***Official 2021-22 Offseason Thread***

[mademan]

Kyrie getting the extention and kd backing off the trade demand would be the biggest pimp slap I’ve ever seen in the nba. Basically kd and kyrie telling ownership “ ya u thought u had the power huh”

Please let it be true.

I wouldn't look at it that way, this is not KD/Kyrie going after Marks/Tsai, this is KD/Kyrie going after the media making them come up with foolish stories and rumors for three weeks only for the opposite to happen making everyone look like idiots in the process.

It’s pretty hard not to believe that kd has asked for a trade. If he rescinds it after a possible kyrie extension, then it was basically a power play. I don’t see either happening, but man would I love it if it did.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Kyrie getting the extention and kd backing off the trade demand would be the biggest pimp slap I’ve ever seen in the nba. Basically kd and kyrie telling ownership “ ya u thought u had the power huh”

Please let it be true.

I wouldn't look at it that way, this is not KD/Kyrie going after Marks/Tsai, this is KD/Kyrie going after the media making them come up with foolish stories and rumors for three weeks only for the opposite to happen making everyone look like idiots in the process.

It’s pretty hard not to believe that kd has asked for a trade. If he rescinds it after a possible kyrie extension, then it was basically a power play. I don’t see either happening, but man would I love it if it did.

Kyrie was already offered a 4 year extension with contingencies on the last 2 years.

If he does get the extension I have to imagine it will be the same or less.

Can't imagine Tsai giving him the full max after all this drama.

[Netaman]

Listened to the most recent Matt Brooks podcast and he made a really good point about where this fracture occurred - his theory is that it was the vaccine because Tsai has obviously been such an advocate for it, and then obviously Kyrie turned it into such a circus.

Thinking back it's kind of funny the Nets are getting so much criticism now for never standing up to KD/Kyrie, but they did initially draw that line in the sand over the vaccine and say they didn't want part time players. I think chronologically KD signed his extension AFTER that decision too. So that seems to be the 1 time he actually might not have chosen Kyrie over all else.

Obviously we all know the avalanche of insanity that followed, but Brooks had another good point which was the press conference with Kyrie at the end of the year where he talked about being part of how to build the team going forward with Kevin. Which by that point was obviously completely insane. Within days the nets were putting it out that they weren't offering him the max so they weren't sure they even wanted Kyrie let alone were letting him run the franchise.

The KD part of the equation is collateral damage but honestly I think he's doing more damage to himself/his legacy than the Nets. The window was closing and with Kyrie/Harden flaking out his job was getting harder, not easier. Which was more damage he did to himself in the first place by choosing them. If he wants out the Nets are right to turn the page if they can get a fair return.

[Papi_swav]

I wouldn't look at it that way, this is not KD/Kyrie going after Marks/Tsai, this is KD/Kyrie going after the media making them come up with foolish stories and rumors for three weeks only for the opposite to happen making everyone look like idiots in the process.

It’s pretty hard not to believe that kd has asked for a trade. If he rescinds it after a possible kyrie extension, then it was basically a power play. I don’t see either happening, but man would I love it if it did.

Kyrie was already offered a 4 year extension with contingencies on the last 2 years.

If he does get the extension I have to imagine it will be the same or less.

Can't imagine Tsai giving him the full max after all this drama.

Kyrie does not deserve the full max point blank period. Marks and Tsai was smart not to give him that deal. If he wants a full max he's going to have to play out this year and earn it thee old fashion way. These 2 thinks they run the NBA. The NBA was here before them and it'll be here long after them. NBA should step in and send Kyrie to China like they did with Marbury. Nobody got time for these selfish little girl antics it's very sickening.

[Eatgreenz]

If we move kyrie. Should we see if we can get Colin sexton for tpe. Looks like he has a low contract could sign him to build his market back up.

[NetsWorld]

It’s pretty hard not to believe that kd has asked for a trade. If he rescinds it after a possible kyrie extension, then it was basically a power play. I don’t see either happening, but man would I love it if it did.

