Nets @ Warriors

[HardenGoat]

Imagine watching a game and saying the better player is one that sits at home by their own choosing and then calling an available player a bum. You can’t make this **** up.

Harden played on a grade 2 hamstring injury for this team while Kyrie refuses to take a simple shot.

I know who gives a damn and who doesn't.

I don’t understand the hate. I look at this team as a whole and just want to see it as the best it can be. I love Kyrie and think he is the most skilled player we have after Durant. Harden’s skill involves his passing and reading of defenses and with the right tools he is an all NBA player. He’s the best one on the team in that regard. I can’t understand a fan of the team calling any player a bum when that player just wants to win and shows up to work even injured when the season is on the line. We need everyone to buy in and sacrifice and that is the sole reason for my frustrations. I don’t hate any player though. Just want to see them win it all. We have the players and it will happen if they all buy in.

[NetsWorld]

Imagine watching a game and saying the better player is one that sits at home by their own choosing and then calling an available player a bum. You can’t make this **** up.

Harden played on a grade 2 hamstring injury for this team while Kyrie refuses to take a simple shot.

I know who gives a damn and who doesn't.

I don’t understand the hate. I look at this team as a whole and just want to see it as the best it can be. I love Kyrie and think he is the most skilled player we have after Durant. Harden’s skill involves his passing and reading of defenses and with the right tools he is an all NBA player. He’s the best one on the team in that regard. I can’t understand a fan of the team calling any player a bum when that player just wants to win and shows up to work even injured when the season is on the line. We need everyone to buy in and sacrifice and that is the sole reason for my frustrations. I don’t hate any player though. Just want to see them win it all. We have the players and it will happen if they all buy in.

Positive side is Edwards is emerging as a really solid role player and defended Curry in great fashion last night. Against the Warriors you need the big three to start with Edwards/Claxton. If we had Harden, that’s another 20 points and Warriors would lose 126-111. That’s how good we can be. We still had a solid chance to win and Kyrie reminded everyone how good he is and getting better. But his availability is horrid and unreliable. Our defense was solid. We actually guarded the switch very well unlike the last time they played. Edwards became Curry’s stepdad and shut him down for three quarters. Curry does not like long defenders(Edwards-Claxton) or skilled ball handlers(Kyrie). They adopt him as a step son and expose his weakness. Last ear with the big three, we demolished them. If we can get out three healthy, we will be fine, I won’t give up but it’s frustrating. We need
More 3 and D players who are young and healthy. Come in Marks, get ‘er done.

[TheNetsFan]

After rewatching the two questionable calls, the Curry/Kess play should have been challenged. It was blatant. Challenging that play takes 2 points off the board, puts Edwards at the line and I believe fouls Curry out.

Irving/Klay was the right call, but I feel the spirit of the before the inbounds pass rule is applied incorrectly. That rule was created to prevent the blatant Hack-a-Shaq type fouls before the ball was even close to being inbound. It shouldn't be applied when you have to review frame by frame. If it's close, it should just be a normal foul.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Honestly I don't really care about the challenge. Clearly the refs told Nash not to. Whatever.

But this clearly isn't a talent issue. We have good-decent players on this team.

The problem is always we look lost and have no cohesion as a team. There is no strategy. No real plays beyond isos.

Nash is just a bad coach. If we had someone like Ty Lue we would be winning a lot of these games.

[MrDollarBills]

Honestly I don't really care about the challenge. Clearly the refs told Nash not to. Whatever.

But this clearly isn't a talent issue. We have good-decent players on this team.

The problem is always we look lost and have no cohesion as a team. There is no strategy. No real plays beyond isos.

Nash is just a bad coach. If we had someone like Ty Lue we would be winning a lot of these games.

There is zero movement off ball. Just 4 dudes standing around watching someone dribble into a contested shot

[NetsWorld]

Honestly I don't really care about the challenge. Clearly the refs told Nash not to. Whatever.

But this clearly isn't a talent issue. We have good-decent players on this team.

The problem is always we look lost and have no cohesion as a team. There is no strategy. No real plays beyond isos.

Nash is just a bad coach. If we had someone like Ty Lue we would be winning a lot of these games.

We thrive more when we push the ball, not quiet transition but close enough to it. We need the defense to continue upwards to create those opportunities. In the PO, the ball will go to the primary scorers, so ball movement won’t matter then. The strategy was to ultimately get Harden to drive and create opportunities for cutters/shooters:Kyrie and KD. Harden is a vacuum sucking in the defense.

