You can't roll with 32+ year old Jordan as your starting C for 3 more years.