The Official D'Angelo Russell Thread II

[3pt_chucker]

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Ehhh this guy just likes to stir things up. I stopped following him on twitter for that reason.

Our front office is super conservative when it comes to transactions. Any true Nets fan knows this.

Just recently there was hub hub about the lack of talk about Dinwiddie extension(who also had cryptic statements/tweets) but re-signed on a team friendly deal.

I have no doubt they want to bring Dlo back.

[gigantes]

Russell was never shopped. Talking heads speculated because we were rumored to be interested in Butler and supposedly LeVert was off the table.

Marks stated that no trade specifics were ever discussed with Minny. It was also reported that Thibs was fixated on a deal with Philly since he was in win-now mode.

Ehhh this guy just likes to stir things up. I stopped following him on twitter for that reason.

Our front office is super conservative when it comes to transactions. Any true Nets fan knows this.

Just recently there was hub hub about the lack of talk about Dinwiddie extension(who also had cryptic statements/tweets) but re-signed on a team friendly deal.

I have no doubt they want to bring Dlo back.

Thanks for the clarifications. I don't follow Twitter, but appreciate you all sharing the better tweets.

Guy doesn't sound like much of a real fan to me, but maybe that's a good alias to cop if you're really just a sh-t-stirrer.

[MrDollarBills]

Only people I follow from Nets twitterverse are Windrem (NetsDaily) and Anthony Puccio. No one else deserves the time of day because the rest of them talk a bunch of ****. Puccio is going to be a beat writer sooner than later.

I only follow Windrem because the older I get the more I find myself agreeing with him in some regards, which pains me to admit. He's still an arrogant ass hole though.

[gigantes]

Only people I follow from Nets twitterverse are Windrem (NetsDaily) and Anthony Puccio. No one else deserves the time of day because the rest of them talk a bunch of ****. Puccio is going to be a beat writer sooner than later.

I only follow Windrem because the older I get the more I find myself agreeing with him in some regards, which pains me to admit. He's still an arrogant ass hole though.

Yeah, Net Income's pettiness / stubbornness gets a bit cringe-worthy sometimes, but I give him props for being pretty tireless in his pursuit of all Nets-related info.

Or at least, that's his traditional M.O. Seems like he's been handing much of the reins over to the kids the last couple years, like Pooch & Co. (not to be confused with a 70's Disney film)

[TheNetsFan]

Only people I follow from Nets twitterverse are Windrem (NetsDaily) and Anthony Puccio. No one else deserves the time of day because the rest of them talk a bunch of ****. Puccio is going to be a beat writer sooner than later.

I only follow Windrem because the older I get the more I find myself agreeing with him in some regards, which pains me to admit. He's still an arrogant ass hole though.

Add Billy Reinhardt, Michael Scotto and some of the beat writers. I don’t really tweet, but I read Twitter extensively for sports news.

[SpeedyG]

Scotto is pretty good, but often his content is locked behind The Athletic

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[TheNetsFan]

Scotto is pretty good, but often his content is locked behind The Athletic

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[SpeedyG]

I think the most disappointing part of these playoffs was Russell's performance. Losing in the playoffs was expected...many of us had this series in 5, maaaybe 6.

But the Russell that showed up was really not the All star this season. Average defense, missed shots, ill advised shot selections at the worst time, not enough playmaking.

He took the most shots out of anyone in our team...20 of them per game and shot a cold 36%. All this while averaging nearly 1 to 1 ast to turnover ratio (and sub 4 apg).

Hopefully he works extra hard and takes the next step, but his struggles this series brings to light a lot of the questions about his game.

Marks will need to decide if the Russell we saw was playoffs jitters (bad, but overcomeable) or limitations as defenses get tougher more physical and takeaway what you're good at.

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[Rakim Allah]

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DLO was 8-15

[MrDollarBills]

I think the most disappointing part of these playoffs was Russell's performance. Losing in the playoffs was expected...many of us had this series in 5, maaaybe 6.

But the Russell that showed up was really not the All star this season. Average defense, missed shots, ill advised shot selections at the worst time, not enough playmaking.

He took the most shots out of anyone in our team...20 of them per game and shot a cold 36%. All this while averaging nearly 1 to 1 ast to turnover ratio (and sub 4 apg).

Hopefully he works extra hard and takes the next step, but his struggles this series brings to light a lot of the questions about his game.

Marks will need to decide if the Russell we saw was playoffs jitters (bad, but overcomeable) or limitations as defenses get tougher more physical and takeaway what you're good at.

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I think that he had the yips. He had awful starts in the games that were competitive but turned things around as the game went on. His elite passing that we saw during the season wasn't there, whether that was due to what Philly was doing defensively or just him being shell shocked at the physicality of the playoffs, we'll see.

He needs to get stronger and continue to keep the consistency of his deep ball trending upwards. He may want to continue to work on more moves once he gets into the painted area.

[SpeedyG]

I think the most disappointing part of these playoffs was Russell's performance. Losing in the playoffs was expected...many of us had this series in 5, maaaybe 6.