[MrDollarBills]

By this time next week, we'll be in 7th. Suns, Jazz, Kings, Nuggets. These are all games where we can lose. Especially if Harden can't play on the trip.

[NetsWorld]

By this time next week, we'll be in 7th. Suns, Jazz, Kings, Nuggets. These are all games where we can lose. Especially if Harden can't play on the trip.

We won’t lose them all; Harden will play and him/Irving will be the difference maker.

[Jay555]

After rewatching the two questionable calls, the Curry/Kess play should have been challenged. It was blatant. Challenging that play takes 2 points off the board, and I believe fouls Curry out.

Irving/Klay was the right call, but I feel the spirit of the before the inbounds pass rule is applied incorrectly. That rule was created to prevent the blatant Hack-a-Shaq type fouls before the ball was even close to being inbound. It shouldn't be applied when you have to review frame by frame. If it's close, it should just be a normal foul.

Refs were on a mission last night lol. We were not going to win either way. That Curry/Kess play would have been an offensive foul if it was Harden. I thought they specifically targeted these type of plays. Guess it only applies to Harden then.

[Jay555]

By this time next week, we'll be in 7th. Suns, Jazz, Kings, Nuggets. These are all games where we can lose. Especially if Harden can't play on the trip.

Before this 10 game stretch, I expected us to go 4-6. I think we could go 3-7 or 2-8.

vs LAL L
vs DEN L
@ GSW L
@ PHX L
@ SAC W
@ UTA W
@ DEN W
vs BOS L
@ WSH W
@ MIA L

[TheNetsFan]

Last 2 minute report confirms, Nash is an in game moron. This would have wiped out Curry's 2 FTs, put Edwards on the line and fouled Curry out.

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[Jay555]

Last 2 minute report confirms, Nash is an in game moron. This would have wiped out Curry's 2 FTs, put Edwards on the line and fouled Curry out.

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I think refs still would not change the call but Nash should have challenged it regardless.

[Prokorov]

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Carry on with the agenda though...

There is a problem though. it wasn't a foul. and even if it was a foul, you still have to challenge. The game is over if the call isnt reversed. not challenging just ends the game. And there is no downside to challenging.

Nets lose their final timeout if they lose the challenge, so yes there's a downside...

And?

There are 9 seconds left. plenty of time to get the ball up court and get a shot off. If the warriors are up 4 instead of 3 we are still asking this team to get a steal off their mid court inbound and make a heave.

our only chances were:
-challenge, hope its overturned, if not hope an elite FT shooters misses a FT
-dont challenge, hope an elite FT shooter misses a FT.

challenging is the obvious choice. even if you want to absolve nash for that, the idiotic decision no to challenge curry flopping into kessler which every fan. announcer, and observer new was bogus instantly and the league admitted was obviously wrong in the 2-minute report is unforgiveable.

What was he saving the challenge for? the ride home?

[Prokorov]

By this time next week, we'll be in 7th. Suns, Jazz, Kings, Nuggets. These are all games where we can lose. Especially if Harden can't play on the trip.

For this to be true, we would need to lose our next 3 and they would need to win their next 3:

Nets:
Suns
Kings (Actively Tanking, looking to sell players)
Jazz (Lost 5 in a row with Gobert out, Now Ingles also Hurt)

Hornets:
Cetlics
Cavs
Het

The hornets are 5-5 in their last 10 games, just lost to detroit and have a losing record on the road, where they will play Boston and Cleveland.

Not going to happen. If it does, we would be 7th, 0.5 games out of the 5 seed and still within 2.5 games of miami and cleveland. The idea we are somehow close to being buried in the playin is beyond pessimism and being blinded by frustration (which, isnt an unfair place to be)

[Prokorov]

Last 2 minute report confirms, Nash is an in game moron. This would have wiped out Curry's 2 FTs, put Edwards on the line and fouled Curry out.

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Just the possibility of fouling curry out was worth the challenge.

Edwards wouldnt go on the line though. Offensive fouls committed by the person with the ball dont count as team fouls, so it would just be nets possesion. either way:

-2 points taken off the board
-Curry fouls out
-Nets Ball

[Prokorov]

I think refs still would not change the call but Nash should have challenged it regardless.

