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[ChokeFasncists]

Trump has made 3 foreign policy mistakes in the last 48 hours the latest of which is to put our relation with China at risk. He's not even president yet. We're in for a rocky road.

What are the other two?

[Pistolpete1947]

Trump has praised Philipinne president Duterte for his handling of drug problems and actually invited him to New York or Washington DC. Duterte has been criticized by our government for some of his actions. "Washington has been critical of the Philippines handling of drug dealers, including extrajudical killings -- government executions without the benefit of judicial proceedings."

Trump also praised Pakistan's Prime Minister which risks diplomatic problems with India.

In short he's calling leaders around the world either without knowledge of the ramifications or he just doesn't care. Either way he's causing diplomatic problems and he's not even president yet.

[tonman]

Yep

Ask the Libyans about her foreign policy. A once prosperous African nation (albeit led by a dictator) turned into a hell hole on her watch.

LOL. now we are back to labeling lies and half truths to folks. Who's the one wanting to bomb the heck out of ISIS not even acknowledging that there are innocents in the area? How's Iraq doing after bush and Cheney war?

The more you pone the other side the more you can't admit your side is just as guilty as the other. I dont care too much about a two party system because two is one more than one and both sides want to control this country as if it's a one party system. Just look at the Supreme Court nomination that is hijacked. During the era of the two parties both has had success and both has had failures so it isn't about which ideology is better than the other. It is about when to be conservative and when to be progressive on specific issues. Like whining about Obamacare trying to repeal it over 60 times and not providing another option.

Whatever you point out that is bad with hillary or liberals, others can point out the same against trump and republicans. There are no winners or losers. Either we all succeed or we all fail otherwise politics will continue to be controlled by special interests on BOTH sides of the aisle. Trump may be an outsider but he is the ultimate politician. Nice one bringing in someone different....

Nobody is prone to any side except the one that stands against the dominant media narratives surrounding all of this. CNN, the Clinton News Network, wants you to think every special interest is going to get rocks thrown at them in public because of the presidency. They want you to think Hilary is the second coming of Jesus, and use endorsements from celebrities to make you think she is somehow a voice for the voiceless.

The truth is, benign neglect - the doctrine that politicians on both sides of the aisle ascribe to where politicians avoid promising anything to special interests by lumping them all under vague umbrella terms, like "minority" - in order to politically minimize them, is every bit as racist as what the confederate flag stands for.

When memos leak of the democratic party's position to refuse to acknowledge any policy suggestions of these so called "protestors" and Obama would rather have a town hall meeting to talk about his feelings rather than put pressure on prosecutors to levy some actual charges against these renegade killer cops, I don't think supporting this party in any way shape or form is in any educated black person's interest. Especially considering when the Clintons were the ones who signed the crime bills leading to mass incarceration and stiffer sentencing for selling the crack cocaine that was funneled into poor black communities in the 80s, with ties that have been verified and linked to the CIA and federal government.

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If this doesn't sever your steadfast belief in partisan politics completely, I don't have anything else to tell you.

The Regans, Bushes, and Clintons are the gandparents of mass incarceration and the erosion of the inner cities we see today. When politicians talk about police reform and they equate that with giving them more money/funding without explanation, they're lying between their teeth. When a politician says they want to tax the rich, and provide no details on how the allocation of resources should be better managed, they're lying between their teeth. Politicians on both sides are completely full of **** and nothing they do will change anything significant about fiscal ties with the federal gov't.

Though as much as I agree with you regarding politicians I am not at the point where I am ready to blame any one group for the ills of our country. Why do we need police reform? If you ask the 5 why's you will get that the community bears some responsibility also. Everyone holds some blame that is why I do not prescribe to one side knowing how to fix our situation. As much as you put down CNN, Fox news is more blantantly one sided it leaves the realm of journalism and news altoghether. At the end if all we have left going forward is partisan bull in Washington then we will never be as great a country as we should. I might be overly hopeful but rather be that than cynical.

[ChokeFasncists]

Trump has praised Philipinne president Duterte for his handling of drug problems and actually invited him to New York or Washington DC. Duterte has been criticized by our government for some of his actions. "Washington has been critical of the Philippines handling of drug dealers, including extrajudical killings -- government executions without the benefit of judicial proceedings."

Trump also praised Pakistan's Prime Minister which risks diplomatic problems with India.

In short he's calling leaders around the world either without knowledge of the ramifications or he just doesn't care. Either way he's causing diplomatic problems and he's not even president yet.

~lol~ thx. Trump the bumchum or Trump the chump!?