Kyrie was already offered a 4 year extension with contingencies on the last 2 years.

If he does get the extension I have to imagine it will be the same or less.

Can't imagine Tsai giving him the full max after all this drama.

Kyrie does not deserve the full max point blank period. Marks and Tsai was smart not to give him that deal. If he wants a full max he's going to have to play out this year and earn it thee old fashion way. These 2 thinks they run the NBA. The NBA was here before them and it'll be here long after them. NBA should step in and send Kyrie to China like they did with Marbury. Nobody got time for these selfish little girl antics it's very sickening.

Well, based on what Scoop said, and again HE IS DIRECTLY tied to Kyrie, there could be news the Nets caved and will give him his contract. At that point, Kyrie would win the battle against the Nets. I don't see him going to L.A. nor do I see the Nets breaking up this squad and Kyrie recently liked a tweet by Jamal Crawford stating, "TOO MUCH MISINFORMATION" out there. I now firmly believe this has been a media prop all along to create tension against the Nets leaguewide.

[bwgood77]

Kyrie getting the extention and kd backing off the trade demand would be the biggest pimp slap I’ve ever seen in the nba. Basically kd and kyrie telling ownership “ ya u thought u had the power huh”

Please let it be true.

I wouldn't look at it that way, this is not KD/Kyrie going after Marks/Tsai, this is KD/Kyrie going after the media making them come up with foolish stories and rumors for three weeks only for the opposite to happen making everyone look like idiots in the process.

It’s pretty hard not to believe that kd has asked for a trade. If he rescinds it after a possible kyrie extension, then it was basically a power play. I don’t see either happening, but man would I love it if it did.

Is there a rumor that KD would back off the trade request if Kyrie got an extension or more speculation? I guess a rumor is speculation but is this stuff out there?

[Hello Brooklyn]

I wouldn't look at it that way, this is not KD/Kyrie going after Marks/Tsai, this is KD/Kyrie going after the media making them come up with foolish stories and rumors for three weeks only for the opposite to happen making everyone look like idiots in the process.

It’s pretty hard not to believe that kd has asked for a trade. If he rescinds it after a possible kyrie extension, then it was basically a power play. I don’t see either happening, but man would I love it if it did.

Is there a rumor that KD would back off the trade request if Kyrie got an extension or more speculation? I guess a rumor is speculation but is this stuff out there?

The whole reason KD asked out if because Kyrie didn't get an extension.

If Kyrie does get one, it will only be to appease KD. Nets wouldn't do it otherwise.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Here are my preferences as of today

1. Jaylen Brown, Smart, picks

2. Ingram, Nance, 6 first rounders

3. Don't trade KD and see what happens

Phoenix offer is a non starter for me.

So is Toronto. I think Barnes is overrated. And I don't trust Masai to give us what we need.

[bwgood77]

Listened to the most recent Matt Brooks podcast and he made a really good point about where this fracture occurred - his theory is that it was the vaccine because Tsai has obviously been such an advocate for it, and then obviously Kyrie turned it into such a circus.

Thinking back it's kind of funny the Nets are getting so much criticism now for never standing up to KD/Kyrie, but they did initially draw that line in the sand over the vaccine and say they didn't want part time players. I think chronologically KD signed his extension AFTER that decision too. So that seems to be the 1 time he actually might not have chosen Kyrie over all else.

Obviously we all know the avalanche of insanity that followed, but Brooks had another good point which was the press conference with Kyrie at the end of the year where he talked about being part of how to build the team going forward with Kevin. Which by that point was obviously completely insane. Within days the nets were putting it out that they weren't offering him the max so they weren't sure they even wanted Kyrie let alone were letting him run the franchise.

The KD part of the equation is collateral damage but honestly I think he's doing more damage to himself/his legacy than the Nets. The window was closing and with Kyrie/Harden flaking out his job was getting harder, not easier. Which was more damage he did to himself in the first place by choosing them. If he wants out the Nets are right to turn the page if they can get a fair return.