But the Russell that showed up was really not the All star this season. Average defense, missed shots, ill advised shot selections at the worst time, not enough playmaking.

He took the most shots out of anyone in our team...20 of them per game and shot a cold 36%. All this while averaging nearly 1 to 1 ast to turnover ratio (and sub 4 apg).

Hopefully he works extra hard and takes the next step, but his struggles this series brings to light a lot of the questions about his game.

Marks will need to decide if the Russell we saw was playoffs jitters (bad, but overcomeable) or limitations as defenses get tougher more physical and takeaway what you're good at.

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I think that he had the yips. He had awful starts in the games that were competitive but turned things around as the game went on. His elite passing that we saw during the season wasn't there, whether that was due to what Philly was doing defensively or just him being shell shocked at the physicality of the playoffs, we'll see.

He needs to get stronger and continue to keep the consistency of his deep ball trending upwards. He may want to continue to work on more moves once he gets into the painted area.

Yeah I attribute it more to putting too much pressure on himself. A lot of his misses were same type of shots he made in the season (especially the mid range ones).

Same with Joe.

Both guys really had same shots they took in season (slightly less with Joe as he had to adjust after all star break and rely more on curls off screens).

But that's also part of statistics/analytics.

The all-star stretch he had late December to early February was bonkers and probably not sustainable.

He had returned a bit to the mean post-all star (which was good, not great) and unfortunately went to the low point during the playoffs.

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[MrDollarBills]

I think the most disappointing part of these playoffs was Russell's performance. Losing in the playoffs was expected...many of us had this series in 5, maaaybe 6.

But the Russell that showed up was really not the All star this season. Average defense, missed shots, ill advised shot selections at the worst time, not enough playmaking.

He took the most shots out of anyone in our team...20 of them per game and shot a cold 36%. All this while averaging nearly 1 to 1 ast to turnover ratio (and sub 4 apg).

Hopefully he works extra hard and takes the next step, but his struggles this series brings to light a lot of the questions about his game.

Marks will need to decide if the Russell we saw was playoffs jitters (bad, but overcomeable) or limitations as defenses get tougher more physical and takeaway what you're good at.

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I think that he had the yips. He had awful starts in the games that were competitive but turned things around as the game went on. His elite passing that we saw during the season wasn't there, whether that was due to what Philly was doing defensively or just him being shell shocked at the physicality of the playoffs, we'll see.

He needs to get stronger and continue to keep the consistency of his deep ball trending upwards. He may want to continue to work on more moves once he gets into the painted area.

Yeah I attribute it more to putting too much pressure on himself. A lot of his misses were same type of shots he made in the season (especially the mid range ones).

Same with Joe.

Both guys really had same shots they took in season (slightly less with Joe as he had to adjust after all star break and rely more on curls off screens).

But that's also part of statistics/analytics.

The all-star stretch he had late December to early February was bonkers and probably not sustainable.

He had returned a bit to the mean post-all star (which was good, not great) and unfortunately went to the low point during the playoffs.

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Yeah, Both Russell and Harris were bricking shots they were making in their sleep in the regular season. I think all of that was 100% mental, and it wasn't as a result of anything that Philly was doing in particular. Russell was missing foul line jumpers that were uncontested, Harris was missing wide open threes. I'll give them both the benefit of the doubt here.

[MrDollarBills]

I think Russell needs to improve the most is making people around him better regardless of the shot being on or off. I think focusing on being a playmaker first and foremost is a good next logical step along with being more efficient.

[Shark]

I think Russell needs to improve the most is making people around him better regardless of the shot being on or off. I think focusing on being a playmaker first and foremost is a good next logical step along with being more efficient.

That's definitely the next step for him. I felt like there were time where he seemed to be going in the right direction, but overall it still seems like he still doesn't quite have the feel for when he needs to be a playmaker and when he needs to just take over. I think if he also drives into the paint more often it'll open that part of his game up a lot more as well. He's certainly capable of doing so because he showed flashes towards the end of the regular season.

[MrDollarBills]

I think Russell needs to improve the most is making people around him better regardless of the shot being on or off. I think focusing on being a playmaker first and foremost is a good next logical step along with being more efficient.

That's definitely the next step for him. I felt like there were time where he seemed to be going in the right direction, but overall it still seems like he still doesn't quite have the feel for when he needs to be a playmaker and when he needs to just take over. I think if he also drives into the paint more often it'll open that part of his game up a lot more as well. He's certainly capable of doing so because he showed flashes towards the end of the regular season.

It's a learning process. He had to balance when to get everyone else going and when it was time to take over.

I think next season if LeVert is healthy he can defer a bit more. he'll still get his 20+ points regardless.

[MGrand15]

I think the key is shot selection. Can't be leading the league in shot attempts and USG. Can't happen. The good thing is Kenny is constantly on him about it and hes willing to listen. Kenny is the perfect guy to get him to balance attacking and playmaking.

[DeRoma]

I think the key is shot selection. Can't be leading the league in shot attempts and USG. Can't happen. The good thing is Kenny is constantly on him about it and hes willing to listen. Kenny is the perfect guy to get him to balance attacking and playmaking.