[MrDollarBills]

Yep

Ask the Libyans about her foreign policy. A once prosperous African nation (albeit led by a dictator) turned into a hell hole on her watch.

LOL. now we are back to labeling lies and half truths to folks. Who's the one wanting to bomb the heck out of ISIS not even acknowledging that there are innocents in the area? How's Iraq doing after bush and Cheney war?

The more you pone the other side the more you can't admit your side is just as guilty as the other. I dont care too much about a two party system because two is one more than one and both sides want to control this country as if it's a one party system. Just look at the Supreme Court nomination that is hijacked. During the era of the two parties both has had success and both has had failures so it isn't about which ideology is better than the other. It is about when to be conservative and when to be progressive on specific issues. Like whining about Obamacare trying to repeal it over 60 times and not providing another option.

Whatever you point out that is bad with hillary or liberals, others can point out the same against trump and republicans. There are no winners or losers. Either we all succeed or we all fail otherwise politics will continue to be controlled by special interests on BOTH sides of the aisle. Trump may be an outsider but he is the ultimate politician. Nice one bringing in someone different....

Nobody is prone to any side except the one that stands against the dominant media narratives surrounding all of this. CNN, the Clinton News Network, wants you to think every special interest is going to get rocks thrown at them in public because of the presidency. They want you to think Hilary is the second coming of Jesus, and use endorsements from celebrities to make you think she is somehow a voice for the voiceless.

The truth is, benign neglect - the doctrine that politicians on both sides of the aisle ascribe to where politicians avoid promising anything to special interests by lumping them all under vague umbrella terms, like "minority" - in order to politically minimize them, is every bit as racist as what the confederate flag stands for.

When memos leak of the democratic party's position to refuse to acknowledge any policy suggestions of these so called "protestors" and Obama would rather have a town hall meeting to talk about his feelings rather than put pressure on prosecutors to levy some actual charges against these renegade killer cops, I don't think supporting this party in any way shape or form is in any educated black person's interest. Especially considering when the Clintons were the ones who signed the crime bills leading to mass incarceration and stiffer sentencing for selling the crack cocaine that was funneled into poor black communities in the 80s, with ties that have been verified and linked to the CIA and federal government.

Watch on YouTube

If this doesn't sever your steadfast belief in partisan politics completely, I don't have anything else to tell you.

The Regans, Bushes, and Clintons are the gandparents of mass incarceration and the erosion of the inner cities we see today. When politicians talk about police reform and they equate that with giving them more money/funding without explanation, they're lying between their teeth. When a politician says they want to tax the rich, and provide no details on how the allocation of resources should be better managed, they're lying between their teeth. Politicians on both sides are completely full of **** and nothing they do will change anything significant about fiscal ties with the federal gov't.

+100. It is baffling to me how black americans support her so much when the Clinton regime is responsible for the decimation of thousands upon thousands of homes and families. She says nothing of substance, Sanders may have been a bit too idealistic in certain areas, but he spoke the god's honest truth which resonated with a wide array of voters. I can understand if uneducated black americans flock to her, uneducated white americans flock to Trump because lets be honest, when you see Trump dog whistling, or Clinton trying to entice people by going on urban radio stations talking about how she keeps a bottle of hot sauce in her purse or having Jay Z do concerts on her behalf, she's appealing to their base instincts. But to be educated, aware, and well read on what's going on...I can understand holding your nose and casting a vote for her out of fear of Trump, but supporting her? No. The Clintons have done irreparable damage to the black community and I wished that both Sanders and Trump pounded that talking point during the primaries and elections just to expose her to people that are ignorant of how horrible this woman is.

Oddly enough, now that a heroin epidemic has hit the United States, and is claiming the lives of constipated opiod addicted americans in the suburbs, all of a sudden we see a push to change drug sentencing and laws. FOH.

[MrDollarBills]

Trump has praised Philipinne president Duterte for his handling of drug problems and actually invited him to New York or Washington DC. Duterte has been criticized by our government for some of his actions. "Washington has been critical of the Philippines handling of drug dealers, including extrajudical killings -- government executions without the benefit of judicial proceedings."

Trump also praised Pakistan's Prime Minister which risks diplomatic problems with India.

In short he's calling leaders around the world either without knowledge of the ramifications or he just doesn't care. Either way he's causing diplomatic problems and he's not even president yet.

I'm not surprised that Trump and Duterte hit it off on the phone. Both of them are fascist nutjobs. Only thing is that Trump hasn't killed anyone. Yet.