It is pretty amazing that none of this probably happens with COVID or even a COVID law. I think Kyrie was dumb to not get the vaccine, but a personal choice like that (no matter how ridiculous) really breaks up a team when if this law wasn't in place or COVID wasn't an issue they probably never get here?

It almost seems like they could have taken the approach of "Now that the COVID law is behind us, then this is a non issue and Kyrie, if he wants the extension, apparently wants to be here, and if Kyrie does, KD does, and we were a top seed when they played and probably would be with Simmons.

[Netaman]

It is pretty amazing that none of this probably happens with COVID or even a COVID law. I think Kyrie was dumb to not get the vaccine, but a personal choice like that (no matter how ridiculous) really breaks up a team when if this law wasn't in place or COVID wasn't an issue they probably never get here?

It almost seems like they could have taken the approach of "Now that the COVID law is behind us, then this is a non issue and Kyrie, if he wants the extension, apparently wants to be here, and if Kyrie does, KD does, and we were a top seed when they played and probably would be with Simmons.

Had Kyrie and KD played well in the postseason it certainly would have been a lot simpler to do just that.

Instead Kyrie decided to fast for the first time in his career (i think), played like trash outside game 1, and made excuses about being tired from having been a part time player even though there were plenty of days off around the series.

Then they tried to negotiate a non-max extension with him because obviously that's where his value is right now, and he threw a tantrum to the press and threatened to opt out for the MLE (after not finding anyone interested in S&Ts for him except LAL).

So yes, everyone could have taken that approach. but like clock work Kyrie took the path of most resistance and continues to act aggrieved in doing so.

[bwgood77]

Where exactly is this Scoop news saying Kyrie will get extension? I don't see anything on is twitter feed.

[Papi_swav]

Kyrie was already offered a 4 year extension with contingencies on the last 2 years.

If he does get the extension I have to imagine it will be the same or less.

Can't imagine Tsai giving him the full max after all this drama.

Kyrie does not deserve the full max point blank period. Marks and Tsai was smart not to give him that deal. If he wants a full max he's going to have to play out this year and earn it thee old fashion way. These 2 thinks they run the NBA. The NBA was here before them and it'll be here long after them. NBA should step in and send Kyrie to China like they did with Marbury. Nobody got time for these selfish little girl antics it's very sickening.

Well, based on what Scoop said, and again HE IS DIRECTLY tied to Kyrie, there could be news the Nets caved and will give him his contract. At that point, Kyrie would win the battle against the Nets. I don't see him going to L.A. nor do I see the Nets breaking up this squad and Kyrie recently liked a tweet by Jamal Crawford stating, "TOO MUCH MISINFORMATION" out there. I now firmly believe this has been a media prop all along to create tension against the Nets leaguewide.

yea well Kyrie has absolutely NO leverage here. He created all of this BS just so he can get leverage and get the full max which he does not deserve. This is ALL of his fault. His boy Harden just took a pay cut for the team, I hope he sees that and realize how much of a douche he is. No team even wanted to trade for him except for desperate Lebron which they have no assets. So he needs to look in the mirror, suck it up, pull his panties up, eat his words, and play ball like he's paid these ridiculous millions for. He has no leverage here, which is why he opted in his contract. Nobody wants to deal with that nut case no matter how great of a player he is.

[NetsWorld]

Kyrie does not deserve the full max point blank period. Marks and Tsai was smart not to give him that deal. If he wants a full max he's going to have to play out this year and earn it thee old fashion way. These 2 thinks they run the NBA. The NBA was here before them and it'll be here long after them. NBA should step in and send Kyrie to China like they did with Marbury. Nobody got time for these selfish little girl antics it's very sickening.

