Official Fire Nash thread - Part II

MrDollarBills · Post #161 » by **MrDollarBills** » Tue Apr 5, 2022 6:54 pm

I absolutely would consider Quinn Snyder.

We need structure in place and a system that maximizes all 15 guys on the roster and not just two stars. We can go ISO heavy in crunch time, idc about that but for 48 minutes we need to play team basketball and generate offense without having to play two guys a combined 80 mins a night just to lose by 12 or eke out a 2 point win.

Enough.

Eatgreenz · Post #162 » by **Eatgreenz** » Tue Apr 5, 2022 7:05 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:I absolutely would consider Quinn Snyder.

We need structure in place and a system that maximizes all 15 guys on the roster and not just two stars. We can go ISO heavy in crunch time, idc about that but for 48 minutes we need to play team basketball and generate offense without having to play two guys a combined 80 mins a night just to lose by 12 or eke out a 2 point win.

Enough.

This a fact even legendary iso scorers like Jordan and Kobe, learned to understand that they need a system to compete. Last 2min they can do there thing. This Nash experiment has shown iso and pickup bball cannot be sustained for 40+minutes. You literally need 3 stars and they have to never get hurt or miss games which is never gunna happen.

Eatgreenz · Post #163 » by **Eatgreenz** » Tue Apr 5, 2022 7:09 pm

I like Synder seems to be a very good coach. I just like Sam Cassell as out top option. feel like he could be the next top tier coach. And he seems to be personable and have the ability to communicate. Feel like players will respect him from the jump

Hello Brooklyn · Post #164 » by **Hello Brooklyn** » Tue Apr 5, 2022 8:02 pm

I don't want Snyder. I don't think hes going to connect with KD/Kyrie.

I would look to Sam Cassel or Darvin Ham. We need a former player with a lot of experience.

Claud · Post #165 » by **Claud** » Wed Apr 6, 2022 6:24 pm

Nash and the rest of the coaching staff needs to 100% **** off. They are turrible ever since MDA and Udoka left.

We need to clean house here.

Not sure who is available to coach, but anybody with half a neuron can tell our team is poorly coached.

TheNetsFan · Post #166 » by **TheNetsFan** » Wed Apr 6, 2022 7:01 pm

Jake Fischer is saying that Doc has been linked to the Lakers & Jazz. There's the thought of a D'Antoni reunion with Morey & Harden hanging overhead, plus Ainge is now in Utah. Vogel is likely to get the axe, but it'll be interesting to see what happens to Snyder & Cassell. There have been rumblings I've read elsewhere (can't remember where) that Snyder is a candidate to replace Pop in San Antonio. He's definitely on the top of my list of realistic, might be available candidates.

Eatgreenz · Post #167 » by **Eatgreenz** » Wed Apr 6, 2022 7:19 pm

Synder or Cassell should be the top 2 options for us unless someone like Pop wants to coach here. If we flame out in the play in or 1st round. Should be all but guaranteed Nash is fired. Still think Nash is let go unless we win the chip or something. No way Marks is this blind he comes from the Spurs organization he knows what a real coach n coaching staffs looks like.

Prokorov · Post #168 » by **Prokorov** » Wed Apr 6, 2022 8:17 pm

the optics of choosing Snyder over Cassell/Ham would be cringe after passing up a ton of black/female coaches for nash last time. Team has to be aware of that

TheNetsFan · Post #169 » by **TheNetsFan** » Wed Apr 6, 2022 8:37 pm

Prokorov wrote:the optics of choosing Snyder over Cassell/Ham would be cringe after passing up a ton of black/female coaches for nash last time. Team has to be aware of that

Maybe, but Snyder has head coaching experience with a track record of winning (& in my opinion overachieving). This wouldn't be another no-experience coach over qualified assistants scenario.

Prokorov · Post #170 » by **Prokorov** » Wed Apr 6, 2022 10:04 pm

TheNetsFan wrote:
Prokorov wrote:the optics of choosing Snyder over Cassell/Ham would be cringe after passing up a ton of black/female coaches for nash last time. Team has to be aware of that

Maybe, but Snyder has head coaching experience with a track record of winning (& in my opinion overachieving). This wouldn't be another no-experience coach over qualified assistants scenario.