I don't think Trump is even remotely versed on the situations around the world...or he doesn't care. I think its a mix of both. I think his outlook regarding foreign affairs are all financially motivated.

[shakendfries]

Though as much as I agree with you regarding politicians I am not at the point where I am ready to blame any one group for the ills of our country. Why do we need police reform? If you ask the 5 why's you will get that the community bears some responsibility also.

Watch on YouTube

Watch on YouTube

[shakendfries]

Everyone holds some blame that is why I do not prescribe to one side knowing how to fix our situation. As much as you put down CNN, Fox news is more blantantly one sided it leaves the realm of journalism and news altoghether. At the end if all we have left going forward is partisan bull in Washington then we will never be as great a country as we should. I might be overly hopeful but rather be that than cynical.

I'd prefer if you disagreed with everything I said, as long as it causes you to question the things you choose to accept as the truth. Don't take things for granted just because you watch it on the news or some azzhole typed out a paragraph on some forum somewhere. I don't care if you like or hate everything someone on one news station tells you, as long as your disagreement causes you to question what you choose to accept as reality it has served its purpose.

Watch on YouTube

Question everything.

[MrDollarBills]

Though as much as I agree with you regarding politicians I am not at the point where I am ready to blame any one group for the ills of our country. Why do we need police reform? If you ask the 5 why's you will get that the community bears some responsibility also.

Watch on YouTube

Watch on YouTube

Pusha T is a moron.

Uncle Hotep, eh...I agree with him on a lot of things, he's the type of guy that takes a step back from the noise and forms his own opinions. But he seems like a blind Trump supporter just the same, just as bad as a blind Clintonista. Pom Pom waving regarding politics is moronic, especially when you realize that Trump is about to implement some serious trickle down economics which is going to tank the economy. And then you see comments on his YouTube page like this:

There would be no race problem if all blacks were like Uncle Hotep, because there are enlightened white nationalists who seek good cooperation with other races while everyone maintains their identity. But as he says about the constant Hitler and Holocaust propaganda on tv, ''certain people'' want to pit the gentiles against each other. Look how they just totally demonized Trump. who has always gotten along very well with people of all races.

get the FOH I'm a proud black man who will openly say the same thing that he (Uncle Hotep) does about the Democrats, but when you have racists coming into your video saying that kind of trash, or as another racist commenter put it: "you're one of the good ones, Uncle Hotep", he's clearly **** ing up somewhere. These racist alt righters are NOT your friend no matter if you've got a MAGA hat on or not.

[tonman]

Everyone holds some blame that is why I do not prescribe to one side knowing how to fix our situation. As much as you put down CNN, Fox news is more blantantly one sided it leaves the realm of journalism and news altoghether. At the end if all we have left going forward is partisan bull in Washington then we will never be as great a country as we should. I might be overly hopeful but rather be that than cynical.

I'd prefer if you disagreed with everything I said, as long as it causes you to question the things you choose to accept as the truth. Don't take things for granted just because you watch it on the news or some azzhole typed out a paragraph on some forum somewhere. I don't care if you like or hate everything someone on one news station tells you, as long as your disagreement causes you to question what you choose to accept as reality it has served its purpose.

Watch on YouTube

Question everything.

Ahh George carlin. One of my all time favorites. But again you are assuming either I agree with everything you say or disagree with every thing you say. That's not reality.

Love carlin's football vs baseball comparison.

[ChokeFasncists]

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/01/my-president-was-black/508793/

Just finished, loooooong article.

[MrDollarBills]

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/01/my-president-was-black/508793/

Just finished, loooooong article.

This is a great read.

“I think where I got frustrated at times was the belief that the president can do anything if he just decides he wants to do it. And that sort of lack of awareness on the part of an activist about the constraints of our political system and the constraints on this office, I think, sometimes would leave me to mutter under my breath. Very rarely did I lose it publicly. Usually I’d just smile.”

He laughed, then continued, “The reason I say that is because those are the times where sometimes you feel actually a little bit hurt. Because you feel like saying to these folks, ‘[Don’t] you think if I could do it, I [would] have just done it? Do you think that the only problem is that I don’t care enough about the plight of poor people, or gay people?’ ”

This is where I've gotten into debates with other black americans about obama. While I necessarily did not agree with the man all the time, I think he was doing the best job that he could have and that is in the face of one of the most obstructionist congresses this country has ever seen. But people seemed to think that he didn't do anything when in reality the President's powers are only limited to certain things.

This is what Trump's supporters are going to realize very quickly, when all of his outrageous promises never happen.