Well, based on what Scoop said, and again HE IS DIRECTLY tied to Kyrie, there could be news the Nets caved and will give him his contract. At that point, Kyrie would win the battle against the Nets. I don't see him going to L.A. nor do I see the Nets breaking up this squad and Kyrie recently liked a tweet by Jamal Crawford stating, "TOO MUCH MISINFORMATION" out there. I now firmly believe this has been a media prop all along to create tension against the Nets leaguewide.

yea well Kyrie has absolutely NO leverage here. He created all of this BS just so he can get leverage and get the full max which he does not deserve. This is ALL of his fault. His boy Harden just took a pay cut for the team, I hope he sees that and realize how much of a douche he is. No team even wanted to trade for him except for desperate Lebron which they have no assets. So he needs to look in the mirror, suck it up, pull his panties up, eat his words, and play ball like he's paid these ridiculous millions for. He has no leverage here, which is why he opted in his contract. Nobody wants to deal with that nut case no matter how great of a player he is.

Remember, if Kyrie gets that contract, Nets lose. KD was Kyrie’s selling point. Unfortunately, KD was always Kyrie’s dog on a leash….Sadly

[Educator]

Scoop B is basically reporting Kyrie will sign an extension on July 10th.

No idea if he has any credibility but would be crazy if it happens.

I hate to burst your bubble, but Scoop B is the Kyrie of NBA Twitter personalities. It's all meaningless, cryptic nonsense.

[MrDollarBills]

The fact that Harden took a paycut quietly to help the Sixers add pieces is not lost on me.

I hope that the players get locked out come CBA time. They deserve to eat sh*t after what Ben, KD, Kyrie, and Harden have done. Never in my life would i have thought the players would turn me against them in a labor issue but Durant pulling this before his extension even kicks in has lost me.

[Papi_swav]

The fact that Harden took a paycut quietly to help the Sixers add pieces is not lost on me.

I hope that the players get locked out come CBA time. They deserve to eat sh*t after what Ben, KD, Kyrie, and Harden have done. Never in my life would i have thought the players would turn me against them in a labor issue but Durant pulling this before his extension even kicks in has lost me.

Totally agree, they gave these guys waaaayyyyy too much money and power. Look, I am one that is also always on the player side because these owners look at these guys as if they own them and as if they are their property, but this have gotten out of control. I hate to use this phrase but "they let the inmates run the building" and this have given the NBA a black eye. All these guys jumping ship the moment the heat comes on and wanting to create these super teams is ruining the product of the NBA. These dudes don't want to compete anymore and it's pathetic. Competition is what makes sports great. This is why my respect to Curry, Kobe, MJ , Dirk, Duncan and a few others are thru the roof. They are 1 of 1 different breed.

[TheNetsFan]

Here are my preferences as of today

1. Jaylen Brown, Smart, picks

2. Ingram, Nance, 6 first rounders

3. Don't trade KD and see what happens

Phoenix offer is a non starter for me.

So is Toronto. I think Barnes is overrated. And I don't trust Masai to give us what we need.

There's no chance we can get Ingram and 6 first rounders. Maybe you can get Ingram and a pick or two. Maybe you can get CJ or all filler and 4+ picks. Ingram and 6 won't even be approachable.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Scoop B is basically reporting Kyrie will sign an extension on July 10th.

No idea if he has any credibility but would be crazy if it happens.

I hate to burst your bubble, but Scoop B is the Kyrie of NBA Twitter personalities. It's all meaningless, cryptic nonsense.

To be fair, Scoop B does have connects to Kyrie. He reported he was opting in early.

Doesn't mean this isn't BS. But I wouldn't dismiss it.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Here are my preferences as of today

1. Jaylen Brown, Smart, picks

2. Ingram, Nance, 6 first rounders

3. Don't trade KD and see what happens

Phoenix offer is a non starter for me.

So is Toronto. I think Barnes is overrated. And I don't trust Masai to give us what we need.

There's no chance we can get Ingram and 6 first rounders. Maybe you can get Ingram and a pick or two. Maybe you can get CJ or all filler and 4+ picks. Ingram and 6 won't even be approachable.

I don't really buy that.

Even if its not 6, picks we can definitely get Ingram and 4.