You cant worry about the Refs when you challenge, you need to weight the risk/reward. Losing a timeout vs whats gained in a situation where the call was probably or obviously wrong. These situations are no brainers:

-Take 3 points off the board, take 1 foul off your player
-Take 2 points off the board, take 1 foul off your player
-Take a 5th/6th foul off your star
-Put a 5th/6th foul on their star
-Overturn a goaltend, add 2 points
-Overturn a goaltend call on a clean black, take 2 points off for your opponent
-Key change of possesion play in the last minute of a 1 or 2 posesion game

Nash had several of those scenarios at play and didnt challeng the obvious curry leap into edwards.

[TheNetsFan]

Last 2 minute report confirms, Nash is an in game moron. This would have wiped out Curry's 2 FTs, put Edwards on the line and fouled Curry out.

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Just the possibility of fouling curry out was worth the challenge.

Edwards wouldnt go on the line though. Offensive fouls committed by the person with the ball dont count as team fouls, so it would just be nets possesion. either way:

-2 points taken off the board
-Curry fouls out
-Nets Ball

I was wrong. Curry had 4 fouls at the time. He fouled Irving on the subsequent possession to pick up his 5th.

Still, in a close game with less than 2 minutes left, you have to take points off the board and take possession.

[Prokorov]

Last 2 minute report confirms, Nash is an in game moron. This would have wiped out Curry's 2 FTs, put Edwards on the line and fouled Curry out.

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Just the possibility of fouling curry out was worth the challenge.

Edwards wouldnt go on the line though. Offensive fouls committed by the person with the ball dont count as team fouls, so it would just be nets possesion. either way:

-2 points taken off the board
-Curry fouls out
-Nets Ball

I was wrong. Curry had 4 fouls at the time. He fouled Irving on the subsequent possession to pick up his 5th.

Still, in a close game with less than 2 minutes left, you have to take points off the board and take possession.

Putting a 5th foul on curry is still important. it means you cant switch him on Kyrie without inviting a layup and you remove his aggressiveness with the league #1 charge taker in Griffin on the floor.

id say it was a no brainer, but nash has no brain and didnt challenge.... so its even worse then a no brainer

[NetsWorld]

Just the possibility of fouling curry out was worth the challenge.

Edwards wouldnt go on the line though. Offensive fouls committed by the person with the ball dont count as team fouls, so it would just be nets possesion. either way:

-2 points taken off the board
-Curry fouls out
-Nets Ball

I was wrong. Curry had 4 fouls at the time. He fouled Irving on the subsequent possession to pick up his 5th.

Still, in a close game with less than 2 minutes left, you have to take points off the board and take possession.

Putting a 5th foul on curry is still important. it means you cant switch him on Kyrie without inviting a layup and you remove his aggressiveness with the league #1 charge taker in Griffin on the floor.

id say it was a no brainer, but nash has no brain and didnt challenge.... so its even worse then a no brainer

Forget the challenge for a minute, if that is James Harden doing the same thing, it's either a no call and he turns it over or an offensive foul on him. And this season is full proof of that; the league was not allowing their darling Savannah Curry and Warriors lose. The challenge is a different story, which I detested and criticized Nash, but anyone who seriously thinks the refs just didn't catch that Curry play is just asinine. Again I will say it, it was the Nets vs Warriors, Refs and Nash.

[Prokorov]

I was wrong. Curry had 4 fouls at the time. He fouled Irving on the subsequent possession to pick up his 5th.

Still, in a close game with less than 2 minutes left, you have to take points off the board and take possession.

Putting a 5th foul on curry is still important. it means you cant switch him on Kyrie without inviting a layup and you remove his aggressiveness with the league #1 charge taker in Griffin on the floor.

id say it was a no brainer, but nash has no brain and didnt challenge.... so its even worse then a no brainer

Forget the challenge for a minute, if that is James Harden doing the same thing, it's either a no call and he turns it over or an offensive foul on him. And this season is full proof of that; the league was not allowing their darling Savannah Curry and Warriors lose. The challenge is a different story, which I detested and criticized Nash, but anyone who seriously thinks the refs just didn't catch that Curry play is just asinine. Again I will say it, it was the Nets vs Warriors, Refs and Nash.

League has targeted Harden for sure. its gross. call the ones where he is clearly hooking or jumping into a player. guys are tackling him with no call.