Cassell has 10 years experience. this is nothing like nash

Gooner · Post #171 » by **Gooner** » Sat Apr 9, 2022 3:24 pm

Prokorov wrote:
TheNetsFan wrote:
Prokorov wrote:the optics of choosing Snyder over Cassell/Ham would be cringe after passing up a ton of black/female coaches for nash last time. Team has to be aware of that

Maybe, but Snyder has head coaching experience with a track record of winning (& in my opinion overachieving). This wouldn't be another no-experience coach over qualified assistants scenario.

Cassell has 10 years experience. this is nothing like nash

Nash never even wanted to be the coach after he retired, this job basically fell into his lap because KD and Marks wanted him.

cam24thomas · Post #172 » by **cam24thomas** » Sat Apr 9, 2022 4:05 pm

Unfortunately Nash will be our coach forever if Nets win the chip or make the Finals.
And Finals is a legit possibility, as Nets have tended to lift for big games, beat the Bucks at Milwaukee (when KD didn't even play), and beat the Sixers by 29 at Philadelphia, and almost beat the Bucks again but lost by 1 point (Giannis scored 44).
So there is a good chance we reach the Finals and make Nash the new Kerr.

Gooner · Post #173 » by **Gooner** » Sun Apr 10, 2022 8:51 am

ben10simmons wrote:Unfortunately Nash will be our coach forever if Nets win the chip or make the Finals.
And Finals is a legit possibility, as Nets have tended to lift for big games, beat the Bucks at Milwaukee (when KD didn't even play), and beat the Sixers by 29 at Philadelphia, and almost beat the Bucks again but lost by 1 point (Giannis scored 44).
So there is a good chance we reach the Finals and make Nash the new Kerr.

Kerr is a legitimate coach who put a great system in place at Golden State. Nash is just watching the game from the sidelines.

Claud · Post #174 » by **Claud** » Sun Apr 10, 2022 5:24 pm

I think Nash has the tools to be a very good coach one day.

The problem is we are in win-now mode and can't wait for him to get there.

We need a win-now mode coach who knows their stuff.

Not sure who, but this summer we should get a new coach unless Nash wins the chip.

Paradise · Post #175 » by **Paradise** » Sun Apr 10, 2022 6:10 pm

Read on Twitter

MrDollarBills · Post #176 » by **MrDollarBills** » Sun Apr 10, 2022 6:51 pm

Paradise wrote:

Read on Twitter

Failing upwards.

Eatgreenz · Post #177 » by **Eatgreenz** » Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:33 pm

Paradise wrote:

Read on Twitter

Nash is really out of his mind

Hello Brooklyn · Post #178 » by **Hello Brooklyn** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 2:51 am

Now that we have secured the 7 seed I'm less certain that Nash will get fired.

Lets say KD/Kyrie go super nova and beat the Cavs at home.

Then we play a tough competitive series against Boston and lose.

Does anyone really think Nash gets fired? I don't.

He will have all the excuses in the world about Kyrie not being vaxxed, Harden quitting and Simmons being out.

I think theres basically no shot he gets fired. Were stuck with him for another year. And KD is likely exiting his prime any day now.

Prokorov · Post #179 » by **Prokorov** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 3:28 am

Hello Brooklyn wrote:Now that we have secured the 7 seed I'm less certain that Nash will get fired.

Lets say KD/Kyrie go super nova and beat the Cavs at home.

Then we play a tough competitive series against Boston and lose.

Does anyone really think Nash gets fired? I don't.

He will have all the excuses in the world about Kyrie not being vaxxed, Harden quitting and Simmons being out.

I think theres basically no shot he gets fired. Were stuck with him for another year. And KD is likely exiting his prime any day now.

I think if we lose to the Cavs AND hawks/charlotte and miss the playoffs nash still doesnt get fired. i hate it, but i think they dumped every excuse and KD saying he did great its a wrap on any chance he gets canned.

also, losing to Boston would be an embarassment. thats a team we stomp out in 5 with a good coach. Our record looks blah and our play has been blah but as currently constructed, without simmons or harris, this is still a 55-58ish win team.

even with nash, this should at worst go 6 or 7

Prokorov · Post #180 » by **Prokorov** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 3:30 am

MrDollarBills wrote:
Paradise wrote:

Read on Twitter

Failing upwards.

he improved at everything, but we got worse, and nothing we stunk at last year got better.

even with drummond, rebounding has still been an issue at times.

one of the best scorers ever in KD + Harden = "we have to win with defense"

one of the best rebounders ever = "we have to gang rebound and find a way to limit second chances"

dude gets a huge handicap with all-time greats yet we still struggle in those areas