And frankly, seeing all of this unfold made me appreciate Obama a lot more. This guy had to deal with a lot of crap. That's why I'm glad he's sticking it to Netanyahu on his way out, because he's been disrespectful as hell to him over the years and part of me believes it is because he's black.

[ChokeFasncists]

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/01/my-president-was-black/508793/

Just finished, loooooong article.

This is a great read.

“I think where I got frustrated at times was the belief that the president can do anything if he just decides he wants to do it. And that sort of lack of awareness on the part of an activist about the constraints of our political system and the constraints on this office, I think, sometimes would leave me to mutter under my breath. Very rarely did I lose it publicly. Usually I’d just smile.”

He laughed, then continued, “The reason I say that is because those are the times where sometimes you feel actually a little bit hurt. Because you feel like saying to these folks, ‘[Don’t] you think if I could do it, I [would] have just done it? Do you think that the only problem is that I don’t care enough about the plight of poor people, or gay people?’ ”

This is where I've gotten into debates with other black americans about obama. While I necessarily did not agree with the man all the time, I think he was doing the best job that he could have and that is in the face of one of the most obstructionist congresses this country has ever seen. But people seemed to think that he didn't do anything when in reality the President's powers are only limited to certain things.

This is what Trump's supporters are going to realize very quickly, when all of his outrageous promises never happen.

And frankly, seeing all of this unfold made me appreciate Obama a lot more. This guy had to deal with a lot of crap. That's why I'm glad he's sticking it to Netanyahu on his way out, because he's been disrespectful as hell to him over the years and part of me believes it is because he's black.

It's gonna be an interesting situation. The Republicans have the majority in Congress but they don't agree with Trump on many things. Democrats much less so.

[kamaze]

There's been a muslim ban placed on people from Syria, Iran, Iraq, Somalia, Libya, Sudan and Yemen, a bunch of people at JFK airport were detained. Crowds protested; as they should; the orange dictator is out of pocket. I wouldn't be surprised if he starts another war with the way he acts.

“We try to teach people not to point the finger, blame a whole [group]. You can’t judge a whole group by one’s actions at the end of the day. And I feel like that’s not right. That’s definitely not right,’’ Hollis-Jefferson said Saturday before they faced the Timberwolves. “You can’t speak for all Muslims, because all Muslims’ hearts aren’t like that. Most of them are pure, really believe in a different way and a different livelihood.”

At that point, Hollis-Jefferson had to look away at the Target Center wall, and compose himself, apologizing for getting emotional.

-Rondae Hollis Jefferson a muslim

[tweet]Jeremy Lin ✔ @JLin7
As an American, sorry to everyone affected by the #MuslimBan ... this is foreal gettin out of control #teamACLU
9:44 PM - 28 Jan 2017[/tweet]

[JayJayFor3]

Trump is making this country into a joke, and enemy of the rest of world in 2 weeks. He is not fit to be a president and in over his head.

[MrDollarBills]

I hope Steve Bannon's liver fails tonight.

[MrDollarBills]

There's been a muslim ban placed on people from Syria, Iran, Iraq, Somalia, Libya, Sudan and Yemen, a bunch of people at JFK airport were detained. Crowds protested; as they should; the orange dictator is out of pocket. I wouldn't be surprised if he starts another war with the way he acts.

“We try to teach people not to point the finger, blame a whole [group]. You can’t judge a whole group by one’s actions at the end of the day. And I feel like that’s not right. That’s definitely not right,’’ Hollis-Jefferson said Saturday before they faced the Timberwolves. “You can’t speak for all Muslims, because all Muslims’ hearts aren’t like that. Most of them are pure, really believe in a different way and a different livelihood.”

At that point, Hollis-Jefferson had to look away at the Target Center wall, and compose himself, apologizing for getting emotional.

-Rondae Hollis Jefferson a muslim

[tweet]Jeremy Lin ✔ @JLin7
As an American, sorry to everyone affected by the #MuslimBan ... this is foreal gettin out of control #teamACLU
9:44 PM - 28 Jan 2017[/tweet]

any so called American who supported this monster and his cabal of neo nazi filth...meh. i'll just stop there. but **** them straight to hell. i've disowned more than a few people in the last 48 hrs over this ****.

[ChokeFasncists]

Why does it have to be so abrupt?

[Pistolpete1947]

Number of terrorist attacks by refugees allowed into U.S.: Zero.

[shakendfries]

Number of terrorist attacks by refugees allowed into U.S.: Zero.

you do understand how preemptive measures work, right?