Problem is he never attacks... He continuously settles for contested jumpers and he is not a good enough shooter to even take those types of shots. To me, if he continues on to play like he did this season, he'll be out of the league by the end of his next contract. From what I see is a player that is manageable to be the main guy in the regular season but completely disappears when the opposing defense decides not to give him space like what we saw when he was against Simmons. Kinda pathetic how ineffective he was when the only defensive assignment against him was to lock him down. They didn't even try to do anything else like trap, deny the passing lane, put a satellite defender against him, etc. It was straight up D.

There is a silver-lining chance that he can if he can somehow convert the hard shots he stubbornly takes in a higher trajectory. Which he then instantly becomes a top 10 player on the league. However, I just don't see it. You can tell he is not a workhorse like Curry, Lebron, Kobe, etc. You can easily see it from watching him so lackadaisical handling the ball where he constantly gets cookied by no name defenders.

So basically I think he is a boom or bust player. If he continue to play the he have been with the lack of shooting improvement, he is as good as gone in the NBA. That "improvement" meaning he needs to be able to be god tier with his off-the-dribble shots. Either that or he needs to completely change his mentality of the game and be more of playmaking facilitator that can be a descent spot up shooter is what he can do to save his career.

[gigantes]

Seems a bit much to be extensively critiquing someone who just went through a major growth spurt, and is likely not done yet.

I mean, if DLo had somehow shored up every last complaint made about him all in the space of the '18-19 season, surely it would have been one of the greatest player improvements in the history of the league... and a likely announcement that the next superstar had arrived.

That said, I can understand being skeptical in the context of how these competitive, super-pricey contracts work. Ideally you'd want to pay a guy directly in line with his actual accomplishments, and not in terms of gambling on his future productivity in four year blocks. The whole thing is business as usual on one hand, but borderline madness on the other.

[MGrand15]

I think the key is shot selection. Can't be leading the league in shot attempts and USG. Can't happen. The good thing is Kenny is constantly on him about it and hes willing to listen. Kenny is the perfect guy to get him to balance attacking and playmaking.

Problem is he never attacks... He continuously settles for contested jumpers and he is not a good enough shooter to even take those types of shots. To me, if he continues on to play like he did this season, he'll be out of the league by the end of his next contract. From what I see is a player that is manageable to be the main guy in the regular season but completely disappears when the opposing defense decides not to give him space like what we saw when he was against Simmons. Kinda pathetic how ineffective he was when the only defensive assignment against him was to lock him down. They didn't even try to do anything else like trap, deny the passing lane, put a satellite defender against him, etc. It was straight up D.

There is a silver-lining chance that he can if he can somehow convert the hard shots he stubbornly takes in a higher trajectory. Which he then instantly becomes a top 10 player on the league. However, I just don't see it. You can tell he is not a workhorse like Curry, Lebron, Kobe, etc. You can easily see it from watching him so lackadaisical handling the ball where he constantly gets cookied by no name defenders.

So basically I think he is a boom or bust player. If he continue to play the he have been with the lack of shooting improvement, he is as good as gone in the NBA. That "improvement" meaning he needs to be able to be god tier with his off-the-dribble shots. Either that or he needs to completely change his mentality of the game and be more of playmaking facilitator that can be a descent spot up shooter is what he can do to save his career.

Save his career? He's about to get a max contract (or something close) - what in the world are you talking about?

[MrDollarBills]

I think the key is shot selection. Can't be leading the league in shot attempts and USG. Can't happen. The good thing is Kenny is constantly on him about it and hes willing to listen. Kenny is the perfect guy to get him to balance attacking and playmaking.

Problem is he never attacks... He continuously settles for contested jumpers and he is not a good enough shooter to even take those types of shots. To me, if he continues on to play like he did this season, he'll be out of the league by the end of his next contract. From what I see is a player that is manageable to be the main guy in the regular season but completely disappears when the opposing defense decides not to give him space like what we saw when he was against Simmons. Kinda pathetic how ineffective he was when the only defensive assignment against him was to lock him down. They didn't even try to do anything else like trap, deny the passing lane, put a satellite defender against him, etc. It was straight up D.

There is a silver-lining chance that he can if he can somehow convert the hard shots he stubbornly takes in a higher trajectory. Which he then instantly becomes a top 10 player on the league. However, I just don't see it. You can tell he is not a workhorse like Curry, Lebron, Kobe, etc. You can easily see it from watching him so lackadaisical handling the ball where he constantly gets cookied by no name defenders.

So basically I think he is a boom or bust player. If he continue to play the he have been with the lack of shooting improvement, he is as good as gone in the NBA. That "improvement" meaning he needs to be able to be god tier with his off-the-dribble shots. Either that or he needs to completely change his mentality of the game and be more of playmaking facilitator that can be a descent spot up shooter is what he can do to save his career.

Save his career? He's about to get a max contract (or something close) - what in the world are you talking about?

I read that and was like



He had a poor showing in the post season but dude made the all star team, put up 21/7/4 on decent percentages and practically carried this team to the playoffs. Now we go from that to him being out of the league?